Post by: letsgoplaces on December 01, 2015, 11:51:47 AM
What happened was she was turning off a side street onto a slightly busier road when she cut off a cyclist. It was an accident, the light was low as it was overcast this morning, he was wearing dark blue and had no light. She doesn’t go out to cause grief to cyclists… or any other road users for that matter.
Yes, she cut him off, and she realized when he swore at her and gave her the finger. She stopped and wound down her window to apologise when he leant into the window, spat in her face and rode off. She was mortified sat crying and shaking til she could drive back home for a shower.
She put something on facebook, to which a few people told her to report it. She did, and there’s not much they can do, except to advise her to go and get tested for hepatitis as her mouth was open ready to say sorry.
Hopefully he feels good enough about himself, and if his intent was to make her husband want to drive over him and his bike…. Wish granted f#*@wit. And now she has to wait for the blood test results.
The only thing I could say to make her feel a little bit better was that if he rides ‘angry’ like that, he will react to the wrong person and karma will come back on him.
Anyway, have a nice day and be wary of angry cyclists
John
Post by: MDS69 on December 01, 2015, 11:56:12 AM
Post by: Bird on December 01, 2015, 11:58:07 AM
you should look for him tomorrow with a box of thumb tacks...
Post by: DaveR on December 01, 2015, 12:10:13 PM
Post by: letsgoplaces on December 01, 2015, 12:16:33 PM
she should have chased him and really cut the **** off.... **** bike riders.
you should look for him tomorrow with a box of thumb tacks...
She was just beyond belief that people do sh!t like this. Even when she got back home, she was still massively distressed
Not nice to hear and I hope your wife gets over it relatively quickly. If I was you I would stake out that piece of road as this cyclist could be in a routine and might happen to ride this route again, then you could "apologise" on your wife's behalf.
Thanks guys, and I am a bit worried of my reaction if I did happen to work out who it was
Post by: Paul (SA) on December 01, 2015, 12:25:53 PM
We all make errors. If we had some tolerance it would make life so much easier.
Post by: letsgoplaces on December 01, 2015, 12:34:12 PM
We all make errors
Yep, and she was trying to right that error
Post by: edz on December 01, 2015, 12:34:29 PM
Post by: stabicraft on December 01, 2015, 12:36:08 PM
The pushbike rider had a stop sign, but being as most bike riders he simply drove up onto the footpath and leaping off the bike and started running to beat the car to the intersection forcing the bloke at work to slam on his brakes to avoid hitting him.
Then the trouble started, The work mate wound down his window and said that was a stupid, ignorant thing to do.
The rider threw the bike at the car and started screaming at the workmate to get out and fight him.
Now, the workmate is not small, but he is a quiet type of guy and generally hard to anger.
He opened his door, got out and quietly stated the following.
"Listen f#*kwit, If you don't move your bike and get out of my way Ill come over there and beat the bejusus out of you.
If by some miracle you manage to actually beat me instead,
I will get back in my car and chase you down and run you over.
Either way you are not going to come out on top in this incident.
Now get back on your bike and wake up to yourself.
The bike rider being the coward most Lycra clad loonies are jumped on his bike, gave the mate the finger and rode courageously off into the distance.
I blame it on the lycra, its akin to putting rubber bands on a bulls balls to make them buck more.
The lycra has the same effect, only the bull has a higher intellegence than the bikers.
Post by: Green rv on December 01, 2015, 12:43:05 PM
What a dip ship
:cheers:
Adam
Post by: The punter on December 01, 2015, 12:56:30 PM
As a regular city commute rider the amount of people driving cars that think mirrors and blind spot checks are optional is staggering.
None of that excuses this moron's behaviour though.
Post by: tk421 on December 01, 2015, 01:00:44 PM
Society is on a downward spiral
Post by: Rogerthatv2 on December 01, 2015, 01:02:48 PM
As a regular cyclist, both road and mountain types, I get real wound up by a-hole bike riders, karma will get him for sure, no doubt.
I hear you Dave, I run and ride purely for recreation, fitness and stress release - I have lately been amazed at the amount of twits on bikes giving us all a bad name - just like. 4wd's, boats, jet skis - the minority wrecks it for the majority.
I cannot believe that a grown man would do this to another person let alone a lone female - it just disgusts me and now what you all have to go through as a result.
I can understand your unwillingness to go back tomorrow to see if said scumbag rides the same route (he would but maybe every second day) as I would have a hard time not spitting back...
Hope all goes well. Cheers Dan
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Post by: briann532 on December 01, 2015, 02:43:43 PM
While I echo the sentiments of all the other comments, they won't make her feel better, which is what she needs.
Buy her some flowers, tell her you love her and that all the folk on myswag think he's scum and she deserves better.
Then help her move on so she doesn't harbour ill feelings.
Best wishes to you both,
Brian
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on December 01, 2015, 04:07:46 PM
" "
Be a lovely chance to point out the error of his ways as far as your wife is concerned.
You'll note there is a spot between the lines..... read it.
Post by: tracker on December 01, 2015, 04:23:36 PM
Cheers Tracker
Post by: muzza01 on December 01, 2015, 04:28:33 PM
Not nice to hear and I hope your wife gets over it relatively quickly. If I was you I would stake out that piece of road as this cyclist could be in a routine and might happen to ride this route again, then you could "apologise" on your wife's behalf.X2
Post by: BaseCamp on December 01, 2015, 04:42:20 PM
Its bad - like when slags hok intp wpc faces...
Another vote for dash cams
Another vote for some sort of registration plates for bikes
Shake&Bake BB
Post by: JD-120 on December 01, 2015, 04:45:11 PM
If I was you I would stake out that piece of road as this cyclist could be in a routine and might happen to ride this route again, then you could "apologise" on your wife's behalf.
X2 having done a bit of cycling myself, most routes are routine. Either go back tomorrow morning same time, or same day next week. He will be back for certain.
Post by: Darcy7 on December 01, 2015, 04:57:53 PM
No matter what the cause of the collision was or circumstances....It give this piece of crap NO reason to spit in another persons face ( bet this coward wouldn't do it to a male driver )...I personally would haunt this gutless mongrel till i found him....and thats where i'll leave it......He's lucky it wasn't my wife or the mother of my boy's
Cheers Tracker
I completely agree. Do to me what ever you like but if some grot did that to my wife, I couldn't give a Shite who he is or how tough he thinks he is, I'd be sitting at the intersection the next day waiting to give him every fibre of my being's best shots.
Doesn't matter that he rides a bike. Could walk dogs for a living for all I care.
What a f&@$tard...!
I hope your wife is ok.
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Post by: ewoksta on December 01, 2015, 05:04:40 PM
What concerns me more is the "Advice" you are getting to go back and wait for him, hunt him down etc etc. It's for these reasons that the world has gone to S*#t. Lets all take revenge for being wronged!!
Would we all not be better off if we let things slide without the horrible mentality of "lets get revenge!!" Lets say you did go back and wait for him to take revenge. You confront him (hoping its the same person to start with not some random cyclist around the same time), he got in a lucky punch, you fall and smash your head on the roadway and die!!! Where would that leave your wife??
Not taking sides either way, just the amount of anger that comes from the forum makes people just as bad as the perpetrator.
Give her lots of love, care for her and be thankful you have each other.
Post by: weeds on December 01, 2015, 05:08:19 PM
I agree it's assault and I would be floating around at the same time tomorrow morning......either way this bloke is a germ and would probably do the same thing regardless of whether he is on a bike or not.
I'm a cyclist and drive......I have made mistakes while riding and driving......human error it's life.
For the few cyclist that use the road compared to the number of cars I'm not convinced registration will do much......
It sounds like your wife did as much as she could have given the circumstances and a applaud her.....I hope she is big enough not to label all cyclist that same....not like some of the pee brained tossers that have replied to this thread.....keyboard warriors.
Post by: JCOJ on December 01, 2015, 05:09:29 PM
He should take some more responsibility and wear light clothing and have a light.
After been cleaned up by a driver that went through a red light, I have both my front and rear lights on full time - I still get near misses with inattentive drivers, but overall I know that it does make me more visible.
Mistakes are made, by both drivers and cyclists, but this behaviour is inexcusible!
Post by: vicandug on December 01, 2015, 05:32:35 PM
How one person can do that to another person sickens me.
I hope your wife is ok and I can understand how she feels. I would also want a shower and probably also vomit.
Vicki
Post by: UIZ733 on December 01, 2015, 05:33:09 PM
Post by: jetcrew on December 01, 2015, 05:50:19 PM
Not taking sides either way, just the amount of anger that comes from the forum makes people just as bad as the perpetrator.
I,m not sure that's entirely correct , there is no way even a bloody good flogging would make the person who issued it as bad as the perpetrator. if it was then no wonder why we are in the state we are as a society, the only shame here is the OP was not there to issue the justice that this grub obv needs to be taught and to return and do it now would be deemed illegal.
If you wrong someone expect a response is what I teach my kids, every man or woman has a right to protect his family and possessions maybe if more test cases got before a jury some decent precedent would be set and grubs would stop being grubs for fear of being held accountable ..dreaming I know
If you can attend the scene again and obtain any further details to assist police like maybe follow him to work or the like then charges may be able to be laid, obv you want to do something just be sure to make that something productive not counter productive like getting yourself arrested.
and remember the 5% rule
5% of cyclist are idiots
5% of drivers are idiots
5% of coppers are idiots
5% of caravaners are idiots
5% of humans are scum
5% of ..."insert anything here"
If we could just get all the 5%ers together then the other 95% of mankind could get along with life with a bit of respect and understanding.
as said spitting the face of a woman is utterly disgusting and im not sure anyone would expect that a response would not be forthcoming before your passion had time to cool if you were present.and to be honest the only way to stop someone spitting is to fill their mouth with your arm up to the elbow. If that makes me irresponsible or immature then that's fine with me as its still better than being a grub and it might stop said grub spitting at a woman again.
Turning the other cheek is why we are in the state we are as a society cause the Govt has us fooled that we should let them deal with grubs ..lex talionis all the way in my world.
I saw a cyclist dis mount unclip his shoe thingys and help an old man across a crossing the other day in Mt Gravatt when plenty of pedestrians just did nothing so remember the 5% rule .
Hope the wife feels better soon mate.
Jet ;D ;D
Post by: Rumpig on December 01, 2015, 06:06:33 PM
The fact your wife was about to apoligise shows how nice a person she is, to have this grub do that to her is just disgusting...we don't need "people" like him in society. I'd be livid if that had of happened to my wife or daughters >:( >:(
Post by: gronk on December 01, 2015, 06:07:52 PM
I cannot believe you blokes are so quick to tar all bike riders with the same brush......
I re read all the posts, and I didn't see it this way at all !!
What I read was a grub ( who just happened to be riding a bike ) who spat on another person.......and people were appalled by it and rightly or wrongly, wanted some good old justice meted out if he could be caught...
Post by: D4D on December 01, 2015, 06:21:32 PM
Another vote for some sort of registration plates for bikes
x infinity, that will reduce the anonymity and 'above than the law' attitude a lot of cyclists have.
Post by: BaseCamp on December 01, 2015, 06:33:48 PM
I only wonder if he has a mental illnesses - to lash out like that....
As I said before - its really just assault very bad...
Shake&Bake BB
Post by: Ashez on December 01, 2015, 07:00:14 PM
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Post by: macca on December 01, 2015, 07:02:54 PM
x infinity, that will reduce the anonymity and 'above than the law' attitude a lot of cyclists have.100% agree, the sooner the better
Post by: weeds on December 01, 2015, 07:22:29 PM
I re read all the posts, and I didn't see it this way at all !!
What I read was a grub ( who just happened to be riding a bike ) who spat on another person.......and people were appalled by it and rightly or wrongly, wanted some good old justice meted out if he could be caught...
Post 3 from Bird????????
Post by: Black Diamond on December 01, 2015, 07:30:36 PM
Post by: oldmate on December 01, 2015, 07:35:03 PM
Post by: scarpsD40 on December 01, 2015, 08:22:35 PM
any person that spits in another persons face, male, female, bike rider or cowbow should be sent sent on the first plane to the usa with an isis flag and cans of deodarant strapped to their body.are you assuming here that peop's that spit at others also smell bad?
Post by: discoteddy on December 01, 2015, 08:41:02 PM
I,m not sure that's entirely correct , there is no way even a bloody good flogging would make the person who issued it as bad as the perpetrator. if it was then no wonder why we are in the state we are as a society, the only shame here is the OP was not there to issue the justice that this grub obv needs to be taught and to return and do it now would be deemed illegal.
If you wrong someone expect a response is what I teach my kids, every man or woman has a right to protect his family and possessions maybe if more test cases got before a jury some decent precedent would be set and grubs would stop being grubs for fear of being held accountable ..dreaming I know
If you can attend the scene again and obtain any further details to assist police like maybe follow him to work or the like then charges may be able to be laid, obv you want to do something just be sure to make that something productive not counter productive like getting yourself arrested.
and remember the 5% rule
5% of cyclist are idiots
5% of drivers are idiots
5% of coppers are idiots
5% of caravaners are idiots
5% of humans are scum
5% of ..."insert anything here"
If we could just get all the 5%ers together then the other 95% of mankind could get along with life with a bit of respect and understanding.
as said spitting the face of a woman is utterly disgusting and im not sure anyone would expect that a response would not be forthcoming before your passion had time to cool if you were present.and to be honest the only way to stop someone spitting is to fill their mouth with your arm up to the elbow. If that makes me irresponsible or immature then that's fine with me as its still better than being a grub and it might stop said grub spitting at a woman again.
Turning the other cheek is why we are in the state we are as a society cause the Govt has us fooled that we should let them deal with grubs ..lex talionis all the way in my world.
I saw a cyclist dis mount unclip his shoe thingys and help an old man across a crossing the other day in Mt Gravatt when plenty of pedestrians just did nothing so remember the 5% rule .
Hope the wife feels better soon mate.
Jet ;D ;D
Well said Jet, and in reality the only chance at any real justice.
Mate your wife is in for several months of uncertainty, she will need all the love, support, understanding and at times patience you can muster. I have been through these tests twice as a result of similiar matters at work. Maintaining routine as much as possible and a sound circle of family/friends is crutial.
Cheers,
Disco teddy.
Post by: Patr80l on December 01, 2015, 08:52:08 PM
Some medical advice:
The risk of contracting hepatitis or other viruses from saliva is negligible.
Never the less...
Blood tests taken on the day of the incident are a waste of time and worse, give false reassurance. The test is to detect antibodies produced by the patient in response to exposure to the virus. These can take a couple of months to develop so before you can be sure nothing has been contracted you need to be tested at three months.
Post by: weeds on December 01, 2015, 08:53:52 PM
I,m not sure that's entirely correct , there is no way even a bloody good flogging would make the person who issued it as bad as the perpetrator. if it was then no wonder why we are in the state we are as a society, the only shame here is the OP was not there to issue the justice that this grub obv needs to be taught and to return and do it now would be deemed illegal.
If you wrong someone expect a response is what I teach my kids, every man or woman has a right to protect his family and possessions maybe if more test cases got before a jury some decent precedent would be set and grubs would stop being grubs for fear of being held accountable ..dreaming I know
If you can attend the scene again and obtain any further details to assist police like maybe follow him to work or the like then charges may be able to be laid, obv you want to do something just be sure to make that something productive not counter productive like getting yourself arrested.
and remember the 5% rule
5% of cyclist are idiots
5% of drivers are idiots
5% of coppers are idiots
5% of caravaners are idiots
5% of humans are scum
5% of ..."insert anything here"
If we could just get all the 5%ers together then the other 95% of mankind could get along with life with a bit of respect and understanding.
as said spitting the face of a woman is utterly disgusting and im not sure anyone would expect that a response would not be forthcoming before your passion had time to cool if you were present.and to be honest the only way to stop someone spitting is to fill their mouth with your arm up to the elbow. If that makes me irresponsible or immature then that's fine with me as its still better than being a grub and it might stop said grub spitting at a woman again.
Turning the other cheek is why we are in the state we are as a society cause the Govt has us fooled that we should let them deal with grubs ..lex talionis all the way in my world.
I saw a cyclist dis mount unclip his shoe thingys and help an old man across a crossing the other day in Mt Gravatt when plenty of pedestrians just did nothing so remember the 5% rule .
Hope the wife feels better soon mate.
Jet ;D ;D
Sadly I just checked the dashcam to see if Sunday's footage was still there.......
Sunday 12pm in Brisbane was pretty hot.......god know what the temp of the bitumen was but at a set of traffic light and old man with walk stick tripped and fell halfway across the road.......he couldn't get up and nobody from the car waiting to turn (2m in front of their cars) got out the help. It was painful watching from the other side of a very busy intersection, the bitumen must have been burning.......I was about to jump out when a guy hopped out to assist him to the centre of the road only, jumped back in his car and made the turn....if they didn't get a green turn arrow I wonder if he would have helped.......the old man hobbled off the road limping. Somebody on the footpath approached him offering help.
Post by: letsgoplaces on December 01, 2015, 09:50:37 PM
I,m not sure that's entirely correct , there is no way even a bloody good flogging would make the person who issued it as bad as the perpetrator. if it was then no wonder why we are in the state we are as a society, the only shame here is the OP was not there to issue the justice that this grub obv needs to be taught and to return and do it now would be deemed illegal.
If you wrong someone expect a response is what I teach my kids, every man or woman has a right to protect his family and possessions maybe if more test cases got before a jury some decent precedent would be set and grubs would stop being grubs for fear of being held accountable ..dreaming I know
If you can attend the scene again and obtain any further details to assist police like maybe follow him to work or the like then charges may be able to be laid, obv you want to do something just be sure to make that something productive not counter productive like getting yourself arrested.
and remember the 5% rule
5% of cyclist are idiots
5% of drivers are idiots
5% of coppers are idiots
5% of caravaners are idiots
5% of humans are scum
5% of ..."insert anything here"
If we could just get all the 5%ers together then the other 95% of mankind could get along with life with a bit of respect and understanding.
as said spitting the face of a woman is utterly disgusting and im not sure anyone would expect that a response would not be forthcoming before your passion had time to cool if you were present.and to be honest the only way to stop someone spitting is to fill their mouth with your arm up to the elbow. If that makes me irresponsible or immature then that's fine with me as its still better than being a grub and it might stop said grub spitting at a woman again.
Turning the other cheek is why we are in the state we are as a society cause the Govt has us fooled that we should let them deal with grubs ..lex talionis all the way in my world.
I saw a cyclist dis mount unclip his shoe thingys and help an old man across a crossing the other day in Mt Gravatt when plenty of pedestrians just did nothing so remember the 5% rule .
Hope the wife feels better soon mate.
Jet ;D ;D
Thanks and well said
And had it been me, or worse still if I was passenger and it still happened to her.....
The 5%'ers, the bad egg, just remember most people are better than that
I hope karma catches up with this particular guy and he gets hit by a car...i know that statement will upset some on here but i don't care, he is a deadset lowlife grub who i'd have zero sympathy for if it did happen to him. Any cyclists who feel that statement is aimed at all cyclists in general can reread my post, it is solely directed at this one person in particular.Yep, and if I heard about it, I wouldn't lose any sleep.
The fact your wife was about to apoligise shows how nice a person she is, to have this grub do that to her is just disgusting...we don't need "people" like him in society. I'd be livid if that had of happened to my wife or daughters >:( >:(
It is disgusting and they're a disgusting human being. Unfortunately they're everywhere these days. You get them riding bikes, driving cars, walking down the streets, living in your street.
Society is on a downward spiral
I'm not having a go at all cyclists, it just happened that this turd was on a bike. He would be a turd in a car as well, and also in a shopping mall, and a pub, and with a brain that size, the turd will come a cropper sooner or later. I wouldn't lose any sleep if I heard about it.
Shameful act.
Some medical advice:
The risk of contracting hepatitis or other viruses from saliva is negligible.
Never the less...
Blood tests taken on the day of the incident are a waste of time and worse, give false reassurance. The test is to detect antibodies produced by the patient in response to exposure to the virus. These can take a couple of months to develop so before you can be sure nothing has been contracted you need to be tested at three months.
Thanks, the doctor did say that a blood test today would come back negative. So she is going back in one month, and I will get her to get advice on whether a check at 3 months should be on the cards. The risk is slim, but as her mouth was open the possibility goes up. We worked on the APY Lands for a decade and before we went, were advised to get vaccinated against Hep A&B, so there is hope there as well.
Thanks to everyone for your words of support, it means alot
And as far as revenge goes, I've only ever seen red a couple of times in my life (generally I'm so laid back it's not funny), and I really didn't like what I saw. So I think I'll do myself a favour and stay around to be with the one I love. Cause what if I did get clobbered and hit my head, or the shot on the turd was a little too good and I'm up for manslaughter.... or murder cause it was premeditated. I know, probably a little overdramatic, but it would be hard to support her from behind bars.
Thanks again all
John
Post by: tracker on December 02, 2015, 04:39:50 AM
.I hope she is big enough not to label all cyclist that same....not like some of the pee brained tossers that have replied to this thread.....keyboard warriors.
I'v read my post a few times and couldn't find any mention of cyclist's any where......so that must leave me out of the .. " pea brained tosser's ..keyboard warriors bracket "... ;D ;D
Cheers Tracker.
Post by: macca on December 02, 2015, 05:19:55 AM
Post 3 from Bird????????One post, talk about over re acting
Post by: tracker on December 02, 2015, 05:26:18 AM
;D ;D ;D ;D
Post by: cruiser 91 on December 02, 2015, 06:02:41 AM
Cyclist (peddlies) are prohibited from using our expressways and freeways for a reason, the law should apply to all roads.
As a previous keen motorcyclist both dirt and road, I had retired from public road riding due to too many near death experiences. I value my life more than the high of riding my Black Bird XXX.
I now have many friends that have also retired from public road riding due to recent bike road deaths and taken up the safety of track meets.
Post by: weeds on December 02, 2015, 06:27:51 AM
.I hope she is big enough not to label all cyclist that same....not like some of the pee brained tossers that have replied to this thread.....keyboard warriors.
I'v read my post a few times and couldn't find any mention of cyclist's any where......so that must leave me out of the .. " pea brained tosser's ..keyboard warriors bracket "... ;D ;D
Cheers Tracker.
Must do I guess........lucky you eh
Post by: weeds on December 02, 2015, 06:29:18 AM
One post, talk about over re acting
Nah, just my two bobs worth........
Post by: stabicraft on December 02, 2015, 06:46:18 AM
But the fact is that cyclists (Particularly the Lycra clad kind) always seem to be very angry and instant to respond with violence if threatened, or questioned.
Yes, if you must know I ride a bike, no I don't wear Lycra and No I don't go off at every boor bugger that fails to see me because its my own damn fault.
Having ridden motorcycles for nearly 40 years, I have learned a thing or two about survival.
The first rule of motorcycling is thet you must ride as if every other road user is trying to kill you.
This of course is not factual, but its a good way to avoid being the result of someone else's mistake.
You see, the real logic behind this thinking is simply this.
A driver looks out his mirrors and windows looking for vehicles, or threats to his vehicle.
A small motorcycle or pushbike does not register, it slots into the part of the brain that registers pedestrians who cannot travel fast enough to be either a threat or has any real speed.
Its not deliberate, or vindictive, its just how drivers see these small insignificant objects.
Now Riders, both motorized and non motorized, need to accept the fact that they are not seen.
Its not deliberate or vindictive, it just don't register in a drivers mind.
Once you accept that fact and get off your high horse of "I HAVE AS MUCH RIGHT TO BE ON THE ROAD" you will find life is more permanent.
You also have to make yourself seen.
I'm not talking bright colours or as some motorcycle groups advocate, removing the baffles to make ear destroying noise, Im talking riding in a way that makes you visible to the drivers.
Now this will be hard for some, but follow the logic.
1) Ride behind the car in front, not alongside or in the drivers blind spot.
2) Don't ride between cars while they are moving, unless you really don't like living, a stationary car takes a second or so to move in front of you, time enough to take evasive action. A moving car takes much less.
3) Don't overtake on the inside if you are coming up to a corner or driveway, yes there are lots of those, but cars use them and if you come up alongside a car turning into one, it will hurt you more than them. And they don't always use indicators.
4) Watch the front wheels of the car in front. This is a good one, A cars wheels turn before it does, you see movement, hit the brakes.
5) Finally, If someone makes a mistake and something happens, learn from it, look back at what YOU did wrong, after all you are just as responsible in most cases 5% rule so happily noted earlier, only 5% of drivers aim to make riders lives unhappy and only 5% of riders ride safely.
Blind spots,
Most drivers have their side mirrors angled so that they can see down the side of their cars, pointless really, by the time a vehicle is that close its way too late.
This creates a huge blind spot, once the vehicle behind leaves your rear view mirror, you don't see it until its alongside you or even in front of you depending on your personal peripheral vision.
The mirrors on the side should be set so you see vehicles in the next lane. Ideally as they leave your rear view mirror and until they come into the drivers peripheral vision. You will find if you do this the number of near misses changing lanes goes to ZERO. And you can see bikes and riders in the lane next to you.
As for using the law to sort out this brain dead camel who spits on people, forget it, the law is there simply to generate revenue for the government.
Find him, warn him and if he tries it again, hurt him, simple really.
If you waste you time reporting him it will be an exercise in frustration.
The law only wants to deal with cases where they have witnesses, evidence and can generate some revenue, none of which you currently have.
The spitter will have a great old laugh at your expense and frustration and only make him more eager to do it again.
Been there, done that. when my wife was pushed to the ground by an idiot on the street many years ago.
The cops were uninterested, the thug was smug and I was angry.
Next time we crossed paths he fell over and hurt his jaw, these things happen.
Post by: Beachman on December 02, 2015, 08:02:11 AM
Pretty sad world we are turning into when some gets spat on the face for a honest mistake or pushed in front of a truck.
Post by: tk421 on December 02, 2015, 11:57:34 AM
The first rule of motorcycling is that you must ride as if every other road user is trying to kill you.
That's my first rule of driving my car too: "Drive as if every other road user is trying to kill you."
Post by: Green rv on December 02, 2015, 12:01:40 PM
That's my first rule of driving my car too: "Drive as if every other road user is trying to kill you."
mine is similar.. drive as if it will end up on you boob if you stuff up
Post by: letsgoplaces on December 02, 2015, 01:58:06 PM
.I hope she is big enough not to label all cyclist that same
No, and she made that clear on her facebook page.
It wasn't a tirade towards cyclists, it was towards a f#ckwit who happens to ride a bike
She took today off as well and has had some retail therapy.... never believed in it til today :D
I spoke to her earlier and she feels much better, so if she is feeling better, then going after the turd will just make things worse
Still, need to wait for tests to be done and hopefully the results will be negative
Cheers
John
Post by: letsgoplaces on December 02, 2015, 02:04:49 PM
Yesterday must have been road rage day as here in Brisbane 2 men got into an incident on the road and one got pushed in front on a truck and died.
Pretty sad world we are turning into when some gets spat on the face for a honest mistake or pushed in front of a truck.
Yep, shocking and sad
"Drive as if every other road user is trying to kill you."
That's how I drive too.
It's a pity that most people drive either aggressive. arrogant or just plain stupid
Post by: cruiserv8 on December 02, 2015, 02:18:44 PM
Sadly, dickhead cyclists are dickhead drivers and
dickhead drivers are the same dickhead cyclists.
Every third ride I do I would get told to "get off the road you fat c-word' , all im trying to do is get fit and lose weight.
Hope your mrs is ok
Post by: tracker on December 02, 2015, 04:11:32 PM
Quote from: tracker on Today at 04:39:50 AM
.I hope she is big enough not to label all cyclist that same
Just to set the records straight......This was not my quote it was WEEDS #21 Quote which i copied and pasted.......Im certainly not a lycra wearing guy....i call then liquorice all sorts ;D ;D ;D
Cheers Tracker.
Post by: letsgoplaces on December 02, 2015, 06:49:12 PM
G'day,
Quote from: tracker on Today at 04:39:50 AM
.I hope she is big enough not to label all cyclist that same
Just to set the records straight......This was not my quote
Cheers Tracker.
No worries, the answer is still the same ;D
Post by: Elky on December 02, 2015, 08:23:01 PM
Post by: tk421 on December 03, 2015, 10:07:54 AM
I think some commenting on the forum have missed that point...
It wasn't a tirade towards cyclists, it was towards a f#ckwit who happens to ride a bike
Hope the retail therapy helped.
I hate to say it but the wait for the test results will be horrible. Housemate of mine had to get hepatitis and aids tests after we woke up to two burglars in our uni flat. Fisticuffs ensued and he cut his hands on the guy's teeth - turns out the burglar was an intravenous drug user. Bloody nervous time for him. Thankfully all clear after it all, but he was a wibbling mess for a while.
It was satisfying that one did time for it (the other escaped). The one that got caught apparently required stitches when he arrived at the station. It was all such confusing and frightening time that no-one involved (including the arresting officers he threw punches at) knew how it could possibly have happened.
Post by: NewieCamper on December 03, 2015, 10:52:36 AM
Personally I think cyclist have no place on our roads these days.It's fine for you to think that, and others can think that too. Just remember though that cyclists are still allowed to ride on the road. they aren't there to hold you up, just to get someplace.
Cyclist (peddlies) are prohibited from using our expressways and freeways for a reason, the law should apply to all roads.
.....
Sometimes having a couple of tonnes of metal creating a near death experience can result in a reaction driven by adrenalin, sometimes resulting in over-reactions that the cyclist later regrets.
And of course there are still the minority nut cases/grubs like the guy in the OP out there too.
Post by: gronk on December 03, 2015, 02:04:05 PM
Personally I think cyclist have no place on our roads these days.
I agree......and me and you will get howled down for saying so, but while it doesn't bother me personally, anyone who rides a pushy on main roads is just a statistic waiting to happen. Ride as careful as you like, the odds are sooner or later you ARE going to get hit.
Most who ride are doing it to keep fit......get a mountain bike and hit the trails...the tree you hit will still hurt, but it's not coming at you at 60 k/ph !!
Post by: The punter on December 03, 2015, 02:25:31 PM
Post by: callmejoe on December 03, 2015, 02:39:52 PM
Pedestrians shouldnt be allowed outside of their houses either
Yeah specially the ugly 1's.
The could scare a someone operating a drone, causing them to lose control. Then the drone could fall from the sky, about roof height then shot off towards a car causing a crash.
Post by: NewieCamper on December 04, 2015, 09:46:39 AM
I agree......and me and you will get howled down for saying so, but while it doesn't bother me personally, anyone who rides a pushy on main roads is just a statistic waiting to happen. Ride as careful as you like, the odds are sooner or later you ARE going to get hit.
Most who ride are doing it to keep fit......get a mountain bike and hit the trails...the tree you hit will still hurt, but it's not coming at you at 60 k/ph !!
That's fine for your opinion, but cyclists are here to stay and until the rate payers and tax payer can afford to build a separate cycle way next to every single road cyclists are going to have to use roads. The higher fuel prices go, the more of us you will see too especially in urban areas to get around.
Post by: wilson79 on December 04, 2015, 09:56:07 AM
Now when I stopped to offer assistance he started going off at me saying I bent his front wheel calling me all sorts of names starting with "F" & "c", I was going to offer him assistance and throw his bike in the back of my ute and give him a lift but after telling him he was a knob and another motorist letting him know he did the wrong thing not me,(turns out the other motorist was an off duty cop) I just jumped back in my car an drove off..
Post by: tk421 on December 04, 2015, 10:50:50 AM
Just had a man in Lycra this morning come tearing through a red arrow at full speed and could not take the corner and hit the side of my car, did no damage to my car as he hit the bull bar but bent his front wheel at nearly 90 degrees.. lucky I was only doing about 40 at the time as the light had only just gone green as I was approaching..
Now when I stopped to offer assistance he started going off at me saying I bent his front wheel calling me all sorts of names starting with "F" & "c", I was going to offer him assistance and throw his bike in the back of my ute and give him a lift but after telling him he was a knob and another motorist letting him know he did the wrong thing not me,(turns out the other motorist was an off duty cop) I just jumped back in my car an drove off..
Walked out of work yesterday to an Ambulance dealing with a cyclist. He'd been knocked off his bike by a taxi running a red light. No the cyclist, the taxi.
Cyclist at work 2 years ago cycling on a marked and separated (with raised concrete edges) bike path broke his leg when a pedestrian on their iPhone stepped out in front of him without looking.
The short answer is there's idiots and eff-wits everywhere. We can all find examples to fit. Just watch some dash cam compilations on youtube
Post by: gronk on December 04, 2015, 11:35:07 AM
That's fine for your opinion, but cyclists are here to stay and until the rate payers and tax payer can afford to build a separate cycle way next to every single road cyclists are going to have to use roads. The higher fuel prices go, the more of us you will see too especially in urban areas to get around.
Only my opinion..
I've got no problem with cyclists, but against a car, they will never win and most of the time it's going to hurt.
I'm against taxpayers paying for cycle ways, when the cost for one is for a minority and the cyclist pays nothing towards it .
It's like playing russian roulette out on the roads, and I don't ride because I don't like the odds !
Post by: tk421 on December 04, 2015, 11:43:06 AM
Only my opinion..The Europeans seem to cope. Its chicken and egg. Build more paths, more people will use them.
I've got no problem with cyclists, but against a car, they will never win and most of the time it's going to hurt.
I'm against taxpayers paying for cycle ways, when the cost for one is for a minority and the cyclist pays nothing towards it .
It's like playing russian roulette out on the roads, and I don't ride because I don't like the odds !
Roads are funded by general taxation (not rego), which means that everybody funds the infrastructure; pedestrians, motorists, even cyclists. The the majority of cyclists also own a car, so they are all paying registration anyway.
According to the Australian Cyclists Party, (ACP) State and Territory governments only dedicate 0.6% of their road-related expenditure on cyclist related projects. This means that bike paths and related infrastructure not really a drain on the public purse
Post by: gronk on December 04, 2015, 12:14:10 PM
Post by: weeds on December 04, 2015, 12:32:47 PM
Only my opinion..
I've got no problem with cyclists, but against a car, they will never win and most of the time it's going to hurt.
I'm against taxpayers paying for cycle ways, when the cost for one is for a minority and the cyclist pays nothing towards it .
It's like playing russian roulette out on the roads, and I don't ride because I don't like the odds !
I reckon most cyclist are tax payers therefore they are contributing......in one form or another.
Post by: weeds on December 04, 2015, 12:37:02 PM
They built bike lanes in Sydney....at great cost...and added to car congestion....and they don't get used....the cyclists still ride on the road ?
I'm a little confused.......you say bike lanes were built but increased congestion....than you say cyclists still use the road........are the bike lanes not on the roads???
I'm guessing the bikes lanes may not the the most direct route......no different to using your car instead of catching the bus as bus route rarely go where I need to go.
Post by: tk421 on December 04, 2015, 12:38:03 PM
They built bike lanes in Sydney....at great cost...and added to car congestion....and they don't get used....the cyclists still ride on the road ?
I'll have to disagree.
A Transport for NSW analysis showed separated bike lanes installed in central Sydney have doubled the number of cyclists on the road but led to fewer total injuries among them. Extract from the report:
"Detailed analysis shows ... the number of reported injuries has been halved on the sections of road where separated cycle ways have been constructed," the analysis says. The documents also show that the separated bike lanes in central Sydney regularly carry as many people as in cars on adjacent traffic lanes. The Kent Street cycleway moves 34 per cent of the people using that road in the morning peak, but takes up 25 per cent of the road space. The College Street cycleway, which the government proposes to rip up, moves 20 per cent of the people on 20 per cent of the road space."
City of Sydney Website: "More and more Sydneysiders are riding bikes for transport, with a 100% increase over the past 3 years. Twice as many are riding bikes for transport than the national average, and some 31,600 City of Sydney residents get on a bike in a typical week (2013 Australian Bicycle Council survey)."
Not sure how they add to congestion: Put four cars in a road lane, and they'll fill its width and stretch for more than 20 metres Cyclists take up far less space. So, bike lanes appear sparsely occupied even when they're carrying more people than an adjacent car lane. The good news? Most bike lanes still have capacity to spare.
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Post by: weeds on December 04, 2015, 12:40:46 PM
Walked out of work yesterday to an Ambulance dealing with a cyclist. He'd been knocked off his bike by a taxi running a red light. No the cyclist, the taxi.
Cyclist at work 2 years ago cycling on a marked and separated (with raised concrete edges) bike path broke his leg when a pedestrian on their iPhone stepped out in front of him without looking.
The short answer is there's idiots and eff-wits everywhere. We can all find examples to fit. Just watch some dash cam compilations on youtube
Agree......you won't find driver on myswag that hasn't made a mistake while driving.
Post by: scblack on December 04, 2015, 12:41:07 PM
I'm against taxpayers paying for cycle ways, when the cost for one is for a minority and the cyclist pays nothing towards it .As tk421 says that statement is just plain wrong. Cyclists are taxpayers the same as everyone else, and basically all road riders will also have at least one car, so are paying rego and insurances, same as other motorists.
Are you trying to suggest that as motorists pay rego, they are paying for roads? Again, as th421 says roads are paid from general revenue, so all taxpayers are paying for roads - whether they are driving or not.
Only my opinion..I have been commuting on Sydney roads for 8 years now, and ridden 26,000kms in that time. Never been hit by a car. I have to say, 99.999% of drivers are actually bloody awesome towards cyclists - as long as you are not being an idiot. There is of course the tiny minority of motorists who are simply f*ckwits whenever a cyclist is around.
I've got no problem with cyclists, but against a car, they will never win and most of the time it's going to hurt.
It's like playing russian roulette out on the roads, and I don't ride because I don't like the odds!
They built bike lanes in Sydney....at great cost...and added to car congestion....and they don't get used....the cyclists still ride on the road ?Rubbish. Cycle lane usage can be quite high at peak times. Maybe you need to be there when people are actually using them. How often are you driving past them?
"added to car congestion" - Not true. The lanes used were mostly parking lanes anyway so that argument has no basis. And guess what? Every cyclist riding, is another vehicle not added to traffic, so that reduces congestion.
Post by: weeds on December 04, 2015, 12:41:35 PM
Just had a man in Lycra this morning come tearing through a red arrow at full speed and could not take the corner and hit the side of my car, did no damage to my car as he hit the bull bar but bent his front wheel at nearly 90 degrees.. lucky I was only doing about 40 at the time as the light had only just gone green as I was approaching..
Now when I stopped to offer assistance he started going off at me saying I bent his front wheel calling me all sorts of names starting with "F" & "c", I was going to offer him assistance and throw his bike in the back of my ute and give him a lift but after telling him he was a knob and another motorist letting him know he did the wrong thing not me,(turns out the other motorist was an off duty cop) I just jumped back in my car an drove off..
Human error maybe??.........pretty sure cars run red light by accident as well......
Post by: glenm64 on December 04, 2015, 01:14:04 PM
So is every other person and its about priorities.
Our greater urban sprawl and distances between mean the km of cycleways needed is high.
I would rather have it spent on neccesities like police hospitals and the like.
And on the subject of bike riders what is the problem of them being licenced?
Every form of road legal vehicle has one.
If you are obeying the road rules you have nothing to fear. But we all have seen the not so small percentage of cyclists who dont obey road rules, and at the same time abuse, kick cars stuck in traffic etc because THEIR road rights are perceived to have been violated.
Yes cyclists may have a car also but so what? If i chose to have 1,2 or 3 vehicles I must have a valid licence to drive each, and pay for registration and insurance on each of them.
So what makes a cyclist so special?
Well besides the fetish for Lycra.
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Post by: chillipepperz on December 04, 2015, 01:33:30 PM
They built bike lanes in Sydney....at great cost...and added to car congestion....and they don't get used....the cyclists still ride on the road ?
Not anti cycling at all, in fact have a significant past history, but the Lycra don't fit anymore...but daily I sit in my office in Frome St in the Adelaide CBD where there is the hideously expensive segregated bike path system in place...and watch some of our two wheel warriors ride the wrong way, text on their phones, abuse pedestrians, run red lights and generally have a good time at everyone else's expense. Only the minority's though and by and large the pathway is a good system.
If only we could reduce the war on SA roads between cars and cyclists I might consider clipping back into the pedals...oh yeah, but of course now in SA we can ride on footpaths legally, at any speed, anywhere...and so started the great pedestrian V cyclist war of 2015.
Post by: wilson79 on December 04, 2015, 02:00:20 PM
Human error maybe??.........pretty sure cars run red light by accident as well......
absolutely right 100%, I don't have an issue with that it was just the abuse that I copped for asking if he was alright..
Post by: The punter on December 04, 2015, 02:12:48 PM
Not anti cycling at all, in fact have a significant past history, but the Lycra don't fit anymore...but daily I sit in my office in Frome St in the Adelaide CBD where there is the hideously expensive segregated bike path system in place...and watch some of our two wheel warriors ride the wrong way, text on their phones, abuse pedestrians, run red lights and generally have a good time at everyone else's expense. Only the minority's though and by and large the pathway is a good system.
If only we could reduce the war on SA roads between cars and cyclists I might consider clipping back into the pedals...oh yeah, but of course now in SA we can ride on footpaths legally, at any speed, anywhere...and so started the great pedestrian V cyclist war of 2015.
I ride that same stretch on Frome street at least 3x a week and I have witnessed or been part of way more near misses because people in cars either don't look at all or have no idea what a blind spot is, or just dont care than I have witnessed idiot cyclists. I know there's plenty around though, I feel the real issue is that drivers just are not trained properly, and a good number probably should never be on the road at all because they are just too dumb.
Post by: chillipepperz on December 04, 2015, 02:23:59 PM
I ride that same stretch on Frome street at least 3x a week and I have witnessed or been part of way more near misses because people in cars either don't look at all or have no idea what a blind spot is, or just dont care than I have witnessed idiot cyclists. I know there's plenty around though, I feel the real issue is that drivers just are not trained properly, and a good number probably should never be on the road at all because they are just too dumb.
So true...that's the other side of the story...the cars cant handle the Frome St Bikeway. Have seen cars/vans parked in the Bikeway, cyclists cut off by left hand turners at the lights and the usual careless things.
With the new 1 metre or 1.5 metre rule in SA for passing cars: I cant believe that drivers would knowingly give any less space to a cyclist than this. Surely we have all been cyclists at some stage, even if we haven't had a red hot go on two wheels since we were kids (or had kids and taught them how to ride), so we have all been there, done that at some stage. Mutual understanding, less agro and we will all get there safe.
Seems we may have gone off topic a tad. I hope the recovery of the OP is going well and there are no long term scars.
Cheers!
Andrew
Post by: Bird on December 04, 2015, 02:25:38 PM
Post by: NewieCamper on December 04, 2015, 02:27:29 PM
Cyclists may be tax payers but..........That's fine, as long as we can all agree that cyclists have a place on the road if we aren't going to build cycleways.
So is every other person and its about priorities.
Our greater urban sprawl and distances between mean the km of cycleways needed is high.
I would rather have it spent on neccesities like police hospitals and the like.
And on the subject of bike riders what is the problem of them being licenced?
Every form of road legal vehicle has one.
If you are obeying the road rules you have nothing to fear. But we all have seen the not so small percentage of cyclists who dont obey road rules, and at the same time abuse, kick cars stuck in traffic etc because THEIR road rights are perceived to have been violated.
Yes cyclists may have a car also but so what? If i chose to have 1,2 or 3 vehicles I must have a valid licence to drive each, and pay for registration and insurance on each of them
What about kids cycling, will they need a licence? At what age will you need a licence for a bicycle. I'm all for educating on the road rules, but licensing for kids isn't going to work. Do my 8 and 10yo kids need a licence to ride down the back streets to the cycleway with me?
The vast majority of riders also already have a drivers licence and there is nothing stopping the police from fining a rider doing the wrong thing already. It does happen. Not having a licence doesn't stop the police from identifying you either, just slows them down as they need to use other means.
Rego is a system of identification for motor vehicles, the insurance is for those unlucky enough to get hit by a motor vehicle to have their medical expenses covered. Cyclists do not do anywhere near the damage of motor vehicles. The only reason to have rego for cyclists is to allow for those that shirk their responsibilities and ride off into the sunset after they cause a crash, a tiny minority of the population and we are increasingly finding that social media and surveillance cameras is bringing these people to justice anyway.
People also want to use rego to report cyclists for running red lights etc. not going to work either. Cars have rego plates and trying to report them for doing the wrong thing (with video evidence) seems often to be a waste of time.
Post by: gronk on December 04, 2015, 02:51:16 PM
I have been commuting on Sydney roads for 8 years now, and ridden 26,000kms in that time. Never been hit by a car.
You are one very lucky person..
Post by: gronk on December 04, 2015, 02:57:29 PM
Cyclists do not do anywhere near the damage of motor vehicles.
But when one runs into a car, even if it only scratches the door, who pays ? Bike rider has no id, no insurance. He says it wasn't his fault, or he picks his bike up and pi**es off ? Without a dash cam, a copper won't want to know you, and you have no way of tracing the rider ?
Post by: scblack on December 04, 2015, 03:08:43 PM
You are one very lucky person..In part, you're possibly right. I do give drivers credit - the vast majority are excellent to cyclists, from my experience.
BUT, I do many things for my safety:
- I have four POWERFUL lights - two on bike forward and rear facing - two on helmet forward and rear facing.
- I wear bright coloured clothing.
- I choose carefully the roads I ride on, picking those with a breakdown lane, verge, or quiet traffic.
- I leave early in mornings, to miss the heaviest traffic.
- I ride assertively - keep to the road rules and make sure drivers know my intentions, so they know where I'm going.
- be very very alert - as others have said to ride as though any car is going to kill me.
- I steer clear of Camry drivers, 3tonne trucks, buses and young female drivers - to cyclists they are the dangers.
- Be polite - drivers like that and give you space.
Statistically I am more likely to be hit crossing a road in the CBD, so cycling is really not as dangerous as you make out. But we are the vulnerable road users.
Post by: NewieCamper on December 04, 2015, 03:29:36 PM
But when one runs into a car, even if it only scratches the door, who pays ? Bike rider has no id, no insurance. He says it wasn't his fault, or he picks his bike up and pi**es off ? Without a dash cam, a copper won't want to know you, and you have no way of tracing the rider ?
When someone reverses into your car the drives off with no-one around?
When a little old lady pushes her trolley into the side of the car then wanders off?
Post by: gronk on December 04, 2015, 03:40:04 PM
When someone reverses into your car the drives off with no-one around?
When a little old lady pushes her trolley into the side of the car then wanders off?
I'm talking about when you are in the car and see them do it !
Me, they wouldn't be riding anywhere without showing id or coughing up hundreds of dollars, but a female...what does she do ?
Post by: glenm64 on December 04, 2015, 03:48:38 PM
If a car hits and injures a cyclist the cars 3rd party covers it.
What about pedestrians injured by bikes, is it ok to say it's the pedestrians problem?
Anyway thats just my reckonings.
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Post by: The punter on December 04, 2015, 04:00:35 PM
If theres some form of ID on all bikes whats the problem whether their 5 or 50. An a__hole rider is gone way before a cop shows up. You can then identify any illegal behavior.
If a car hits and injures a cyclist the cars 3rd party covers it.
What about pedestrians injured by bikes, is it ok to say it's the pedestrians problem?
Anyway thats just my reckonings.
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Bike rego would just put heaps back into cars, making it even harder for your commute. With an already obese society, discouraging bike usage is just stupid.
There's dickheads everywhere, some ride bikes, lots drive cars, then there's the dumb ones, the old ones, the new ones and the ones who don't actually hold a licence but do anyday.
I challenge all of you anti bike types here to ride to work for a week, I bet you change your tune.
Post by: macca on December 04, 2015, 04:07:17 PM
The bike / car argument is about as solvable as the Toyota /Nissan argument
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on December 04, 2015, 04:07:57 PM
I challenge all of you anti bike types here to ride to work for a week, I bet you change your tune.
Why would anyone want to do that?
That's why we have public transport....... nice and safe.
Post by: chillipepperz on December 04, 2015, 04:18:04 PM
Why would anyone want to do that?EDIT: wrong link!
That's why we have public transport....... nice and safe.
Post by: plusnq on December 04, 2015, 04:18:16 PM
Wasn't this thread about some grub spitting in a ladies face?
The bike / car argument is about as solvable as the Toyota /Nissan argument
That argument is easier. Everyone knows the Toyotas are the superior machine ;D ;D ;D
Post by: Kangaron on December 04, 2015, 04:37:06 PM
It will make you feel better.
Post by: scblack on December 04, 2015, 05:05:58 PM
to the OP, just go down there in the morning and crack of few cyclists heads, remember, better the wrong man than no man at all.The slack jawed yokel just arrived.
It will make you feel better.
Post by: Rumpig on December 04, 2015, 05:24:03 PM
What about kids cycling, will they need a licence? At what age will you need a licence for a bicycle. I'm all for educating on the road rules, but licensing for kids isn't going to work. Do my 8 and 10yo kids need a licence to ride down the back streets to the cycleway with me?i reckon forget a specific licence for riding push bikes, can't see that ever working myself. Just make it so that once you reach the age of say 16 - 17. you need to have a rego plate on your bike for easy identification. Before that age you're your parents responsibilty, after that age you are old enough for a car licence, so after that age you be required to have something on the bike that makes you easily identified. In this age of dash cams and security cameras etc, it'll make identification of individuals easier for prosecution when they do soemthing stupid, but it's not going to solve the problem at the end of the day, just as it doesn't stop people being wankers in cars etc..
Post by: oldmate on December 04, 2015, 05:30:35 PM
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Anyone for a Chinese camper?
Post by: Kangaron on December 04, 2015, 06:06:13 PM
The slack jawed yokel just arrived.
I think they arrived a few pages back
Post by: NewieCamper on December 04, 2015, 06:35:50 PM
... but it's not going to solve the problem at the end of the day, just as it doesn't stop people being wankers in cars etc..Nailed it
Post by: TheWall on December 04, 2015, 08:23:22 PM
One of the reasons I chuckle is that there must be some perfect 'I never speed, always indicate' drivers out there if they can comment so much about other road sharers. Amazing that cars/trucks run into each other when everyone is so perfectly compliant with the law
.After 12000klm in 18 months I have lost 21kg and am as fit as fiddle for a 4ahem0 yo. Look back to what a fat b**t@r! I was and I cannot believe I let myself get to that state. I remember trying to do a 1klm fun run with my then 5yo daughter and I could not last the distance
without walking.It is legal to ride two abreast (and usually safer as cars need to make a more considered pass) and in Qld it is min 1m space (why would you WANT to give less - it is a mum, dad, sis or son etc - you are passing????) Oh, and lots of bikes have cameras like mine.
Good to see heaps more cyclists out and about on the Sunny Coast - especially the more senior and also women.
Cycling is amazing (why would you want to be caged up in a gym!!!) and makes beer taste even better. Seriously. You can even get away with calling it carb loading or a sports recovery drink (Google it...it must be true) but as per the OP, tossers are never far away. Take this chap in the Hyundai...he had two goes at me - one of them almost sent me a/over a kerb) and the local Cops are contacting (I assume his wife?) tomorrow to contact him as the rego is in her name. Bet that will make her happy ba ha ha.
As for waiting to be a road stat...yep, that is all of us who drive no matter what our choice of vehicle is. Be safe out there all. And remember somebody is filming
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Post by: letsgoplaces on December 04, 2015, 10:38:16 PM
Just a tad :laugh:
Seems we may have gone off topic a tad. I hope the recovery of the OP is going well and there are no long term scars.
Cheers!
Andrew
Wasn't this thread about some grub spitting in a ladies face?Yep ;D
The bike / car argument is about as solvable as the Toyota /Nissan argument
and the original Ford/Holden or blonde/brunette 'discussions'
PS: Yes, of course the cyclist is a luny mentioned by the OP. We are not all like that. Hope she is ok and good call not going after vengeance yourself. No one wins as per the road rage death on the Gateway Motorway this week.Cheers. The retail therapy and a couple of days off work has certainly helped.
But until the blood tests are finalised, that will be hanging over our heads
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on December 06, 2015, 07:40:43 AM
Its always the bike riders fault and I can show you why.
When a pushbike is ridden, very seldom, will the rider keep a straight line like a car will.
When a car applies power, the car stays along the same line, just quicker over ground.
When a push bike speeds up, the bike wobbles from side to side as the extra power is applied.
When a push rider really guns it to say ride up a hill, they stand up on the peddles and really get the ol side to side hip swinging shimmy shimmy action going.
The poor car driver, is now swerving all over the place to maintain a safe 1 metre distance as they drive past a group of lycra lads.
That's the reason why sometimes they get bumped off.
Now, just to prove my point, lets take all the vehicle off the road except push bikes.
The "Tour De France" is a good example.......
The push bike riders, now start to crash into each other.... don't they.
I bet the first thing they do when they get their gravel rashed butt off the bitumen is look for the offending car.
Why don't push bike riders demand the one metre rule in this case?
There'd be less stacks, no elbowing other riders and they should be very happy.
I say its discrimination. (Spelling?)
I watched the Noosa Tri once, and I felt so happy to see the pushbike riders leaving Noosa, only to be very disappointed when they turned around and rode back in again. :'(
Post by: scblack on December 06, 2015, 12:14:45 PM
I can't see why a pushie rider could ever blame a car/truck/4WD driver for them having a stack.Haha that's quite a funny read. Its good to see someone add a bit of humour.
Its always the bike riders fault and I can show you why.
When a pushbike is ridden, very seldom, will the rider keep a straight line like a car will.
When a car applies power, the car stays along the same line, just quicker over ground.
When a push bike speeds up, the bike wobbles from side to side as the extra power is applied.
When a push rider really guns it to say ride up a hill, they stand up on the peddles and really get the ol side to side hip swinging shimmy shimmy action going.
The poor car driver, is now swerving all over the place to maintain a safe 1 metre distance as they drive past a group of lycra lads.
That's the reason why sometimes they get bumped off.
Now, just to prove my point, lets take all the vehicle off the road except push bikes.
The "Tour De France" is a good example.......
The push bike riders, now start to crash into each other.... don't they.
I bet the first thing they do when they get their gravel rashed butt off the bitumen is look for the offending car.
Why don't push bike riders demand the one metre rule in this case?
There'd be less stacks, no elbowing other riders and they should be very happy.
Decimation I say.
I watched the Noosa Tri once, and I felt so happy to see the pushbike riders leaving Noosa, only to be very disappointed when they turned around and rode back in again. :'(
Post by: scblack on December 07, 2015, 07:35:41 AM
Just a tad :laugh:I am one who has gone slightly off topic. Sorry mate.
Cheers. The retail therapy and a couple of days off work has certainly helped.
But until the blood tests are finalised, that will be hanging over our heads
I am disgusted that any person would do such a degrading act as this dickhead did.
Hope she comes through clean, and all is well for her.
Post by: Bird on December 07, 2015, 07:43:55 AM
Post by: Goose on December 07, 2015, 08:31:04 AM
Reckon you find the Goose to be a total wanker
Yeah fair call...
Post by: letsgoplaces on December 07, 2015, 10:22:10 AM
I am one who has gone slightly off topic. Sorry mate.All good :angel:
I am disgusted that any person would do such a degrading act as this dickhead did.
Hope she comes through clean, and all is well for her.
I think she's struggling more than she realises, but there are other stresses for her at the moment too, and this is just another straw on the camel's back. The back is bending, but it's not broken yet
Hopefully I'll be back in 6 or 8 weeks to say the tests are negative... in a positive way :)
I'd still go back with a box of 500 thumbtacks and spread them liberally as you drove along next to him..:laugh:
Yeah fair call...Don't look now, but I think edz just called you a wanker ;D :laugh:
:cheers:
John
Post by: Footy Shorts Shane on December 07, 2015, 11:13:57 AM
I challenge all of you anti bike types here to ride to work for a week, I bet you change your tune.
No thanks, that's 900 km for me. I'd be dead after 900m.
Post by: noel_w on December 07, 2015, 11:38:33 AM
No thanks, that's 900 km for me. I'd be dead after 900m.You could ride this
Post by: alnjan on December 07, 2015, 12:39:15 PM
You could ride this
Is that Mundines?
Post by: gronk on December 07, 2015, 01:25:28 PM
.
I challenge all of you anti bike types here to ride to work for a week, I bet you change your tune.
If I wanted to keep fit, it wouldn't be on a road pushy , I know what pain is when you hit something..
Mountain bike maybe.....but my point all along has been if you ride a pushy amongst motor cars, then you are VERY likely to hit one of them.. And who really cares which person was in the right when you are laid up in hospital !!
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on December 09, 2015, 05:29:50 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSwlVtCa3ss (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSwlVtCa3ss)
Post by: oldmate on December 09, 2015, 05:34:48 PM
I nearly wet myself laughing.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSwlVtCa3ss (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSwlVtCa3ss)
Geez, you heartless. Those 2 dogs probably were injured in that.
Post by: stabicraft on December 09, 2015, 06:10:21 PM
But then again, its improving the human race by removing the dead wood.
Post by: weeds on December 09, 2015, 07:12:25 PM
If I wanted to keep fit, it wouldn't be on a road pushy , I know what pain is when you hit something..
Mountain bike maybe.....but my point all along has been if you ride a pushy amongst motor cars, then you are VERY likely to hit one of them.. And who really cares which person was in the right when you are laid up in hospital !!
I have had all my stacks on mountain bikes.......that's the way my stats 'stack' up
Post by: weeds on December 09, 2015, 07:14:50 PM
It wouldn't have hurt as much if they wore leather like real bikers.
But then again, its improving the human race by removing the dead wood.
Improving to human race?? WTF.......
I think bike riders are the least of your worries....
Post by: weeds on December 09, 2015, 07:15:44 PM
It wouldn't have hurt as much if they wore leather like real bikers.
But then again, its improving the human race by removing the dead wood.
Improving to human race?? WTF.......
I think bike riders are the least of your worries....
Post by: edz on December 09, 2015, 07:51:16 PM
Yeah fair call...Sorry Goose man ... Should edit that to be " Turkey " instead ;D ;D
Post by: stabicraft on December 10, 2015, 06:41:40 AM
Don't matter what bait you use......you always get a bite........every single time.
As I explained its the Lycra, too tight around the nether regions.......makes you real angry......all the time.
Smile
Post by: The punter on December 10, 2015, 06:56:32 AM
Love fishing fort Lycra clad loonies.
Don't matter what bait you use......you always get a bite........every single time.
As I explained its the Lycra, too tight around the nether regions.......makes you real angry......all the time.
Smile
Such a balanced argument
Post by: plusnq on December 10, 2015, 06:57:35 AM
I nearly wet myself laughing.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSwlVtCa3ss (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSwlVtCa3ss)
That's hilarious.
Post by: NewieCamper on December 10, 2015, 07:33:16 AM
That's hilarious.
Would it be just as funny if all those stacks were motorbikes? Beside the Tour de France has nothing in common with riding in traffic except two wheels per person.
Post by: weeds on December 10, 2015, 07:46:09 AM
Love fishing fort Lycra clad loonies.
Don't matter what bait you use......you always get a bite........every single time.
As I explained its the Lycra, too tight around the nether regions.......makes you real angry......all the time.
Smile
No bite....just pointing out what a tosser you are.
Post by: The punter on December 10, 2015, 08:03:34 AM
No bite....just pointing out what a tosser you are.
:cup:
Post by: plusnq on December 10, 2015, 08:10:15 AM
Would it be just as funny if all those stacks were motorbikes? Beside the Tour de France has nothing in common with riding in traffic except two wheels per person.It's like funniest home videos mate. Lighten up. Humour often has us laughing at the misfortunes of others.
Post by: The punter on December 10, 2015, 08:17:29 AM
Post by: time on December 10, 2015, 08:30:21 AM
Post by: plusnq on December 10, 2015, 08:37:58 AM
I wonder how all of the bike haters would post if their kid got knocked of their bike tomorrow...
Now you want people's kids to get hit by a car to teach someone a lesson. Really! It doesn't matter which side of an argument you are on, this sort of response is bordering on insane. Don't you think you need to just take a break, because this thread has really gone a long way from where it started ?
It started out about the totally irresponsible response of a grub who acted out of anger, without any apparent injury. Whether that grub rode a bike or drove a car was immaterial. He spat at someone who has to wear the worries of a transmittable disease for a month or so until the medical tests come back. Hopefully they are negative. That is the original post and the real issue. Not some stupid war between opposing groups of road users. There is big gulf between concern, passion and anger and some posters on both sides have well and truly crossed it lately.
Ok. Parenting lecture over. You should all go and sit in your rooms and have a good long think about it.
To the OP. I hope the worries subside and the tests all comes back negative for your good wife.
Post by: The punter on December 10, 2015, 08:41:16 AM
Now you want people's kids to get hit by a car to teach someone a lesson. Really! It doesn't matter which side of an argument you are on, this sort of response is bordering on insane. Don't you think you need to just take a break, because this thread has really gone a long way from where it started ?
Where did I say that exactly? maybe read again.. I sit on both "sides" because I drive and ride, and there's dickheads on both sides, and there's dickheads posting dumb stuff on this thread.
Post by: plusnq on December 10, 2015, 08:56:04 AM
I wonder how all of the bike haters would post if their kid got knocked of their bike tomorrow...
Pretty hard to misconstrue this statement.
Where did I say that exactly? maybe read again.. I sit on both "sides" because I drive and ride, and there's dickheads on both sides, and there's dickheads posting dumb stuff on this thread.
On both sides, I would agree. But it is time for a rest, don't you think?
Post by: The punter on December 10, 2015, 09:01:13 AM
Pretty hard to misconstrue this statement.
It is for you obviously
Post by: gronk on December 10, 2015, 11:52:02 AM
http://www.trendfrenzy.net/volvo-lifepaint/ (http://www.trendfrenzy.net/volvo-lifepaint/)
Post by: The punter on December 10, 2015, 11:55:55 AM
How many of you cyclists would use this stuff........even if it was $100 a can ?
http://www.trendfrenzy.net/volvo-lifepaint/ (http://www.trendfrenzy.net/volvo-lifepaint/)
If I rode at night for sure, but the dumbness is amplified after dark, just like some of the comments on this thread.....
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on December 10, 2015, 04:12:25 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pc9lDAGgYHk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pc9lDAGgYHk)
Post by: Rumpig on December 10, 2015, 06:54:48 PM
Love fishing fort Lycra clad loonies.been mostly watching from the sideline on this thread, but it has been pretty funny watching them take the bait :cheers: ;D ;D
Don't matter what bait you use......you always get a bite........every single time.
As I explained its the Lycra, too tight around the nether regions.......makes you real angry......all the time.
Smile
Post by: edz on December 10, 2015, 07:49:25 PM
How many of you cyclists would use this stuff........even if it was $100 a can ?
http://www.trendfrenzy.net/volvo-lifepaint/ (http://www.trendfrenzy.net/volvo-lifepaint/)
The clown with no lights or reflectors, wearing dark clothes riding in the storm rain and night time traffic headlight dazzle an hour ago who almost became an abstract bonnet emblem on the wifes RAV and a Memory at Christmas time, should thank his prefered god, for the quick reactions of the driver behind the wheel and invest in a box full of the stuff, In the name of self preservation .
Post by: NewieCamper on December 11, 2015, 07:55:34 AM
Not many cars at fault here......Just saying.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pc9lDAGgYHk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pc9lDAGgYHk)
Most of them are crossing the road at speed and that's just asking for trouble.
Post by: tk421 on December 11, 2015, 10:16:10 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pc9lDAGgYHk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pc9lDAGgYHk)
Not many bikes at fault here......Just saying.....
https://cycliq.com.au/videos?tag=bad+driving (https://cycliq.com.au/videos?tag=bad+driving)
Post by: gronk on December 11, 2015, 10:46:46 AM
Not many bikes at fault here......Just saying.....
https://cycliq.com.au/videos?tag=bad+driving (https://cycliq.com.au/videos?tag=bad+driving)
Ummm.....the road rules say if you run up the back of someone in front, then you are at fault !! 8) 8)
We all know what the car driver did, but proving it is another thing !!
Post by: The punter on December 11, 2015, 10:52:19 AM
Ummm.....the road rules say if you run up the back of someone in front, then you are at fault !! 8) 8)
We all know what the car driver did, but proving it is another thing !!
The video proves it quite clearly, another dickhead
Post by: tk421 on December 11, 2015, 10:55:48 AM
Ummm.....the road rules say if you run up the back of someone in front, then you are at fault !! 8) 8)
We all know what the car driver did, but proving it is another thing !!
So the car driver is ok in deliberately stopping in an attempt to cause an accident , with a real chance of causing injury because the road rules say he's not at fault? Well that's ok then
Plenty of cars get pulled for brake checking if caught by the cops and I'm pretty sure there is a sub law regarding driving recklessly
Post by: tk421 on December 11, 2015, 11:18:05 AM
Plenty of cars get pulled for brake checking if caught by the cops and I'm pretty sure there is a sub law regarding driving recklessly
Oh look. There is its.
ROAD TRANSPORT ACT 2013 - SECT 117
Negligent, furious or reckless driving
117 Negligent, furious or reckless driving
(cf STM Act, s 42)
(1) A person must not drive a motor vehicle on a road negligently.
Maximum penalty:
(a) if the driving occasions death-30 penalty units or imprisonment for 18 months or both (in the case of a first offence) or 50 penalty units or imprisonment for 2 years or both (in the case of a second or subsequent offence), or
(b) if the driving occasions grievous bodily harm-20 penalty units or imprisonment for 9 months or both (in the case of a first offence) or 30 penalty units or imprisonment for 12 months or both (in the case of a second or subsequent offence), or
(c) if the driving does not occasion death or grievous bodily harm-10 penalty units.
(2) A person must not drive a motor vehicle on a road furiously, recklessly or at a speed or in a manner dangerous to the public.
Maximum penalty: 20 penalty units or imprisonment for 9 months or both (in the case of a first offence) or 30 penalty units or imprisonment for 12 months or both (in the case of a second or subsequent offence).
(3) In considering whether an offence has been committed under this section, the court is to have regard to all the circumstances of the case, including the following:
(a) the nature, condition and use of the road on which the offence is alleged to have been committed,
(b) the amount of traffic that actually is at the time, or which might reasonably be expected to be, on the road,
(c) any obstructions or hazards on the road (including, for example, broken down or crashed vehicles, fallen loads and accident or emergency scenes).
(4) In this section:
"grievous bodily harm" includes any permanent or serious disfigurement.
Post by: gronk on December 11, 2015, 12:17:52 PM
The video proves it quite clearly, another dickhead
The video proves the car in front stopped....but it doesn't show why he stopped, and you can surmise all you like , unless you can prove he slammed on the brakes to cause an accident, the push bike rider is in the wrong.
Same goes for cars, every end for ender you see, sometimes ALL the cars behind the 1st car is in the wrong.
Post by: tk421 on December 11, 2015, 12:50:16 PM
The video proves the car in front stopped....but it doesn't show why he stopped, and you can surmise all you like , unless you can prove he slammed on the brakes to cause an accident, the push bike rider is in the wrong.
Same goes for cars, every end for ender you see, sometimes ALL the cars behind the 1st car is in the wrong.
We can't, but I am sure other witnesses there on scene could and did, and its still clearly reckless and negligent driving leading up to that.
I just find it sad that people are willing to defend someone who is intent on hurting another person. No matter what had happened prior nor the mode of transport, they are deliberately attempting to cause an accident/intimidate them/hurt them. I lump them in the same boat as the bike rider in the OP, and I wouldn't be prepared to defend either.
Post by: The punter on December 11, 2015, 01:05:04 PM
The video proves the car in front stopped....but it doesn't show why he stopped, and you can surmise all you like , unless you can prove he slammed on the brakes to cause an accident, the push bike rider is in the wrong.
Same goes for cars, every end for ender you see, sometimes ALL the cars behind the 1st car is in the wrong.
Driving aggressively
Deliberately swerved
Failing to stop after and accident where an injury has occurred
All right there on film
Post by: gronk on December 11, 2015, 01:11:49 PM
Post by: stabicraft on December 11, 2015, 01:20:39 PM
Quote
No bite....just pointing out what a tosser you are.
Tosser, smosher..................I caught another one.
Take off the Lycra and learn to smile again, angry little man
Post by: stabicraft on December 11, 2015, 01:30:42 PM
Turning in front of a car......stupid
Racing across an intersection and not even giving a car the chance to stop....Stupid
Running into pedestrians.....Ok that's right Pushbike riders have the rights to both road and footpaths.
riding in the dark, wearing dark clothing, no lights....of course its the cars fault.......stupid.
But most annoying is these vegetables have no insurance, carry no ID and never pay for the damage inflicted on vehicles they scratch, dent and damage.
Just so you know, I ride, a mountain bike, off the road and do you know why.
Because its too bloody dangerous to ride on the road........stupid
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on December 11, 2015, 03:45:09 PM
Of course the car driver was most likely at fault in that case, but I don't understand the pushbike riders being there in the first place.
Yeah, I know its not illegal and all that crap...... but it is dangerous for the bike rider.
I reckon anyone along there, car, bus, bike motorbike holding up traffic will always get drivers pissed off.
Lots of people pushing up daisies that were in the right and doing nothing illegal.
Post by: wilson79 on December 11, 2015, 04:12:35 PM
He will go off a caravan drivers on the highway doing 80km and tell you that they shouldn't be on the road and carry on. and then he and his Lycra mates will happily ride 2 abreast and slow everyone down and argue black and blue that he is allowed to do it and drivers just need to be patient..
Unfortunately this argument will never be won in my lifetime any way..
Post by: tracker on December 11, 2015, 05:17:15 PM
My mate is a great one re this debate too
He will go off a caravan drivers on the highway doing 80km and tell you that they shouldn't be on the road and carry on. and then he and his Lycra mates will happily ride 2 abreast and slow everyone down and argue black and blue that he is allowed to do it and drivers just need to be patient..
Unfortunately this argument will never be won in my lifetime any way..
RIP.... ( This thread )
Cheers Tracker.
Post by: NewieCamper on December 11, 2015, 09:28:49 PM
Watching the video it seems to me that stupidity is inherent in most pushbike riders.The only reason it is to dangerous to ride on the roads is because there are too many d-heads driving that are either:
Turning in front of a car......stupid
Racing across an intersection and not even giving a car the chance to stop....Stupid
Running into pedestrians.....Ok that's right Pushbike riders have the rights to both road and footpaths.
riding in the dark, wearing dark clothing, no lights....of course its the cars fault.......stupid.
But most annoying is these vegetables have no insurance, carry no ID and never pay for the damage inflicted on vehicles they scratch, dent and damage.
Just so you know, I ride, a mountain bike, off the road and do you know why.
Because its too bloody dangerous to ride on the road........stupid
Too important to wait for a few seconds to pass safely
So incompetent that they can't judge where the other side of the car is
Or distracted by playing Facebook or texting while driving.
Fortunately these muppets are in the minority.
I find that the majority of drivers act appropriately around me when I ride on the roads. I do worry about the muppet driver factor. sometimes I just want to get from a to b without shelling out $1.50/L and get some bonus exercise without being shut up in a smelly gym. If I want recreational cycling I'll choose the bush every time, but sometimes have to ride roads to get there.
I carry ID and ride in a way that is not going to inflict damage on another (becuase it is also very likely to hurt me more) and wouldn't shirk the responsibility if I did. I'm pretty sure the majority of cyclists are in the same boat. Problem is the d-head cyclist factor ruins it for the rest of us according to motorists that hate 'Lycra louts'
Post by: cancan on December 13, 2015, 07:03:17 AM
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Post by: gronk on December 13, 2015, 09:18:14 AM
I find that the majority of drivers act appropriately around me when I ride on the roads. I do worry about the muppet driver factor.
No different to when driving a car on the roads.....that's why there are so many accidents. But there's a good chance you'll come out of it alive......not so much when on a pushy ..
You blokes need to get fitter, so you can ride at the same speed as the traffic, then you won't have as many problems !
Post by: NewieCamper on December 13, 2015, 01:20:48 PM
You blokes need to get fitter, so you can ride at the same speed as the traffic, then you won't have as many problems !Working on it, but it's hard getting up to speed through lines of stopped cars sometimes.