What Tyres Do You Roll On?

[Big Nath]

Call me Stupid, why is everyone so keen on BFG?

And what do u have against Coopers?

Cheers

[Hairs]

Call me Stupid, why is everyone so keen on BFG?

And what do u have against Coopers?

Cheers

Hey Stupid,  
Nah, seriously,
It's a P&^%ing comp. Thats all it is.
I wouldn't put either on my Cruiser,  I don't play enough in the mud to warrant having a Mud tyre and  Coopers well, I've never tried them, but I've heard mixed stories about them.
I'm happy with my Bridgies(604V), they've served me well.
I also feel, that not every tyre is suited to every vehicle. you can can put Coopers on one vehicle and get completely different results to another, just like you would with Bridgestones. And everyone runs different tyre pressures, I'm happy with 42-44psi in mine, I don't mind the harder rider, others are happy to run 34-36 in theirs, so that changes the life of a tyre as well.
It's also a loyalty thing as well I guess.
 
Have a good one

[Big Nath]

Cheers, thanks for the reply.

When i was looking to re shoe the PF, i spoke to the guys at my local tyre outlet, his words to me where "there have been a few issues with coopers, but we need to expect that. The more they sell the higher % of market they have meaning that they still have a 3% fail rate, and because there are so many on the market that 3% looks massive"

That make sence??
 
Cheers

[Redback]

Coopers are rubbish, I went through 3 sets before I gave up on them, chipping, lugs tearing off, wearing out, the warrenty was the only reason I stuck with them hoping that eventually I would get a good set and they would last.

I wouldn't put Coopers on if you gave them to me

Baz.

[Markss]

If a company is interested in improving their product, the % failure should decrease as the sales increase.  Otherwise they are reinforcing the same mistake.

Typically however companies try to offset the cost of improving engineering/production by spending more on marketing - you know like saying a tyre alone has the capability to pull a semi-trailer out of a bog - or other bs.

[Hairs]

you know like saying a tyre alone has the capability to pull a semi-trailer out of a bog - or other bs.

Agree, Marketing plays a big part of it as well.
Get people talking about your product enough and the bad points seem to disappear.

[Chippy76]

Call me Stupid, why is everyone so keen on BFG?

And what do u have against Coopers?

Cheers

I think BFG's have a good name, they seem to last as well. My mate had BFG ATs on his Jeep Wrangler and they were a good tyre. I have coopers ATR on our Rav4 and I have not been happy with the wear rate. The rear tyres have worn VERY quickly in the centre of the tread (and no they arent over inflated) and I think as an AT they are closer to a HT tread pattern. The other gripe I have is that the Cooper tyre warranty only applies if you live in a major city centre. They will not warrant tyre regularly driven on "rough" rural roads, and I thought that was the idea of an "ALL TERRAIN" tyre. 

I personally run 33" Goodyear Wrangler MTRS on my landcruiser ute, and I have pulled about 60 thou each out of both sets. If I can find the $$$$ I will certainly go with the same again. Like John Laws use to say , "When you're on a good thing, stick to it!"

Cheers Chippy

[jaycamrie]

Coopers are rubbish, I went through 3 sets before I gave up on them, chipping, lugs tearing off, wearing out, the warrenty was the only reason I stuck with them hoping that eventually I would get a good set and they would last.

I wouldn't put Coopers on if you gave them to me

Baz.

mate of mine was declined warranty because they reckened he was not running the right pressure

[Maîneÿ . . .]

This thread is starting to make me wonder about the Cooper advertising
using the Ron Moon 'add' of his traveling all over the place and not needing his plug kit etc

http://www.coopertires.com.au/index.php?page=testimonials

 

[Alloy C/T]

Bridgstone Duelers 694 AT in LT construction and run them at tyre placard pressure on the Rodeo - dirt - gibber -mud -and asphalt , we get it all just to go for a grocery shoping trip of a 250klm round trip so who's going to continually change pressures ?  5 wheel rotate every 10 thou or so , 50 thou so far and recon will get another 20/25 thou before getting to wear marks,,,,  Put same on wifes Jeep Cheerokee after Coopers only lasted 30 thou due to chipping and lugs failing , Coopers warranty not worth the toilet paper its printed on.

[Redback]

mate of mine was declined warranty because they reckened he was not running the right pressure

They tried that on with us too, I told them I run the manufacturers recommended pressures for my vehicle and offroad pressures recommended by the tyre outlet that Cooper recommended, you can check the pressure now if you like, his reply was, Oh, OK, (STs)that was 6000ks, they replaced them no questions asked with STCs.

The second time I brought the car in to have the tyres checked(15,000ks) they said, they don't look that bad, when I pointed out the cracking at the base of the lugs, his reply was (and I quote) "it only seems to be on a few, not realy enough to replace them"WTF??

We did a high country trip, then took the car back with complete lugs torn off, around 5000ks later, apparently that was enough they were replaced with STTs, a slight cost to us because of the milage we had done

Never again, I replaced the STTs with 25,000ks on them, they had lugs missing and further chipping and cracking, to dangerous to continue with them, I went to Nankang Mudstars as they were cheap and I needed tyres for our upcoming trip.

Baz.

[Bird]

This thread is starting to make me wonder about the Cooper advertising using the Ron Moon 'add' of his traveling all over the place and not needing his plug kit etc
http://www.coopertires.com.au/index.php?page=manure

If I was given free tyres everytime i asked for them, I'd say what ever they liked and they could use that everywhere they wanted

[Maîneÿ . . .]

The Ssangyong runs 18" tyres
I measured their height compared to a Nissan Patrol with Bridgestone Dueler A/T's and found mine were a bit taller

[Burnsy]

I am sure some of the Cooper high end tyres are alright (although you do hear bad stories about them as well) but they also make a heap of low end garbage and people just lump them all in as one.  My old man for instance, read a 4wd action review that said coopers were the best so just went and bought the cheapest coopers, which are actually garbage.

As for me I have to good of a run out of my BFG AT's to change as they are a big investment so you don't want to buy duds so I will stay with them. 

[Bird]

The Ssangyong runs 18" tyres

Talkin with Awill4x4 his new Paj had 18's to but theres no selection of decent tyres for them... he has gone 17's.. what tyres would you change to, or run them out first?

[Redback]

I am sure some of the Cooper high end tyres are alright (although you do hear bad stories about them as well) but they also make a heap of low end garbage and people just lump them all in as one.  My old man for instance, read a 4wd action review that said coopers were the best so just went and bought the cheapest coopers, which are actually garbage.

As for me I have to good of a run out of my BFG AT's to change as they are a big investment so you don't want to buy duds so I will stay with them. 

S/T, ST-C and STTs are not cheap and are supposed to be the best they make.

Baz.

[Hairs]

250klm round trip so who's going to continually change pressures ?  5 wheel rotate every 10 thou or so

Don't blame ya for not changing pressures. But the key is to rotate.
I do every oil change(5000k) maybe a little to often, who knows.
I first noticed this when I first had the new rubber put on. After 10000k's of towing and a fair bit of weight in the back I measured the tread depth and the rears had worn a Tad more that the fronts. So I started to change them every 5000k's and they are wearing the same now.
 

[Squalo]

Call me Stupid, why is everyone so keen on BFG?

And what do u have against Coopers?

Cheers

BFG just seem to be very well proven, and most people who try them seem to stay with them. I might change to Kumhos simply because they are also known to be a good tyre and you might as well try different options.

I got KM2 because Mrs Squalo wanted quieter tyres, and the KM2 is comparable to an AT despite being a brilliant mud tyre.

I quite liked my STTs, so have nothing against Cooper at all - they held up well to some severe offroad (ab)use while playing at Glasshouse Mountains. They were totally dead at 40,000km though. And overall they just aren't as good as the KM2s.

[mr_cougar79]

I run Cooper ST's on the cruiser 285/75R16,to be honest they were on it when i purchased it..I had ran Goodyear MTR's on my old cruiser and found i didnt do enough off road stuff to warrant the MTR's..I don't have a problem with the Coopers and haven't found any damage of the tread as yet but will keep my eye on them from what i've read here..The camper run's a set of Kuhmo ATR i think but cant recall the actual size?maybe 235/75R15???

[Sharky]

I've had no problems with the Coopers ST 285/75R16. The first set did 80k on one pair and 90k on the other pair. That included the GRR twice, the Tanami and the Vic high country with everything in between. Sure I had chips out of lugs and the odd crack but nothing to render the tyre unserviceable. It's also the sort of wear I would expect from use on those kind of roads. So I've stuck with them as I think that they provided very good value for money an excellent balance between wear/ride/grip qualities. Now 20k into the new set with no problems. I'm pretty religious about balancing, rotation and pressures, though.

I hear bad stories and good stories about Coopers, but then I do hear them about most brands. Some of the bad stories I sympathise with, some I do not (particularly those about tyre damage after having been flogged on proper low range tracks - tyres are a consumable item and the harder they are used the faster they will be consumed). The 100 series had Kumhos fitted when I bought it but I could never get them properly balanced. Have had no such trouble with the Coopers.

Like the Toyota/Nissan debate, it's each to their own...
 

[gruesome]

We run BFG 265/75/16 on the Prado and the camper trailer, they have over 50K on them now and still a fair bit to go wear wise yet.  Also makes it easier, as they are all interchangable between the vehicle and camper trailer, they have the odd cut and chip out of them but nothing real bad just normal wear and tear for off road tyres as far as I'm concerned,
cheers Andy

[albany_nomads]

Run Maxxis 751 Bravo on the Rodeo Ute and Sava RV on the camper, so far happy..but then I'm not an aggressive driver and my vehicle and camper don't get the punishment of trips like the Cape York Run....so as they say horses for courses..Ive had heavy lug tyres in the past but have found them to noisy on the bitumen..as such happy with the Maxxis..