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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: Bill on October 10, 2015, 08:57:37 AM
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Here is the situation.
My best Mate wants to build a cage, battery box and rack (for a roof top tent) on the back of his tray back Patrol.
He has neither the tools, materials nor the know how.
I have the tools and most of the materials and know how and am more than happy to volunteer my time to build it at my place.
I want to get started at 8:00 am
He doesnt want to do anything before 10:00 am
My questions is, since its my place, tools, materials, knowledge and time shouldnt he be at my place to start when I want to start?
I can guarentee if I was the one getting help I would be where I was told to be, when I was told to be there.
Or am I expecting to much?
Bill
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If you were doing me a favour I'd expect to work to your schedule, within reason. Has he got something on at that time? Kids sport etc?
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If he's too lazy to get off his arse, then stuff him......
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i would work to your schedule as much as i could
but wouldn't blame you if you went on a smoko break from say 10 am till 12 pm, don't forget the do not disturb sign.
:cheers:
Adam
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If you were doing me a favour I'd expect to work to your schedule, within reason. Has he got something on at that time? Kids sport etc?
X2
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What ^^^ they said :)
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I want to get started at 8:00 am
Bill
That's afternoon shift. >:D
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Maybe he has fly his drone before the wind comes up?
I used to find waterskiing better first thing in the morning when the lake was calm.
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If you were doing me a favour I'd expect to work to your schedule, within reason. Has he got something on at that time? Kids sport etc?
No, its just the way he is.
Bill
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No, its just the way he is.
Bill
Well then, that's not a good start. Will probably end in tears, so maybe be best to pull out and still be mates.
KB
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I have this same drama with some mates. Best to run to your timetable or you will have the dirts the whole time. Explain your situation to him. Don't be afraid to pull out to avoid conflict.
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I have this same drama with some mates. Best to run to your timetable or you will have the dirts the whole time. Explain your situation to him. Don't be afraid to pull out to avoid conflict.
No, it is just the way he is...
+1.
If HE is not prepared to work with his mates, that is his problem and may be why he finds it hard to find someone to help him.....
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+2
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Considering where you live I would want to start as early as possible, and take a break through the hot part of the day, and then resume later in the afternoon.
Starting at 10am just sounds stupid. Tell him you are on double time (ie, twice as many beers) if you start that late.
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I agree with all of the above. The one doing the work sets the timetable, especially at mates rates.
By the way, where do you live as I could do with a bit of help, and I turn up on time? ;D ;D
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Would not be my mate for long with that attitude.. >:D >:D >:D
My 65yo neighbors are having a horrid time with drugos on the far side of them, they asked if I could help them build a fence as $$$ tight. I layed out the time sheduale, the exact things they needed to get and when we were going to do it. they complied with it all no questions asked and they got a new fence in a day ...all finished... and limited stuffing around for me. neighbour said they will 100% work around my sheduale and make sure to be avail when I had time. this to me shows a level of respect for the person helping you .
In your case it would seem your building the whole thing anyway and sounds like your assistant might be better off making scones with the ladies after morning tea ;D ;D ;D
You make the rules not him.. infact I would make it 7am just to see if he is actually committed to it or not ...some people these days.
jet ;D
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You make the rules not him.. infact I would make it 7am just to see if he is actually committed to it or not ...some people these days.
jet ;D
Nope still afternoon shift >:D
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Wouldn't touch the job with a barge pole if that was his attitude.
I would describe him as 'an acquaintance'. ;D
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If you have a vacancy for a mate and you can build things like that, is it ok to submit my Resume, I can turn up whatever time you say ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
j :D
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Agree.... in your timing as you are the one helping him..... I'm sure if it was an urgent task he would be turning up early!!!
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Would not be my mate for long with that attitude.. >:D >:D >:D
My 65yo neighbors are having a horrid time with drugos on the far side of them, they asked if I could help them build a fence as $$$ tight. I layed out the time sheduale, the exact things they needed to get and when we were going to do it. they complied with it all no questions asked and they got a new fence in a day ...all finished... and limited stuffing around for me. neighbour said they will 100% work around my sheduale and make sure to be avail when I had time. this to me shows a level of respect for the person helping you .
In your case it would seem your building the whole thing anyway and sounds like your assistant might be better off making scones with the ladies after morning tea ;D ;D ;D
You make the rules not him.. infact I would make it 7am just to see if he is actually committed to it or not ...some people these days.
jet ;D
What is this "respect" thing you speak of???? ??? ??? ???
Oh and Bill - get a new mate....
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If it was me I would just say to him: On this day we will work from 8am to say Midday. After then I have stuff to. Stick to YOUR schedule, along with the others if someone wants my complete help like this. Otherwise get stuffed.
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The mere fact you have to post about this makes him someone you know, not a mate.
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If you have a vacancy for a mate and you can build things like that, is it ok to submit my Resume, I can turn up whatever time you say ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
j :D
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I get up pretty early. Honest
If pigs could fly... Imagine how good their wings would taste.
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Now you See why I don't have mates
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Now you See why I don't have mates
awwww c'mon mate;D
Which is why I live in mexico....
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Do we know why he can't be there until 10am, he may have a legit reason, ask him.
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Do we know why he can't be there until 10am, he may have a legit reason, ask him.
He was at the pub with Mates which is his usual Friday night.
He did ruck up at 9:00 which was better than 10.
I did explain the way it would be from now on and he agreed.
I asked the question on here just to be sure I was not being unreasonable.
He is my best mate and other than enjoying a lie in of a morning I cant fault him.
Bill
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He was at the pub with Mates which is his usual Friday night.
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Not a valid reason IMO.
If he wanted the job done, surely he could forego it for one night.
:cheers:
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Not unreasonable. If he wants something done at mates rates he needs to be the mate that turns up when needed. Or send him to canopy builder
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He is my best mate and other than enjoying a lie in of a morning I cant fault him.
Bill
Even better if adult cuddles are included. ;D
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He was at the pub with Mates which is his usual Friday night.
He did ruck up at 9:00 which was better than 10.
I did explain the way it would be from now on and he agreed.
I asked the question on here just to be sure I was not being unreasonable.
He is my best mate and other than enjoying a lie in of a morning I cant fault him.
Bill
Bit of a poor excuse, could have understood if it was a serious matter. At least you have since sorted it but I agree if you ask for help you keep the agreed times
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I spent the morning vaccumming the shed which I have been putting off for a week, so the hour delay was not a total loss.
I have Bens word that any help from myself is strictly on my time schedule.
Thank you for your input folks.
If anyone is wondering, 6 hours after we started plan A we found it wouldnt work.
The dimensions the supplier provided were not any where near correct.
Hopefully plan B will be a success...
Bill
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He is my best mate and other than enjoying a lie in of a morning I cant fault him.
Bill
Great to see you helping mates out and that reflects on your character. Best mates are best mates for a reason and not everyone is perfect which helps the world go round.
I have a few mates but only two I consider best mates and they both live 2-3 hours away in different directions so hang on to the ones you have faults and all.
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Glad to see that "common sense" has prevailed and you still have a mate.... :cheers:
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So how did it go Bill? Did you have a win?
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So how did it go Bill? Did you have a win?
Plan B was put on hold because the steel shop is closed Sundays.
My next day off is not until Tuesday next week so should see the steel work done then,
Then it is off to the canvas mob.
Once it is back we will start the battery box, place fridges, install the water tank etc etc.
I will try to get pictures.
Bill