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Title: Potential Family holiday to West Coast of America
Post by: Beachman on November 05, 2015, 11:47:44 AM
Hi all,

We have 2 kids aged 10 & 8 and currently we are currently saving with the intention to take the kids to America to see Disneyland, Universal studios and Legoland.

The rough plan is to stay in LA for around a week but seeing it’s such a big effort and expense to get there we would also like to visit another city for about 4 nights, so this is where I’m asking for your help. Friends are suggesting we have a stopover at Hawaii on the way home, but seeing as a family we spend so much time on the beach I’m not sure a beach holiday would have the WOW factor.

Another option is San Francisco or Las Vegas? With Vegas I’m not into gambling, but thought the free daytime activities all the casinos have plus the lights might be fun for the kids?

What do you think?

Also another question about driving in LA as thinking about hiring a car and driving from Anaheim 90 minutes to Legoland and then the next day from Anaheim to Universal which is the other side of the city. While I’ve previously driven in Canada,  it wasn’t in Major cities during peak time. When I know the city and also where I am going then things like driving in peak hour traffic doesn’t worry me, but put me in a unknown town and driving on the wrong side of the road then my stress/confidence levels will turn pear shape?

Thanks
Title: Re: Potential Family holiday to West Coast of America
Post by: gronk on November 05, 2015, 12:18:24 PM
Research and research more....time of year can be very important for crowds at the theme parks....10 min wait for a ride compared to a 3 hour wait !!

Travelling around the city is easy....out of peak hour times....and hire a navman with the hire car.

Instead of seeing another city, why not do a cruise down to Mexico ??  Heaps cheaper than Australian cruises and may be cheaper than spending up to a week in a city !
Title: Re: Potential Family holiday to West Coast of America
Post by: glenm64 on November 05, 2015, 12:22:56 PM
If I get there Yosemite NP Yellowstone NP and Grand Canyon all must sees for me.

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Title: Re: Potential Family holiday to West Coast of America
Post by: The punter on November 05, 2015, 12:30:32 PM
LA is terrible, concrete jungle full of rudeness, understand the lure of theme parks, but I'd only use LA for transit

Close by are:
Boulder Dam / Grand Canyon
San Diego Zoo

But if you are looking to get a bit more 'real" I'd be heading to New Orleans or Kansas City. Some of the best "culture" in the US exists in these places, real music, played by real humans who can groove the pants off of any tune.

Shit sorry i digress, wrong forum.
Title: Re: Potential Family holiday to West Coast of America
Post by: Beachman on November 05, 2015, 12:32:55 PM
Research and research more....time of year can be very important for crowds at the theme parks....10 min wait for a ride compared to a 3 hour wait !!

Can’t agree more with your statement. At the moment we are looking at early September which isn’t school holidays in America and also looking at pulling the kids out of school a week early before our holidays start here to try and beat crowds and holiday airfare increases. Also trying to plan the trip so we aren’t visiting these places on weekends.
Title: Re: Potential Family holiday to West Coast of America
Post by: D4D on November 05, 2015, 01:16:53 PM
We are planning a similar holiday. Having been there before, the distance between all 3 is a pita to get around. I'm not a fan of driving and would use the 'super shuttles' to get around. Hawaii is overrated if you live near an Aussie beach. I'd spend more time at the theme parks.
Title: Re: Potential Family holiday to West Coast of America
Post by: tk421 on November 05, 2015, 01:18:06 PM
I agree with your friends. Australian beaches are amongst the best in the world, so unless you're wanting to catch some big waves maybe have a look at something else.   I'd like to do this trip with my kids one day so have looked at a self drive- something like this:

http://www.autotoursusa.com/tours/region/california_and_southwest (http://www.autotoursusa.com/tours/region/california_and_southwest)
or this:
https://www.carrier.co.uk/itineraries/north-america/americas-west/ (https://www.carrier.co.uk/itineraries/north-america/americas-west/)
 or this:
http://www.seduniatravel.com/tours/americas/usa/west-coast-self-drive (http://www.seduniatravel.com/tours/americas/usa/west-coast-self-drive)


Vegas doesn't interest me, and I've heard once you're off the strip its not a nice place. I loved San Francisco - Alcatraz is incredible.  But then I was a 21 year old out for a good time. Not sure Hippy backpackers would be a suitable accommodation..
LA just scares me but I have a friend who goes there for work every so often and loves it.
Title: Re: Potential Family holiday to West Coast of America
Post by: gronk on November 05, 2015, 06:02:16 PM
When we went, we stayed at Woodland Hills...a bit cheaper than in the city area...and drove everywhere.....then drove to Las Vegas ( casino, grand canyon ) then onto Death Valley, Lone Pine, Yosemite, San Fran then back down the coast road to LA ( santa monica, muscle beach ) then San Diego ( seaworld and the aircraft carrier tour ), then onto a cruise to Mexico.

But this was with 2 couples ( no kids ), and if your kids aren't into driving and sightseeing, then they would love a cruise ship !!
Title: Re: Potential Family holiday to West Coast of America
Post by: Titfish on November 05, 2015, 08:06:54 PM
GLenm64,

I managed to get to Yosemite when I was over there and was worried it would not live up to expectations. How wrong I was. It blew me away and I would recommend it to anybody. I've always felt that any city in the would can be replicated but nothing in nature can be. That is why I got out of the cities as fast as I could. The other place that I enjoyed greatly was Mount St Helens but that is probably a bit out of the way when related to the original post.

Yosemite would definitely be on my list.

Ken
Title: Re: Potential Family holiday to West Coast of America
Post by: gordo350 on November 05, 2015, 08:35:02 PM
The drive up to San Francisco from LA is awesome.  Take a couple of days and you will love it. Vegas is definitely not kid friendly and I would never go there again. (been acouple of times). It really is trying to out shock it's own publicity.  Mexico is also not family entertainment.  Driving in LA is not hard. Just indicate and blend. If you annoy someone,  drive like you stole it!
Title: Re: Potential Family holiday to West Coast of America
Post by: UIZ733 on November 05, 2015, 08:44:06 PM
Yes LA is a hole! Yosemite is amazing and almost spiritual. The coastal  drive from San Francisco to LA is excellent. Don't drive when jet lagged, otherwise as gordo said drive it like you stole it and you will be OK. A GPS is a must when driving. One other thing, the place is very expensive.
Title: Re: Potential Family holiday to West Coast of America
Post by: MDS69 on November 05, 2015, 08:59:53 PM
We did 2 weeks in Calafornia in 2012 with then 10 and 7yo. We flew out of Sydney on fathers day. Spent a week in Anaheim with 3 days split between Disneyland and Calafornia Adventure Land. Did a day trip at the factory outlets. Spent time at Downtown Disney. Blew another day beside the pool as it was hot. Another day wandering the strip and Winter garden.
The second week was in San Diego. Sea World, Lego Land, San Diego Zoo.. A day wandering downtown. Spent some time at Seaport Village which is a tourist shopping souviner area with restaurants etc. Did the tour on the USS Midway. Went shopping at Target and Walmart for the experience.

In Anaheim we got around on the ART bus and San Diego by cab, bus and private taxi. Wasn't interested in driving myself.

Weather in September on the west coast was spectacular even a little hot at times. So much more we wanted to do but it was our first time overseas and we know so much more now. Going to Florida for Universal and Disney World in Jan flying out NYD for two weeks with a week in Hawaii on the way home.
Title: Re: Potential Family holiday to West Coast of America
Post by: gronk on November 05, 2015, 09:08:57 PM
.  Mexico is also not family entertainment. 

It is on a cruise ship.....just got back from our 3rd cruise and the kids seemed to like every bit of it....plus some really nice stop overs along the coast.
Title: Re: Potential Family holiday to West Coast of America
Post by: gronk on November 05, 2015, 09:17:43 PM
Going to Florida for Universal

Went there in April.....2 adults, the 2 park pass and front of line upgrade......$470 for the day !!!!!!!     Never again !

BTW, Cape Canaveral was also great !
Title: Re: Potential Family holiday to West Coast of America
Post by: dales133 on November 05, 2015, 09:40:37 PM
Youd be far better off going to singapore/malaysia.
They have universal studios and legoland and a bunch of other places plus the culture and far cheaper.
Exchange rates are more favorable especially in malaysia... we had a great trip thier recently
Title: Re: Potential Family holiday to West Coast of America
Post by: BrettMG on November 05, 2015, 10:19:30 PM
Yes to Disneyland and Universal, both awesome! A big yes to Vegas as well. Went there didn't gamble at all but had a great time. We were there when the annual Elvis convention was on - hilarious. Casinos are much more than gambling. Take the kids to a live show like Cirque Du Soleil or Wayne Newton.
Title: Re: Potential Family holiday to West Coast of America
Post by: madbunny on November 06, 2015, 11:04:13 AM
hi there going to the us in july ,la for a week our kids get to dance in the parade at disney ,vegas for 3 day just to see the sights plus the canyon and now looking at a week in New York because its just a bloody long way with 2 kids ,so santa doesn't bring me my camper now cheers
Title: Re: Potential Family holiday to West Coast of America
Post by: MDS69 on November 06, 2015, 12:40:20 PM
Went there in April.....2 adults, the 2 park pass and front of line upgrade......$470 for the day !!!!!!!     Never again !

BTW, Cape Canaveral was also great !

I don't know what passes we have. All part of the package BUT I think we still need to organise front of line.

Have heard good things about the space centre so thanks for reinforcing that.
Title: Re: Potential Family holiday to West Coast of America
Post by: gronk on November 06, 2015, 02:30:31 PM
I don't know what passes we have. All part of the package BUT I think we still need to organise front of line.

Have heard good things about the space centre so thanks for reinforcing that.

Do some research.....if it's not a busy time front of line won't be needed.

Cape Canaveral was a highlight ( we don't have kids )....there was a launch on our day there....got cancelled with 2 mins to go ( weather )
Title: Re: Potential Family holiday to West Coast of America
Post by: jetcrew on November 06, 2015, 10:57:11 PM
If it were me I would stay at Santa Monica... I have  been there about 30 times in a previous life and it very nice and safe..good base ..San Fran also very nice.

Jet ;D ;D   
Title: Re: Potential Family holiday to West Coast of America
Post by: gronk on November 07, 2015, 09:05:35 AM
If it were me I would stay at Santa Monica... I have  been there about 30 times in a previous life

What, as a dog, cat or a black dude at muscle beach ?????   ;D ;D


Only trouble with Santa Monica is the 1/2 hr plus drive back to LA.
Title: Re: Potential Family holiday to West Coast of America
Post by: Paul (SA) on November 07, 2015, 09:50:39 AM
Hi Beachman - we did this exact trip in March this year. We have two boys 8 and 6 and visited Disneyland, Legoland etc.

My thoughts are to stay to stay in either San Diego or San Francisco and 'visit' Los Angeles. Do a day trip to LA and see the few sites on offer there like Venice Beach and Santa Monica. We loved being in San Francisco - we enjoyed Alcatraz, Fisherman's Wharf, going over the Golden Gate bridge and visiting the Jelly Belly factory. It was a fun city to be in for a few days. We also visited nearby Yosemite NP which was beautiful and a highlight. We could have just as easily stayed in San Diego as well. It is a long drive from LA to Legoland, it is practically in San Diego anyway.

Going in March, we were at the tailend of the snow ski season and it was great to take our boys to the snow for the first time and try skiing. We went to Mountain High, but Yosemite NP has its own ski field as well. It was strange as the weather was really warm in California in March and yet we could still go snow skiing!!??

At Legoland we stayed in the Legoland Hotel - it was about $300 for the night - but it is an experience in itself that our kids thought was the highlight of the whole trip.

I wanted to go for a day trip over to San Diego and head over the border, but time contraints knocked that one on the head.

Depending on the time of year you go, also consider checking out a baseball, basketball or ice hockey game to get a genuine US experience.

If I did the trip again I would fly into San Francisco and stay there a few days and then go down to LA to get your theme park fix and visits the sites for a day. As others have said, the coastal drive to LA is amazing.

Feel free to PM with questions etc.

Cheers, Paul

Title: Re: Potential Family holiday to West Coast of America
Post by: gronk on November 07, 2015, 10:54:25 AM
Only trouble with staying too far from LA is if you want to do 2 theme parks, you need 2 days, plus you need to get to them at opening time to fit them in to the day.

Same as staying at San Fran, we stayed out of town (Mill Valley ) and went in and did a tour ( Around town sites and Alcatraz ). If anyone wants to go to Alcatraz, do not expect to turn up and see it, book well in advance ( we booked 2 mths ahead )

Just work out what you and the kids really want to see. Unless you have a big budget, it's hard to cram everything in.

Title: Re: Potential Family holiday to West Coast of America
Post by: xcvator on November 07, 2015, 07:36:50 PM
If you go and not take the kids to Disneyland they will never,ever forgive you  >:(
For what it's worth, and I have done exactly what you're thinking about, we stayed at the "Tropicana" motel in Annaheim, twice  ;D they have a breakfast of sorts, nothing flash , but it means you're not going to look for something to eat as soon as you get in the gate at DW, it's also within easy walking distance, another +, also check if the kids stay in the same room as you they may stay for free. Allow 3 days to do all the rides etc, you might do them in 2, if so go back and do your favorites again  :cup:
Similar to be said for Universal Studio's, try and work out what you want to see and get a timetable before you go as a lot of the show times overlap. Bus travel time Annaheim to U/S was about 1.5 hours each way

You can do a day trip to Sandiego , it's only about an hour and a half by bus from Annaheim or stay overnight, but if you have been to Seaworld in Qld it's very similar, if you do go spend the extra and do the behind the scenes tour as well.

These are things the little kids and the big kids will both enjoy ( Disneyland aint just for little kids  >:D )

1 of the cheaper ways to go is to get  a "package" that includes D/L tickets/flights/accommodation and extend your stay for as many days as you want.

Trick.  organise your transfers before you go, may not be any cheaper but it's 1 less thing to worry about when you're jet lagged and the kids are ratty at 10am.(it's a 14 hour flight )

Trick.  take lots of US $1-00 notes for tipping ( at least $20-00 for the 1st 2 days)
 
Trick.  take 1 suit case inside another, kids clothing and sneakers are VERY cheap 

Trick.  If there is no breakfast where you stay, find a supermarket and buy a cheap toaster ( $7 to $10 ) bread, butter, spreads, paper plates and plastic knives etc this will save you a fortune ( just don't burn the toast or the smoke alarms will go off  :angel: )

San Fransisco is a beautiful place and very interesting, for adults, not so much for little kids, Bronny and I loved it .

Enjoy planning the trip, it's half the fun  :cheers:


ps I think in September D/L doesn't open until about 10am and closes early but check anyway
 
Title: Re: Potential Family holiday to West Coast of America
Post by: gronk on November 07, 2015, 07:52:42 PM

Trick.  If there is no breakfast where you stay :cheers:


Don't book !!

 There are so many places to stay, only book somewhere with breakfast, so much easier..

We spent 4 weeks going down the east coast ( as well as the west coast 2 yrs ago ) and we would only book a room if they had free breakfast.

When 1st arriving in LA, we prebooked a motel that also had free transfers from the airport...or if hiring a car, prebook it before leaving.
Title: Re: Potential Family holiday to West Coast of America
Post by: oldmate on November 07, 2015, 08:13:03 PM
Can't wait to go back to the states next year..

I would give you advice as to what we did, but as we don't have to allow for children in our plans, it is totally different to what your needs would be. 

I loved LA though, most people I know that have been, or people that talk about it, don't like it?, but we loved it. Did a city day tour, so much history to learn about there, loved walking around Hollywood day and night, we stayed on sunset Blvd., loved Santa Monica pier, and Venice beach. Went up to Malibu.  We also did universal studios which was good. 

Have fun.

Edit,

Agree with previous comments, SeaWorld in San Diego is the same as Gold Coast, only they have a whale there.  We also loved San Diego, spent a few nights there, looking over navy ships, great food in the gas lamp quarter, and went over the border also, ( wouldn't bother doing that again). Can't comment on San Fran, as that is part of our next trip, hopefully.
Title: Re: Potential Family holiday to West Coast of America
Post by: MDS69 on November 07, 2015, 08:31:07 PM
Agree with buying a toaster and plastic plates etc for breakfast on the cheap. Our kids won't eat a cooked breakfast so I wasn't paying big dollars for them to eat toast or cereal. We went to 7/11 and bought milk, cereal, plastic bowls etc as well as a slab of water as far as the comparison of SD sea world with the GC I thought SD sea world was miles better, fantastic rides and shows, remember everything is bigger and better in the US.

3 days at Disneyland and California Adventure land is easy to do.
Title: Re: Potential Family holiday to West Coast of America
Post by: jw2170 on November 07, 2015, 08:50:35 PM
Yes to Disneyland and Universal, both awesome! A big yes to Vegas as well. Went there didn't gamble at all but had a great time. We were there when the annual Elvis convention was on - hilarious. Casinos are much more than gambling. Take the kids to a live show like Cirque Du Soleil or Wayne Newton.

Pretty much agree with Brett...

In 2012 wife and I did a road trip from NY to LA, via Niagara Falls, Detroit, Nashville, Memphis, Mt Rushmore, Yellowstone, Monument Valley and Grand Canyon...Just to mention the major stops......Stayed in Anaheim to visit Disneyland...I did not find driving through LA to be a problem ( I was more frightened in Detroit...LOL).

In 2013 we visited LA again to visit  Universal Studios... Stayed in West Hollywood...that was a mistake...Although travel on the rail/bus system was clean and painless....(and cheap)...

2015, back again to visit Las Vegas.....Back via Hawaii. There is so much entertainment happening ....

Disneyland, Universal Studio and Las Vegas all well worth the trip and would go to all those places again.

Your children will have a ball and so will you...

Oh, and tell the wife to book to bring back 2 cases......she will need it.....VBG.

 

Title: Re: Potential Family holiday to West Coast of America
Post by: gronk on November 07, 2015, 09:42:45 PM
. Our kids won't eat a cooked breakfast so I wasn't paying big dollars for them to eat toast or cereal.

Don't have to......we found hotels that had free breakfast for the same price as ones without..

I've never met a kid that won't have a cooked breakfast ???
Title: Re: Potential Family holiday to West Coast of America
Post by: oldmate on November 08, 2015, 07:22:08 AM
Hey jim, that road trip sounds awesome. Something I would love to do.  How long was the time allowed for that?

Sorry op, bit off track
Title: Re: Potential Family holiday to West Coast of America
Post by: MDS69 on November 08, 2015, 08:15:51 AM
Don't have to......we found hotels that had free breakfast for the same price as ones without..

I've never met a kid that won't have a cooked breakfast ???

Wait until you meet my kids. Seriously think of every item in a cooked breakfast and I can gaurentee the only item they will eat is toast.
My wife and I don't necessarily want a cooked breakfast either as we don't have tyem at home and don't want to end up piling on the kg's.
The hotel in our last package breakfast was extra and I guess we could have requested the travel agent to find one that included it for the same price but as above we didn't want it.
We are staying in Disney World this time and the breakfast package, hot or cold, was extra.
Title: Re: Potential Family holiday to West Coast of America
Post by: gronk on November 08, 2015, 09:14:45 AM
Fair enough.....we booked everything on a budget, from home before we left, which took the missus weeks of searching for the best deals, and me a bit of time on google earth checking all the places out, and for the places we didn't book, we had a list of motels in the general area that would suit ( all with breakfast included, as it was one less thing to worry about for the day ).

We found the easiest way to get around was hiring a car ( Dodge Caravan ), which took more time finding the best deal .

We did 4 weeks on the east coast this year and 1 week on a Caribbean cruise for a total of $12,000 ( 2 adults )
Title: Re: Potential Family holiday to West Coast of America
Post by: MDS69 on November 08, 2015, 10:16:11 AM

We did 4 weeks on the east coast this year and 1 week on a Caribbean cruise for a total of $12,000 ( 2 adults )

Nice effort.
Title: Re: Potential Family holiday to West Coast of America
Post by: jw2170 on November 08, 2015, 11:43:57 AM
Hey jim, that road trip sounds awesome. Something I would love to do.  How long was the time allowed for that?

Sorry op, bit off track

Left Sydney 15/05/2012
6 nights in New York then on road trip.

Did 5105 miles...on the wrong side of the road.....VBG.

Total trip, (including flight days) was 34 days.

Title: Re: Potential Family holiday to West Coast of America
Post by: gronk on November 08, 2015, 01:35:36 PM
Left Sydney 15/05/2012
6 nights in New York then on road trip.

Did 5105 miles...on the wrong side of the road.....VBG.

Total trip, (including flight days) was 34 days.

We left Sydney 18/3/2015

6 nights in New York ( Harlem )

Did approx 4,000 miles..north to Lake Placid, then down the east coast, across to New Orleans then back to Miami.

Total trip ( including a cruise ) was 35 days !
Title: Re: Potential Family holiday to West Coast of America
Post by: xcvator on November 09, 2015, 05:46:08 AM
Is there any possibility that the thread sticks to the original op's question or is that just too much to ask  ???
Title: Re: Potential Family holiday to West Coast of America
Post by: Beachman on November 09, 2015, 08:07:49 AM
Hi All,

Thanks for everyone feedback and while I personally don’t like LA, this trip is all about the kids and theme parks. So for example Disneyland we want to stay within walking distance so we can come and go during the day.

With the Australian dollar going pear shaped booking a USA holiday probably isn’t the wisest financial decision, but seeing this will be the kids first plane trip and the fact if we put it off any longer my eldest will be at the age Disneyland isn’t cool. So it’s either now or never.

In regards to the cruise idea I personally like that idea, but my Wife hates the idea of being stuck on a boat so I will probably never experience a cruise.

Also great tip in regards to buying a toaster/plastic plates as having to buy 3 meals per day quickly adds up.

Thanks
Title: Re: Potential Family holiday to West Coast of America
Post by: gronk on November 09, 2015, 08:17:06 AM
Is there any possibility that the thread sticks to the original op's question or is that just too much to ask  ???

If someone is going to delete posts, delete all the offending posts.....which means this one as well, even though it has been cleaned up from the rubbish it had in before !!

If this person thinks he has the right to throw in an offensive post, maybe he can apply to be a moderator ??