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Re: Trackabout In Administration (not receivership)- Rumour????
« Reply #100 on: February 06, 2012, 06:33:17 PM »
Very sad to hear the news - couldn't believe this would happen to such a great business putting out a real quality product and run by a genuinely top bunch of people. Hopefully the business will be picked up and carried on by another aussie worthy of JT and the team's big shoes.

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Re: Trackabout In Administration (not receivership)- Rumour????
« Reply #101 on: February 06, 2012, 07:55:10 PM »
Reality hit real hard when I saw an ad in the Courier Mail on Saturday for the sale of the Trackabout business. Had to sit down for a few moments to reflect on this and hope it all goes well for JT, Raewyn and crew.

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I was the same. I still can't believe it. I feel like I am mourning for something I never really had anything to do with, other than get a quick quote from John late last year.

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« Reply #102 on: February 07, 2012, 10:41:35 AM »
I own a TRACKABOUT camper and every time I set it up I am very proud to have one of the best soft floor campers made. John and Raewyn thank you for build such a great product. All the best for what ever you both have in mind.
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« Reply #103 on: February 07, 2012, 02:54:28 PM »
All,

Love the fact that there are so many Trackabout supporters out there. Me, we bought a unit that John called his own and featured heavily in the CT mags of Sept 2010. It is a cracker and we love it. Desperately sorry to here of the demise of the business and particularly that John's health has suffered.

I called the administrators office as I was keen to know what arrangements were being made to support the existing owners in terms of repairs to components, canvas etc. Is there a recommendation of who to use.

No call back 48 hours later. Doors are locked. So before to much time goes by are there any recommendations from anyone that we might seek out in time to come.

My parting comment is that if you are looking for a CT or anything for that matter consider buying from home, whether it be in the supermarket or a luxury item support specialists in the industry of choice, before we have no specialists left. We are selling out this country at a rate of knots.

Regards to all with special mention to JT and Family

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« Reply #104 on: February 07, 2012, 06:34:04 PM »
Rob,

Give Warren and Cherie a call at Ozki Canvas. They are located near the top of Moss Street, Slacks Creek.
Warren is clued up on the Trackabout canvas, as he was a tent sewer for them about 5 years ago, before starting his own business.

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Re: Trackabout In Administration (not receivership)- Rumour????
« Reply #105 on: February 07, 2012, 09:46:31 PM »
I know JT has asked for time and space, but has anyone spoken to him, or his missus to see how he is going?

Hate for him to be going thru it all on his own, the pressure and stress would be too much for one bloke.
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« Reply #106 on: February 07, 2012, 11:14:36 PM »
Can't believe it, what a tragedy.  All those great people at Trackabout were awesome, JT, Francis, Lakas etc.  We bought our safari extenda last year and it is the best.  Johnny was talking about the future model planned for the end of this year and we were gonna upgrade, it sounded spectacular.  What a bloody shame, a legend company, and a legend product.  We'll have ours for years to come.


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« Reply #107 on: February 08, 2012, 08:48:12 AM »
I know JT has asked for time and space, but has anyone spoken to him, or his missus to see how he is going?
Had a quick chat to the big fella last night actually. They're going as well as can be expected. It's a rough time for both John and Rae, dealing with the administrators and having to decide what the next moves are. From what little I understand, the process is all progressing through the motions, it's just consuming a lot of John's time.

JT has been keeping an eye on this thread despite not posting, and the groundswell of support has meant a lot to him. It's great to see so many people - previous customers, potential future customers and competitors alike - all lending their support.

Please don't underestimate what this means to John and Rae. They're a great team, they've got each other, as well as the best mate a bloke can have - a Border Collie (but I might be biased there  ;D).

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« Reply #108 on: February 08, 2012, 10:40:27 AM »
Thanks for the update Matto  :cheers:

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« Reply #109 on: February 08, 2012, 10:44:56 AM »
I felt compelled to add my best wishes to JT and his family.
You have been a great support to countless people on this forum, even just by posting tips and pics, your contribution is outstanding.
If there is EVER anything this group can do for you, I know I for one would jump at the chance.


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« Reply #110 on: February 08, 2012, 12:12:03 PM »
Had a quick chat to the big fella last night actually. They're going as well as can be expected. It's a rough time for both John and Rae, dealing with the administrators and having to decide what the next moves are. From what little I understand, the process is all progressing through the motions, it's just consuming a lot of John's time.

JT has been keeping an eye on this thread despite not posting, and the groundswell of support has meant a lot to him. It's great to see so many people - previous customers, potential future customers and competitors alike - all lending their support.
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Re: Trackabout In Administration (not receivership)- Rumour????
« Reply #112 on: February 08, 2012, 05:36:23 PM »
Hi Everyone

Whilst I sympathise with Trackabouts owners (JT & Rae), and hope they come through the process with their health and sanity, I wish to raise a point - and please understand that this is not a criticism personally on the owners.

When we hear that "My business failed due to the GFC and Cheap Imports" we need to consider more factors.  The GFC is not new, occurring for the most part from 2008 onwards, banks tightened up, consumer sentiment fell, and as pointed out by the owner, people weren't considering luxury items - at least in the same volume as before.

This strikes me as an inability (whether forced or otherwise) to change gear, change tact or otherwise mould new business plans.  Perhaps some trailers could have been heavily de-specced, ranging could have involved tent/canvas products separate from the trailers, camper gear or niche camping items that Aussies buy (heated showers, fully wired electrical boards for plug and play into existing trailers).  Perhaps service around 'fixing' and up-speccing the cheap Chinese imports - i.e. Bought an eBay Camper?  Need some help/extras/repairs? - whilst these strategies probably ran at a tangent from the Owners original business plans - all things need to be considered in a tough retail environment.

Any number of these these things could have been considered - with the main aim of the game being to get back to the Luxury supply of Campers at a future date - which will happen eventually.  Its the same argument that Gerry Harvey extols about people buying overseas because they don't have to pay the GST - which is rubbish - because like many here - if my local retailer/trader can get to within 25-30% of an internet price, I'm more than happy to keep the cash local - simple fact is for many technical items they either can't or won't - and thus the money is spent elsewhere.

This is where service based mentalities are lacking in Australia - and whilst the Owner from all reports had excellent customer service skills, sadly many do not.  Walk into your local motorcycle establishment, and get treated like a nupty by a 16yo with no product knowledge and a suite of products retailing at 200% margin...what do they expect.

My point is, for Australian suppliers/retailers/traders to remain competitive in the global market, without the assistance of subsidies or tariffs, they must evolve with the customer, who is infinitely more savvy - than even 10 years ago, and sadly - approaching the market with a 10 year old business plan, is likely to have only one, sad result.

My best wishes to the Owners, it is sad to see good Aussie businesses hit the wall.  We as Consumers have the power to ask for, or even demand service and niche technical services, solutions and products - if the retailer doesn't know - then it is our duty as Consumers to ensure they are informed.
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Re: Trackabout In Administration (not receivership)- Rumour????
« Reply #113 on: February 09, 2012, 03:04:04 PM »
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Walk into your local motorcycle establishment, and get treated like a nupty by a 16yo with no product knowledge and a suite of products retailing at 200% margin...what do they expect.
I can tell you it isnt the dealers making the money in motorcycle shops.
My old boss closed his doors to the sales and spares in December after 35years in the 1 building... very well known store in the area.

Steve now has a factory down the road and only does servicing of bikes which is the one thing you cannot get off the interwebs.. 

But then theres tyres, which brings its own issues. people bring in tyres expecting free fitting cause they bought them in the USA... some get really offended when he says to **** off elsewhere with free fitting on tyres bought overseas...
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« Reply #114 on: February 09, 2012, 06:22:52 PM »
Hi l0ckym,

Welcome to the forum :)

Let's not turn this into a "he should have done this" thread, but John had been trying and testing other avenues over the past few years.

When we were buying ours he had a Trackabout built gal trailer with an OzTrail top in the showroom. He was asking $6500 for it. It was a pretty good setup, but he couldn't sell it! Everyone who comes to Trackabout isn't looking to buy a cheap/import camper - they expect to see a well built, Aussie trailer that they can customise to their needs.

As for fixing up cheap eBay campers - is that really a sustainable business model?

I agree that businesses need to diversify in the current market, but at what cost? As soon as you are seen to be selling imported gear, the brand you've been building for 10 years goes out the window. Ultimately it's come at a high cost to JT, but he can hold his head high and be proud to have built the company that he did.

Let's not forget that there could have also been external pressures that affected the health of the business back in 2008-9, and our commentary on his ability to run a business is probably insulting :)

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Re: Trackabout In Administration (not receivership)- Rumour????
« Reply #115 on: February 09, 2012, 06:32:00 PM »
Hi l0ckym,

Welcome to the forum :)

Let's not turn this into a "he should have done this" thread, but John had been trying and testing other avenues over the past few years.

When we were buying ours he had a Trackabout built gal trailer with an OzTrail top in the showroom. He was asking $6500 for it. It was a pretty good setup, but he couldn't sell it! Everyone who comes to Trackabout isn't looking to buy a cheap/import camper - they expect to see a well built, Aussie trailer that they can customise to their needs.

As for fixing up cheap eBay campers - is there really that really a sustainable business model?

I agree that businesses need to diversify in the current market, but at what cost? As soon as you are seen to be selling imported gear, the brand you've been building for 10 years goes out the window. Ultimately it's come at a high cost to JT, but he can hold his head high and be proud to have built the company that he did.

Let's not forget that there could have also been external pressures that affected the health of the business back in 2008-9, and our commentary on his ability to run a business is probably insulting :)

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« Reply #116 on: February 09, 2012, 07:05:58 PM »
X3.

This is not the time to speculate or to suggest that you may have been better qualified than those involved to survive this outcome. Reading between the lines it might be seen as "blowing of one's own trumpet" but let's not go there.

I never had the chance to deal with JT but from all reports there seems that there was nobody out there more commited to satisfying his customers needs than he and his staff. I read with interest how he rebuilt the trailer that was smashed up in the floods last year. I thought then that if I get a camper and the budget allows I'll be getting one of them. Some synics may suggest that it was a marketing ploy but I felt it was much more than that.

Knowing now that John and Rae are keeping an eye on this thread I would like to extend my thoughts and best wishes to them both. If the responses on this forum mean anything then you both know that you never let anybody down and that for every customer you had you also gained a friend. Take comfort in that.

Good luck in the future.
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« Reply #117 on: February 09, 2012, 07:39:10 PM »
X4

We were fortunate to have been able to sell our business 12 years ago, albeit at a loss.

It cost us our home and almost our marriage. Luckily we didn't become bankrupts, but it did takes us well over 5 years to feel as if we had turned the corner. We are more cautious with our money than before and try and make decisions with our head rather than with our heart

We believe as one door closes another door open. You make the best out of whatever life delivers.

Hopefully JT and Rae will come through the process with dignity knowing that they tried their best and have many, many happy customers. No doubt they will wonder "what if", but as each day, week, month passes they will focus on the future and not dwell on the past.

My fear is that someone will buy the "Trackabout" name and unsuspecting new customers don't get the quality product that JT manufactured.

Whilst I've never met JT or Rae the high regard that they are held in by this forum speaks volumes.

If our paths cross, I would be honoured to be able to shout you a beer, as long as it isn't that XXXX stuff.



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« Reply #118 on: February 09, 2012, 09:07:00 PM »

My fear is that someone will buy the "Trackabout" name and unsuspecting new customers don't get the quality product that JT manufactured.


yeah and if that happens, watch the value of the old ones go through the roof,  a la trakshak and camp-o-matic. 

btw a lot of the staff at trackabout were ex camp-o-matic workers, hope they find new jobs real quick. 

Would love to know where they go in case mine needs fixin' at any stage. Maybe we could be updated about that on here.

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« Reply #119 on: February 09, 2012, 10:32:15 PM »
X3.

This is not the time to speculate or to suggest that you may have been better qualified than those involved to survive this outcome. Reading between the lines it might be seen as "blowing of one's own trumpet" but let's not go there.

What a ridiculous post ::)

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« Reply #120 on: February 10, 2012, 11:03:55 AM »
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Re: Trackabout In Administration (not receivership)- Rumour????
« Reply #121 on: February 10, 2012, 11:23:30 AM »
JT,

Been there. Don't look in the mirror at dust behind you, look ahead at the road in front.
Bought your trailer in 2009. Seen some rough tracks. Dam thing keeps coming back for more!

All the best.

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« Reply #122 on: February 10, 2012, 11:39:04 AM »
time to lock this thread?

Its turning to Shit.

the original question has been answered.
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« Reply #123 on: February 10, 2012, 12:32:10 PM »
As a proud owner of a recently purchased Safari Extenda,  I was saddened to hear of your doors closing JT. Rest assured that if you are ever on the Sunshine Coast there will always be a cold beer available. Your service and product was such a high standard it was a pleasure to do business with you.

My wife, family and myself wish your family the best in your next adventure.  To all your employees my thoughts are with you.  Thanks again for a great product and rest assured it will be enjoyed for many years to come.

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« Reply #124 on: February 10, 2012, 01:55:48 PM »
time to lock this thread?

Its turning to ****.

the original question has been answered.

Definitely not, want to hear what's happening with trackabout, as I own one which is still under warranty.  And this thread is perfect for that.  Don't close it, just keep on topic. 

It's not the place for people to get on their soapboxes like that one post above that everyone's reacting to.  Don't feed the trolls.