Post by: robbo1172 on October 06, 2015, 06:29:36 PM
Thanks, Robbo...
rockfactor.com.au
Post by: oldmate on October 06, 2015, 06:34:12 PM
Post by: Humphreythebear on October 06, 2015, 06:37:20 PM
Post by: D4D on October 06, 2015, 06:38:42 PM
Post by: austastar on October 06, 2015, 06:38:58 PM
Hose.
Cheers
Post by: time on October 06, 2015, 06:41:00 PM
Post by: Marschy on October 06, 2015, 06:48:19 PM
Post by: JD-120 on October 06, 2015, 06:55:23 PM
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQMCPTtbA_2sDgZZLe_EJQV114lbitTGLMWUFLSV7UrI3x2O2G7MA)
Post by: grc on October 06, 2015, 07:03:10 PM
No noise
Post by: Bad Scott on October 06, 2015, 07:14:13 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAAruGtX8bA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAAruGtX8bA)
Post by: 4wd26 on October 06, 2015, 07:23:17 PM
I would imagine quite expensive as aimed at corporations business etc
Could log the gps on the drone and also trace the location of the controller
Or there is also available special ammo (shotgun pellets) designed to take out a drone and its electrics
Post by: achjimmy on October 06, 2015, 07:29:14 PM
Post by: woftam on October 06, 2015, 08:02:37 PM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v33/woftam/drone-alm.jpg)
I like this one
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v33/woftam/Speeder_Bike_Quadcopter_Remote_Controlled.jpg)
Post by: kylarama on October 06, 2015, 08:23:17 PM
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Post by: Troopy_03 on October 06, 2015, 09:05:40 PM
Practice casting with your surf rod?
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I'd go for a nice carbon fibre spinning rod, loaded with 20lb braid, a wire trace and a 6/0 treble hook with the points clipped off just behind the barb.
On second thoughts, bugger that, get a paint ball gun. ;D
Post by: RallyDog on October 06, 2015, 09:21:08 PM
Post by: edz on October 06, 2015, 10:01:17 PM
Or for more fun https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NaQBvfEGMU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NaQBvfEGMU)
Post by: Jason B on October 06, 2015, 10:29:55 PM
Post by: UIZ733 on October 07, 2015, 07:52:31 AM
Post by: Bird on October 07, 2015, 07:57:04 AM
Can be made in 20 mins.
https://youtu.be/0M5wmDNEsME/ (https://youtu.be/0M5wmDNEsME/)
Or Marshmallow canon... ;)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZfy5GOy3wE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZfy5GOy3wE)
If people are going to invade your privacy, cost them some money while at it.
Post by: Marschy on October 07, 2015, 08:34:38 AM
1. Have you any evidence that the 'drone' was being used to invade someones privacy.
2. Unless the OP can provide evidence to the contrary there is nothing in this thread to suggest illegal use of a 'drone' other than his opinion.
My opinion is tainted somewhat, owning 5 of these aircraft in different guises. But the upshot is this, if someone wants to invade your privacy they are going to do it whether they own a 'drone' or not. It would be a damn sight less expensive for one, and for a more important reason, who the hell would want to take snapshots of any of you ugly bastards anyway.
Post by: Bobsan on October 07, 2015, 08:57:53 AM
Post by: Marschy on October 07, 2015, 09:20:44 AM
Just checking your house out for security?Wouldn't it be easier to simply walk past the house and check what camera's or security it has? My vision is pretty shoddy, but it works at lot better than a board camera, the likes of which gives video quality equal to what you see on those crime shows of footage from petrol station video cameras. i.e crap.
The thing that is pissing me off here, is the implication for all who read this BS thread is that people who own 'drones' are perverts and peeping toms and thieves. Personally that is not why I got into the hobby, but perhaps if these thoughts spring to your minds so easily, it may be best if you leave flying quadcopters and the like to people who are putting them to better use.
Post by: whitedg on October 07, 2015, 09:33:45 AM
If one is flying around, a hose, net, string, fishing line, etc... can be used to knock it down. Basically anything that will get tangled in the props will bring it down. I've seen one taken down by someone throwing a t-shirt at it which caught a prop. Once you have it in your possession, secure it and call the :police:. When the person comes looking for it, send them to the :police: station.
Having said that, it should be flown within line of sight, so the operator would need to be around. They could be flying it by FPV, so hiding around the corner somewhere.
Generally, if they see you getting close to knocking it down, chances are they will move on and leave you alone. They won't want to risk losing their drone to you.
I have a couple of drones/tri-copter and I make sure to never let it out of my yard. It's always more fun and safer to fly it in a registered model aircraft flying area anyway.
Cheers
whitedg
Post by: Bird on October 07, 2015, 09:35:03 AM
Quote from: Marschy
I'm more concerned with the vigilante mentality going on here more than someone flying a 'drone'. Here are some questions for you.it was in his front yard...
1. Have you any evidence that the 'drone' was being used to invade someones privacy.
2. Unless the OP can provide evidence to the contrary there is nothing in this thread to suggest illegal use of a 'drone' other than his opinion.
Quote from: robbo1172
Just had a drone in our front yard at about roof height.
Good way for scrotes to see if people are home or not, and how their home security is setup, what expensive goodies are in their back yard without being locked up etc without said scrote even leaving their front porch...
Post by: Fizzie on October 07, 2015, 09:36:56 AM
I have no problem with RC anything & don't regard drone fliers as perverts (well, as a general rule anyway :D) but as Robbo put it: "Just had a drone in our front yard at about roof height."
Do you, as a drone owner, often buzz your neighbour's yard at roof height? I'm fairly certain that no you wouldn't, same as licensed shooters don't shoot up the neighbourhood. Same as everything, problems are caused by irresponsible people who don't care about doing the right thing >:(
There's a big park just round the corner from us & there's often people there with drones / RC aircraft & we often stop & watch them buzzing around cause it looks like (bloody expensive :D) fun.
But if we had one frequently buzzing low round our house, I'd start by complaining to whoever & if nothing was done, I'd "investigate" further options :police:
The cast net idea sounds best >:D
Graeme
Post by: Marschy on October 07, 2015, 09:43:08 AM
it was in his front yard...FFS, now we are scrotes as well. Did it ever occur to you to check you manners at the door before you push the 'Post' button?
Good way for scrotes to see if people are home or not, and how their home security is setup, what expensive goodies are in their back yard without being locked up etc without said scrote even leaving their front porch...
Post by: Darcy7 on October 07, 2015, 09:48:20 AM
I'd be going for a walk to see if I could find the operator. They wouldn't be too far away. If they have a camera and can see you even pointing a hose at their craft, I reckon they would bug off pretty quickly.
Look...it could be as innocent as some kid with a new toy or it could be someone with more sinister intentions. Either way it shouldn't be there and I would try to talk to the owner reasonably to find out what the go is and to recommend quite strongly that what they are doing is against the law.
Post by: Bird on October 07, 2015, 10:17:14 AM
Quote from: Marschy
FFS, now we are scrotes as well. Did it ever occur to you to check you manners at the door before you push the 'Post' button?
So your a criminal trying to view peoples places without them knowing it so you can rob them??
No didn't think so...
Post by: time on October 07, 2015, 10:33:48 AM
I think someone in this thread douth protest too much .....
Post by: Marschy on October 07, 2015, 10:53:13 AM
... so I have a camera and I wonder around your house taking pics, in your back yard, on to your roof, through your open windows ...... that should be OK?Where was there any suggestion that this 'drone' has a camera. I think someone in this thread assumes too much. Maybe it did, maybe it didn't, But like I said before, if someone want's to take photos through open windows, they don't need a drone to do it. Have you heard how much noise a quadcopter makes? People that are inclined to peek through peoples windows will do it whether they have a 'drone' or not. But the assumption is in this thread is, "oh there is a 'drone' out the front of my house, they must be up to no good, I must destroy it" and then other people jumping on the band wagon suggesting ways you could do it, well, I find that more disturbing than someone flying a drone out the front of my house.
I think someone in this thread douth protest too much .....
Post by: Bird on October 07, 2015, 11:07:22 AM
Quote from: Marschy
and then other people jumping on the band wagon suggesting ways you could do it, well, I find that more disturbing than someone flying a drone out the front of my house.that's cause your a Drone fan... most of us couldn't give a Shit about them and see it with both eyes open.
Post by: Marschy on October 07, 2015, 11:12:18 AM
that's cause your a Drone fan... most of us couldn't give a Shit about them and see it with both eyes open.Nope, not a fan of 'drones' at all. I'm a fan of aerial videography and photography using quadcopters, not peeping through peoples windows. So because your not a fan we have to listen to this drivel, educate yourself on people who use drones and stop acting like a sheep.
Post by: Bird on October 07, 2015, 11:31:03 AM
Quote from: Marschy
. So because your not a fan we have to listen to this drivel, educate yourself on people who use drones and stop acting like a sheep.so cause your a fan of aerial videography and photography using quadcopters that means nobody could be using them for criminal activity?
Maybe you should read into the peoples concerns... that be 'I'd be looking for the owner and having words'.. or 'I'd shoot the **** out of the sky'... they point to the same concerns...
Because you don't break the law with them (and reading the drone thread, you seem to know this Shit inside out), doesn't mean Shit loads of others haven't cottoned onto it (then again most crim's probably wouldn't have the IQ to work out how it all works or be ).
It also doesn't mean that in this case it was an illegal gig happening, but it may well have been.
YMMV...
Post by: scblack on October 07, 2015, 11:33:24 AM
Nope, not a fan of 'drones' at all. I'm a fan of aerial videography and photography using quadcopters, not peeping through peoples windows. So because your not a fan we have to listen to this drivel, educate yourself on people who use drones and stop acting like a sheep.People in here are complaining about a drone in the FRONT YARD. If one turns up out the front of my place, expect me it to get anything at hand to throw at it and knock it down.
No one is bitching about what you do - except you.
I think you need to read between the lines here - people do not like them, and are very suspicious of people using them anywhere near them. Maybe you don't in which you have nothing to worry about - but if they are around people's property expect them to take a dim view.
Post by: Marschy on October 07, 2015, 11:34:19 AM
so cause your a fan of aerial videography and photography using quadcopters that means nobody could be using them for criminal activity?Using that analogy, I could assume that because you like taking photos of models that you are a pervert, but then again I could be wrong, but your avatar suggests not.
Maybe you should read into the peoples concerns... that be 'I'd be looking for the owner and having words'.. or 'I'd shoot the **** out of the sky'... they point to the same concerns...
Because you don't break the law with them (and reading the drone thread, you seem to know this Shit inside out), doesn't mean Shit loads of others haven't cottoned onto it (then again most crim's probably wouldn't have the IQ to work out how it all works or be ).
It also doesn't mean that in this case it was an illegal gig happening, but it may well have been.
YMMV...
Post by: Bird on October 07, 2015, 11:53:27 AM
People in here are complaining about a drone in the FRONT YARD. If one turns up out the front of my place, expect me it to get anything at hand to throw at it and knock it down.Save your breath.. all drone users are angels and there is no way possible that anybody on earth could use them for criminal activity.
No one is bitching about what you do - except you.
I think you need to read between the lines here - people do not like them, and are very suspicious of people using them anywhere near them. Maybe you don't in which you have nothing to worry about - but if they are around people's property expect them to take a dim view.
(https://wadevenden.files.wordpress.com/2014/07/head_in_sand.jpg)
Post by: Marschy on October 07, 2015, 12:21:58 PM
Save your breath.. all drone users are angels and there is no way possible that anybody on earth could use them for criminal activity.Nope, it's more a case of, some people are 'glass half full', others are 'glass half empty'. It's great when you can whip people up by using BS analogies and assuming the worst, but then again the OP could have gone out and found out why the 'drone' was in his front yard, but he didn't.
(https://wadevenden.files.wordpress.com/2014/07/head_in_sand.jpg)
I and others on the quadcopter thread are well aware of the opposition to quadcopters, unfortunately threads like this don't help. We are also aware of people using quadcopters for illegal activities, but so do the drivers of cars, users of computers and users of cameras on phones. But the use of quadcopters seems to draw negative views far out of proportion to the amount of illegal use that has been reported. This is because the word 'drone' has been linked to quadcopters. As of this minute I am not aware of any quadcopter delivering a lethal payload.
Post by: oldmate on October 07, 2015, 12:38:00 PM
But, have a read back, and the only person that has said all drone owners are perverts and crim's is you. Nobody at all said that and you seem to have taken it a bit personal and loaded the gun for everyone to keep firing shots.
I have no problems with drones or their owners, but if I found one hovering in my yard a would be asking questions.
Maybe robbo is hot? Have you met him?
Lol
Post by: Marschy on October 07, 2015, 12:41:52 PM
Marschy, I think you are taking this a bit personal mate! I own a patrol, doesn't make me a bogan like other patrol own.... Ok bad example.I'm not taking this personally at all. No-one has asked the OP what he did to find out why the quad was in his front yard, everyone has assumed the worst. I find that this is just a sign of the times. If you want to whip up a lynch mob, just ask a few individuals on this forum and they are happy to oblige.
But, have a read back, and the only person that has said all drone owners are perverts and crim's is you. Nobody at all said that and you seem to have taken it a bit personal and loaded the gun for everyone to keep firing shots.
I have no problems with drones or their owners, but if I found one hovering in my yard a would be asking questions.
Maybe robbo is hot? Have you met him?
Lol
And I beg to differ, the implication is there for anyone to read, checking out the security, invading privacy. Those are comments made by others, not me.
Post by: Beachman on October 07, 2015, 12:51:54 PM
Then if that didn’t work then the fishing rod comes out.
Post by: woftam on October 07, 2015, 01:07:51 PM
Why ? Simply because it’s my front yard. I have the, probably naive, belief that I have some sort of say in who/what enters my property outside of those who have legal access (meter readers etc).
I would react to it as I would to someone’s dog entering my front yard. The reason it’s there is utterly benign but it’s my front yard and I don’t want it there. So I look for the owner to ask them to remove it. If I can’t find the owner then I chase it off the property or catch it and take it to the pound.
In the case of a quad copter chasing it off may be a little more problematical. The same as I wouldn’t deliberately injure a dog I wouldn’t necessarily intentionally damage the device. However I would assume with either line of sight or FPV the operator could see me getting the Karcher ready and test firing off to the side to make sure I had sufficient range. If this doesn’t cause it to be moved along then I would attempt to bring it down and then off to the copshop.
Post by: robbo1172 on October 07, 2015, 01:11:43 PM
Yes it had a camera.
Yes I'm hot.
Yes there's a park at the end of our street 100m away they can fly it in.
We have a staffy in our back yard and they are being pinched from around here for dog fights.
I walked out the front yard and thought "what's that noise?" and it was a drone literally 8 to 10 metres from me at gutter level. As soon as I walked out it legged it...
Like anything 99% of the time it's all above board and good fun, but should I wait until my dogs gone or my CT (which I park out the back out of sight) until I do something about it?
Hopefully it's a one off but I will be keeping my eyes open...
Robbo...
rockfactor.com.au
Post by: UIZ733 on October 07, 2015, 01:20:49 PM
If you want to whip up a lynch mob, just ask a few individuals on this forum and they are happy to oblige.I am not part of any mob Lynch sponsored by here or anywhere else, and resent the suggested of being implicated in this kind of scenario. However if there is a drone in my space, that I consider a threat, I reserve the right to deal with it as Frank Sinatra has, 'My Way'.
Post by: Bird on October 07, 2015, 01:22:45 PM
Quote from: robbo1172
... and it was a drone literally 8 to 10 metres from me at gutter level. As soon as I walked out it legged it...
yea sounds totally innocent to me... move on, nothing to see here. It was the local Mormons looking for front doors.
Post by: tk421 on October 07, 2015, 01:50:40 PM
?You may NOT fly closer than 30m to vehicles, boats, buildings that are not on YOUR private property or you must have explicit permission from the private property owner.
?You are NOT allowed to fly over any populated areas such as beaches, other people’s backyards, heavily populated parks or sports ovals where there is a game on.
?You may NOT operate within a RADIUS of 5.5km of any aerodrome, airfield, airport, seaplanes taking off or landing, helicopter landing sites which may be located at hospitals, police stations or other locations that you may not be aware of. It is YOUR responsibility to find out where they are and ignorance is no defense in the court of law.
?You may ONLY operate during DAYLIGHT – NO night flying! Only in good weather and you MUST be in visual-line-of-site of the Remotely Piloted Aircraft – RPA.
?You may NOT fly above 400ft (123m)
?You may NOT fly FPV !!
This guy got an $850 fine:
http://www.news.com.au/technology/gadgets/qld-man-first-in-australia-to-be-fined-for-flying-a-drone/story-fnda1lbo-1227196644698 (http://www.news.com.au/technology/gadgets/qld-man-first-in-australia-to-be-fined-for-flying-a-drone/story-fnda1lbo-1227196644698)
I've got no time for idiots who break the rules. If the drone hits someone it can cause some serious damage. If one hit one of my kids in the garden I'd sue the arse off them.
Post by: robbo1172 on October 07, 2015, 01:59:26 PM
Robbo...
rockfactor.com.au
Post by: Swannie on October 07, 2015, 02:13:23 PM
Marschy, I think you are taking this a bit personal mate! I own a patrol, doesn't make me a bogan like other patrol own....
Um....Yes it does >:D
swannie
Post by: Swannie on October 07, 2015, 02:14:55 PM
Swannie
Post by: Bird on October 07, 2015, 02:16:25 PM
Quote from: swannie
Look I understand Birds concerns... if I was him I would be worried that a photo or video would get taken of him in his own home...He gets up to some weird s$%twheres the love.. actually, wheres me drone... I can watch you at the office from here.... :cup: :police: :police: :cup:
Swannie
Post by: gronk on October 07, 2015, 02:39:35 PM
?You may NOT fly FPV !!
This one has me stumped ??
Post by: Green rv on October 07, 2015, 02:55:55 PM
This one has me stumped ??
FPV
ford performance vehicle
Post by: tk421 on October 07, 2015, 02:56:35 PM
This one has me stumped ??
I believe that you need to hold a UAV operators cert to pilot as FPV (First person View) otherwise you have to be able to see it with your own eyes at all times. I think you can fly FPV as long as you have a second operator who maintains eye contact with the UAV. FPV means where there is a camera that feeds to googles or similar that you use to fly
https://www.casa.gov.au/operations/standard-page/model-aircraft-and-rpa (https://www.casa.gov.au/operations/standard-page/model-aircraft-and-rpa)
https://www.casa.gov.au/sites/g/files/net351/f/_assets/main/lib100071/flying_with_control_model.pdf (https://www.casa.gov.au/sites/g/files/net351/f/_assets/main/lib100071/flying_with_control_model.pdf)
Model aircraft
- You should only fly a model aircraft in visual line-of-sight, in day visual meteorological conditions (VMC). What does that mean? no night flying
no flying in or through cloud or fog, and
you should be able to see the aircraft with your own eyes (rather than through its point-of-view camera) at all times
Post by: Bad Scott on October 07, 2015, 02:58:23 PM
Look I understand Birds concerns... if I was him I would be worried that a photo or video would get taken of him in his own home...He gets up to some weird s$%t:cup: :cup: :cup:
Swannie
Post by: Goose on October 07, 2015, 03:26:13 PM
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2015/07/kentucky-man-shoots-down-drone-hovering-over-his-backyard/ (http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2015/07/kentucky-man-shoots-down-drone-hovering-over-his-backyard/)
http://imgur.com/gallery/oSGNZjq (http://imgur.com/gallery/oSGNZjq)
There are some interesting view points from both sides, such as:
risks of discharging firearm in residential area
wanton destruction of property
was the drone recording or not and proving this after its destroyed
can the camera in a drone really take adequate footage for spying
proving the drone actually flew over or near your house, and altering flight paths / flight plans after the fact
proving privacy invasion etc
will you get bashed by the owner (and his mates) when they come looking for their drone
Post by: robbo1172 on October 07, 2015, 03:29:21 PM
Robbo...
rockfactor.com.au
Post by: tk421 on October 07, 2015, 04:03:37 PM
If you're interested in this topic (shooting down drones) then you may enjoy these articles and the associated comments.
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2015/07/kentucky-man-shoots-down-drone-hovering-over-his-backyard/ (http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2015/07/kentucky-man-shoots-down-drone-hovering-over-his-backyard/)
http://imgur.com/gallery/oSGNZjq (http://imgur.com/gallery/oSGNZjq)
There are some interesting view points from both sides, such as:
risks of discharging firearm in residential area
wanton destruction of property
was the drone recording or not and proving this after its destroyed
can the camera in a drone really take adequate footage for spying
proving the drone actually flew over or near your house, and altering flight paths / flight plans after the fact
proving privacy invasion etc
will you get bashed by the owner (and his mates) when they come looking for their drone
You don't actually have many rights to privacy when it comes to photographs. In Australia the taking and publication of a person's photograph, without their consent or knowledge but within some limitations is not an invasion of privacy, nor is it in contravention of case or statute law.
http://www.artslaw.com.au/info-sheets/info-sheet/street-photographers-rights/ (http://www.artslaw.com.au/info-sheets/info-sheet/street-photographers-rights/)
"There are no publicity or personality rights in Australia, and there is no right to privacy that protects a person’s image. Existing privacy laws are more concerned with storage and management of personal information and are of limited relevance to the present issue."
"There is no restriction on taking photographs of people on private property from public property. According to Victoria Park Racing and Recreation Grounds Co Ltd v Taylor (1937) there is no freedom from view, so people who are photographed on their property from a public location have no legal claim against you if what is captured in the photograph can be seen from the street. The same applies to photographs taken from private land when you have permission to take photographs. You should be careful that you are not being a nuisance and interfering with someone’s right to use and enjoy the land (see the case of Bathurst City Council v Saban (1985))."
Post by: oldmate on October 07, 2015, 04:05:36 PM
Um....Yes it does >:D
swannie
Yeah, that's why I said bad example ;) :)
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on October 07, 2015, 04:13:20 PM
Robbo's hot..... that cracked me up.
As for the drone, yep, knock the turd of a thing to the ground then back over it a few times.... ooops, sooooorrry.
Here's ya drone back.
If the owner of said drone carries on, knock the turd of a thing to the ground, but maybe not back over him... ok.
Screw ringing the cops, our cop shop only opens three days a week anyway.
Post by: robbo1172 on October 07, 2015, 04:39:50 PM
rockfactor.com.au
Post by: Fathom on October 07, 2015, 05:17:30 PM
I would guess if a drone was in my front yard I would try my hardest to follow it and then have a chat with the owners about why their drone was up near my house. I might have to run 100-200 metres. But they still have to get their drone, pack it, get in their vehicle/hide etc.
Or build your own mini EMP...
:)
If pigs could fly... Imagine how good their wings would taste.
Post by: BaseCamp on October 07, 2015, 05:55:07 PM
I trespass onto a stranger's front lawn at their home; and gawk through her front window...
Option 2...
I send my $%#& Drone onto her property - it also has eyes (video equipped) - and I have a gawk through her front window...
... yeah - why did its (responsible law abiding drone owner) fly it onto private property (and very close to the poster's home)??
Thus "my intent" is the same...
WHAT THE FREAK - was that drone doing at the roof line of the poster's home??
Nah - its bullshxt -- somehow smash the falker out of the air - if possible...
... if it looks like a duck; and quacks like a duck; and smells like a duck - its a duck; okay?
I am sure there are some responsible drone users out there - but a quick look on you tube shows plenty examples of drone miss use...
Footnote 1
# I do not own a drone
Footnote 2
# The preceding is intended to show the irony of the "protests of innocence" .. from the drone-lover(s)...
Post by: GeoffA on October 07, 2015, 06:04:16 PM
Yeah, that's why I said bad example ;) :)
:cup:
Post by: Marschy on October 07, 2015, 06:13:27 PM
Option 1..Wow, what a conclusive scenario you have painted. And all of that gathered from the same information I read by the OP, yet I can't for the life of me arrive at the same conclusion, why? Because your embelishments bear little resemblence to the picture I see given the information we have all been provided. But don't let that stop you, I love a good story, please tell us more.
I trespass onto a stranger's front lawn at their home; and gawk through her front window...
Option 2...
I send my $%#& Drone onto her property - it also has eyes (video equipped) - and I have a gawk through her front window...
... yeah - why did its (responsible law abiding drone owner) fly it onto private property (and very close to the poster's home)??
Thus "my intent" is the same...
WHAT THE FREAK - was that drone doing at the roof line of the poster's home??
Nah - its bullshxt -- somehow smash the falker out of the air - if possible...
... if it looks like a duck; and quacks like a duck; and smells like a duck - its a duck; okay?
I am sure there are some responsible drone users out there - but a quick look on you tube shows plenty examples of drone miss use...
Footnote 1
# I do not own a drone
Footnote 2
# The preceding is intended to show the irony of the "protests of innocence" .. from the drone-lover(s)...
Post by: Swannie on October 07, 2015, 06:19:07 PM
Swannie
Post by: oldmate on October 07, 2015, 06:57:06 PM
I love drones when I see the word it reminds me of scones :)
Swannie
Mmmmm scones, jam and cream
Post by: GeoffA on October 07, 2015, 06:58:54 PM
All gone now...... ;D ;D
Post by: oldmate on October 07, 2015, 07:13:21 PM
My lovely made a batch tonight.
All gone now...... ;D ;D
Yeah I was think about doing the same now, might get the whip out.
Post by: gordo350 on October 07, 2015, 07:16:50 PM
Post by: Bill on October 07, 2015, 07:40:02 PM
Leather or cream?Use one to get the other...
Bill
Post by: robbo1172 on October 07, 2015, 07:48:24 PM
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Post by: oldmate on October 07, 2015, 08:30:38 PM
Use one to get the other...
Bill
Bingo!!
Post by: robbo1172 on October 07, 2015, 08:33:20 PM
Bingo!!
I love that game but I can't remember what to tell out when I win... (Homer Simpson)
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Post by: stiffbreeze on October 07, 2015, 08:34:32 PM
Understand people's concern about privacy and yes there's a lot of idiots out there who operates drones (and cars, motorbikes, jet skis like others have mentioned) and set a bad stereotype example, but there are also great operators too!
For us drone operators who want to do the right thing and learn the rules as a hobbiest, or go pro and get our casa licence so we register flight plans and legally fly where we need to do our work, it's scary how many people are willing to take matters into their own hands and smash/destroy our business property without getting their facts right first, and sadly sometimes threads like this encourage that kind of behaviour when people don't self educate.
Legally if we are allowed to be there and can prove height and gps coordinates as per flight plan lodged with casa, we can and will sue for damages to our craft and loss of income etc. Interesting hey?
Have I opened up a can of worms again? Probably. Will this generate more kill and destroy responses? Probably. But I like the responses about the scones better.
Robbo - sounds crap that someone is flying on your property without permission and totally agree that finding the operator and talking to them is the best policy to ensure it doesn't happen again. Flying so close to the house ain't cool and something I don't condone.
At the end of the day, I would hate for our professional drone to be destroyed by some moron who chose to act and destroy our property, when we had every right to be there in the first place.
Just another voice/opinion to consider.
Ok cheers.
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Post by: robbo1172 on October 07, 2015, 08:47:53 PM
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Post by: macca on October 07, 2015, 08:51:31 PM
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Post by: Swannie on October 07, 2015, 08:57:40 PM
What I can't understand with this thread is, from what is reported here it is illegal to fly a drone within 30 metres of a house so the person flying the drone was breaking the law, doesnt that make him a knob or whatever else he has been called here and isn't that the end of the story.:cup:
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Post by: time on October 07, 2015, 09:04:11 PM
Actually surprising to know then that Australia's CASA is actually one of the strictist governing bodies worldwide of drone operations compared to America's FAA etc. Considering the advancement of drone technology though, it does still have a long way to go.
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Post by: oldmate on October 07, 2015, 09:30:05 PM
What I can't understand with this thread is, from what is reported here it is illegal to fly a drone within 30 metres of a house so the person flying the drone was breaking the law, doesnt that make him a knob or whatever else he has been called here and isn't that the end of the story.
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So you like scones too?
Post by: oldmate on October 07, 2015, 09:45:33 PM
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on October 08, 2015, 04:02:12 AM
1 - 2 - 3 (that's me thinking) nah, i'd still do my best to drop it to the ground and smash the crap out of it.
And hey, even if it means a get a smack in the head for my efforts, then so be it.
Win, lose or draw, the drone user will know he's been in a scuffle when we're done too.
Post by: Marschy on October 08, 2015, 04:51:41 AM
And your not invited to the next flying funanza Jeepers. I have Parkinsons Disease and I'll still give my possessions the protection I believe they deserve. Hero
Post by: stiffbreeze on October 08, 2015, 05:17:49 AM
I may be a drone operator but I can guarantee that if someone breaks my +$2000 business drone, the law will be on my side when I sue.
And I can hold my own. I may be a girl but I learnt a few things playing ice hockey....braking not being one of those things. ????
Marschy knows his Shit re regulations. If we have approval to be at a certain height, we can.
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Post by: UIZ733 on October 08, 2015, 06:08:13 AM
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on October 08, 2015, 06:13:29 AM
A little bit like pushbike riders and the two abreast thing.
Look, If they're being flown with common sense, all is good.
If its hovering next to my house as Robbo mentioned, its coming down if I can get at it.
Post by: Marschy on October 08, 2015, 06:22:09 AM
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on October 08, 2015, 06:26:26 AM
This is really eye opening "If you don't do things my way, your teddy bear goes on the fire" scary sort of sh!t.
No Marschy, not doing things my way, just stay out of my yard and away from my house.
So, you twist it how ya like and do what ya want to your own teddy bear..... i'm done on the topic.
Post by: Troopy_03 on October 08, 2015, 06:29:13 AM
This is really eye opening "If you don't do things my way, your teddy bear goes on the fire" scary sort of sh!t.Probably not your teddy bear, but if one of your drones starts hovering around in my yard without my permission, it definitely will. In small pieces.
Post by: Moggy on October 08, 2015, 06:34:19 AM
If its that close & got a camera, trying to focus on some swaggers black hole will probably fry the circuits or the shock will cause operator to crash & burn :-) :-).
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Post by: Marschy on October 08, 2015, 06:45:37 AM
Post by: tk421 on October 08, 2015, 07:30:57 AM
I can assure any myswagger, that if I am flying my quadcopter in proximity to any other myswagger property that they will be asked before hand if they have any objections. But if I am flying in public space within the confines of the law and regulations, I'll do as I please.
And that's the point. No one will have an issue with that. OP had a quad copter in his backyard at head height. Private property without permission.
Post by: Troopy_03 on October 08, 2015, 07:32:58 AM
Post by: Hewy54 on October 08, 2015, 07:36:10 AM
And that's the point. No one will have an issue with that. OP had a quad copter in his backyard at head height. Private property without permission.Things get a bit like Chinese whispers here. OP actually says frontyard at roof height.
Post by: raider on October 08, 2015, 07:49:03 AM
"Marschy knows his Shit re regulations. If we have approval to be at a certain height, we can."
A little bit like pushbike riders and the two abreast thing.
Look, If they're being flown with common sense, all is good.
If its hovering next to my house as Robbo mentioned, its coming down if I can get at it.
Jeepers , let's turn this into a bicycle thread. ;D
Post by: Marschy on October 08, 2015, 07:52:12 AM
Things get a bit like Chinese whispers here. OP actually says frontyard at roof height.8-10 metres away, now in my suburb that would put the quad copter on the median strip or the road.
Post by: Fizzie on October 08, 2015, 07:54:09 AM
It's a mine field that's for sure.
Hey Robbo, sorry mate but a mine field won't work against the buzzy thing (unless it lands in your yard), you definitely need anti-aircraft for that ;D
The mine field in the front yard would go a long way towards protecting your CT & Staffy, but it may just be taken as being a bit extreme :angel:
Post by: scarpsD40 on October 08, 2015, 07:55:40 AM
who the hell would want to take snapshots of any of you ugly bastards anyway.lol......given the control range of the non military units, maybe one of the neighbours wives thinks he's hot?
Like others have said, I'd just moon it. Might get me viral on social media
Post by: Swannie on October 08, 2015, 08:01:52 AM
Post by: scarpsD40 on October 08, 2015, 08:05:26 AM
I love Scones...... >:Dok, moon it while eating a scone
Post by: gronk on October 08, 2015, 08:15:09 AM
Like anything 99% of the time it's all above board and good fun, but should I wait until my dogs gone or my CT (which I park out the back out of sight) until I do something about it?
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1st thing I would do is train the dog to protect your CT, then train it to maul and dismember anyone accessing your backyard !! ;D ;D
Next, you need to get a few pidgeons......don't train them to be homing pidgeons, train them to be attack pidgeons......well, kamikaze pidgeons to be exact !! >:D >:D
Post by: tk421 on October 08, 2015, 08:15:19 AM
http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/oct/07/drone-death-ray-device-liteye-auds (http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/oct/07/drone-death-ray-device-liteye-auds)
Post by: Swannie on October 08, 2015, 08:24:13 AM
Problem solved. You could probably eat scones whilst operating it
http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/oct/07/drone-death-ray-device-liteye-auds (http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/oct/07/drone-death-ray-device-liteye-auds)
:cup:
Post by: scarpsD40 on October 08, 2015, 08:29:23 AM
Might add this as an agenda item for the next national meet committee meeting
Post by: oldmate on October 08, 2015, 08:38:31 AM
Post by: Darcy7 on October 08, 2015, 09:21:26 AM
Post by: oldmate on October 08, 2015, 09:34:51 AM
I can assure any myswagger, that if I am flying my quadcopter in proximity to any other myswagger property that they will be asked before hand if they have any objections. But if I am flying in public space within the confines of the law and regulations, I'll do as I please.
That is the point all along. See after all this you are getting it. Only took some scones with jam and cream.
Cheers
Post by: Marschy on October 08, 2015, 09:51:44 AM
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Post by: scarpsD40 on October 08, 2015, 11:53:11 AM
I love Scones...... >:D
Post by: robbo1172 on October 08, 2015, 12:37:47 PM
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Post by: Fizzie on October 08, 2015, 12:54:00 PM
Problem solved. You could probably eat scones whilst operating it
& seeing that it obviously operates on RF frequency, you should probably even be able to adapt it to cook the scones while it's shooting the drone down. You'd then be able to take control of the drone & use it to deliver the fresh scones :D :-*
Post by: tk421 on October 08, 2015, 12:55:04 PM
& seeing that it obviously operates on RF frequency, you should probably even be able to adapt it to cook the scones while it's shooting the drone down. You'd then be able to take control of the drone & use it to deliver the fresh scones :D :-*
Microwave and Drone killer FTW :cup:
Post by: oldmate on October 08, 2015, 03:11:39 PM
Post by: scarpsD40 on October 08, 2015, 03:47:39 PM
Scone drone's r usworthless;D
Post by: Barry G on October 08, 2015, 04:02:45 PM
1/. Be lawful, or
2/. NOT constitute some form of trespass?
Surely no different to some scrote deciding to park uninvited in my driveway. Yes, it has happened... (Just because I am conveniently close to a major venue.)
Why wouldnt I have the right to take whatever action is necessary to 'impound' the thing and charge for its return, just as occurs with illegal parking?
Post by: scarpsD40 on October 08, 2015, 04:13:48 PM
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on October 08, 2015, 04:37:04 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFx_ivFyD8M (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFx_ivFyD8M)
Post by: Marschy on October 08, 2015, 04:48:10 PM
To the experts on this subject: In what circumstances would flying one of these things on my property at or below eave hight, without my permission:The definition of 'populous area' is not clearly defined in the regulations, but I'm pretty sure it covers flying over the top of anyone's private property. It is not so clear what constitutes a 'populous area' when flying over something like a beach because it seems to be allowed depending upon how many people are using the beach, but it is not a good idea in my opinion to fly over the top of anyone, anytime, regardless.
1/. Be lawful, or
2/. NOT constitute some form of trespass?
Surely no different to some scrote deciding to park uninvited in my driveway. Yes, it has happened... (Just because I am conveniently close to a major venue.)
Why wouldnt I have the right to take whatever action is necessary to 'impound' the thing and charge for its return, just as occurs with illegal parking?
I am not an expert in this matter and I refer you to section 101 volume 3 of the CASA regulations which covers this issue and you can judge for yourself.
I cannot comment on your right to impound a quadcopter, I have no idea, but damaging someone's property is as far as I am aware is deemed as malicious damage in one shape or another. That applies to any damage caused by the quadcopter as well. It is why there are such organisations as the MAAA which provides model aircraft club members with insurance.
Post by: Marschy on October 08, 2015, 05:14:24 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GC85qvEhbLA# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GC85qvEhbLA#)
Post by: robbo1172 on October 08, 2015, 05:19:31 PM
Whatever you do, DO NOT ask about the drones...
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Post by: Marschy on October 08, 2015, 05:36:58 PM
So from 10ft in the air it can't see my dog or CT in the back yard?Wasn't it your front yard you mentioned before, I'm pretty sure it was. Wasn't it 8-10 metres away before, I'm pretty sure I can quote you on that as well. Getting pretty confused at to the actual circumstances that this 'incident' occurred now. It's all pretty wishy washy. But hey as long as you get your 2 minutes of fame and loyal supporters, who cares how much you tell or don't tell, hey?
Whatever you do, DO NOT ask about the drones...
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Post by: Robbo on October 08, 2015, 05:54:38 PM
You have also pushed the boundaries with your nasty personal insinuations. The original poster had every right to be concerned and you are virtually calling him a liar. I suggest you take time out and go and play with your own drone and keep it away from peoples private property
where you won't be at risk of it being shot down. >:( >:(
Post by: robbo1172 on October 08, 2015, 06:00:07 PM
Robbo..,
Whatever you do, DO NOT ask about the drones...
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Post by: robbo1172 on October 08, 2015, 06:02:10 PM
Robbo...
Whatever you do, DO NOT ask about the drones...
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Post by: scarpsD40 on October 08, 2015, 06:10:51 PM
Post by: 4wd26 on October 08, 2015, 06:19:10 PM
This gives you an idea of what capability cameras on quadcopters have.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GC85qvEhbLA# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GC85qvEhbLA#)
that's a bit misleading
there are multiple drones capable of much better resolution than that, mind you at a cost, and then if commercial then licensed by CASA and not worth the loss if found doing the wrong thing
I too would litigate if the drone I was flying today got taken out- the thing is worth over $100k, mind you hawks have taken a liking to it in the past hence the eyes
and yes it can fly above the limits mentioned earlier, but again need license to do so, and VHF etc etc.
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/10/06/54432a3a687634e5815b3a09f8fcb8fa.jpg)
and again this is old tech around 3 years old, camera tech for the photogrammetry has advanced, if this flew over your house at 150m you wouldn't even know :angel:
Post by: macca on October 08, 2015, 07:02:50 PM
Not sure why the need for the personal attack. In over 100 posts in my thread, I've only made maybe four posts (can't be bothered going over seven pages to actually count them). Yes it was my front yard about 8 to 10m away, about 10 ft in the air, just above the height of my gutter. That's where I saw it before it took off. From where it was you can easily see over my side gate (6 ft high). Anyway, as the OP of this thread, I'd like to see it die a death please. Now, can I wire a 200W solar panel with 1.5mm wire?Robbo send a PM to one of the mods and get it locked or deleted . IMHO is has just turned into a personal attack
Robbo..,
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That's a cool looking drone 4wd26
Post by: oldmate on October 08, 2015, 07:11:42 PM
This gives you an idea of what capability cameras on quadcopters have.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GC85qvEhbLA# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GC85qvEhbLA#)
Awesome. I want one. Thanks for sharing.
Post by: stiffbreeze on October 08, 2015, 07:18:24 PM
Thanks for sharing.
Yeah lock the thread. Phone hasn't stopped all bloody day.
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Post by: Swannie on October 08, 2015, 07:20:05 PM
Post by: Moggy on October 08, 2015, 07:21:53 PM
that's a bit misleading
there are multiple drones capable of much better resolution than that, mind you at a cost, and then if commercial then licensed by CASA and not worth the loss if found doing the wrong thing
I too would litigate if the drone I was flying today got taken out- the thing is worth over $100k, mind you hawks have taken a liking to it in the past hence the eyes
and yes it can fly above the limits mentioned earlier, but again need license to do so, and VHF etc etc.
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/10/06/54432a3a687634e5815b3a09f8fcb8fa.jpg)
and again this is old tech around 3 years old, camera tech for the photogrammetry has advanced, if this flew over your house at 150m you wouldn't even know :angel:
Geez you could probably find Osama Bin Laden with that bad boy
Post by: oldmate on October 08, 2015, 07:27:03 PM
Post by: robbo1172 on October 08, 2015, 07:38:30 PM
Happy for it to get locked...
Robbo...
Post by: Bird on October 08, 2015, 07:42:41 PM
I thought mods were stuff like beer bottle openers on your CT and such and I don't know who to ask?only after shooting one down
Happy for it to get locked...
Robbo...
Post by: GGV8Cruza on October 08, 2015, 07:58:55 PM
GG