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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: Beachman on March 01, 2017, 02:01:39 PM
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The other weekend myself and my Brother went to Wellington Point for a late lunch, but seeing it was busy the only spots left were ones allocated to cars with trailers as there is a boat ramp in the same park.
As a boatie myself I know how annoying it can be driving to the ramp only to find single cars have taken all the trailer parks. But the afternoon in question it was blowing 25+ knots with a storm brewing, so out of the 30 dedicated trailer parks there was only 1 car/trailer parked.
So my Brother and I double parked in the same spot (trying to do the right thing) only to find upon our return we both got fined $87.
Yes we both knew we weren’t supposed to park there and if it was a fine/calm day we wouldn’t have, but it appears the council don’t take common sense into account and realise with the strong winds/storm brewing boaties wouldn’t be going out that afternoon.
I know we won’t win the common sense approach considering the weather conditions on the day, but I find it incredibly tough both being fined $87 as if anything we should have been fined half each?? My belief is they should fine per parking bay and not per car?
Just wondering if anyone else has ever been caught in the same situation?
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but it appears the council don’t take common sense into account
really (http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd234/cremo1/Smileys/flip2_zpsd2680146.gif)
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Just a rumour I once heard, but apparently it's about the money..... ???
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Just good O'l Ranger Smith filling his quota on a slow day is all .. ;D
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The local fishos battled for years to get those few boat parks policed by council. Good to know it is working. Now all we have to do is get the knobs out of the Bunnings trailer parks.
I cannot understand the mentality of a person who parks in a trailer spot (even in bad weather) and then bitches when they cop a fine.
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What if the weather was forecasted to change and improve within the hour and there was a mass arrival of boaties wanting to park? It's likely that what one person may think is bad weather for boating, may not be for another...
If the rules for when a carpark can and can't be used are left up to individual interpretation you could only expect it to end in tears.
Just saying....
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Yeah, i agree, if the place is nearly full of boats, but not when its blowing 25+ and only one spot filled.
A bit of common sense has to prevail.
Its like a pushbike thread already. ;D
Trust me, as a boatie, if its blowing 25 +, it won't be boating weather in an hour..... its called a swell.
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Pop corn .....MB...... >:D >:D
Cheers Tracker.
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It's called the Redland City Criminals oops Council. It has zero to do with protecting the best interests of Redlands rate payers. The really sad part is that the fee from those 2 fines wont even pay the wages and overheads of all of the employees involved in enforcing and collecting those fines. Idiot public service red tape gone mad.
I would actually contest this myself. It's time we Redlands people told the local council to pull their collective heads in. It's like when they introduced dumping fees for a while - all that happened is road side dumping went up massively. Remove the fee - oh golly gosh no waste on kerbs. Who would have thought?? lol
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It's like when they introduced dumping fees for a while - all that happened is road side dumping went up massively. Remove the fee - oh golly gosh no waste on kerbs. Who would have thought?? lol
our council closed our tip.... then like your council, cried when there was Shit dumped everywhere... there is no logic to councils.
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The local fishos battled for years to get those few boat parks policed by council. Good to know it is working. Now all we have to do is get the knobs out of the Bunnings trailer parks.
I cannot understand the mentality of a person who parks in a trailer spot (even in bad weather) and then bitches when they cop a fine.
I was one of those fishos, great reply thanks GBC :cheers:
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our council closed our tip.... then like your council, cried when there was Shit dumped everywhere... there is no logic to councils.
Off topic, but I utterly share your contempt for Hird now. Can you guess who this is? (Tip: former nemesis who doesn't like Carlton and is a died in the wool Bomber man)
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Off topic, but I utterly share your contempt for Hird now. Can you guess who this is? (Tip: former nemesis who doesn't like Carlton and is a died in the wool Bomber man)
I know who ya is.. :P
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I think beachman used reasonable logic...given it was after 12pm you don't see many launching boats.
I have double parked with others using the same logic once many years ago.....didn't get fined.
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Stop winging, >:( simple solution. put a boat trailer behind your car 8) I went to the trouble and expense to buy a trailer and register it to carry my KAYAK ffs to legally park in those sort of car parks.
The law is black and white, not logical, you parked illegally, you got booked, suck it up princess
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Unless of course they're launching with the tides. Nah, I agree with the guy who booked the culprits. 2 illegal parking acts, two fines....
As Orlov would say... simples
And don't even get me started on the F#$%tards who like to park their cars in the trailer turning area, while they have a little picnic.
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The law is black and white, not logical, you parked illegally, you got booked, suck it up princess
Carefull mate, you will upset some sensitive souls ;D
KB
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Redlands is on the boat parks like a rash.
must be a huge source of income to the council as they police it around the clock at all the boat areas, its a gold mine for those catching ferries to the islands and running a fraction late, oh grab that park or miss the ferry.
I have been caught twice in 12 years at Cleveland harbor heading to Straddie (travelled daily for work) I know its wrong and take my chance, but 90% of the time you will get booked.
must be a great feeling for the tourists to have the great end of the holiday to Coochie or Straddie, or even the day trippers having fish and chips at Wello and the Island, ruined by a ticket on the vehicle when you return. great tourism we have here in the Redlands, really positive- and wonder why no one comes here.
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Redlands is on the boat parks like a rash.
must be a huge source of income to the council as they police it around the clock at all the boat areas, its a gold mine for those catching ferries to the islands and running a fraction late, oh grab that park or miss the ferry.
I have been caught twice in 12 years at Cleveland harbor heading to Straddie (travelled daily for work) I know its wrong and take my chance, but 90% of the time you will get booked.
must be a great feeling for the tourists to have the great end of the holiday to Coochie or Straddie, or even the day trippers having fish and chips at Wello and the Island, ruined by a ticket on the vehicle when you return. great tourism we have here in the Redlands, really positive- and wonder why no one comes here.
Selwyn you survey clown!!
ND
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Carefull mate, you will upset some sensitive souls ;D
KB
Sorry :'( :'( I'll go to the naughty corner now :angel:
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Hope NSW councils catch on. Sorry for the OP who applied commonsence but Brooklyn boat ramp parking lot is always 1/2 full of RVs caravans and wicked campers!
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What's this parking problem you lot are on about...there's plenty of parking at the marina I go to, even a security guard that does the rounds day and night keeping an eye on things 8) ;D
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Selwyn you survey clown!!
ND
I might be a clown but was smart enough to leave that survey stuff alone a few years ago :cheers:
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Carefull mate, you will upset some sensitive souls ;D
KB
Exactly, if I follow the op's logic I should be able to park in a disabled spot if it's too windy/ raining/hot/cold or whatever. How about parking in a bus zone when there's no buses?
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Exactly, if I follow the op's logic I should be able to park in a disabled spot if it's too windy/ raining/hot/cold or whatever......
Many do....
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Had the same happen to me except on returning to the car I had a $40 ticket from the police and yep right on top of it was a $160 fine from council for exactly the same infringement.
Council ticket was issued 40mins after police! When I questioned the different amounts I was given some bullShit about it being a public holiday.
Didn't pay either and haven't heard anything since. That was a few years ago.
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Remember that common sense is not common anymore. The sign says no parking so there is no parking sorry.
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Remember that common sense is not common anymore. The sign says no parking so there is no parking sorry.
Very true..
But....
Ask yourself how stringently you follow rules and if you ever ignore them circumstantially. ie Have you ever rolled through a stop sign/broken speed limits at 3am/turned right out of a car park that says no right turn etc all when there is nobody within sight?
Doing these things is breaking a council by law or main roads rule, but none of them are hurting mankind as a whole. Yes we are not empowered to make our own decisions with regard to the law, but that's exactly what each of us has to do every day of our lives : make decisions on how we live.
Its too easy to take the high moral ground on issues like this yet I would bet my house we all "bend" rules and selectively follow them to our own advantage on a daily basis. How many of us really scrutinise our recycling waste properly? etc etc..
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More of the same,a lot of people seem to think that it's ok to break the law if it suits them and then justify the fact. Yes I did it but it's ok because '!!!!!!!!!!!
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YEah...I think you have got to just cop that one on the chin Beachman. :cheers:
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I never said I don't do anything wrong. But if it says no parking you can't crack up that you got caught. Just like if you roll through a stop sign. If you do the crime you do the time.
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Very true..
But....
Ask yourself how stringently you follow rules and if you ever ignore them circumstantially. ie Have you ever rolled through a stop sign/broken speed limits at 3am/turned right out of a car park that says no right turn etc all when there is nobody within sight?
Doing these things is breaking a council by law or main roads rule, but none of them are hurting mankind as a whole. Yes we are not empowered to make our own decisions with regard to the law, but that's exactly what each of us has to do every day of our lives : make decisions on how we live.
Its too easy to take the high moral ground on issues like this yet I would bet my house we all "bend" rules and selectively follow them to our own advantage on a daily basis. How many of us really scrutinise our recycling waste properly? etc etc..
Agree 100%, but if you get fined don't complain about it or try and justify it haha!!!!!
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Ask yourself how stringently you follow rules and if you ever ignore them circumstantially. ie Have you ever rolled through a stop sign/broken speed limits at 3am/turned right out of a car park that says no right turn etc all when there is nobody within sight?
I'm sure we've all knowingly broken the law hoping to get away with it. But on those odd occasions you do get caught you can hardly claim it happened because of your naivety!
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I think trying to apply logic in these situations is fraught with danger. I feel for the O.P. but as Nomad said I think you are just going to have to cop it on the chin.
It's a bit like getting a parking ticket for over staying in a council multi storey car park that is devoid of cars. Sure the council enforce parking restrictions so everyone gets a fair go but if the car park is empty then should that matter and therefore should they enforce their rules?
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Exactly, if I follow the op's logic I should be able to park in a disabled spot if it's too windy/ raining/hot/cold or whatever. How about parking in a bus zone when there's no buses?
My mrs used to be notorious for parking in non-authorised parking spots, and used to give me grief if I didn't do the same... "It's only for a couple of minutes" etc.. etc...
Well that's all stopped now ;D She found out the hard way that it costs well over $400.00 (can't remember exact figure) if you park in a disabled parking spot..... "only for a couple of minutes".
Unfortunately that's what it takes to make some people do the right thing.
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Used to have a T shirt once with the saying " Its only Illegal if you get Caught " on it ;D
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My mrs used to be notorious for parking in non-authorised parking spots, and used to give me grief if I didn't do the same... "It's only for a couple of minutes" etc.. etc...
Well that's all stopped now ;D She found out the hard way that it costs well over $400.00 (can't remember exact figure) if you park in a disabled parking spot..... "only for a couple of minutes".
Unfortunately that's what it takes to make some people do the right thing.
My mrs for years would reverse out the driveway and cruise off and eventually get her seatbelt on a street or two away. Well guess what, she got nabbed, and bitched, and I laughed and laughed.