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Best Camper/Caravan style for hot weather?
« on: September 17, 2011, 07:30:30 PM »
Hi all,
i have a soft floor camper and it gets quite hot inside during the summer (am looking at making a tropical roof), but this got me wondering what camper or caravan is the coolest in the hot weather?
All things being equal, so no air con.
1. Soft Floor Camper
2. Hard Floor Camper
3. Jayco style camper
4. Pop top Caravan
5. Full Size Caravan

Any thoughts???

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Re: Best Camper/Caravan style for hot weather?
« Reply #1 on: September 17, 2011, 07:50:37 PM »
any of the last 3 with a/c fitted  ;D ;D
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Re: Best Camper/Caravan style for hot weather?
« Reply #2 on: September 17, 2011, 07:57:12 PM »
If you dont wish to use an AC, I would have thought any that are raised off of the hot ground with good ventilation should help ???
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Re: Best Camper/Caravan style for hot weather?
« Reply #3 on: September 17, 2011, 08:43:06 PM »
I've found over the years that some soft floor campers don't offer good ventilation.
A lot of them do, but some of the cheaper ones don't.
The canvas also tends to get quite hot.
Hard floor ones have pretty much the same.
(not knocking them, just giving my experiences)

We currently use a Jayco and other than a couple of strips of canvas between windows it can pretty much be opened up all around.
Good flymesh on all windows also give great protection as well as terrific air flow.
The hard roof also offers a degree of insulation.
We tarp the lot with the roof racks on in summer as added protection and its lovely and cool inside with no ac.

Pop tops and full size vans can get hot without air con. Also most don't have large or many windows.

Disclaimer - I realise that some models etc are better than others and have various features, I am talking about the general mass of styles you asked about.
I'm sure there are other opinions and people may be able to offer better model specific advise.
I've used all of them and for hot weather I'd prefer the jayco.
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« Reply #4 on: September 17, 2011, 08:47:17 PM »
I have just made a solar blanket for mine, will take some pics in the morning and post.

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« Reply #5 on: September 17, 2011, 09:24:31 PM »
I have just made a solar blanket for mine, will take some pics in the morning and post.

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Re: Best Camper/Caravan style for hot weather?
« Reply #6 on: September 17, 2011, 11:14:43 PM »
Our winsor rapid is pretty good in the heat.
The air con may have something to do with it. :lol:

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« Reply #7 on: September 18, 2011, 07:10:22 AM »
Having owned both a soft floor and a Jayco, I can say that the Jayco is the best for air-flowing through as you can open up around 90% of the canvas. Each time I do it I'm amazed at how quickly it cools the inside down.


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« Reply #8 on: September 19, 2011, 09:31:42 PM »
Here's some picks of the solar blanket I made on the weekend, all I have to do now is get my canvas guy to sew in some reinforcing and eyelets.  I was very impressed with the performance of the solar blanket and took some measurements with a thermometer.

1 - CT setup in full sun at midday.
2 - Measure outside air temp = 35 degrees.
3 - Held thermometer against the underside of the awning, used a stick at the opposite end of the thermometer bulb to hold the thermometer against the canvas, temp was a suprising 50 degrees.
4 - Held the thermometer against the underside of the main tent canvas with solar blanket over, temp was 35 degrees or some 15 degrees cooler than under the awning canvas.
5 - Hung thermometer on a string in the middle of the main tent and found the temperature was 31 degrees and 4 degrees cooler than outside.

The material I used was Air-Cell 'Glareshield' which is a insulation, vapour barrier and radiant barrier (fights heat loss and heat gain), it is also water-resistant and unaffected by moisture and is resistant to insects and anti-fungal.

see attached pictures

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« Reply #9 on: December 05, 2011, 07:38:25 AM »
Here's some picks of the solar blanket I made on the weekend, all I have to do now is get my canvas guy to sew in some reinforcing and eyelets.  I was very impressed with the performance of the solar blanket and took some measurements with a thermometer.

1 - CT setup in full sun at midday.
2 - Measure outside air temp = 35 degrees.
3 - Held thermometer against the underside of the awning, used a stick at the opposite end of the thermometer bulb to hold the thermometer against the canvas, temp was a suprising 50 degrees.
4 - Held the thermometer against the underside of the main tent canvas with solar blanket over, temp was 35 degrees or some 15 degrees cooler than under the awning canvas.
5 - Hung thermometer on a string in the middle of the main tent and found the temperature was 31 degrees and 4 degrees cooler than outside.

The material I used was Air-Cell 'Glareshield' which is a insulation, vapour barrier and radiant barrier (fights heat loss and heat gain), it is also water-resistant and unaffected by moisture and is resistant to insects and anti-fungal.

see attached pictures

I like the idea of this .....a few questions .......is it bulky to carry ??? May could fold and carry on top of bed so that would be ok . Where did you get the Air -Cell and how much was it ??

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Re: Best Camper/Caravan style for hot weather?
« Reply #10 on: December 05, 2011, 12:29:04 PM »
We had an Air Cell  solar blanket on our Challenge soft floor camper and its effectiveness was marginal to fair.  A decent shower would see water sneak underneath it and keep the canvas wet which was a pain if packing up a day later.  They aren't bulky unless you carry them separate to the camper.  We folded it up whilst it was on the roof.  It made the camper darker for sleeping (which was good) but not necessarily great during the day. We now have a Swan Outback and when hot, it is noticeably cooler due to the ability to keep 80-90% of the canvas section's open and ventilated.
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Re: Best Camper/Caravan style for hot weather?
« Reply #11 on: December 05, 2011, 09:19:16 PM »
Hi Hargs,

It's not bulky to carry at all as simply folds in 1/2 along the join, then folds over twice and sits on the bed,  I fold it in the same spot each time which hasn't had any negative impact on the material, if it does I will probably just use the special reinforced silver tap to fix it. 

Am thinking of leaving it on the CT roof when folding it all away and will try over Xmas.  Only worry is the shiny side being aluminium may leave a black mark on the canvas although I think the shiny side will all fold up onto its self so shouldnt be a problem.

I got the air-cell insulation off a roofer for nothing as was left over from a job, you could also try builders or shed erectors if you know any, as there are many similar products?  Even air cell has a couple of different products with one looking very similar to the woven blue tarp material on both sides. 
Try  http://www.kingspaninsulation.com.au/Products/Kingspan-Air-Cell/AIR-CELL-Insulbreak/Overview.aspx 

You should also be able to shop around and the local hardware or Bunnings, however a full 30 mtr roll will allow you to do about 3 CT's.

The only money I spent was $80.00 to get a canvas guy to run a PVC edge strip with eyelets around the perimeter of the blanket.

Hi Gadgetman,

I find the performance of the solar blanket to be fantastic as is significally cooler in summer and warmer in winter.  My test shows an outside temp of 35 degrees, inside CT temp of 32 degrees and a temp directly under the awning of 50 degrees with a temp directly under the CT roof that is insulated of only 30 degrees.  So inside of the CT was cooler than the ambient temp outside due to the reduction of heat transfer through the the canvas from radiation, convection and conduction.

I have walked into the various CT's at camping shows with and without a solar blanket and you can easily feel the difference which was also noted by many others.

It did rain heavily one night on a recent camping trip and found it to be a little noisy (was raining very heavy) however everyone still slept well.  Next day (which was pack up day) the roof of the CT was still dry except for around the very edges (blanket is impervious) so all I did was take the blanket off the CT, pack up the kitchen, beds, chairs etc which by this time the roof was dry and fold the lot away. 

Interestingly the roof of the CT would have been wet with or without the blanket and the blanket does keep the dew off and condensation away.

Hope this info helps

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Re: Best Camper/Caravan style for hot weather?
« Reply #12 on: June 29, 2015, 12:44:39 PM »
Hi Wartim,

What did you use to join the two sections together. I am looking at following the same idea as you did.

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« Reply #13 on: July 04, 2015, 10:31:08 AM »
You can buy the reinforced aluminium foil tape from where you buy the air cell from or any decent hardware store.  Comes in various widths and really sticks well.  I ran on both sides of the join.  You could also edge the blanket with it if you wanted to although I got a canvas guy to sew a vinyl strip around the edge of mine and then place some brass eyelets in the vinyl strip.

details on the reinforced foil tape here - http://www.kingspaninsulation.com.au/Products/Kingspan-AIR-CELL/AIR-CELL%C2%AE-Insulation-Tape/Overview 

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Re: Best Camper/Caravan style for hot weather?
« Reply #14 on: July 04, 2015, 10:44:04 AM »
Air flow is number 2 in order.......parking in the shade is number 1.

Nothing comes close to shade on a hot day, and if you can't get full shade, afternoon shade is better than morning..
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