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Title: The new Mountain Trail LXV luxury off-road hybrid van
Post by: KingBilly on January 07, 2017, 02:07:01 PM
From https://www.facebook.com/mountaintrailcampers/posts/1569294513097038 (https://www.facebook.com/mountaintrailcampers/posts/1569294513097038)

"We are excited to be releasing the new Mountain Trail LXV luxury off-road hybrid van.  Some features include, full height, pure off-road, internal shower toilet and ensuite, diesel powered hot water and heater, reverse cycle air conditioning, electric awning, 95 litre refrigerator, 340 watts of solar, dual water tanks with 220 litres, grey water tank, 3 sunroofs, indoor and outdoor sound system, TV, DVD, Bluetooth connectivity, lithium batteries, Redarc battery management system, rear hitch receiver, lockable vented storage, huge internal sealed storage, queen size bed, indoor table and couch. Please contact Nick Edwards on 0418 864 864 for further information."

KB
Title: Re: The new Mountain Trail LXV luxury off-road hybrid van
Post by: KingBilly on January 07, 2017, 02:08:27 PM
And some more
Title: Re: The new Mountain Trail LXV luxury off-road hybrid van
Post by: LisaMoose on January 07, 2017, 02:31:22 PM
Wow. That's an EDX on steroids. I hate to think $$.
Title: Re: The new Mountain Trail LXV luxury off-road hybrid van
Post by: BaseCamp on January 07, 2017, 02:57:49 PM
Looks great!

But how much $$; and what's the tonnage?    Also; I can't quite make out the cabin arrangements...
ie: It looks like to me (from the wide angle photo of the bed) - that the dinette is at the end of the bed? .. and I can't see (from the pic), if there is space on either side of the bed to get in/out?

As I said - looks a nicely blinged up design - and would potentially suit the glamping market..   Looks like a great quality kitchen etc..

Looking forward to reading more about this innovative design...

 :cheers:
Title: Re: The new Mountain Trail LXV luxury off-road hybrid van
Post by: KingBilly on January 07, 2017, 03:37:28 PM
Being a true offroad van and therefore being narrow, with a queen size mattress, I am assuming there would be a narrow gap down each side of the bed which is on a raised platform to accomodate the kitchen etc underneath.  Pretty standard design across many makes.

KB
Title: Re: The new Mountain Trail LXV luxury off-road hybrid van
Post by: JCOJ on January 07, 2017, 04:12:40 PM
Interesting design - looks very tall and no window for the shower / toilet?  Looks well appointed though with having lithium batteries, a grey water tank, decent water / solar etc.

I'm guessing in the six figures or very close to it.
Title: Re: The new Mountain Trail LXV luxury off-road hybrid van
Post by: LisaMoose on January 07, 2017, 04:27:21 PM
Reckon that'd be a pretty good guess on price. Looks like there is a sunroof above where the loo/shower is rather than a window. Interesting to see figures on weight/tow ball weight etc. they have said it will be lighter than anything else in it's class. We pick up our EDX in Feb so will hopefully get a sneak peek.
Title: Re: The new Mountain Trail LXV luxury off-road hybrid van
Post by: KingBilly on January 07, 2017, 05:26:52 PM
Interesting design - looks very tall and no window for the shower / toilet?  Looks well appointed though with having lithium batteries, a grey water tank, decent water / solar etc.

I'm guessing in the six figures or very close to it.

Been reading of several issues with the most popular 3 in 1 caravan window, particulary on rough roads.  Guessing they were thinking the less potential issues the better.  I like their thinking.

Reckon $100K will be a bit low.  Hopefully not too much more.

KB
Title: Re: The new Mountain Trail LXV luxury off-road hybrid van
Post by: LisaMoose on January 07, 2017, 08:41:54 PM
$89,950 fully optioned quoted on FB by Mountain trail. I'd say that's not bad given the quality and engineering if you have that sort of cash.
Title: Re: The new Mountain Trail LXV luxury off-road hybrid van
Post by: chillipepperz on January 07, 2017, 08:51:57 PM
I'm not sure that the mono white appearance does it any favours visually. To my eye it looks very tall and appliance like.

No doubt a great design and high spec finish though.

Cheers!
Andrew
Title: Re: The new Mountain Trail LXV luxury off-road hybrid van
Post by: KingBilly on January 07, 2017, 09:03:36 PM
$89,950 fully optioned quoted on FB by Mountain trail. I'd say that's not bad given the quality and engineering if you have that sort of cash.

Wow, was expecting it to be a lot more.  Certainly keenly priced to get into the market.  Cheaper than their obvious competitors.

KB
Title: Re: The new Mountain Trail LXV luxury off-road hybrid van
Post by: alnjan on January 07, 2017, 09:53:24 PM
and I thought it was over priced compared to similar style hybrids.
Title: Re: The new Mountain Trail LXV luxury off-road hybrid van
Post by: The punter on January 08, 2017, 12:16:56 AM
Looks like a tall skinny caravan
Title: Re: The new Mountain Trail LXV luxury off-road hybrid van
Post by: Julian Kaye on January 08, 2017, 05:34:53 AM
I'm not sure that the mono white appearance does it any favours visually. To my eye it looks very tall and appliance like.

No doubt a great design and high spec finish though.

Cheers!
Andrew


     I think you're right about the appearance, looks like a Kelvinator on wheels. The full van height doesn't help, most competitors have a pop top which lowers the travel height and makes them more bush compatible, not that many will see that sort of use.
Title: Re: The new Mountain Trail LXV luxury off-road hybrid van
Post by: GeoffA on January 08, 2017, 06:14:56 AM
Looks like a tall skinny caravan
There's a reason for that.....
Title: Re: The new Mountain Trail LXV luxury off-road hybrid van
Post by: KingBilly on January 08, 2017, 07:37:43 AM
and I thought it was over priced compared to similar style hybrids.

I reckon, considering the it is fully optioned with Lithium batteries, aircon, etc, ect, for $89,990, that it would be a good $10K cheaper than a similar sized Complete Campsite and then you would still only have an external shower and toilet tent outside on the CC and probably $15K cheaper than an AOR.  Think you need to consider the options which are included.  The Lithium option normally adds $3.5K to most vans.

KB
Title: Re: The new Mountain Trail LXV luxury off-road hybrid van
Post by: oldmate on January 08, 2017, 10:38:57 AM
There's a reason for that.....
Funny about that.


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Title: Re: The new Mountain Trail LXV luxury off-road hybrid van
Post by: MarkVS on January 08, 2017, 10:55:43 AM
I reckon, considering the it is fully optioned with Lithium batteries, aircon, etc, ect, for $89,990, that it would be a good $10K cheaper than a similar sized Complete Campsite and then you would still only have an external shower and toilet tent outside on the CC and probably $15K cheaper than an AOR.  Think you need to consider the options which are included.  The Lithium option normally adds $3.5K to most vans.

KB
KB,
I think you'll find, like all of the other Hybrid makers, the initial price doesn't last long while they get interest and a few into the market place. The price then goes up reasonably quickly after a little while.

Mark
Title: Re: The new Mountain Trail LXV luxury off-road hybrid van
Post by: GBC on January 08, 2017, 11:31:39 AM
They forgot to put the 'hybrid' bit in. That is a caravan.
Title: Re: The new Mountain Trail LXV luxury off-road hybrid van
Post by: KingBilly on January 08, 2017, 12:12:41 PM
KB,
I think you'll find, like all of the other Hybrid makers, the initial price doesn't last long while they get interest and a few into the market place. The price then goes up reasonably quickly after a little while.

Mark

Wow, was expecting it to be a lot more.  Certainly keenly priced to get into the market.  Cheaper than their obvious competitors.

KB
Title: Re: The new Mountain Trail LXV luxury off-road hybrid van
Post by: elkay on January 08, 2017, 01:23:57 PM
Pop top would be another nice option as well as kitchen that can be turned sideways along the van to save space under the awning.
Missing out on that with this van.
Title: Re: The new Mountain Trail LXV luxury off-road hybrid van
Post by: GeoffA on January 08, 2017, 01:30:13 PM
.....kitchen that can be turned sideways along the van to save space under the awning.

Why do manufacturers persist with locating the kitchen in the middle of the awning area?

These units look nice enough, but too narrow and high to my eye. A bit "tippy".....

 :cheers:
Title: Re: The new Mountain Trail LXV luxury off-road hybrid van
Post by: tryagain on January 08, 2017, 03:07:15 PM
These units look nice enough, but too narrow and high to my eye. A bit "tippy".....

I dont know if it is or isnt an option but I like the idea of Bruder X's adjustable ride height for this reason, I saw a new big offroad caravan being towed up the M1 at 110km/hr yesterday and was wandering more than what looked safe to me.
Title: Re: The new Mountain Trail LXV luxury off-road hybrid van
Post by: galstonjim on January 08, 2017, 09:34:47 PM
LXV=65. Is that the target market?
Title: Re: The new Mountain Trail LXV luxury off-road hybrid van
Post by: Lobster on January 09, 2017, 09:03:57 AM
We have the Mountain Trail EDX and it is a fantastic camper and would highly recommend it to anyone.

Mountain Trail Campers is releasing a hybrid version of their campers.

It also looks a little on the high (Height) side. but has all the bells and whistles.

The hybrid looks good but at $89,950.00, is a lot to pay for a camper that in my opinion which is basically an caravan.  I know a lot of the Hybrids are expensive in this range but really? an off-road caravan is in the range of 50K. 

I don't know why they call it a hybrid when it is a caravan?


Title: Re: The new Mountain Trail LXV luxury off-road hybrid van
Post by: Lobster on January 09, 2017, 09:06:49 AM
More Pics
Title: Re: The new Mountain Trail LXV luxury off-road hybrid van
Post by: Bird on January 09, 2017, 09:07:12 AM
are they bad photos or does that thing look like its going to fall over standing still? Wouldn't wanna go over any erosion humps or get it on any sort of angle...
It just looks out of proportion - for the height V width.. very narrow, and as you say too high
Title: Re: The new Mountain Trail LXV luxury off-road hybrid van
Post by: whitey1 on January 09, 2017, 09:17:58 AM
Quote from: Lobster link=topic=50929.msg878023#msg878023 date=148391663

I don't know why they call it a hybrid when it is a caravan?
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Because they don't want to change their name to Mountain Trail Caravans!
And yes, it is a caravan. Not even a pop top so where do they get the hybrid bit from? Just because it's narrow?
Title: Re: The new Mountain Trail LXV luxury off-road hybrid van
Post by: Bird on January 09, 2017, 09:44:46 AM
Quote from: whitey1
And yes, it is a caravan. Not even a pop top so where do they get the hybrid bit from? Just because it's narrow?
Because Hybrid is the latest fad buzz word... if you don't have one your out of the game.
Title: Re: The new Mountain Trail LXV luxury off-road hybrid van
Post by: glenm64 on January 09, 2017, 10:30:23 AM
If you put a fridge and or cooker access outside it seems to now become a hybrid.
The awning sitting high on the roof is a bit more exposed rather than side mounted IMO.

Cheers Glen

Title: Re: The new Mountain Trail LXV luxury off-road hybrid van
Post by: LB on January 09, 2017, 08:21:30 PM
Why do manufacturers persist with locating the kitchen in the middle of the awning area?

These units look nice enough, but too narrow and high to my eye. A bit "tippy".....

 :cheers:

Its really hard to find a one where the kitchen is functional and has plenty of storage but still gives you decent space under the awning. From the pictures the fridge only makes it half way under the awning. Lucky for us we have only ever used the Kwik awning and walls with our Kimberley Kamper so we are not used to huge space (adequate just not huge) of my softfloor counter parts, But I would like to be able to fit a table a few chairs and not be blocking the door.

I also think a pop top is a much better option to keep the height to base down, I would certainly be concerned about tipping.

But in saying that they are personal choices, and at least you would know you would have a quality investment.
Title: Re: The new Mountain Trail LXV luxury off-road hybrid van
Post by: Hewy54 on January 09, 2017, 08:53:53 PM
As a small, off-road luxury caravan, looks great, but do not see any reason it should be classed as hybrid.
Title: Re: The new Mountain Trail LXV luxury off-road hybrid van
Post by: KingBilly on January 09, 2017, 09:07:41 PM
As a small, off-road luxury caravan, looks great, but do not see any reason it should be classed as hybrid.

Guessing a traditional caravan has an internal cooker/griller/stove, fridge, pantry, kitchen bench etc etc whereas this van has none of that.  Does that make it a hybrid?  Not sure.  Does a hybrid need a pop top to be a hybrid?  Again not sure.

Looking at the definition of a hybrid, it says "a thing made by combining two different elements" so guess it is a hybrid as it combines the shape of a van with the cooking, food storage and prep areas of a camper.

Don't really care what it is called.  Just reckon it is cool and I want one.  Just can't afford one.

KB
Title: Re: The new Mountain Trail LXV luxury off-road hybrid van
Post by: GeoffA on January 09, 2017, 09:34:22 PM
Hybrid or not, the height would be an issue on a lot of tracks/camps.

 :cheers:
Title: Re: The new Mountain Trail LXV luxury off-road hybrid van
Post by: Bird on January 09, 2017, 09:43:51 PM
Hybrid or not, the height would be an issue on a lot of tracks/camps.

 :cheers:
what as it would fall over before it got there ???
Title: Re: The new Mountain Trail LXV luxury off-road hybrid van
Post by: GeoffA on January 10, 2017, 04:52:17 AM
what as it would fall over before it got there ???
Overhanging branches...
Title: Re: The new Mountain Trail LXV luxury off-road hybrid van
Post by: lukeycat on January 10, 2017, 05:53:05 AM
Spotted this van at bright last week it's high lol I think the all white finish makes it look a bit home made, in think it's centre of gravity may make it a little tricky on the rough stuff it looks a lot taller than the other hybrid style off road vans I've seen like the complete campsite etc


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Title: Re: The new Mountain Trail LXV luxury off-road hybrid van
Post by: Merts on January 10, 2017, 06:03:46 AM
I doubt the centre of gravity would be as high as some are suggesting. The vast majority of the weight would be in the bottom third or so of the van.
Title: Re: The new Mountain Trail LXV luxury off-road hybrid van
Post by: edz on January 10, 2017, 07:25:20 AM
There is an old saying " If it looks right, It probably is right "  and to me  It dont look right . Just my opinion though . Not that it matters to the ones that are handing over their hard earned shekels  ;D