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Ebay Hoax ? (Bushtracker)
« on: December 27, 2014, 02:32:01 PM »
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Re: Ebay Hoax ? (Bushtracker)
« Reply #1 on: December 27, 2014, 03:10:18 PM »
you need to ask??? lol...
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Re: Ebay Hoax ? (Bushtracker)
« Reply #2 on: December 27, 2014, 03:12:41 PM »
May be a typo.

I sent them this by ebay mail;

Hi.  What is the registration number and vin number please.  Also if I were to purchase can I transfer the funds at the bank in wagga with you in person at purchase time.
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Re: Ebay Hoax ? (Bushtracker)
« Reply #3 on: December 27, 2014, 05:33:37 PM »
If anyone is fair dinkum I'm in wagga and can go have a sticky beak on your behalf.
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Re: Ebay Hoax ? (Bushtracker)
« Reply #4 on: December 27, 2014, 05:47:02 PM »
Quote from: chappo555 on December 27, 2014, 05:33:37 PM
If anyone is fair dinkum I'm in wagga and can go have a sticky beak on your behalf.


Shit, I'd sell my camper for that! 
There has to be a catch or a serious problem.
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Re: Ebay Hoax ? (Bushtracker)
« Reply #5 on: December 27, 2014, 06:03:27 PM »
Zero feedback. Only joined ebay on the 17th. Those photos were not taken in wagga. Smelling fishy
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Re: Ebay Hoax ? (Bushtracker)
« Reply #6 on: December 27, 2014, 06:26:42 PM »
Actually it was too obvious but hadn't seen one with a Bushtracker before and therefore had to ask.  There is another one out there for a new Lotus type too.

Even at $25K I wouldn't buy a Bushtracker
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Re: Ebay Hoax ? (Bushtracker)
« Reply #7 on: December 27, 2014, 07:08:52 PM »
The seller also has a Hyundai car for  sale but pic shows [I think] QLD rego plates
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Re: Ebay Hoax ? (Bushtracker)
« Reply #8 on: December 27, 2014, 07:56:04 PM »
Quote from: Bird on December 27, 2014, 03:10:18 PM
you need to ask??? lol...
Yeah guys. Do you really need to ask :D
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Re: Ebay Hoax ? (Bushtracker)
« Reply #9 on: December 28, 2014, 11:04:57 AM »
What appears to be the same van is for sale here...  http://www.tradervs.com.au/detail/rv-towing/caravans/bushtracker/20-ft/245131  for $119,990.00 and located at Avoca Beach.

Looks like the fleabayer has lifted some pics and the description from other listings and 'gone fishing'.
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Re: Ebay Hoax ? (Bushtracker)
« Reply #10 on: December 28, 2014, 11:38:38 AM »
The ad that the scammer got the photos from are on the Bushtracker forum and the correct price is $119,500.    Kevin
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Re: Ebay Hoax ? (Bushtracker)
« Reply #11 on: December 28, 2014, 01:17:10 PM »
I must be missing something here???????

Why would a scammer lift pictures off someone else's add and advertise for $25,500. OK I know the price is ridiculous but who in there right mind would pay a cent to someone without viewing the caravan in the first place?

Surely the scam is up when you asked to look at the caravan and the scammer can't produce it?

Am I missing something here or are some people that stupid ?

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Re: Ebay Hoax ? (Bushtracker)
« Reply #12 on: December 28, 2014, 03:31:41 PM »
Quote from: Paul Mac on December 28, 2014, 01:17:10 PM
I must be missing something here???????

Why would a scammer lift pictures off someone else's add and advertise for $25,500. OK I know the price is ridiculous but who in there right mind would pay a cent to someone without viewing the caravan in the first place?

Surely the scam is up when you asked to look at the caravan and the scammer can't produce it?

Am I missing something here or are some people that stupid ?

Cheers

I wonder if this type of scammer gets emails from the guy on the oil rig?

As for whether people are that stupid ... Well the Nigerians haven't given up yet. Only takes one.
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Re: Ebay Hoax ? (Bushtracker)
« Reply #13 on: December 28, 2014, 03:40:25 PM »
SOLD.

I just brought it. I wasn't happy with the price though. So he dropped 5,000. OFF. he was in a hurry. His father or mother, or was it his goat need medical help.

I just paid over the net to some far away country.  By a river I think he said.

Very happy customer.  I just have to go pick it up.
Can anyone help here as I live in darwin. 

 
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Re: Ebay Hoax ? (Bushtracker)
« Reply #14 on: December 28, 2014, 04:39:05 PM »
Quote from: Paul Mac on December 28, 2014, 01:17:10 PM
I must be missing something here???????

Why would a scammer lift pictures off someone else's add and advertise for $25,500. OK I know the price is ridiculous but who in there right mind would pay a cent to someone without viewing the caravan in the first place?

Surely the scam is up when you asked to look at the caravan and the scammer can't produce it?

Am I missing something here or are some people that stupid ?

Cheers

They are out there.  I know a couple that paid over $10,000 for a caravan - without seeing it.  It didn't exist. 
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Re: Ebay Hoax ? (Bushtracker)
« Reply #15 on: December 28, 2014, 09:43:06 PM »
Quote from: Homerj on December 28, 2014, 04:39:05 PM
They are out there.  I know a couple that paid over $10,000 for a caravan - without seeing it.  It didn't exist.

Yep.  Humans are greedy.  Its why we rule the world.
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Re: Ebay Hoax ? (Bushtracker)
« Reply #16 on: December 29, 2014, 10:52:37 AM »
I had a quick look on fleabay and found another one.

Retreat Brampton Off Road 2013 Caravan 21ft

On eBay @ $17,500.00

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Retreat-Brampton-Off-Road-2013-Caravan-21ft/261697827771?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20140106155344%26meid%3D1fdd2086e36c4c6d8452c0e64b6788cc%26pid%3D100005%26prg%3D20140106155344%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D6%26mehot%3Dpp%26sd%3D271717855081&rt=nc

And a WA dealer's ad @ $75,990.00

http://www.quicksales.com.au/ad/2013-retreat-brampton-off-road/itemid-1000433161

And the 2013 Lotus Off Limits Caravan 21.6ft @ $21,500.00

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/2013-Lotus-Off-Limits-Caravan-21-6ft/161515474011?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20140106155344%26meid%3D1fdd2086e36c4c6d8452c0e64b6788cc%26pid%3D100005%26prg%3D20140106155344%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D6%26mehot%3Dpp%26sd%3D271717855081&rt=nc

About $50K under the normal ask.

If you look at the Lotus listing, in the 'People who viewed this item also viewed' section you will see links to the Bushtracker and the Retreat Brampton listings.

The usual rule of thumb applies here. If it looks too good to be true, in 99.99% of cases, it is.

I guess these thieves are hoping that some not so smart punter will send them twenty odd thousand big ones for a camper that is too good a bargain to miss out on. Or it may be something like "Sorry, my family is missing in the cyclone in Malaysia and I have to leave the country immediately. The camper is in storage but I have arranged with a carrier to deliver it anywhere in Australia for a flat rate of $850.00. Please wire $850.00 to this address and on receipt of your funds the camper will be delivered to your door. If you don't like the camper the carrier will return it to my storage facility. If the camper meets your requirements please remit the total funds immediately and the carrier will complete the delivery."

Of course there is no carrier, no storage facility, and no camper in the con artist's possession, but the gullible and greedy will fork out the $850.00 in the hope of getting a 'miracle buy'.

There were some scammers operating on eBay last year offering high end cameras and lens, sound gear and musical instruments. They were even more insidious as they hacked genuine sellers eBay accounts with good feedback ratings and used the sellers listing page with appropriate changes to suit the particular scam.

In ALL instances they asked for payment by Wire Transfer.
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Re: Ebay Hoax ? (Bushtracker)
« Reply #17 on: December 29, 2014, 01:58:27 PM »
Quote from: Paul Mac on December 28, 2014, 01:17:10 PM
I must be missing something here???????

Why would a scammer lift pictures off someone else's add and advertise for $25,500. OK I know the price is ridiculous but who in there right mind would pay a cent to someone without viewing the caravan in the first place?

Surely the scam is up when you asked to look at the caravan and the scammer can't produce it?

Am I missing something here or are some people that stupid ?

Cheers

I worked with a bloke who got scammed this way over a hilux for 6 grand, he showed me the ad and I told him it should be $15 000 for a car like that and it sounds dodgy as, he ended up  sending the $6000 (by western union) without even seeing it coz he was afraid he would miss out. Bye bye cash and to make it worse he got a cash advance off his credit card to pay for it. It only takes one moron out there for these scams to pay off.
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Re: Ebay Hoax ? (Bushtracker)
« Reply #18 on: December 29, 2014, 07:28:50 PM »
The scamers prey on a particular personality type...

THE GREEDY WHO ARE GULLIBLE...

Eg: If you happen to be a self-centred; greedy pig - but have wisdom and a good IQ - then you may not find yourself ripped off.

In the same way - if you're a bit of a gullible (read simpleton) type - but are generally honest and conservatively manage your money - then you wont get yourself ripped off either...   

BUT - generally; if you are the type who is a greedy little piggy AND who is dumper than dirt - THEN BINGO - you are a mark for the cons...

They seek the gullible: (geez... what could possibly go wrong with this deal) whom are Greedy - (I'll just sneak away with that boiled lolly from the blind person's bag... "I am so smart and cleaver"   



Quote from: Streetkid on December 29, 2014, 01:58:27 PM
I worked with a bloke who got scammed this way over a hilux for 6 grand, he showed me the ad and I told him it should be $15 000 for a car like that and it sounds dodgy as, he ended up  sending the $6000 (by western union) without even seeing it coz he was afraid he would miss out. Bye bye cash and to make it worse he got a cash advance off his credit card to pay for it. It only takes one moron out there for these scams to pay off.
« Last Edit: December 29, 2014, 07:31:05 PM by BaseCamp »
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