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Re: Interesting Day Yesterday
« Reply #25 on: June 07, 2011, 06:31:20 PM »
When you get a few more Ks on the clock it may lousen up a bit more , all the same very impressive  ;D
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Re: Interesting Day Yesterday
« Reply #26 on: June 07, 2011, 08:59:43 PM »
Like all modern vehicles these days, you'll have to wait for parts.

OK the 4WD version of the wagon


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Re: Interesting Day Yesterday
« Reply #27 on: July 03, 2011, 03:07:38 PM »
I check out the 2wd dual cab Amarok, for I am in the market to replace my VR Ute, the Amarok is nearly the same price as the Hilux, about $650.oo diff and so I took one for a spin for about 1hr ith a mate of mine...what suprised me was that it was easier to drive then the 4wd Hiluxs we have at work, and compared to the Colorado 2 wd Dual Cab Colorado I drive for, well its no contest...The 2wd Amarok blows it into the weeds.
It has better fuel economy, better power band starting at 1700rpm, feels more solid, better screwed together, better ride height  at 265mm, more options it is just a better overall product.

Those were the good points.

Now for the deal breaker...which I am still shaking my head over...

The RRP is $33K + on roads etc, dealer wanted with Diff lock, on roads and such....$41,500....wanted to charge nearly $7000 for dealer delivery charges...$7000, talk about highway robbery!
Their excuse is that it costs that amount to bring them out to Australia...talk about thievery!

Spares and such, this will be a problem, if your stuck in say, in  Alice, for the spares may have to come from the HQ in Sydney for the time being, plus dealers are far and few between North of Brisbane, but what is really bad, is that some of the dealers of VW are owned by the same company, so their is no competition between dealers..ie SE Qld.
So it will be difficult to get the best deal by playing one dealer off against another for the best price, which takes all the fun out of the chase.
This can not be said for Toyota, Holden, Nissan, Ford and such, there are heaps of dealers and they will bargin if pushed...
At preseent there is no real second hand market for the Amarok, which will take time to develop and time will tell if they hold their price.
Having said all that, I will wait for the single cab version to come out in early 2012, but in the mean time, if I can get a 2wd Amarok Dual Cab with rear diff lock and have a good change over deal for about $30k , I would plunk the hard earned down on one tommorrow.
 
 

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« Reply #28 on: July 03, 2011, 03:48:56 PM »
I check out the 2wd dual cab Amarok, for I am in the market to replace my VR Ute, the Amarok is nearly the same price as the Hilux, about $650.oo diff and so I took one for a spin for about 1hr ith a mate of mine...what suprised me was that it was easier to drive then the 4wd Hiluxs we have at work, and compared to the Colorado 2 wd Dual Cab Colorado I drive for, well its no contest...The 2wd Amarok blows it into the weeds.
It has better fuel economy, better power band starting at 1700rpm, feels more solid, better screwed together, better ride height  at 265mm, more options it is just a better overall product.

Those were the good points.

Now for the deal breaker...which I am still shaking my head over...

The RRP is $33K + on roads etc, dealer wanted with Diff lock, on roads and such....$41,500....wanted to charge nearly $7000 for dealer delivery charges...$7000, talk about highway robbery!
Their excuse is that it costs that amount to bring them out to Australia...talk about thievery!


Spares and such, this will be a problem, if your stuck in say, in  Alice, for the spares may have to come from the HQ in Sydney for the time being, plus dealers are far and few between North of Brisbane, but what is really bad, is that some of the dealers of VW are owned by the same company, so their is no competition between dealers..ie SE Qld.
So it will be difficult to get the best deal by playing one dealer off against another for the best price, which takes all the fun out of the chase.
This can not be said for Toyota, Holden, Nissan, Ford and such, there are heaps of dealers and they will bargin if pushed...
At preseent there is no real second hand market for the Amarok, which will take time to develop and time will tell if they hold their price.
Having said all that, I will wait for the single cab version to come out in early 2012, but in the mean time, if I can get a 2wd Amarok Dual Cab with rear diff lock and have a good change over deal for about $30k , I would plunk the hard earned down on one tommorrow.
 
 



Does that include stamp duty??

The price we got was $38,465 for the 2WD, $48,794 for the 4WD base model, drive away no more to pay, from McGrath at Sutherland.

I think you need to shop around.

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Re: Interesting Day Yesterday
« Reply #29 on: July 03, 2011, 06:10:12 PM »

Does that include stamp duty??

The price we got was $38,465 for the 2WD, $48,794 for the 4WD base model, drive away no more to pay, from McGrath at Sutherland.

I think you need to shop around.

Baz


Checked the WWW, I got a price of $34689 drive away from a dealer in Brisbane through Discountcars.com,www.discountnewcars.com.au/demo-cars/volkswagen/amarok/10337478.aspx its a demonstrator...but hey...
The original price quoted by the VW dealer in Lismore was about $40,000 drive away. The Ultimate they had in the yard, on the road was $50,000, so they were going to deal on the high end models, but with the poverty packs, the dealer is playing hard ball.
Wasting my time with this dealer...
So next week I'm off to Brisbane for  family function...time to kick some tyres and haggle.

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The bloke I was with also tried the Triton and again the HiLux, just on the off chance we were dreamin, the Triton is well optioned for the price...the HiLux...well, Toyota have lived on their reputation for too long, well overpriced for what you get.
But still, I kept on coming back to the Amarok, it sounds wierd, the Amarok is physically a big ute, but feels small and it drives like our small 307 Pug, we threw over some rough stuff on the way to Whyralla on a mates farm, very nice and shore footed,  the others, felt big to drive, by the way, my mate wants to put his Dual Cab HiLux SR5  12 months old up for sale...
He's got the hots for the Trendline, heading of to Brisbane next month to get one, with options and such...it is $4560 cheaper than a Toyota Hi Lux SR5.
All we wanted to do was kick some tyres...wait until the minister of finance finds out....
 
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Re: Interesting Day Yesterday
« Reply #30 on: July 03, 2011, 06:18:58 PM »
....wanted to charge nearly $7000 for dealer delivery charges...$7000, talk about highway robbery!
Their excuse is that it costs that amount to bring them out to Australia...talk about thievery!

I've bought 2 Audis new and paid <$1000 for dealer delivery. Find another dealer.
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Re: Interesting Day Yesterday
« Reply #31 on: July 04, 2011, 09:05:23 AM »
Checked the WWW, I got a price of $34689 drive away from a dealer in Brisbane through Discountcars.com,www.discountnewcars.com.au/demo-cars/volkswagen/amarok/10337478.aspx its a demonstrator...but hey...
The original price quoted by the VW dealer in Lismore was about $40,000 drive away. The Ultimate they had in the yard, on the road was $50,000, so they were going to deal on the high end models, but with the poverty packs, the dealer is playing hard ball.
Wasting my time with this dealer...
So next week I'm off to Brisbane for  family function...time to kick some tyres and haggle.

P.S

The bloke I was with also tried the Triton and again the HiLux, just on the off chance we were dreamin, the Triton is well optioned for the price...the HiLux...well, Toyota have lived on their reputation for too long, well overpriced for what you get.
But still, I kept on coming back to the Amarok, it sounds wierd, the Amarok is physically a big ute, but feels small and it drives like our small 307 Pug, we threw over some rough stuff on the way to Whyralla on a mates farm, very nice and shore footed,  the others, felt big to drive, by the way, my mate wants to put his Dual Cab HiLux SR5  12 months old up for sale...
He's got the hots for the Trendline, heading of to Brisbane next month to get one, with options and such...it is $4560 cheaper than a Toyota Hi Lux SR5.
All we wanted to do was kick some tyres...wait until the minister of finance finds out....
 


The other option is to wait for the new Ranger, supposed to be as big as the Amarok, reported to be 90% the size of the F150, then compare it to the Amarok.

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Re: Interesting Day Yesterday
« Reply #32 on: July 04, 2011, 08:10:36 PM »
The other option is to wait for the new Ranger, supposed to be as big as the Amarok, reported to be 90% the size of the F150, then compare it to the Amarok.

Baz.

The VW dealer was a Mazda agent as well, so I checked into the Bt 50, the sibling of the Ranger, I have driven the Bt 50 at work, 2010 model, nice, ample power, but the bloody turning circle...the Queen Mary could turn quicker, I hope the new model is better.

But I compared the price of the BT 50 against the Amarok, $500 diff in the Amaroks favour with the options I need, plus some of these facts in the Amaroks' favour....

Regardless of the GM of the Amarok when the tray is loaded ie max 1300Kg, yes 1300kg, plus 5 up, you can still pull max 2000kg with the 2wd without effecting the RTA rule of being overweight. In having the 4 motion, this goes up to 3000kg you can tow without effecting the overweight rule.
Fuel economy, the diesel BT50 4x4 , 11.5 / 100km, BT 50 2wd 9.5/ 100km... the Amarok 2wd / 4 motion...   7.0l/100km,  and it is bigger than the BT 50 / Ranger setup and Amarok has a AMSTAR rating of 5, the others are still at 3 of maybe 4 if you option them up.

The new single cab Amarok comes out in late 2011, so that will be interesting, VW claims 5.8 to 6l/100km with the diesel, still the high ride height and diff lock.

I have just one thing that puts the Amarok at a disadvantage in Australia and keeps me thinking...reliability/cost of parts / price second hand and dealer backup west of the Great Divide...but at the moment the VW Amarok has the inside running.....

 

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Re: Interesting Day Yesterday
« Reply #33 on: July 05, 2011, 07:55:00 AM »
I don't think it matters what you buy nowdays, your going to wait for parts regardless of what you drive, knowbody carrys parts anymore, even big dealers in the city don't, you might get filters and belts and the like but parts that stop the car will be a 3 day wait minimum, sometimes even longer if the part has to come in from overseas, I've seen it first hand when in remote areas.

I wouldn't let that stop you.

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Re: Interesting Day Yesterday
« Reply #34 on: July 05, 2011, 10:00:11 AM »
Interesting reading about the Amarok, and the talk about parts, resale, and so forth.

Has anybody asked about the servicing cost to compare each vehicle.

Sometimes the cost of servicing can cause a few heart flutters.

How often is a service?

How  much for a major service and when is it?

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« Reply #35 on: July 05, 2011, 08:03:57 PM »
Servicing approx every 15000Km..but with diesels, they can be pushed a bit further out if you change the oil and filters regularly.
The cost of service...salesman said closel to Japanese 4wds, so about $400 -600 for minimal...$1000+ for the majors...that's if you use the dealer...but we all know, you can get handbook servicing from others.
My sister in law got her Subuaru Outback serviced, 2008 model..$800 she plunked down for a major service, our Pug307 diesel....$300 to $450 for regular checkup.
The cost of spare parts...not cheap, but the Amarok is built in Angentina.

But for actuals costs...there may be a swagger with a Amarok who can fill us in.

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The NRMA Open Road came today, seems they were reading my mind....here is their Video report on the Amaraok...
www.youtube.com/user/nrmadriverseat#p/u/0/l7e_SfYsteE
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