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Anti-Imports? - Trackabout?
« on: February 09, 2012, 04:26:00 PM »
I have been watching the Trackabout thread for sometime and it is starting to get a little off track i.e. It is very sad to see Trackabout go (Hopefully it won't and someone will pick the name up and it would be even better if they were Australian)  But what seems to be happening in that thread is that there are some negative comments around imports particularly Chinese imports because "it was partly due to Chinese imports that Trackabout has gotten into trouble".  Now don't get me wrong I buy Aussie made every chance I get and I really hate Chinese gear, however I also have debt that most would dig a hole crawl inside and pay a Chinaman to fill it in....  So because of that I have to be a little careful where I spend the $'s and sometimes regretfully a Chinaman profits....

Now the frightening thing is that because of these comments that are being posted I have been reading on one forum in particular that a person which has a Chinese tent on a Aussie trailer is a tad worried about being ridiculed when camping... Could you just imagine that ????  You go camping and a Trackabout owner sets up next to you..  ????  Tough....  :(  hmmmmm   
I recently met some really lovely people who I think will become great friends that happen to have a Chinese camper,  You know what?  they saw ours and our friends Trackabout and they were tossing up as to which to upgrade to both of course 100% Aussie CT's   

Step back have a think about all the imported products you have in your home and then make a Judgement.... Not everyone has $15k+ to spend on an Aussie camper and in many posts on this forum I have read are of people supporting those that buy cheaper Chinese CT by saying things like "Doesn't matter what you get as long as get gets you out there"    Now does that still stand true with the demise of Trackabout????  Finally how many of those Chinese CT owners would have actually bought a Trackabout anyway? or for that matter any other Aussie built CT, maybe they wouldn't today but when they see the advantages of a superior Aussie built camper their next upgrade could have been a Trackabout just as I mentioned earlier.... 

BTW I hope all you people that have not yet purchased your Camper trailer or all those that have a Chinese Camper wake up to yourselves save a little more,  Buy Aussie CT's and believe us you will not regret it...  :)   

Anyway my 2 bobs worth... I have said enough the kids are starving and the mrs will be home soon from work, I gotta get that diner on or I am in for it  :) ...   Now any cred I had just went bye bye :)
 
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Re: Anti-Imports? - Trackabout?
« Reply #1 on: February 09, 2012, 04:33:05 PM »
I think the closing of Trackabout has been a big shock to everyone and yes it is quite upsetting - even to me that doesn't have one.  I think we all know deep down that these things happen, but when it happens 'close to home' so to speak the frustrations run a little bit higher.

I totally agree with your post, but I am sure, and would hope, that at a Meet that everyone would just be enjoying eachother's comapny, no matter what they towed getting there.  Cripes how many of us drive a locally made Ford or Holden to the Meets??

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Re: Anti-Imports? - Trackabout?
« Reply #2 on: February 09, 2012, 04:38:13 PM »
Little bit over these posts by now, but only replying because of your comments:

So because of that I have to be a little careful where I spend the $'s and sometimes regretfully a Chinaman profits....

all those that have a Chinese Camper wake up to yourselves save a little more,  Buy Aussie CT's and believe us you will not regret it...  :)   


So it's ok for you to send money o/s but not for others to be careful with their money?

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Re: Anti-Imports? - Trackabout?
« Reply #3 on: February 09, 2012, 05:02:19 PM »
What I think he implies is that what we buy sometimes is made in china. This could be clothing, electrical gear etc where there is no Aussie product the same.

I agree about over these posts , time to move forward.
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« Reply #4 on: February 09, 2012, 05:06:29 PM »
This is getting tiresome.

What I cant understand is, how does one of Australia's most popular camper trailer manufacturing business with service that others are compared too, close its doors due to the GFC & Chinese imports? You would think all the lesser known Aust Camper manufacturers would go under way before Trackabout...... ??? ??? ??? I still cant believe it  :'(

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« Reply #5 on: February 09, 2012, 05:20:47 PM »
Pass the popcorn....this thread's gonna become a doozy!!
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« Reply #6 on: February 09, 2012, 05:26:22 PM »
And on & on & on it goes...hypocritcial snobish posts'

Our 1st CT was an import - so I found out later. Didn't know from nothing when we bought it, hadn't researched CT's.
You know what? Even if I/we had've researched them, the likes of Trackabout just would've left me dreaming as I bought an import, just the same as I dream of buying a lamborghini, but own an X-Trail. But reality & finances dictate a much more realistic purchase!
I had fun in our import, & it got me back into camping with the bonus of the minister finally enjoying camping. Even though we now own a different CT that best suits our needs, I miss our import, & will always miss it because of the good memories I have.
Our current CT is Aussie made, but when (if) it's time for her to go, we will buy something that's more fitting our reality & finances...even if that means it'll be an import!
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Re: Anti-Imports? - Trackabout?
« Reply #7 on: February 09, 2012, 05:45:49 PM »
I wonder if anyone has compared posts from this thread to the ARB thread where we are talking about buying an Aussie made product from an O/S supplier to save a dollar and we are all for it, in this thread its totally opposite.......................

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« Reply #8 on: February 09, 2012, 05:46:32 PM »
 


Yep........... Obviously we need to support Aussie business............ and maybe that Chinese made camper is the perfect catalyst to allow you to hit the road, travel this wonderful country and support 1000's of Aussie Local Businesses......everyone from Joe Bloggs Van Park, to ol'mate selling tomatoes on the road side................ just a thought.
Just imagine how many less people would be out spending money travelling Aus, if they were still saving to buy the Aussie Made CT??

As for me there is no way i'll be buying an Import CT......... i'd rather have none than an import unit....but thats my choice...... but lets not knock a bloke for buying what he can afford....... i know oneday i'll get a new Aus made CT...... for others the $5000 they spend on an import is probably the absolute upper limit of the budget........

Anyway lets all just look after one another as best we can..............
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« Reply #9 on: February 09, 2012, 05:52:11 PM »
Just thinking outside the square.....Aren't the Chinese campers made from Australian Iron Ore we export???

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« Reply #10 on: February 09, 2012, 05:56:34 PM »
Yep........... Obviously we need to support Aussie business............ and maybe that Chinese made camper is the perfect catalyst to allow you to hit the road, travel this wonderful country and support 1000's of Aussie Local Businesses......everyone from Joe Bloggs Van Park, to ol'mate selling tomatoes on the road side................ just a thought.
Just imagine how many less people would be out spending money travelling Aus, if they were still saving to buy the Aussie Made CT??

As for me there is no way i'll be buying an Import CT......... i'd rather have none than an import unit....but thats my choice...... but lets not knock a bloke for buying what he can afford....... i know oneday i'll get a new Aus made CT...... for others the $5000 they spend on an import is probably the absolute upper limit of the budget........

Anyway lets all just look after one another as best we can.............. :cheers:

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« Reply #11 on: February 09, 2012, 06:04:17 PM »
My wifes an import.Doesnt leak,good springs,hitches up well  and goes the distance.........
I dont mind going to work, its the 8 hours  i have to wait to go home again that annoys me.

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« Reply #12 on: February 09, 2012, 06:11:59 PM »
Or maybe there is a massive over supply of CT manufacturers in Australia all competing for the same price bracket in the market.

To me anything over $5000 for basically a trailer, a tent and a decent mattress is not likely to end up in my drive way.

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« Reply #13 on: February 09, 2012, 06:15:22 PM »
  Buy Aussie

Hey Kiwipete........ tell me?......... Where do the Kiwi Fruit you eat come from?????......... I'm hoping they are Aussie grown Kiwi Fruit ???.............     ;D :laugh: ;D :laugh:
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« Reply #14 on: February 09, 2012, 06:18:41 PM »
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I dont mind going to work, its the 8 hours  i have to wait to go home again that annoys me.

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« Reply #15 on: February 09, 2012, 06:22:33 PM »
My wifes an import.Doesnt leak,good springs,hitches up well  and goes the distance.........

My wifes only part import....... part Aboriginal, part Chinese and part Pom......... she's living proof that there was a bit of partying going on back in the old gold rush days here in Aus!! :cheers:
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« Reply #16 on: February 09, 2012, 06:25:23 PM »
Lets get one thing clear......
It's not just buying to a budget that makes people like "Me" and many many more on this forum buy chinese imports, my trailer is local, but the top is 100% imported,  Why did i buy chinese,,,??
Simple,,  3 grand sitting unused in my driveway does not worry me.!
17 grand Does.!
sure, i can go out and spend 17 or what ever they run at... i have the money, i pay cash for everything just about. no, i'm not braging,
but spending 3 grand to do the same job makes more sence to me, and it WILL do the same job, it will and does keep me dry and warm, and also keeps the sun of my bald head
Will it last as long as local made.? dont know,,, do you.?..
But if it Shites itself tomorrow, (4 years old now) i dont care, i'll go buy another one.
As far as John goes (Trackabout) i feel for him, but its not just the imported CT's that took him down...............

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« Reply #17 on: February 09, 2012, 06:28:34 PM »
My wifes an import.Doesnt leak,good springs,hitches up well  and goes the distance.........

LFMAO... she's obviously not on Myswag... or you're a dead man walking.

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Re: Anti-Imports? - Trackabout?
« Reply #18 on: February 09, 2012, 06:45:06 PM »



Yep........... Obviously we need to support Aussie business............ and maybe that Chinese made camper is the perfect catalyst to allow you to hit the road, travel this wonderful country and support 1000's of Aussie Local Businesses......everyone from Joe Bloggs Van Park, to ol'mate selling tomatoes on the road side................ just a thought.
Just imagine how many less people would be out spending money travelling Aus, if they were still saving to buy the Aussie Made CT??

As for me there is no way I'll be buying an Import CT......... I'd rather have none than an import unit....but that's my choice...... but lets not knock a bloke for buying what he can afford....... i know oneday I'll get a new Aus made CT...... for others the $5000 they spend on an import is probably the absolute upper limit of the budget........

Anyway lets all just look after one another as best we can..............

Mate I agree 100% with the first part of your post, however the second bit implies that imports are cheep. Some times they are, but people buy them because they see better value in them, not just because they are cheep. There are plenty of imported campers and pop tops creeping into the market that are $40k plus, look at the ones now coming in from South Africa. These may be well beyond your budget also. They are still imports and Aussie dollars go oversea's.

It is a global market and at the end of the day with the high Aussie dollar some businesses suffer and consumers have more choice. Each to their own. I certainly wont be looking down my nose at someone who is out enjoying the great Aussie lifestyle if they have a Chinese import camper.


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« Reply #19 on: February 09, 2012, 06:56:47 PM »
Hi Pete

Understand what you are saying though I really doubt anyone gives a rats what you are using to camp with.

What I dont get is why we are happy to pay good $$ for inferior products.  (me included so not pointing the finger)

We live in one of the wealthiest countries in the world but seem so obsessed with consuming.  Hang on, better get me soap box........  we seem to have been conditioned to buy crap.  Something our fathers would probably shake their heads at.  Like the $2 shops and the shiploads and crap at b*nnings.

Buy it, use it, throw it away.  Even the argument that some use saying if they didnt buy that cheap chinese camper they couldnt afford a ct is rubbish.   There are fantastic second hand units that are the same price only built to last.  Maybe everyone wants new for some reason.  I dont get it. 

I think we will all lose in the end when crap is all we can get here.
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« Reply #20 on: February 09, 2012, 07:10:20 PM »
Strewth this thread is steamrolling..................
Of course I have to go to bunnings to get some imported merbau to built my soapbox, so I'll just jump right on the "chinese"bandwagon instead........... ;D >:D >:D >:D

My wife is built locally and works just fine!!!
I'm the import and from most of my posts you'll see I'm screwed.................. :'( :-[ :'( :-[

Perhaps this post rings true then?????

Nah just kidding, but it is interesting to see peoples views on the subject.
Also going back to the original post above, I think most people would agree that budget plays a crucial role in the decision, but perhaps as a lot of posters are implying, we should "try"to buy locally when we can and with the assumption that is is going to be cost effective.
I guess just keep it the back of your mind to buy local if you can.
With the global availability of importing these days you could argue any point.
Jayco are made in Mexico Victoria (the great land of speewa's and dropbears) but where do they get there parts?
Other view, ok parts may be imported but jobs are local and profit is local.
Economics is a very passionate subject to some............and points of view are very different.

I just reckon we should keep it in our minds and do what we can when we can. Eg. If a comparable product at a comparable price is available, try to take the Aussie one.

Crap............Now I'm rambling, this wagons got too much momentum. ???

Down to the nitty gritty......

Is 6 B&S made locally? and is it cheaper to get the chinese brand?

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SORRY...........
Gotta go get the glamper ready, heading to Barrington tommorrow.

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« Reply #21 on: February 09, 2012, 07:19:40 PM »
I wonder if anyone has compared posts from this thread to the ARB thread where we are talking about buying an Aussie made product from an O/S supplier to save a dollar and we are all for it, in this thread its totally opposite.......................
Forgive me if i'm wrong, but isn't the ARB post about buying a product OS that has been exported from australia in the first place and they are cheaper to import back?

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« Reply #22 on: February 09, 2012, 07:35:12 PM »
Forgive me if i'm wrong, but isn't the ARB post about buying a product OS that has been exported from australia in the first place and they are cheaper to import back?

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« Reply #23 on: February 09, 2012, 08:11:07 PM »
I bought my chinese camper trailer because my business was / is in the midst of the GFC.
At the time I didn't know f all about camper trailers or this forum. All I knew was when I bought was that I was sick of setting up a sh$tty old tent off the back of a sh$tty old box trailer. We decided to camp more because we wanted our kids to see more of Oz and be outside. So I bought a Chinese camper.

If you think I am going to roll over and feel inferior for that you are totally wrong. And because of my Chinese camper one day I will probably (will) buy a high quality probably Australian made hardfloor for Renee and I to travel around OZ in.

In any event. I go camping heaps more and our kids have played in some of the loveliest country and beaches this country has to offer. Our next trip is to go and stay at Bargara and see the turtles hatch and after that we are dragging our Chinese camper out to Blackall to spend time at the out laws and do our first semi desert trip. Neither of which we probably wouldn't have done if we didn't have our Chinese camper.

I have bought more stuff than I would have by buying my Chinese camper. I have bought a ****eload of stuff to mod the trailer from local suppliers and internet suppliers and suppliers from here, and I spend dollars in the local communities that we visit and travel through.

So I am sick of hearing about the invasion of the Chinese CT. FFS I don't own an Australian built 4WD and Renee's Holden was built in Europe. But no one makes a comment about them.

As mentioned a global market. If a Chinese person walks into your business and asks to buy / build / invest in something that you supply do you say no?

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« Reply #24 on: February 09, 2012, 08:11:43 PM »
When I started this little Mandrake's concern 80 watt Solar panels were $1100 to $1200 each with the initials BP on them - Hmmm wait a minute BP isn't that British Petroleum ?? ( Now Beyond Petroleum ) obviously an Aussie company -  ;D ;D - So why did everyone support BP same scenario money went O/S and we kept on buying BP panels - Kyocera - now that's Aussie for sure !! - Suntech - yep OK ..

Now 80 watt panels are $240 - $320 each and the profit stays here in my pocket -- Thanks !!

I also have a Chinese produced CT - Cost me $9500 .. Could have bought it myself from the Chinese manufacturer for $5000 USD .. But didn't so $4000 has stayed in Australia supporting a local business that puts Chinese campers together ... Hooray for Capitalism ...

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