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A time to stop and think before you bag that Camper Company
« on: October 07, 2011, 12:30:10 PM »
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Re: A time to stop and think before you bag that Camper Company
« Reply #1 on: October 07, 2011, 01:03:55 PM »
I reckon prevention is better than cure.

Good honest/fair customer service - no defamation issues...
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Re: A time to stop and think before you bag that Camper Company
« Reply #2 on: October 07, 2011, 01:13:17 PM »
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I reckon prevention is better than cure.

Good honest/fair customer service - no defamation issues...
gee you dont want much do you... :p
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Re: A time to stop and think before you bag that Camper Company
« Reply #3 on: October 07, 2011, 01:30:26 PM »


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Re: A time to stop and think before you bag that Camper Company
« Reply #4 on: October 07, 2011, 01:33:33 PM »
Wow I should stop ragging out jayco
Nah I paid for it it sucked I tell people
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Re: A time to stop and think before you bag that Camper Company
« Reply #5 on: October 07, 2011, 03:03:58 PM »
This issue has come up before....

http://myswag.org/forum/index.php?topic=5930.0
http://myswag.org/forum/index.php?topic=3507.0
http://myswag.org/forum/index.php?topic=6452.0
http://myswag.org/forum/index.php?topic=1440.0

End of the day you need to remember a few things -

1. you are not anonymous online
2. there is no legal right to free speech in Australia
3. if you don't have the money or ability (ie facts) to back up your comments in a court of law, it is best to not make the comments
4. if you think what I have said above is bogus, go start your own forum and do what you like
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Re: A time to stop and think before you bag that Camper Company
« Reply #6 on: October 07, 2011, 03:23:59 PM »
Quote from: Symon on October 07, 2011, 03:03:58 PM
3. if you don't have the money or ability (ie facts) to back up your comments in a court of law, it is best to not make the comments
Exactly.

It's not defamation if it's true. HOWEVER, it can take a LOT of money to prove that! Especially when it's a single person vs a company with a barrage of lawyers and a point to make  ;D.

Good reminder.

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Re: A time to stop and think before you bag that Camper Company
« Reply #7 on: October 07, 2011, 04:12:12 PM »


- if you state clearly that what you are saying or typing is your opinion, then it is very hard to be sued for defamation

- if you state that something is a fact then you can be sued.


this is just my opinion though...   :angel:

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Re: A time to stop and think before you bag that Camper Company
« Reply #8 on: October 07, 2011, 04:15:57 PM »
If anyone takes my opinion seriously, is it then reasonably practicable to sue them?  ;D
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Re: A time to stop and think before you bag that Camper Company
« Reply #9 on: October 07, 2011, 04:21:39 PM »
Yes I can see alot of this occurring.

There are ways of expressing your opinion about a company or bad dealings with some one but make sure you have your facts first.

I know this is off track but working in real estate we can be fined up to $54,000 if we give any indication of a price to a buyer for a property going to Auction.

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Re: A time to stop and think before you bag that Camper Company
« Reply #10 on: October 07, 2011, 04:26:08 PM »
Thin end of the wedge etc.

Damn, I am going to have to wind up http://www.bigjulesdoesnthavebigjewels.com.au
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Re: A time to stop and think before you bag that Camper Company
« Reply #11 on: October 07, 2011, 04:29:07 PM »
I will seek some insurance for damages caused by me, err, typing my opinion.  8)

Any brokers on here, there's a market!
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Re: A time to stop and think before you bag that Camper Company
« Reply #12 on: October 07, 2011, 04:54:11 PM »
Quote from: cootha on October 07, 2011, 04:12:12 PM
then it is very hard to be convicted of defamation

There we go - fixed that up for you. You don't have to be guilty to have someone sue you, and the process (and money and time) is the same regardless of whether you are or not.

Quote from: Squalo on October 07, 2011, 04:26:08 PM
Damn, I am going to have to wind up http://www.bigjulesdoesnthavebigjewels.com.au

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Quote from: DANBRI on October 07, 2011, 04:15:57 PM
If anyone takes my opinion seriously, is it then reasonably practicable to sue them?  ;D

I've been doing it for years! Puts bread on the table.

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Re: A time to stop and think before you bag that Camper Company
« Reply #13 on: October 07, 2011, 05:00:39 PM »
Quote from: Symon on October 07, 2011, 03:03:58 PM
2. there is no legal right to free speech in Australia

Yeah, just ask Andrew Bolt about that
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Re: A time to stop and think before you bag that Camper Company
« Reply #14 on: October 07, 2011, 05:06:38 PM »
Quote from: D4D on October 07, 2011, 05:00:39 PM
Yeah, just ask Andrew Bolt about that
Fun factiod - there's no "right to free speech" in America either, at least not in the manner that most everyone assumes (which is generally "Absolute Freedom Of Speech").

When it comes to defamation, Derryn Hinch is my go-to guy. Let's face it, he's probably got the most experience.  ;D

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Re: A time to stop and think before you bag that Camper Company
« Reply #15 on: October 07, 2011, 05:15:14 PM »
Quote from: Symon on October 07, 2011, 03:03:58 PM
This issue has come up before....



End of the day you need to remember a few things -

1. you are not anonymous online
2. there is no legal right to free speech in Australia
3. if you don't have the money or ability (ie facts) to back up your comments in a court of law, it is best to not make the comments
4. if you think what I have said above is bogus, go start your own forum and do what you like


Well said Symon. The internet is not as anonymous as many would think and i would not like to see any of our members taken to task legally for any misguided comments even if well intentioned.

Cheers

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Re: A time to stop and think before you bag that Camper Company
« Reply #16 on: October 07, 2011, 05:24:23 PM »
Quote from: D4D on October 07, 2011, 05:00:39 PM
Yeah, just ask Andrew Bolt about that

interesting case that, he actually got in trouble for stating as fact the lineage and upbringing of some of those people.  He got some of them completely wrong.  That's what he was done for.  The other opinion stuff (let's not go there) which got all the attention was left alone in the ruling. 
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Re: A time to stop and think before you bag that Camper Company
« Reply #17 on: October 07, 2011, 06:49:21 PM »
I once had an opinion,  I kept it to myself lest Juliar discover how to tax it!
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Re: A time to stop and think before you bag that Camper Company
« Reply #18 on: October 07, 2011, 08:16:03 PM »
Oh dear I'm sorry what I should have said was

Every business is awesome and they all deserve our hard earned
They never do bad jobs over and over again

What we should do close down all forums because everything is perfect and if we need things done we shouldn't DIY cause we are doing businesses out of work
nor should we be camping in the bush we should all camp in designated caravan park spots



Wow hasn't this place changed


As a consumer I read reviews from real people on products that they have purchased some are good and some are bad reviews. What we are now saying here we shouldn't write bad reviews WTF ???

People need to take other peoples opinions as opinions and use them in ways that would suit them.

How many times have people asked the question "I am buy blahhhh what should I look out for or what options should I look at and not look at ?"

The answer to the above question should now be the product is great and you should tick all the option boxes as the organisation that sell them only sells top quality products.

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