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Title: In car radio volumes?
Post by: scrapsD40 on June 01, 2016, 07:40:36 PM
This topic might be more suited to the caravanersforum, but thought I'd try here first.
Wondering if any other old buggers have same issue.

Have found in the last 3 or 4 years when listening to local radio stations, I'm forever adjusting the volume.

1-host conversations or talk back never loud enough and have to turn it up.
2-music then seems too loud and find I have to turn it down, and
3-adverts are even louder.

Now before you start, yes I have had regular hearing tests and there's nothing wrong there outside of normal age deterioration.

I am aware that stations tune the adverts to a defined frequency or resonance so that they are pitched differently to get listeners attention, but why the difference between music and talk back etc?

Title: Re: In car radio volumes?
Post by: GeoffA on June 01, 2016, 07:52:17 PM
It's the same on the telly scraps.....
Title: Re: In car radio volumes?
Post by: noel_w on June 01, 2016, 07:58:11 PM
Adverts loud = Marketing ploy to make sure old buggas can hear the ad.


Just put some acca dacca on loud and don't look back
Title: Re: In car radio volumes?
Post by: Cruiser 105Tvan on June 01, 2016, 08:01:45 PM
They are only pissing people off, instead of fostering interest in the advertised product or service.
Title: Re: In car radio volumes?
Post by: Bird on June 01, 2016, 08:20:32 PM
The Commodore auto increased volume when you hit a certain speed to compensate for the road noise.. hate it when you pull up at lights and you can hardly hear it..


EVO... NEED NEW STEREO IN COMMODORE!!!!
Title: Re: In car radio volumes?
Post by: Banjo16 on June 01, 2016, 09:24:47 PM
As long as you don't look at the display & find the volume is an odd number, if so must be changed.
I'm much better now & change the volume without looking, the shrink thinks I'm getting better.
Title: In car radio volumes?
Post by: scrapsD40 on June 01, 2016, 09:33:05 PM
As long as you don't look at the display & find the volume is an odd number, if so must be changed.
Unless it's a 5, then that's ok
Title: Re: In car radio volumes?
Post by: UIZ733 on June 01, 2016, 09:33:56 PM
A bit like a marriage?  😊
Title: Re: In car radio volumes?
Post by: evolution on June 01, 2016, 09:42:33 PM
The Commodore auto increased volume when you hit a certain speed to compensate for the road noise.. hate it when you pull up at lights and you can hardly hear it..


EVO... NEED NEW STEREO IN COMMODORE!!!!
Trust me when I say you don't want to know the price to change a ve onwards stereo. 
It has more than two zeros after the first number.

Cheers
Nick
Title: Re: In car radio volumes?
Post by: feisty on June 01, 2016, 09:43:27 PM
Made me laugh the reference to the caravaner's forum.....

However I detest advertisements. I know they a purpose but not in my world.

Luv anything ABC for that very reason..  triple j or anything that doesn't involve Frank Beaumont and his stupid tiles (Victorian reference)
Title: Re: In car radio volumes?
Post by: bobnrob on June 01, 2016, 09:44:32 PM
The Commodore auto increased volume when you hit a certain speed to compensate for the road noise.. hate it when you pull up at lights and you can hardly hear it..


EVO... NEED NEW STEREO IN COMMODORE!!!!

Minister had a SuckSuki last car, and that 'feature' could be turn off in it's settings....got the manual for yours?
But aftermarket is always an improvement over OEM anyway  ;)
Title: Re: In car radio volumes?
Post by: Shaun99 on June 01, 2016, 11:05:23 PM
Your getting OLD!

 :cheers:
Title: Re: In car radio volumes?
Post by: tracker on June 02, 2016, 05:24:29 AM
Your getting OLD!

 :cheers:

   X2
Title: Re: In car radio volumes?
Post by: Symon on June 02, 2016, 06:11:07 AM
Adverts loud = Marketing ploy to make sure old buggas can hear the ad.

Bingo.

Advertisements are deliberately louder. 
Title: Re: In car radio volumes?
Post by: JohnT on June 02, 2016, 07:07:43 AM
A few year back one of the "Current Affairs" program did some mythbusting on this very topic as a lot of people were complaining about the same thing.

In a nutshell, the volume over the radio or TV stays the say. The perceived change is volume is a trick of the ear. From memory it is because ads have music they appear louder than the spoken word.

Believe it if you will.

Title: Re: In car radio volumes?
Post by: Chappie on June 02, 2016, 07:18:56 AM
or anything that doesn't involve Frank Beaumont and his stupid tiles (Victorian reference)

Feisty, it is not just Victorians who have to put up with him, he does his adds here as well (Brisbane) Beaumont Tiiiiillllllleeeeeessssss.

Sorry, off topic but he really is annoying.

Chappie
Title: Re: In car radio volumes?
Post by: achjimmy on June 02, 2016, 07:31:19 AM
I play, Spotify, iTunes, USB or CDs anything but listen to the radio for music. They seem to think I wanna here them gab of instead of the music!
Title: Re: In car radio volumes?
Post by: Bill on June 02, 2016, 08:02:43 AM
I play, Spotify, iTunes, USB or CDs anything but listen to the radio for music. They seem to think I wanna here them gab of instead of the music!
I feel your pain sir.
Nothing annoys me more with the radio than idiots talking.
Bill
Title: Re: In car radio volumes?
Post by: jw2170 on June 02, 2016, 09:52:53 AM

I play iTunes when traveling for music, especially  when out in the country. If all they had was 'talkback' it would be turned off....


Title: Re: In car radio volumes?
Post by: slcs78 on June 02, 2016, 10:40:59 AM
The Commodore auto increased volume when you hit a certain speed to compensate for the road noise.. hate it when you pull up at lights and you can hardly hear it..


EVO... NEED NEW STEREO IN COMMODORE!!!!

Yep that used to Shit me in my ve. Turning it off was simple enough
Title: Re: In car radio volumes?
Post by: MrCruza on June 02, 2016, 10:49:34 AM
A few year back one of the "Current Affairs" program did some mythbusting on this very topic as a lot of people were complaining about the same thing.

In a nutshell, the volume over the radio or TV stays the say. The perceived change is volume is a trick of the ear. From memory it is because ads have music they appear louder than the spoken word.

Believe it if you will.

When a normal conversation is happening at normal volume the spaces between words make the volume appear at a certain level. However, whentheyplayanaddtheytalkataconstatntvolumewithnopauses... makes it APPEAR louder..
Title: Re: In car radio volumes?
Post by: Cruiser 105Tvan on June 02, 2016, 06:34:52 PM
Try using a Db sound meter next time your favourite radio station is running, and then tell me the volume doesn't increase.
It's not a trick of the mind, your free to air TV can be just as bad.
Title: Re: In car radio volumes?
Post by: greygonads on June 02, 2016, 07:56:05 PM
Pandora, that's the answer.


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Title: Re: In car radio volumes?
Post by: Bill on June 02, 2016, 08:09:19 PM
Pandora, that's the answer.


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Love my Pandora...
Bill
Title: Re: In car radio volumes?
Post by: briann532 on June 02, 2016, 08:40:40 PM
I'm sure if I was loving Pandora, my wife would shoot her then shoot me!!!!
Title: Re: In car radio volumes?
Post by: Troopy_03 on June 02, 2016, 09:23:44 PM
It's how they process the sound in advertisements that make them sound louder. They use digital processing and compression to make the add seem more 'in your face'
Here's a bit from a website: http://www.freetv.com.au/SiteMedia/w3svc087/Uploads/Documents/f2f4d93a-dad5-4cb4-aff5-5c1c213f5d1e.pdf (http://www.freetv.com.au/SiteMedia/w3svc087/Uploads/Documents/f2f4d93a-dad5-4cb4-aff5-5c1c213f5d1e.pdf)

Quote
2.1
Compression
Most advertisement sound tracks are “processed,” whereas in most cases program material is not. Non processed sound is basically that which has originated from a microphone with some minor adjustments to equalise the quality in certain respects such as matching between microphones. On the other hand, material that is processed is passed through devices such as equalisers and compressors, which are designed to enhance its presence ie to make it sound “up close” or brighter or more immediate. This is referred to as “compression”.
Material that has been compressed will sound louder, even though there is no increase in volume. This is because compression of a sound track raises the energy content of the sound by reducing the dynamic range (i.e. the difference between the peaks and the average level of the sound)thereby making it more dense.

2.2
Spectral processing
The human ear is not equally sensitive to all frequencies in the audible range. As an approximation, the frequencies between 2,000Hz and 4,000Hz are those to which the
ear is most sensitive. If this range of frequencies is boosted at the mixing desk during post production, then this version of the product will sound louder than a version where these frequencies were not boosted. This process of varying the spectral content is known as equalisation.


And I rarely bother with radio these days, 3 X 64GB USB drives keeps me going for quite a while. And even with TV I pre-record and skip through the adds anyway.
Title: In car radio volumes?
Post by: grmas1 on June 11, 2016, 09:12:15 PM
Made me laugh the reference to the caravaner's forum.....

However I detest advertisements. I know they a purpose but not in my world.

Luv anything ABC for that very reason..  triple j or anything that doesn't involve Frank Beaumont and his stupid tiles (Victorian reference)
Always crack up when I am in Vic and hear the tiles ads.


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Title: Re: In car radio volumes?
Post by: Bird on June 11, 2016, 09:14:37 PM
Always crack up when I am in Vic and hear the tiles ads.
frank walker from naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaationallllllllllllllllllll tiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiillllllllllllllleeeeeeeeeeeeesssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMC6gcWu2LM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMC6gcWu2LM)