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Re: Now bullbars under threat - survey
« Reply #25 on: January 05, 2011, 07:32:42 PM »
I will tell the Government to go get stuffed.....I will ring one of the big talk back radio shows and put my point of view forward. And my main point will be, will  the Gov be game to tell all the manufactures of all these products  we are closing you up!!!! I do not think so, imagine the Gov saying to Toyota that you will not be able to fit Bull Bars to any of your 4WDs, the biggest car manufacture in the world has a lot more clout then Julia Gillard  ;D
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Re: Now bullbars under threat - survey
« Reply #26 on: January 05, 2011, 07:45:04 PM »
Quote from: D4D on January 05, 2011, 04:24:57 PM
I found it on the front page of the ARB web site
D4D, I can't see anything there apart from the survey - so far I have not been able to find any evidence about WHAT is proposed or what the PROCESS to institute change is.
Where is ARB's EVIDENCE / basis for claiming that this is occurring?  ???

So far, on the evidence, this could be another of those "THEY have banned celebrating Easter / Christmas in schools / kindergartens" things.
Would be good if ARB would at least post an article which indicates their basis for this claim.  (A bit like "without pics it never happened", but with words, not pics, providing the specifics.)

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Re: Now bullbars under threat - survey
« Reply #27 on: January 05, 2011, 07:56:30 PM »
Quote from: Eski on January 05, 2011, 03:18:37 PM
I see this as a funny thing. 

If pedestrians stopped jumping in front of Road Users and cars stopped pulling out in front of Road Users there wouldn't be a problem.

Just remember they still walk/pull out in front of Day-glow Orange 2 KM long Trains....  Will they ban Trains next?

Will they ban Trains next?

Hopefully... They are noisy, long and don't look very good.. Ban them to I say.... ;D ;D ;D.

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Re: Now bullbars under threat - survey
« Reply #28 on: January 05, 2011, 08:06:09 PM »
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Re: Now bullbars under threat - survey
« Reply #29 on: January 05, 2011, 08:13:02 PM »
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Re: Now bullbars under threat - survey
« Reply #30 on: January 05, 2011, 08:23:35 PM »
everybody can drive lumps of iron...oh sorry, meant to say Hummers ;D
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Re: Now bullbars under threat - survey
« Reply #31 on: January 05, 2011, 08:50:46 PM »
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Re: Now bullbars under threat - survey
« Reply #32 on: January 05, 2011, 08:55:35 PM »
I have just sent the 4wd council an email requesting that they fix the survey to accept NT postcodes and suggested that whoever set it up should think beyond the eastern states

NT is a part of Oz and 0870 is a valid postcode! 8)
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Re: Now bullbars under threat - survey
« Reply #33 on: January 05, 2011, 09:11:19 PM »
Done.  And if a buy back eventuated (can't see it happening) it would probably be like the gun buy back - they tell you what you'll get and it won't be much.

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Re: Now bullbars under threat - survey
« Reply #34 on: January 05, 2011, 09:42:20 PM »
 :D On the newer European trucks they've had to do a lot with the FUPS (front underrun protection Sys), a lot of the local bar manufacturer's are now not registered to make bars for these models.... however some have passed the hurdles for some trucks like Volvos but I don't know about the Scanias.... but I have know doubt they will be available, animal strikes make a mess of fibreglass.

So, I reckon if they can do it for trucks, and they have this extra garbage, (how many cars get under a decent bullbar  :o ::) ) IMHO it will achieved in spite of the govt....
About to do survey, RFDS can use the funds
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Re: Now bullbars under threat - survey
« Reply #35 on: January 05, 2011, 09:48:14 PM »
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Re: Now bullbars under threat - survey
« Reply #36 on: January 06, 2011, 06:22:11 AM »
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Re: Now bullbars under threat - survey
« Reply #37 on: January 06, 2011, 06:25:48 AM »
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Re: Now bullbars under threat - survey
« Reply #38 on: January 06, 2011, 07:50:20 AM »
Another one done.

Just more distraction from the "Gummints" real problems (they have caused) - I wish they would just get on and do something useful for ONCE !

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Re: Now bullbars under threat - survey
« Reply #39 on: January 06, 2011, 09:15:16 AM »
Survey done.

Draggin, you could be right about the pollies using it as a welcome distraction but I suspect it was instigated by anti-4WD lobby groups.  The Pedestrian Council of Australia, for instance, has been trying for years to restrict or ban 4x4's >:(
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Re: Now bullbars under threat - survey
« Reply #40 on: January 06, 2011, 10:20:49 AM »
What is actually being done? (Enquiry / draft legislation prepared?)
Who is doing it? (Which government department?)
What evidence is there for any of this? (On what facts is the banner on the ARB web site based?)

I have completed the survey, as I think it will provide valuable data however, there has been no evidence produced to either substantiate that anything is proposed or to enable us to argue against the detail.

I have been around far too long to believe any of the 'teasers' on magazine covers, as they are usually written to suck the gullible in to buy the mag.  Probably more so in the case of 4x4 pages - as they need to get you to go to the newsagents first!

On some forums threads are declared 'dead' as soon as Hitler / Nazis are mentioned.   I recon the 4X4 equivalent is blaming the Pedestrian Council of Australia - was wondering how long that would take...
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Re: Now bullbars under threat - survey
« Reply #41 on: January 06, 2011, 06:39:21 PM »
Have done the survey, few questions that seem a little one sided if they are trying to collect a good cross section of data.  Don't want to see their input disregarded because of poor data.  Have also put a link to the survey onto our 4wd club site and a few people have done it already.  Hopefully the RFDS get some good from it no matter the outcome of any gov't decisions regarding bullbars on new vehicles.
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Re: Now bullbars under threat - survey
« Reply #42 on: January 06, 2011, 09:44:21 PM »
thanks for the heads up.

Survey now done.
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Re: Now bullbars under threat - survey
« Reply #43 on: January 06, 2011, 11:31:44 PM »
Have a look at your local SES / RFS / CFA / CFS / VRA etc vehicles. Imagine having to mount the warning equipment (lights sirens etc) without a bullbar - almost impossible I should know that how I made a living for a number of years...

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Re: Now bullbars under threat - survey
« Reply #44 on: January 07, 2011, 09:48:07 AM »
Another one done  >:D

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Re: Now bullbars under threat - survey
« Reply #45 on: January 07, 2011, 11:06:26 AM »
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Re: Now bullbars under threat - survey
« Reply #46 on: January 08, 2011, 02:03:44 AM »
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Re: Now bullbars under threat - survey
« Reply #47 on: January 08, 2011, 09:30:03 AM »
Interesting series of questions.

A pedestrian orientated one would be interesting.

How often do you use the footpath?
How often do you jaywalk?
Do bullbars scare you?
What sort of damage do you think one would do to you if you were hit by one?
Do you think you would jaywalk again after answering the previous question?
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Re: Now bullbars under threat - survey
« Reply #48 on: January 08, 2011, 09:32:40 AM »
Quote from: Snow on January 08, 2011, 09:30:03 AM
Interesting series of questions.

A pedestrian orientated one would be interesting.

How often do you use the footpath?
How often do you jaywalk?
Do bullbars scare you?
What sort of damage do you think one would do to you if you were hit by one?
Do you think you would jaywalk again after answering the previous question?
Duh!


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Re: Now bullbars under threat - survey
« Reply #49 on: January 08, 2011, 11:14:22 AM »
Quote from: barry1956 on January 06, 2011, 10:20:49 AM
What is actually being done? (Enquiry / draft legislation prepared?)
Who is doing it? (Which government department?)
What evidence is there for any of this? (On what facts is the banner on the ARB web site based?)

I have completed the survey, as I think it will provide valuable data however, there has been no evidence produced to either substantiate that anything is proposed or to enable us to argue against the detail.

I have been around far too long to believe any of the 'teasers' on magazine covers, as they are usually written to suck the gullible in to buy the mag.  Probably more so in the case of 4x4 pages - as they need to get you to go to the newsagents first!

On some forums threads are declared 'dead' as soon as Hitler / Nazis are mentioned.   I recon the 4X4 equivalent is blaming the Pedestrian Council of Australia - was wondering how long that would take...

Now barry come on.  Independent thought is not allowed.  Just fill in the survey ticking the boxes that will conform with the masses.   ;D



And yes darren that is a handgrenade - perhaps others will think past what they are spoon fed
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