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Re: SNATCH STRAPS - what are the good ones ?
« Reply #75 on: January 12, 2012, 10:02:29 AM »
...Captain,
have you read the "up to date reports" you have mentioned ??
Umm... isn't the mention of the reports enough implication I have read them? Do I really have to say "... after reading the new reports, the ARB straps now perform much better due to ...."  ???.


Symon, did you buy on quality or on the "price" you obtained them for  8)

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Re: SNATCH STRAPS - what are the good ones ?
« Reply #76 on: January 12, 2012, 10:07:25 AM »
Umm... isn't the mention of the reports enough implication I have read them?
Do I really have to say "... after reading the new reports, the ARB straps now perform much better due to ...."  ???.


Sorry, what I should have asked is:

where can I ( and anyone else interested ) read these new up to date snatch strap test reports  ;D

a link to the reports would be good

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Re: SNATCH STRAPS - what are the good ones ?
« Reply #77 on: January 12, 2012, 10:10:31 AM »
Sorry, what I should have asked is:

where can I ( and anyone else interested ) read these new up to date snatch strap test reports  ;D

a link to the reports would be good

Thanks  :cheers:
I no longer have the magazine article in question (passed old mags onto my brother some time ago) but hopefully someone else can scan and post it. I don't think 4WD Action has this report on their web site, they want you to buy the  magazine!

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Re: SNATCH STRAPS - what are the good ones ?
« Reply #78 on: January 12, 2012, 09:56:52 PM »
Forgive me if i'm wrong, but the snatch strap comparison mentioned on the first page is from 2003 isn't it?!!!!  What benefit is that 8-9 years later?!!!   I am also in the market for a new snatch strap (don't ask what I did with the last one!!), so have been enjoying the input, but the review from 2003 threw me off completely....  I have since found this comparison (from 2009 I think, arguably not much use either, but still a good read!)
https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=explorer&chrome=true&srcid=0B1HkgGJBnd7EMTdkZjc4YmUtOWJiZC00OTVjLThmMmQtNzk3MDViZjY5MDIx&hl=en_US

and ARB's explanation into the poor result from the 2003 comparison;
http://www.arb.com.au/getting-started/ask-arb/recovery/070%20Recovery%20straps%20-%20country%20of%20manufacture.php

And i'm by no means an ARB fanboi...  it's just nice to know they seem to have fixed their issue and if I do find an ARB strap at the right price I can hand over my hard earned and not be worried....



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Re: SNATCH STRAPS - what are the good ones ?
« Reply #79 on: January 12, 2012, 10:34:09 PM »
wait till your second hour of using it in 35 degrees, you will hurl it as far as you possibly can.... horrible things

LOL.  Check the classifieds for 2nd hand ones.  Most have the phrase "used once" in the ad.


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Re: SNATCH STRAPS - what are the good ones ?
« Reply #80 on: January 13, 2012, 12:36:20 AM »
LOL.  Check the classifieds for 2nd hand ones.  Most have the phrase "used once" in the ad.



mine's "never used" :)
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Re: SNATCH STRAPS - what are the good ones ?
« Reply #81 on: January 13, 2012, 09:01:57 AM »
Read in the second test the Terrain Tamer ($75) snatch strap and the ARB ($93) snatch strap were both rated exactly the same amount of stretch of 13.4% for the 8000kg strap.

However as both of these tests are now many years old the products would have since undergone product upgrades, so the present day manufacturers specifications should be used rather than previous test results, where it can be clearly seen ARB come last in the first test, then next test is first choice ;D

No, I'm not knocking any one product, just pointing out the variations in price for a product of the same rated performance.

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Re: SNATCH STRAPS - what are the good ones ?
« Reply #82 on: January 13, 2012, 10:34:52 AM »
No, have never used one  :-[
but I figure as I can't attach an electric winch to the front of the Ssanyong due to no bullbar, I had better have the next best thing if I'm in a position where I just can't use a snatch strap :'(


Just as a matter of interest - whereabouts will you attach a snatch strap/winch cable to the front of the Ssangyong?
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Re: SNATCH STRAPS - what are the good ones ?
« Reply #83 on: January 13, 2012, 11:34:58 AM »
Just as a matter of interest - whereabouts will you attach a snatch strap/winch cable to the front of the Ssangyong?

To the grill/bumper. When you rip it off it might look better.
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Re: SNATCH STRAPS - what are the good ones ?
« Reply #84 on: January 13, 2012, 11:43:22 AM »
Just as a matter of interest - whereabouts will you attach a snatch strap/winch cable to the front of the Ssangyong?

Under the front at present is a small bash plate, I'm replacing it with a larger plate and 'nudge' bar and the guy is fitting 2 attachments to the chassis rails, there is presently a tow hitch attachment bolted onto the front chassis rail as standard.
I've a towbar rated as suitable for use for snatch recovery when used with the tow bar tongue, which is available from various 4X4 suppliers.

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Re: SNATCH STRAPS - what are the good ones ?
« Reply #85 on: January 13, 2012, 11:47:52 AM »
the guy is fitting 2 attachments to the chassis rails


rated presumably?

and it has a chassis?
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Re: SNATCH STRAPS - what are the good ones ?
« Reply #86 on: January 13, 2012, 12:58:40 PM »
My ARB snatch strap I bought in 2002 is still in one piece, probably been used 10-15 times.  I mostly use it for others as the jeep doesn't get me into trouble these days. It's probably been a few years since I last used it to recover a Toyota on Fraser. On trips I also carry a newer ARB which I bought in 2009 or so, but it's never been used. It's one of things that when I go to areas I think there's a possibility of using it, I take 2. Gotta have your backups ;)

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Re: SNATCH STRAPS - what are the good ones ?
« Reply #87 on: January 13, 2012, 01:22:47 PM »
Some of my gear is Ironman and it has not let me down yet, mostly used for winching though, I dont think I have used the snatch strap yet. It was a large pack which went cheap on ebay a couple of years ago

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Re: SNATCH STRAPS - what are the good ones ?
« Reply #88 on: January 13, 2012, 04:51:10 PM »
My strap has been used 4 times in the last 8 years, twice used by mates to pull me out and twice used pulling mates out.

First question I ask when I come upon a stuck 4WD is where is YOUR strap.

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Re: SNATCH STRAPS - what are the good ones ?
« Reply #89 on: January 13, 2012, 06:15:30 PM »
rated presumably?
Yes,
I was informed they had to be rated for their intended use  ;D

and it has a chassis?
Yes,
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Re: SNATCH STRAPS - what are the good ones ?
« Reply #90 on: January 13, 2012, 06:17:24 PM »
Yes,
I was informed they had to be rated for their intended use  ;D

But they are not rated when fittted...
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Re: SNATCH STRAPS - what are the good ones ?
« Reply #91 on: January 13, 2012, 06:21:15 PM »
But they are not rated when fittted...

Why not  :'(

Please explain  ???

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Re: SNATCH STRAPS - what are the good ones ?
« Reply #92 on: January 13, 2012, 06:31:01 PM »
The recovery point may be rated but how does the installer know the way he has mounted the point is rated?

That would be why ARB has spent $$ making their points rated
http://arb.com.au/media/press/Dec2011_ARBRecoveryPoints.pdf
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Re: SNATCH STRAPS - what are the good ones ?
« Reply #93 on: January 13, 2012, 06:34:43 PM »
My strap has been used 4 times in the last 8 years, twice used by mates to pull me out and twice used pulling mates out.

First question I ask when I come upon a stuck 4WD is where is YOUR strap.


That happens all the time when we go to DI and find someone (idiot usually) who is stuck within the first 50 metres of the cutting. Unless its a really dangerous situation I tell them I don't have one either.............and then ask if they have a shovel...................................  >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D

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Re: SNATCH STRAPS - what are the good ones ?
« Reply #94 on: January 17, 2012, 11:37:58 PM »

The recovery point may be rated but how does the installer know the way he has mounted the point is rated?


Bugga you ask some scary and difficult questions, so I phoned Ssangyong importers in Sydney and all will be good  ;D ;D

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Re: SNATCH STRAPS - what are the good ones ?
« Reply #95 on: January 18, 2012, 03:26:32 PM »

I'm sure Bullivants would also make recovery gear but I bet you'd never see them in a 4x4 magazine.


Symon, Good point, so when I went to pick up the Nobles kit I stopped at Bullivants  ;D

Had a talk before I went in with the guys out in the store and some guys working on mines who were there picking up some gear.

I ended up phoning Nobles and cancelling my order with them, I come home with a BULLIVANTS "recoverfast" snatcg strap

8 tonnes breaking strain, 10 Mt long, made in Australia, Metal eyes are hand assembled not sewn, rubber covered nylon core is abrasion and cut resistant, no need to clean like normal flat straps after use, Oil, Water Mud and Dust proof (according to the written information on the strap)

just don't ask the price as they are not made in China, and they come with a good reputation in the mining field

 

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Re: SNATCH STRAPS - what are the good ones ?
« Reply #96 on: January 18, 2012, 04:16:17 PM »
just don't ask the price

what's the price?
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Re: SNATCH STRAPS - what are the good ones ?
« Reply #97 on: January 18, 2012, 04:35:37 PM »
what's the price?

PM'ed you with answer :-[

I believe, after talking with the mine workers who use that brand on the mine sites, this is the way I want to go, as they look stronger and weigh much more than the Chinese straps.

They part that really sold me on them was they have no stitching to pull apart, that was the major problem with every strap that failed in the 4x4 magazine test.

The $$$ stay here in Australia too  ;D

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« Reply #98 on: January 18, 2012, 05:11:21 PM »
PM'ed you with answer :-[

¡Ay, caramba!

Let me know how you go with it

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Re: SNATCH STRAPS - what are the good ones ?
« Reply #99 on: January 18, 2012, 05:28:19 PM »
¡Ay, caramba!

Let me know how you go with it


I will not have to use it till I get bogged  :'(

It will just sit in it's bag and take up space till needed as insurance, then it will pay for it'self  ;D ;D