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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: xcvator on March 29, 2015, 11:41:38 AM
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Who's got 1, be brave and tell me, what do you think of it, problems, good bad and ugly, what mods have you done etc. :angel:
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lots of lookers here but no one is owning up.....lol
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Hmmm, i we don't have one, but just googled them and i do like the look of it
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I had a good look at one of these at the Rockhampton camping show last year and was incredibly disappointed with the quality of finish. Could never justifying spending my hard earned on something so poorly finished.
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Maybe people are putting their money on the original designed and constructed in Australia version AT10 by Lifestyle Campers rather than the ripped off copied version by MDC.
http://www.lifestylecampertrailers.com.au/model/lifestyle-at-10/ (http://www.lifestylecampertrailers.com.au/model/lifestyle-at-10/)
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Could you elaborate a bit more on what exactly wasnt finished properly Brocky?
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Could you elaborate a bit more on what exactly wasnt finished properly Brocky?
x2 I've heard that comment several times but never any actual detail
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Campertrailer Australia Magazine did a review on it a couple of issues ago.
Their heading went something like this: MDC claim that this crossover can handle anything anything you can throw at it in Australia, but can it handle the dirt roads around Broken Hill?
Apparantly not after reading the article - they were pretty scathing of it, infact the worst review on a camper I have read from them ever.
MDC = Make Direct Copies - it is a Chinese copied Lifestyle product. Stick with the original I think.
Here is the internet version of the review which has been watered down considerably - all the negative comments are missing (They must have received a letter!!): http://www.campertraileraustralia.com.au/campertrailer-reviews/1412/market-direct-campers-xtreme-terrain-xt-10-review/ (http://www.campertraileraustralia.com.au/campertrailer-reviews/1412/market-direct-campers-xtreme-terrain-xt-10-review/)
One of the members in our 4wd club has just got one - it's first trip will be this Easter so I will report back on his opinions.
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i dont have any biased opinions towards MDC or any other CT, just interested in what it was like in the flesh so to speak.
because it looked impressive online as did the AT10 plus the AT10 is cheaper
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Campertrailer Australia Magazine did a review on it a couple of issues ago.
Their heading went something like this: MDC claim that this crossover can handle anything anything you can throw at it in Australia, but can it handle the dirt roads around Broken Hill?
Apparantly not after reading the article - they were pretty scathing of it, infact the worst review on a camper I have read from them ever.
MDC = Make Direct Copies - it is a Chinese copied Lifestyle product. Stick with the original I think.
Here is the internet version of the review which has been watered down considerably - all the negative comments are missing (They must have received a letter!!): http://www.campertraileraustralia.com.au/campertrailer-reviews/1412/market-direct-campers-xtreme-terrain-xt-10-review/ (http://www.campertraileraustralia.com.au/campertrailer-reviews/1412/market-direct-campers-xtreme-terrain-xt-10-review/)
One of the members in our 4wd club has just got one - it's first trip will be this Easter so I will report back on his opinions.
I just reread my original post in case I got it wrong. I DID ask for information from people that ACTUALLY had 1, not 2nd hand opinions from a magazine, I can do that for myself
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Could you elaborate a bit more on what exactly wasnt finished properly Brocky?
Large gaps between panelling in the shower/toilet unit, maybe up to 6mm + just filled up with silastic and very poorly at that. The electrical side of things were very poorly executed (harsh judge here as I am a leccy) but none the less could be improved on greatly. Makes you wonder how well the stuff you can't see or don't know much about are done. Unfortunately Lifestyle didn't have an AT10 or 12 at the show for direct comparison. At this stage the MDC would be off my list unless a drastic improvement in QA was evident.
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Wife and I looked at it at the outdoor show last year.
We were both very impressed with everything about it.
Impressed enough we almost sold our older aussie swag and ordered one.
Morag breaking her foot put an end to that for now.
But we are still very keen
Bill
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I just reread my original post in case I got it wrong. I DID ask for information from people that ACTUALLY had 1, not 2nd hand opinions from a magazine, I can do that for myself
I just re-read it too and it doesn't say not to comment if you don't have one either!!! I also didn't take my mind reading tablets this morning regarding the magazine comment either!
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Hi xcavator,
I don't own one and I havnt actually seen one close up. Apologies in advance as I know you wanted comments from owners only. I just wanted to add my 2 cents about the review in CTA magazine.
If this post doesn't suit this thread, PM me mate and I will remove :cheers: Muz.
Campertrailer Australia Magazine did a review on it a couple of issues ago.
Their heading went something like this: MDC claim that this crossover can handle anything anything you can throw at it in Australia, but can it handle the dirt roads around Broken Hill?
Apparantly not after reading the article - they were pretty scathing of it, infact the worst review on a camper I have read from them ever.
MDC = Make Direct Copies - it is a Chinese copied Lifestyle product. Stick with the original I think.
Here is the internet version of the review which has been watered down considerably - all the negative comments are missing (They must have received a letter!!): http://www.campertraileraustralia.com.au/campertrailer-reviews/1412/market-direct-campers-xtreme-terrain-xt-10-review/ (http://www.campertraileraustralia.com.au/campertrailer-reviews/1412/market-direct-campers-xtreme-terrain-xt-10-review/)
One of the members in our 4wd club has just got one - it's first trip will be this Easter so I will report back on his opinions.
I can't comment positively or negatively on this MDC trailer other than to clear up a few things.
I have the December issue of CTA where they reviewed the MDC XT10. I have read and re-read the whole article.
The title of the story is MDC claims it's Hybrid camper can handle anything you can throw at it, but can it handle Broken Hill?
Not sure if it is the worst review ever in their magazine. The review wasn't great but to be fair I would also say that is was far from being scathing. There was some good and bad points mentioned. Did CTA actually receive a threatening letter from MDC?
The main difference between the magazine article and the Internet version is the size (written words) of the review. The Internet version provides a very small snippet of info compared to the magazine. It is true that there is some negatives missing from the Internet version but the positives are also missing, in fact, there is probably well over a thousand words missing from magazine version the Internet version.
Here is a pic of the review, the scores are out of 10. The worst score I can find is 5/10. Defo not a great score but I would have thought a bad score to be 1 or 2 out of 10.
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... magazine tests... waste of ink.
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my comment wasnt first hand-- so it was deleted but can find the link to the falling wall
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rumors have it that a wall fell out of the one they took up over billy goats in the high country......like I said rumor.......... :angel:
And that's why I wanted 1st hand experiences
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I have one and wall fell out of the one I took up over billy goats in the high country
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I have one and wall fell out of the one I took up over billy goats in the high country
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:cup: Pmsl.
Ahh one of those nights ain't it.
Ps sorry xcvator.
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:cup: Pmsl.
Ahh one of those nights ain't it.
Ps sorry xcvator.
You will be >:D >:D :D
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... magazine tests... waste of ink.
'ere 'ere !
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... magazine tests... waste of ink.
Unless the say the things we might like to hear.
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Google a product review on 'em.
That should give you some first hand comments.
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No one here got one ??? or had a good look at one, you can pm me if you want to with your opinions ( not about me , I know what you think there 8) ) :cheers:
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Oh, it's starting to turn out like an electrical section post.
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Im seriously considering an AT10 evo(now the AT11). I checked Lifestyles out for about an hour at Perth caravan show, and they look pretty good bit of gear.
Walked past MDC and decided to compare. As per previous post, gaps in folding section, also most bits feel like cheap products.
The slide out kitchen had sharp edges in many places, steel felt thinner, sliding runners felt flimsy, interior quality and finish not in the same league.
I was quiet surprised in the difference between the 2.
When you consider theres not much in the price, I would choose a local product that gives quality parts and back up service.Plus the ability to change layouts to suit is also a big plus
Cheers Glen
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Not sure why anyone would consider a chinese product when the original aussie product is a similar/same price ??
Regardless of quality/build issues..
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I had a good look at one of these at the Rockhampton camping show last year and was incredibly disappointed with the quality of finish. Could never justifying spending my hard earned on something so poorly finished.
Have you seen the new 2015, V5 ?
http://youtu.be/9It82BL3tK8?list=UUMjoehlkYGZ2VqW7vLfMujg (http://youtu.be/9It82BL3tK8?list=UUMjoehlkYGZ2VqW7vLfMujg)
If you really want to see what the Range of XT Offroad Caravans are capable of, then get yourself a couple of these DVD's http://www.lowrange.tv/ (http://www.lowrange.tv/)
Happy Camping ;)
MDC Insider
:cheers: out of retirement :cheers:
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Interesting to have a MDC rep pass comment in this thread yet not take the opportunity to respond to the claims they've copied the Lifestyle AT-10 product and respond to why one should consider their company given the price similarity to the Australian made and original, Lifestyle product.
Silence is golden.
BTW we're in the build que for a new Lifestyle AT-12
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Have you seen the new 2015, V5 ?
http://youtu.be/9It82BL3tK8?list=UUMjoehlkYGZ2VqW7vLfMujg (http://youtu.be/9It82BL3tK8?list=UUMjoehlkYGZ2VqW7vLfMujg)
If you really want to see what the Range of XT Offroad Caravans are capable of, then get yourself a couple of these DVD's http://www.lowrange.tv/ (http://www.lowrange.tv/)
Happy Camping ;)
MDC Insider
:cheers: out of retirement :cheers:
Yes I just checked out the latest at the Perth Caravan and camping show 2 weeks ago and as I said in previous post, not in the same league as
the Lifestyle campers that appears to have been copied.
cheers Glen
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Interesting to have a MDC rep pass comment in this thread yet not take the opportunity to respond to the claims they've copied the Lifestyle AT-10 product and respond to why one should consider their company given the price similarity to the Australian made and original, Lifestyle product.
Silence is golden.
BTW we're in the build que for a new Lifestyle AT-12
If you want to start a hate/slanging match of you did this, you did that, start your own thread >:(
I'm NOT interested in innuendo, rumours or 2nd hand garbage or opinions, sorry for the rant but this sort of thing is happening more and more when somebody asks a question and members with no bloody idea about the subject start muddying up the water >:( >:( >:( >:(
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If you want to start a hate/slanging match of you did this, you did that, start your own thread >:(
I'm NOT interested in innuendo, rumours or 2nd hand garbage or opinions, sorry for the rant but this sort of thing is happening more and more when somebody asks a question and members with no bloody idea about the subject start muddying up the water >:( >:( >:( >:(
How is this muddying the water? All Australians should think carefully about supporting the Chinese ripoff option. The manufacturing industry in this country is in tatters because of it. Not every kid can go to uni, nor should they. in times past the industry has employed so many young Australians, trained them and set them up for life. An entire generation of skills is being lost right now due to the buying decisions of all of us.
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How is this muddying the water? All Australians should think carefully about supporting the Chinese ripoff option. The manufacturing industry in this country is in tatters because of it. Not every kid can go to uni, nor should they. in times past the industry has employed so many young Australians, trained them and set them up for life. An entire generation of skills is being lost right now due to the buying decisions of all of us.
Read my op
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Read my op
I did, you asked for the good, bad and ugly. This is a forum where posts may be read by many other prospective buyers and not just you. The ugly truth is that these are a poor imitation built in China with idea stolen from an Australian company's IP - A point that is worth taking into consideration.
Im a toolmaker by trade, I looked at these at the show in Adelaide. They are flimsy, poorly constructed and thrown together with little skill or care. If that's your thing then go for it, but I don't understand why anyone with the interests of Australian jobs as at least a consideration would'nt pay the bit extra to get the genuine thing.
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I looked at these at the show in Adelaide. They are flimsy, poorly constructed and thrown together with little skill or care.
That part of your comment is a fair comment, :D the rest is just muddying the waters with your personal opinion of the company and it's ethics which may or may not be true, and then trying to politicize the thread >:(
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That part of your comment is a fair comment, :D the rest is just muddying the waters with your personal opinion of the company and it's ethics which may or may not be true, and then trying to politicize the thread >:(
Buying Australian isn't necessarily a political thing. It's a family thing, investing in your kid's future.
Sorry man but it's just a bugbear of mine, I have watched the thriving industry that I grew up in die, to the point where I had to change tack and get out. I was lucky, so many I knew were not.
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Go easy y'all, this thread is being watched.
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Sorry
Marvin Snow
I was just trying to keep the thread on the track of the PHYSICAL good, bad or ugly and not bring morals, emotions or politics into the discussion :-* :D
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That V5 in the YouTube clip above is a good looking bit of gear!
My only concern is the size of that toilet holding tank (seems small), and the longevity of the back folding bit. Once it is ten years old and been opened and closed a thousand times, will it all still seal up nice and tight.
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I have an XT10.
I typically do not respond to forums because they are too often full of hearsay, opinion and untruths. For those who want genuine comment from an MDC XT10 owner, read on. Please note that I will not respond to hearsay, “in my opinion” or emotionally motivated posts.
Tow vehicle: 2012 Ford Ranger 3.2 Auto (4inch lift, Long Range Tank, bar & Winch, 6 wheel tire pressure monitors)
Hybrid camper: MDC XT-10, 60 litre Engle and gas BBQ. (+ two adults)
Trip: Brisbane, Birdsville, Boulia, Alice Springs, Kings Canyon loop, Katherine, Roper Bar, Borroloola, Burketown, Normanton, Townsville, Brisbane. (Using the Donoghue/Plenty Hwy and Savannah way)
Distance: Total 10,000km, gravel road 2,000km - over a period of 4 weeks. To cover this distance and still have a few days at Birdsville, ‘the Rock’, Katherine and Townsville I was often using persistently higher speeds than I expect most travellers would on the heavily corrugated roads and through the (hundreds) of dips/creek crossings.
I have XT-10 build number 9, I experienced no failures, there are no cracks and everything opens and shuts as it should. The spare tires have dual locking mechanisms, a primary and a secondary. I did break one of the secondary latch possibly by me over tightening it. The dust suppression was acceptable, (there was only slightly more dust in the van compared to what we got into the car), the new three point latch door (see below) will improve this further.
Being one of the first production models, MDC were keen to get my feedback. I made the following recommendations: Stiffer and taller coil springs (improved full load height and stability on gravel at speed), dual shock absorbers (improved heat transfer during high temperatures on persistently heavily corrugated roads). Three point door locking (improved dust sealing). Reduced tow hitch weight (easier manual handling and stability at speed on gravel). Loctite on all latches and knobs (prevent them vibrating loose over enduring corrugations).
I understand that MDC have implemented all these recommendations on the current models.
As a personal preference, and at my own cost I changed the tow coupling. I say this was a personal preference because the supplied coupling was made in Australia and in all respects compliant and fit for purpose.
To make it perfectly clear to the small number of wallies that seem to dominate these forums - I have no family or financial involvement with MDC..
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I have an XT10.
I typically do not respond to forums because they are too often full of hearsay, opinion and untruths. For those who want genuine comment from an MDC XT10 owner, read on. Please note that I will not respond to hearsay, “in my opinion” or emotionally motivated posts.
Tow vehicle: 2012 Ford Ranger 3.2 Auto (4inch lift, Long Range Tank, bar & Winch, 6 wheel tire pressure monitors)
Hybrid camper: MDC XT-10, 60 litre Engle and gas BBQ. (+ two adults)
Trip: Brisbane, Birdsville, Boulia, Alice Springs, Kings Canyon loop, Katherine, Roper Bar, Borroloola, Burketown, Normanton, Townsville, Brisbane. (Using the Donoghue/Plenty Hwy and Savannah way)
Distance: Total 10,000km, gravel road 2,000km - over a period of 4 weeks. To cover this distance and still have a few days at Birdsville, ‘the Rock’, Katherine and Townsville I was often using persistently higher speeds than I expect most travellers would on the heavily corrugated roads and through the (hundreds) of dips/creek crossings.
I have XT-10 build number 9, I experienced no failures, there are no cracks and everything opens and shuts as it should. The spare tires have dual locking mechanisms, a primary and a secondary. I did break one of the secondary latch possibly by me over tightening it. The dust suppression was acceptable, (there was only slightly more dust in the van compared to what we got into the car), the new three point latch door (see below) will improve this further.
Being one of the first production models, MDC were keen to get my feedback. I made the following recommendations: Stiffer and taller coil springs (improved full load height and stability on gravel at speed), dual shock absorbers (improved heat transfer during high temperatures on persistently heavily corrugated roads). Three point door locking (improved dust sealing). Reduced tow hitch weight (easier manual handling and stability at speed on gravel). Loctite on all latches and knobs (prevent them vibrating loose over enduring corrugations).
I understand that MDC have implemented all these recommendations on the current models.
As a personal preference, and at my own cost I changed the tow coupling. I say this was a personal preference because the supplied coupling was made in Australia and in all respects compliant and fit for purpose.
To make it perfectly clear to the small number of wallies that seem to dominate these forums - I have no family or financial involvement with MDC..
Welcome to the forum Titch. Nice first post....
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Thanks Titch for posting, interesting read
ps, welcome to the forum :cheers:
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I have an XT10.
I typically do not respond to forums because they are too often full of hearsay, opinion and untruths. For those who want genuine comment from an MDC XT10 owner, read on. Please note that I will not respond to hearsay, “in my opinion” or emotionally motivated posts.
Tow vehicle: 2012 Ford Ranger 3.2 Auto (4inch lift, Long Range Tank, bar & Winch, 6 wheel tire pressure monitors)
Hybrid camper: MDC XT-10, 60 litre Engle and gas BBQ. (+ two adults)
Trip: Brisbane, Birdsville, Boulia, Alice Springs, Kings Canyon loop, Katherine, Roper Bar, Borroloola, Burketown, Normanton, Townsville, Brisbane. (Using the Donoghue/Plenty Hwy and Savannah way)
Distance: Total 10,000km, gravel road 2,000km - over a period of 4 weeks. To cover this distance and still have a few days at Birdsville, ‘the Rock’, Katherine and Townsville I was often using persistently higher speeds than I expect most travellers would on the heavily corrugated roads and through the (hundreds) of dips/creek crossings.
I have XT-10 build number 9, I experienced no failures, there are no cracks and everything opens and shuts as it should. The spare tires have dual locking mechanisms, a primary and a secondary. I did break one of the secondary latch possibly by me over tightening it. The dust suppression was acceptable, (there was only slightly more dust in the van compared to what we got into the car), the new three point latch door (see below) will improve this further.
Being one of the first production models, MDC were keen to get my feedback. I made the following recommendations: Stiffer and taller coil springs (improved full load height and stability on gravel at speed), dual shock absorbers (improved heat transfer during high temperatures on persistently heavily corrugated roads). Three point door locking (improved dust sealing). Reduced tow hitch weight (easier manual handling and stability at speed on gravel). Loctite on all latches and knobs (prevent them vibrating loose over enduring corrugations).
I understand that MDC have implemented all these recommendations on the current models.
As a personal preference, and at my own cost I changed the tow coupling. I say this was a personal preference because the supplied coupling was made in Australia and in all respects compliant and fit for purpose.
To make it perfectly clear to the small number of wallies that seem to dominate these forums - I have no family or financial involvement with MDC..
Welcome to the forum and taking the time to review this product in calm and un-emotive language.
Your final statement is valid unfortunately as increasingly it appears some cannot let a post progress without inane banter and unsubstantiated drivel.
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Titch it would be nice to see some pics of the trip and set up, Think we may be looking at one of these style little units in the near future. 10,000 km in a month is way to hectic a pace for me .
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Not sure why anyone would consider a chinese product when the original aussie product is a similar/same price ??
Regardless of quality/build issues..
I still stand by this comment......whether it be chinese, japanese or new zealand......for a similar/same price, I don't understand the logic of avoiding aussie made....UNLESS it was proven that the aussie product was inferior !!!!
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I still stand by this comment......whether it be chinese, japanese or new zealand......for a similar/same price, I don't understand the logic of avoiding aussie made....UNLESS it was proven that the aussie product was inferior !!!!
As I have said BEFORE I am looking for FACTS FACTS FACTS nothing more, nothing less, so unless you have some FACTS about the PHYSICAL construction and capabilities of this camper please BUT OUT >:( >:(
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Just go and buy one..........you have chosen to ignore and belittle anyone who has posted up about it, so quit asking questions and spend your money..
BTW, it's BUTT out !!!! ;D
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As I have said BEFORE I am looking for FACTS FACTS FACTS nothing more, nothing less, so unless you have some FACTS about the PHYSICAL construction and capabilities of this camper please BUT OUT >:( >:(
If you're looking for facts you're kidding yourself because as far as the internet is concerned, its all here say (unless you actually know the good folk on here personally). Anyways, sounds like you've already made your mind up. Good luck
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Why do people make assumptions about things like this ???
At no time have I suggested that I was going to buy this or any other camper ffs ???
All that I have seen about this camper/caravan is either MDC advertising or a hate "Chinese campers" syndrome with all that entails :-*
Has the thought crossed your minds that I may just be interested in the facts in case at sometime in the future I may downgrade to a caravan
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sometime in the future I may downgrade to a caravan
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sentence of the year I think
Cheers
Evo
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This thread sound like what happens when someone wants to know how good jeeps are :cup:
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Gday Millzzy
i can tell you how good my jeep is. Its bloody brilliant.
Mind you, those with closed minds who listen to the thoughts of the sheep who think following everyone else is the right way (toyota or datsun) arent going to listen to me.
silverfox
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....those with closed minds who listen to the thoughts of the sheep...
...a contradiction, perhaps?...
...who think following leading everyone else is the right way (toyota or datsun) arent going to listen to me.
...fixed it... ;D :P
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Gday Geoffa
you got me on your first point.
silverfox
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Always interesting to see a new member on a forum supporting a vendor with post number one, along with calling forum members "Wallies"
Look forward to your trip reports and photos of camper number 9
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Always interesting to see a new member on a forum supporting a vendor with post number one, along with calling forum members "Wallies"
Look forward to your trip reports and photos of camper number 9
Glad I wasn't the only one thinking the same ;D
I too look forward to seeing some "action" shots.
KB
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Always interesting to see a new member on a forum supporting a vendor with post number one, along with calling forum members "Wallies"
Look forward to your trip reports and photos of camper number 9
Ease up fellas. He's the only one who has posted a FACTUAL and unbiased review so far ::) ::) ::)
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Ease up fellas. He's the only one who has posted a FACTUAL and unbiased review so far ::) ::) ::)
Yep, you are probably correct. I will await post two with much anticipation.
KB
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Yep, you are probably correct. I will await post two with much anticipation.
KB
That second post will probably be a "Mirage" >:D >:D >:D
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Good to see the "hate Chinese campers syndrome" is alive and well :cup: wonder if I can start a "hate Japanese cars " thread as well >:D
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Good to see the "hate Chinese campers syndrome" is alive and well :cup: wonder if I can start a "hate Japanese cars " thread as well >:D
Mate, I don't "hate Chinese campers". In fact I consciously make the effort to refer to non-Australian campers as "imported" as I hate using the term "Chinese" as to me the use of "Chinese" infers a mild racist attitude and an inference that everything from that particular country is inferior, which we all know is not correct.
I have no issue with any imported campers, most seem to be improving in quality and certainly have a place in the Australian market. What I have an issue with is some of the marketing strategies and sales people who sell imported campers. Some marketing claims are blatantly misleading. But if a prospective customer is armed with all the facts and makes their decision based upon knowing the facts, and not some half truths peddled by unscrupulous sale people, then I am sure they will be very happy with their choice of camper.
What I find mildy amusing is the first post from a new forum member vigorously defending the MDC. Let's be honest, it is a little sus. But I am prepared to be proven wrong as I have been on many an occasion.
If you yourself, decide to buy an MDC, after having researched all the facts, then I wish you well in your search for the facts. But expecting any thread on this forum to remain on topic, is extremely wishfull thinking ;D
KB
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Its a discussion forum - after the first post, the original poster loses all control over the thread. Take what you want from the discussion points, rebut what you don't agree with, but don't expect to control it.
TC
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Good to see the "hate Chinese campers syndrome" is alive and well :cup: wonder if I can start a "hate Japanese cars " thread as well >:D
I'll be in that with you!
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+1... why would the new forum member post again after having his integrity potentially called into question?
does anyone know him personally? we can't know whether he is telling the truth or not.
i'm inclined to give the benefit of the doubt until proven incorrect.
Who, pray tell, has potentially called his integrity into question? I too am giving him the benefit of doubt as clearly stated above.
KB
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+1... why would the new forum member post again after having his integrity potentially called into question?
does anyone know him personally? we can't know whether he is telling the truth or not.
i'm inclined to give the benefit of the doubt until proven incorrect.
His integrity was called in to question when he called other swaggers, "wallies" in his first post.
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Here we go again. Another thread about to be locked or severely cleaned up.
Two of you guys really need to sort out some 5hit, every time you two post in the same thread it turns into a personal slanging match.
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Here we go again. Another thread about to be locked or severely cleaned up.
Two of you guys really need to sort out some 5hit, every time you two post in the same thread it turns into a personal slanging match.
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This thread has gone exactly the way Xcavator had intended. It's because he's bored due to being old and is a sh#tstirrer b :-*
Swannie
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which we all know is not correct.
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This thread has gone exactly the way Xcavator had intended. It's because he's bored due to being old and is a sh#tstirrer b :-*
Swannie
Swannie, Swannie, Swannie, bugga you,go away, now what am I going to do
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Twitch has identified which specific build # he owns! as well as specific things he gave MDC feedback on and what has subsequently been changed.
That seems significantly different to the type of glowing posts reportedly seen from representatives of some companies.
AFAIC some of the responses seemed to justify Titch's concerns at and characterisation of some of the responses he was afraid of generating seem to prove his point.