Could you survive.

[darren]

Which bits would you eat first Darren?  and would anyone need a cigarette afterwoods.

You may be getting confused with Armin Meiwes.

[D4D]

No... Prado drivers. because i know they are soft and tender...

Touche

[Bill]

I reckon Morag and I would survive.
I have been a hunter outdorsman my whole life so no problems with building a decent comfy shelter or gathering meat.
Morag is an excellent gardener so I really dont see a veggie garden as a big problem either.
She also has many many plant books so eating edible plants until the garden is harvested will be fine.
And of course having done my time in the armed forces will help when the riff raff decide they want to try and take what we have.
And that people will be the biggest problem!!
All the punks and lowlife scum will come crawling out of the woodwork once law and order breaks down...
Bill and Morag

[Heiny]

We are 175m above sea level, plenty of livestock and market gardens in the local area, we also live in a wine region so should have no problems here

[Wato]

Slightly off topic but along the same lines, I was thinking the other day what I would do if the nuclear disaster esculates. Couldn't remember which way the Pacific Ocean winds move, clockwise or anti clockwise. Where would you head to escape contamination remembering that plant and animal life are effected by fallout. Best Idea that came to mind was the western side of the Great Australian Bight, winds from the south and west with plentiful fishing from the southern ocean.
Any ideas ?

Craig


PS I'm not a doomsdayer, was just thinking.

[D4D]

[Manjimike]

Slightly off topic but along the same lines, I was thinking the other day what I would do if the nuclear disaster esculates. Couldn't remember which way the Pacific Ocean winds move, clockwise or anti clockwise. Where would you head to escape contamination remembering that plant and animal life are effected by fallout. Best Idea that came to mind was the western side of the Great Australian Bight, winds from the south and west with plentiful fishing from the southern ocean.
Any ideas ?

Craig


PS I'm not a doomsdayer, was just thinking.

It was actually the disasters in Japan that made me think about it. When you consider the proportion of Japan that will be effected, if the same proportion of Australia was affected we would probably be in the manure.
Fortunately Manjimup is about 280m asl and I can take my kayak to the coast (if I have fuel)

 
Mike

[Redback]

I reckon Morag and I would survive.
I have been a hunter outdorsman my whole life so no problems with building a decent comfy shelter or gathering meat.
Morag is an excellent gardener so I really dont see a veggie garden as a big problem either.
She also has many many plant books so eating edible plants until the garden is harvested will be fine.
And of course having done my time in the armed forces will help when the riff raff decide they want to try and take what we have.
And that people will be the biggest problem!!
All the punks and lowlife scum will come crawling out of the woodwork once law and order breaks down...
Bill and Morag

As long as you remember the seeds

[darren]

[Matto]

We live in an area that I'd think was unlikely to be affected by natural disasters...

Same here. FNQ's pretty safe. So far this year we've only had a couple of cyclones, flooding, and the earthquake yesterday. That's pretty standard for everywhere, isn't it?  

Cairns had it's own tsunami a couple of years ago. Live updates on the radio, people were seriously panicking. The roads were gridlocked. People were dragging double-axle caravans up Lake Morris road, which at some places is most charitably described as a single-lane goat track (it took them days to unclog that mess). People were leaving the safety of cyclone-rated block buildings so they could sit, completely exposed to the ocean, in their cars as they tried to get "away". Probably what incited the most fear was when the main radio station did a live cross to the Willis Is met station, just after the tsunami was scheduled to pass it by, to get a live update from the staff there as to the impact it had. There was nothing but static on the end of the line. You can imagine the hysterics that drove people into. People were running into classrooms crying and screaming, grabbing their children and running out.

When the wave reached the beach (and the waiting lines of gridlocked traffic, half a metre above the waterline), it was officially measured at something like 3cm.

So much hype, so much media-generated fear, so little facts. No one remembered that we have 10km of reef and shallow water between us and open ocean. I wanted to find out who was selling the "I survived the Cairns Tsunami" bumper stickers afterwards, but never could track them down.

Obviously the current situation in Japan is worlds apart from this, and my heart goes out to everyone affected over there - the scale of the destruction is simply unimaginable in modern society. I simply do not know how you could begin the task of recovering and rebuilding.

Also, I'm with Darren. The survivalist movement (and it's members) scares the living daylights out of me. By the sounds of Bill's post, I think I'll be heading down his way and camping out with him - sounds like they've got it sorted!

Thanks!
Matto

[DANBRI]

That's the biggest issue - the mass coconuts panicking.

In Brisbane, the day of the flooding (Tuesday from memory) I went to the shops around lunch time to get beer and bread as I figured the waters were going to hang around for a while and I wanted some toast  but the supermarkets were gutted! People pannicking, torches, batteries, flour, milk, bread etc. all gone, shelves emptied!

That is my real concern, facing the elements is the easy one, defending water and food from panicking coconuts is the battle. 

[darren]

That's the biggest issue - the mass coconuts panicking.

In Brisbane, the day of the flooding (Tuesday from memory) I went to the shops around lunch time to get beer and bread as I figured the waters were going to hang around for a while and I wanted some toast  but the supermarkets were gutted! People pannicking, torches, batteries, flour, milk, bread etc. all gone, shelves emptied!

That is my real concern, facing the elements is the easy one, defending water and food from panicking coconuts is the battle. 

I didn’t realise there was such a high population of Polynesians in Brisbane

[Matto]

That's the biggest issue - the mass coconuts panicking.

Couldn't have said it better myself Danbri.

Same thing happened here with Yasi. The supermarkets were stripped, but the servo shops were still quite well stocked with tinned food, noodles, bottled water, all the essential disaster/long life products. No-one had cottoned on to that yet. But the lines for petrol were hours-long all over the city. I know, we were waiting in one   . The woman in her mercedes roadster in line in front of us waited the same 45mins as we did, just so she could put $4.20 worth of fuel in her tank, to top it up. Someone must have told her that in a cyclone, you needed to ensure that you had a full tank of petrol, so that's what she was doing.  

As for beer, well, let's just say that they had to have police out on the road in front of Dan Murphy's, directing traffic. I declined to go anywhere near that train-wreck of humanity, instead preferring to go around to a mate's place and drink his beer instead. Seemed like a good idea at the time.

I'm told that the aftermath of the floods in Brisbane bought out some of the best in people as well, with neighbours and just complete strangers pitching in to help clear streets and clean houses. It's amazing how you can get such polar opposites of attitudes in such close proximity to each other.

Ahhh well - good times!
Matto

[rosgeog]

Have a good grounding in outdoor living and the bows I own are very effective. The CT is pretty well ready to go most of the time. The only thing being if we are ever threatened by a tsunami then the rest of the country is already gone. That's what comes from living in the Centre.

[austastar]

Hi,
   about 700m from the Derwent estuary at 30m elevation, should be safe with a deep water shore line and steep banks. Probably enough food in the house at any time to last 2 weeks, fire wood stacked for months, could run the house on 12V and inverter for heater circulating pump and camper fridge. Solar/Batteries, torches, gas stoves, coleman stove/light would last for a month or two.
Would need mains water, but could survive on local creeks if it rains.
I imagine things would start to degrade seriously after about a month.
Would need computer access and power to draw money from the bank account, and need finance to be working to get money into the account or we would have no cash after a week or so.
Not having an old fashioned bank book could be a disadvantage in trying to establish your credit if all the 'puters stop working.
Wouldn't need fuel to get into town, still have the deadly treadley to ride if I had to.
Not a nice thought though.
 It is a bit of a wake up to see some of the survivors in the shelters sitting on a blanket with the only possessions they have left.
Not belittling NZ, Qld or other affected Australian areas recently, but it does seem to have been a deeper impact on the Japanese society to the point where you wonder if they will recover.
cheers

[Beachman]

It all depends on how much warning we got. With lots of warning anything is possible, but that’s not always the case.

But with Earthquakes & Tsunami’s like what happened to Japan we would all be unprepared and would all struggle. If a MAJOR event happened, odds are either your house is damaged which increases the chances of your car/trailer also being damaged or totally destroyed. So if your house is destroyed then access to your warm cloths, hunting, fishing, gardening, tents, food, water etc are all be gone. So all you have is the cloths on your back.

So even if you were lucky enough to have a drivable car/trailer, then the roads would either be torn apart and non existent so you might not be able to even drive anywhere.

So even if you survived the initial disaster, days or weeks after would be bedlam with law and order breaking down and everyone going into survival mode and eventually turning into survival of the fittest.

[craigtempo]

i can hunt and fish cause Ive been watching bear grills .........

the problem i have is living at stockton NSW a tsunami would simply go over the top of this low lying point but if we were to get out it would be straight up to barington tops .

Craig

[fishfinder]

I would hang around and help there are helpless kids with no surviving skills that would not have a chance in the world we live in now so this good Samaritan will do his best to make sure the children get a second go

[Hairs]

i can hunt and fish cause Ive been watching bear grills ........

Craig

God I hope you haven't learnt to eat like him as well.

[Bushman]

WELL I'M SCREWED I LIVE IN SYDNEY,

In peak hour one would need more than an hour to travel 25km,

I would be far better off occy strapping an esky to the Mal and ride the wave to safety

But at least your closer to the big hills to get you up high'n dry.

[Jon]

All the punks and lowlife scum will come crawling out of the woodwork once law and order breaks down...

I've heard we taste like pork.
 I do like pork....
Perhaps lawyers and politicians. Punks and lowlife are invariably skinny and quite tough on the plate.

I just hopre this disaster does not ruin the latest Hunter region vintages, how uncouth.

[tinkera]

HI ALL I was thinking more along the lines of George Orwells  ANIMAL Farm would be the likely outcome for the survivers in this survival camp.On other note wife has become proactive with all this when we beach camp this weekend she wants me to put the CT high on a dune instead of on the flat level ground.For those who have camped at Teewah Beach you,ll know why I said your got to be kidding.TINKERA.

[Jon]

HI ALL I was thinking more along the lines of George Orwells  ANIMAL Farm would be the likely outcome

Oh no, does that mean Winnebago drivers will be our new masters?

[darren]

HI ALL I was thinking more along the lines of George Orwells  ANIMAL Farm would be the likely outcome for the survivers in this survival camp.On other note wife has become proactive with all this when we beach camp this weekend she wants me to put the CT high on a dune instead of on the flat level ground.For those who have camped at Teewah Beach you,ll know why I said your got to be kidding.TINKERA.

We will have a revolution and turn to communism

[Jon]

We will have a revolution and turn to communism

As long as we are all equal.