Post by: krisandkev on February 24, 2015, 12:06:56 PM
A GROUP of surfers returning from Double Island Point along Rainbow Beach's coastal road got stuck and had to abandon their two vehicles to the tide on Sunday.
Rainbow Beach Towing owner Dave Elder said a lot of sand had been washed away from Mudlo Rocks recently and both vehicles got stuck about 8pm.
"It was dark and they didn't realise the water was as deep as it was," Mr Elder said.
As the tide came in, it "swallowed" the Holden Jackaroo and Toyota Landcruiser, overturning the Landcruiser.
There was nothing that could be done to rescue the two vehicles until low tide, around 4pm yesterday, Mr Elder said.
Three vehicles have now been caught by the infamous Mudlo Rocks at Rainbow Beach this month.
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Post by: Beachman on February 24, 2015, 12:11:35 PM
Post by: JCOJ on February 24, 2015, 12:15:41 PM
Post by: KingBilly on February 24, 2015, 12:22:54 PM
KB
Post by: Footy Shorts Shane on February 24, 2015, 12:26:39 PM
Insurance companies should have a 'You're an Idiot' clause in their fine print which would cover such scenarios and save the rest of us a fortune!
So should a drivers license renewal.
Post by: LuckyDog on February 24, 2015, 01:17:43 PM
no sympathy for those who dont get out, take 5 and have a walk over if in doubt the reassess the situation.
LD
Post by: MDS69 on February 24, 2015, 01:21:03 PM
Reported in local paper, (Not sure it was a smart move driving there at night and they should have known that there has been big tides and rough seas because of the cyclone. Looking at the photo the one reported as a Landcruiser, is it or is it a Prado?) Kevin
looks like a 200 series and a Jackaroo
Post by: Bird on February 24, 2015, 01:38:21 PM
Post by: Barry G on February 24, 2015, 01:40:10 PM
I'll give him $50 for the rooftop...And $50 / wheel for my 'collection'. :D
Post by: Bird on February 24, 2015, 01:42:20 PM
And $50 / wheel for my 'collection'. :D:D :cup: :cup: :cup:
Post by: muzza01 on February 24, 2015, 01:43:31 PM
Post by: gordo350 on February 24, 2015, 01:58:34 PM
Post by: Bird on February 24, 2015, 02:19:10 PM
Here is one of the driversYou leave Captain Risky out of this...
Post by: Elky on February 24, 2015, 02:19:23 PM
Look forward to seeing the pics added to the collage of previous carnage at the surf shop
Post by: MDS69 on February 24, 2015, 03:24:55 PM
You leave Captain Jeepers out of this...
Fixed it for you.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on February 24, 2015, 04:03:20 PM
Post by: Footy Shorts Shane on February 24, 2015, 04:05:27 PM
Nah, I would've made it too.... ;D
In the Falcon even.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on February 24, 2015, 04:17:50 PM
In the Falcon even.
Too true,
With enough run up, an XF Falcon van can do anything........
Post by: BaseCamp on February 24, 2015, 06:32:08 PM
Vote
Breed
Have vehicle licenses
Jobs
Steal air
Consume non renewable resources (inc. fuel)
Pass by you - about one metre from you in the opposite direction -- going 100+kms per hour in their 2tn machines.........
all that is totally depressing to contemplate
Post by: edz on February 24, 2015, 09:50:38 PM
Post by: Rumpig on February 24, 2015, 10:29:00 PM
Shoulda bought a Jeepbecause the loss wouldn't have been as bad you mean? ;D ;D
Post by: Coiled on February 24, 2015, 11:03:13 PM
Shoulda bought a Jeep
Wouldn't have made it there to get into trouble in the first place ;D
Post by: speewa158 on February 25, 2015, 04:54:55 AM
Post by: Silvo on February 25, 2015, 06:42:21 AM
and just to think - these cretins:
Vote
Breed
Have vehicle licenses
Jobs
Steal air
Consume non renewable resources (inc. fuel)
Pass by you - about one metre from you in the opposite direction -- going 100+kms per hour in their 2tn machines.........
all that is totally depressing to contemplate
they said they were surfers.. so they probably don't do half of that stuff. >:D
Post by: Black Diamond on February 25, 2015, 06:44:36 AM
Post by: Elky on February 25, 2015, 01:38:03 PM
because the loss wouldn't have been as bad you mean? ;D ;D
Would of been worse cause they would of lost the tilt tray the jeep would of inevitably been on :p
Post by: gv 2003 on February 25, 2015, 06:02:17 PM
http://www.ourrainbowbeach.com.au/our-rainbow-beach/rainbow-beach/mudlo-rocks.html (http://www.ourrainbowbeach.com.au/our-rainbow-beach/rainbow-beach/mudlo-rocks.html)
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on February 25, 2015, 06:18:49 PM
Post by: KingBilly on February 25, 2015, 06:24:23 PM
KB
Post by: speewa158 on February 25, 2015, 07:31:42 PM
check is page out
http://www.ourrainbowbeach.com.au/our-rainbow-beach/rainbow-beach/mudlo-rocks.html (http://www.ourrainbowbeach.com.au/our-rainbow-beach/rainbow-beach/mudlo-rocks.html)
AWWsome count there ;D ;D ;D & still they come :cheers:
Post by: clae81 on February 25, 2015, 10:11:06 PM
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Post by: Footy Shorts Shane on February 26, 2015, 05:02:29 AM
The Jeeps all make it around...... ;D
By taking Freshwater track?
You can show us all at the National Meet in a few months. ;D
Post by: speewa158 on February 26, 2015, 06:18:55 AM
Post by: Bird on February 26, 2015, 09:32:32 AM
They were still there this arvo.(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/02/25/0920dc08badae16c2173bd989eb1735a.jpg)someone should grab the tail lights off the cruiser, they would be worth a fortune!
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Post by: Darren253 on February 26, 2015, 09:48:40 AM
Post by: Elky on February 26, 2015, 01:34:15 PM
Post by: Beachman on February 26, 2015, 02:44:31 PM
Post by: Darren253 on February 26, 2015, 03:24:49 PM
Post by: speewa158 on February 26, 2015, 07:00:47 PM
Post by: bentnose on February 27, 2015, 08:46:14 AM
Post by: dales133 on February 27, 2015, 08:55:09 AM
Post by: avotrol on February 27, 2015, 06:59:59 PM
:cheers: avo
Post by: Barry G on February 27, 2015, 11:49:20 PM
If it was Northland nz it would be stripped bare and surrounded by KFC litterSounds a bit like Northland the shopping centre.
Known to locals as NorFlandS.
Post by: speewa158 on February 28, 2015, 09:38:32 AM
Post by: KingBilly on February 28, 2015, 10:05:40 AM
KB
Post by: edz on March 01, 2015, 11:19:33 AM
Heres the rock cam of what its like atm almost dead low and a fair bit of water all up to the rocks http://www.coastalwatch.com/surf-cams-surf-reports/qld/rainbow-beach (http://www.coastalwatch.com/surf-cams-surf-reports/qld/rainbow-beach)
Post by: edz on March 03, 2015, 12:14:52 PM
Post by: Beachman on March 03, 2015, 12:32:59 PM
In the 2 hours I was swimming with the kids I would have witnessed at least 20 cars run the gantlet around the rocks with all these cars driving in salt water ranging from wheel depth to waves crashing through open windows or over bonnets. A couple of these cars did sink and needed a quick snatch form good Samaritans who put their own 4WD’s in jeopardy. But this still didn’t put people from trying after the 4WD was cleared.
Maybe I’m getting old and boring, but that type of driving is way too risky for me.
Post by: chester ver2.0 on March 03, 2015, 03:07:34 PM
A are you forced to go around the rocks as there is no other way
or
B Is there a bypass track and this is simply the fools shortcut so to speak ???
Post by: edz on March 03, 2015, 03:31:10 PM
http://www.nprsr.qld.gov.au/parks/cooloola/pdf/cooloola-great-sandy-map.pdf (http://www.nprsr.qld.gov.au/parks/cooloola/pdf/cooloola-great-sandy-map.pdf)
Post by: JD-120 on March 03, 2015, 03:34:26 PM
could shave about 30 to 40 minutes on a good trip .
or if not so good......... :)
Post by: prodigyrf on March 03, 2015, 03:40:31 PM
check is page out
http://www.ourrainbowbeach.com.au/our-rainbow-beach/rainbow-beach/mudlo-rocks.html (http://www.ourrainbowbeach.com.au/our-rainbow-beach/rainbow-beach/mudlo-rocks.html)
Obviously no Suzukis among them as they're definitely not miscellaneous 4WDs and naturally they're driven by intelligent discerning afficionados of fine machinery 8)
Post by: BaseCamp on March 03, 2015, 05:22:36 PM
The last time i drove over those rocks was about a year or 2 ago... Prior to that was in the good old days with dad in our series 3 - in the 1970's...
So about last year I am driving along from Noosa - fully cautious; eyes sweeping back and forth - on guard for those inevitable vehicle destroyers .... to then suddenly find myself at Rainbow...
Breezed across the rocks like a sand highway - with barely a bit of a rock to be seen anywhere...
But now today - total "Carnage for Dummies"....
Post by: speewa158 on March 03, 2015, 07:26:35 PM
Post by: weeds on March 03, 2015, 09:19:27 PM
Never been there before can someone answer
A are you forced to go around the rocks as there is no other way
or
B Is there a bypass track and this is simply the fools shortcut so to speak ???
If you drive all the way to the rocks, even with good planning at low tide and the rocks are exposed it's a fair drive doubling back to get to rainbow.
I would say by-passing the rock from the rocks would be 1 1/2 hrs......
Why many are tempted is you are literally a couple of hundred meters for the town. There is a park above the rocks with the caravan park across the street.
Post by: Nomad on March 03, 2015, 09:53:21 PM
I went up on the weekend and the sandspits out from the point were the lowest and most tidally influenced I have seen them in a long time. To the point that if we get another big swell they may disappear for a while
The bit of beach right in front of the rocks seems to be were it turns more easterly again and cops alot more swell than even 100 metres to the south. Thats why I think the gutter there has formed up again, waves break over outer sandbank, hit rock and bounce back into more waves and start to gouge the beach away and the gutter forms. Plus big tides sweeping around the bay into that particular spot.
The whole thing may reverse again next week and sand will form up around the rocks again adnwe may not see another wrecked vehicle for a while.
:cheers:
Post by: edz on March 03, 2015, 10:02:37 PM
Post by: Elky on March 04, 2015, 09:04:26 PM
So I guess the smashed trucks have been recovered?
Post by: edz on March 04, 2015, 10:34:47 PM
Post by: prodigyrf on March 05, 2015, 09:38:47 AM
http://www.thinkslogans.com/slogans/advertising-slogans/car-slogans/ (http://www.thinkslogans.com/slogans/advertising-slogans/car-slogans/)
Post by: Elky on March 05, 2015, 03:02:08 PM
:)
Post by: JohngQld447 on March 05, 2015, 07:55:28 PM
I then told the final story of how it was eight o clock at night, high tide, and cyclone Marcie pounding the coast, oh and they were a group of surfies. First question was how does a surfie afford a 200 series Toyota, Maybe it was Dad's , just borrowed for the day. Root Cause Analysis from the room, complete lack of intelligence. Yes and all our insurance premiums will cover it.
John
Post by: Nomad on March 05, 2015, 09:43:01 PM
You state the root cause was complete lack of intelligence. Maybe, maybe not. How do you know the guy in the cruiser was not trying to help the guy in the Jackaroo, or vice versa and got stuck themselves....no one has reported an interview from the drivers of either vehicle
What does November last year have to do with how the beach is today. Any one who drives on the beach regularly knows the beach changes not daily but hourly. Thinking back one of the worst times I had to drive up and down the beach was in the pouring rain to pick up someone who's car had broken down......didn't think so at the time but I could barely see the waterline and could have easily have put us too low into the surf.
Cyclone Marcia was well past Rainbow by the 23rd and the surf had started to die very quickly............trust me I was at Noosa sitting in the surf watching it drop every set.
If they went in the drink at 8.00pm that night it was about half tide, so on the upper end of what would normally be passable but in this case not so.
It is a complete lack of experience that is the cause of these types of stranding. Night time driving,salt spray and black rocks are a drivers worst enemy, but it takes experience to recognise that.
I think your room's assessment "of a complete lack of intelligence" is simplistic and show that they need further education.
If you have a look at the Rainbow Beach recovery pages you'll see that there is a photo of a very experienced Rainbow Beach operator bogged a bit north from where these vehicles went down, so its not that hard to do. Personally I have had to drive through the lagoon on mid tide when I had a sick child and had salt water over my bonnet, but had calculated the risk....I made it but does that make my intelligence level low?
Cheers Nomad. :cheers:
Post by: Footy Shorts Shane on March 06, 2015, 05:21:12 AM
If you have a look at the Rainbow Beach recovery pages you'll see that there is a photo of a very experienced Rainbow Beach operator bogged a bit north from where these vehicles went down, so its not that hard to do.
Cheers Nomad. :cheers:
I saw that. Did he/she stop?
Shane.
Post by: edz on March 06, 2015, 11:27:39 AM
Post by: Bird on March 06, 2015, 11:31:05 AM
Some close ups of the damaged cruiser in the link too www.facebook.com/rainbowbeachtowing (http://www.facebook.com/rainbowbeachtowing)I see someone took my advice and got the LHS rear blinker out :D
Post by: chester ver2.0 on March 06, 2015, 12:45:33 PM
I used this thread and its pictures for our monthly safety meeting, Tuesday of this week. I asked the group to put forward what were the contributing factors for the 2 vehicles in the original post. Top of the list, D***H***S, idiots that should know better, act of god, (Intelligence level I thought), but no thought of sympathy at all. Add in , What would you expect from someone who drives a Toyota. (their quote not mine). I was trying to use it to show what happens without planning, situational awareness, assumptions, poor information, no back up plan, this is what can happen. I also showed the video of us going past the same location in November. Still the root cause was complete lack of intelligence.
I then told the final story of how it was eight o clock at night, high tide, and cyclone Marcie pounding the coast, oh and they were a group of surfies. First question was how does a surfie afford a 200 series Toyota, Maybe it was Dad's , just borrowed for the day. Root Cause Analysis from the room, complete lack of intelligence. Yes and all our insurance premiums will cover it.
John
The fact that it is a 1 and a half hour double back or go around the rocks the root cause is actually a mistake in the risk vs reward analysis that they used to base their descision on.
The reward is a saving in time and effort and they based this on a percieved risk of picking their way through the rocks, but there is an actual risk of the rocks plus a surface that would not support the weight of the vehicle.
So the root cause is a fault in the risk assessment process of not understanding all the variables and hazards involved. It is a classic example of why when we do large scale risk assessments at work it is always a team effort with experts and cold eyes.
To put this in play simply means did they stop and discuss as a group someone may have gone "does anyone know how soft the sand is" and in my workplace if the answer was no then the job or crossing as it is would not have gone ahead as a key hazard variable is still undefined
What this has to be tempered with is the inherant nature of humans we are by nature lazy creatures if there is an easier, cheaper, faster way of doing it we will almost universally take that option, now whilst that was grat in caveman times and got us to the top of the food chain it often does not work in the modern world with increased hazards and complexities
Post by: prodigyrf on March 06, 2015, 03:00:49 PM
Post by: chester ver2.0 on March 06, 2015, 03:16:34 PM
Talking of 'insurance will cover it', do some policies or their fine print fail to cover submersion or do the premiums simply reflect the added risk? I know with my house the onliner Budget Insurance openly and specifically precludes flood risk (and insuring the NT would you believe?) and as a result touts that as one reason they can keep premiums low (keeps out the low types ;D).
Yeah i have heard of others that will only cover to a high water mark and you are on your own below that
Post by: BaseCamp on March 06, 2015, 06:03:40 PM
It is a complete lack of experience that is the cause of these types of stranding. Night time driving,salt spray and black rocks are a drivers worst enemy, but it takes experience to recognise that.
I think your room's assessment "of a complete lack of intelligence" is simplistic and show that they need further education.
Well not quite - actually...
The drivers in question may hopefully be "educated" now - post them potentially destroying 2 expensive 4WDs
BUT the piper who pays for that "education" is all us other mugs as comprehensively insured - whom pick up the tab on the cost - with higher insurance premiums...
In the unlikely event Brain became (slightly) engaged prior to them entering the rocks; I wonder whether they ever considered their "risk assessment" status okay to plow on... "because we've got insurance"?? grrr
BUT the central point of my post is this....
At what point does "Lack of Experience" become moot????
Eg: in a driving situation - I have "lack experience and ability" to successfully and accurately reverse turn park a 4WD towing a big caravan....
Result - I scrape up the side = "my lack of experience and competence"
Eg: in a driving situation - I am "irresponsible; stupid; and negligent" .... i reverse straight over the top of a mother and her 4yo daughter at a carnival; killing them both...
Clearly that is not a "lack of experience" situation
I can only assume based on what happened at Mudlo rocks - that the drivers were inexperienced in driving period...
THEREFORE WHAT THE FREAK WERE THEY THINKING - driving into surf and waves and rocks on a beach at 8pm.... (sorry if some of the details of the case are inaccurate)??
Their general (I assume) lack of driving time on normal black top roads etc SHOULD HAVE SAID TO THEM ---- NO DON'T ATTEMPT THIS AT ALL....
Were the drivers' drug or drunk tested .... Why/how such "irresponsible; stupid; and negligence" occurs - may I ask???
Post by: prodigyrf on March 06, 2015, 08:16:12 PM
You mean take ALL the personal responsibility for what you pour down your gullet?
What desert island have you been living on? We are ALL to blame more or less because these people are victims of our society-
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/south-australia/penneshaw-hotel-prosecuted-for-irresponsible-service-of-alcohol-to-man-who-died-in-drink-drive-crash/story-fni6uo1m-1227250001829 (http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/south-australia/penneshaw-hotel-prosecuted-for-irresponsible-service-of-alcohol-to-man-who-died-in-drink-drive-crash/story-fni6uo1m-1227250001829)
Post by: Nomad on March 06, 2015, 08:49:40 PM
Well not quite - actually...
The drivers in question may hopefully be "educated" now - post them potentially destroying 2 expensive 4WDs I think you need to reread my post as a response to JohnyQld. I was talking about the people he was getting answers from
BUT the piper who pays for that "education" is all us other mugs as comprehensively insured - whom pick up the tab on the cost - with higher insurance premiums... Do you really think 3 write off's realtive to the insurance pool that is "Australia" really makes a difference to your premium. Yes I understand its cumulative, however I think you will find that much more garden variety accidents form a far greater proportion of insurance claims
At what point does "Lack of Experience" become moot????
Eg: in a driving situation - I am "irresponsible; stupid; and negligent" .... i reverse straight over the top of a mother and her 4yo daughter at a carnival; killing them both...
Clearly that is not a "lack of experience" situation
And not even a scenario that is REMOTELY relative to these couple of accidents. I think you mistake the damage to the cars as happening as part of an accident. That is not the case. THe cars cross over a short section of gutter onto a sand bank and either become bogged or overcome by a wave and stop, or drive into a hole and lose momentum and then stop. What you see on the photos is what is left of the vehicles after they have had a wash in the surf for the night being bounced around on the rocks.
I can only assume based on what happened at Mudlo rocks - that the drivers were inexperienced in driving period...ASSUME makes an ASS of U & ME
THEREFORE WHAT THE FREAK WERE THEY THINKING - driving into surf and waves and rocks on a beach at 8pm.... (sorry if some of the details of the case are inaccurate)?? Rainbow Beach locals have been doing it for years and in 90% of cases there is never a story to tell
Their general (I assume) lack of driving time onnormal black top roadsetcTHE BEACH SHOULD HAVE SAID TO THEM ---- NO DON'T ATTEMPT THIS AT ALL.... Fixed that for ya. ;D
There is no other place that you can drive anywhere, where things can change so quickly, and if you spend enough time on the beach you will see some scenarios that only an ocean can through at you. I remember sitting in line to go across from DI to Rainbow, the surf was about three foot and a freak wave came through and turned a Triton on its side...............
Were the drivers' drug or drunk tested .... Why/how such "irresponsible; stupid; and negligence" occurs - may I ask???
Its easy to say these guys are morons and lack intelligence and are dumb surfies driving mom and dads car etc, but the fact is none of them have made a statement about the situation, and are unlikely to given the media profile that these rocks know get due to the facebook page.
I would wager there are still a sh!teload more accidents on DI beach from stupidity, drugs and booze than Mudlo Rocks, infact I would wager there are a similar number of accidents at similar rock passes on Fraser but because they don't have their own facebook page they don't generate the commentary.
Cheers Nomad. :cheers:
Post by: Nomad on March 06, 2015, 10:16:35 PM
I saw that. Did he/she stop?Not sure. Didn't look too hard to drive out of but unless your there who knows.....maybe stalled?
Shane.
:cheers:
Post by: weeds on March 07, 2015, 08:12:07 AM
Close driving on the beach to the general public??
Post by: weeds on March 07, 2015, 08:15:49 AM
I'm sure it's cause some pain to the drivers.....hopefully that have learnt something out of this.
Post by: prodigyrf on March 08, 2015, 12:51:41 AM
The worry I have is what action authorities might take to prevent this happening in the future..........
Close driving on the beach to the general public??
The nanny state is all for our own good remember :'( :'(
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on March 08, 2015, 06:36:16 AM
The worry I have is what action authorities might take to prevent this happening in the future..........
Close driving on the beach to the general public??
4WD's have been getting stuck there since time began, so why would you have this worry now?
It'll be fine.
Post by: Footy Shorts Shane on March 08, 2015, 06:45:39 AM
Post by: speewa158 on March 08, 2015, 06:47:06 AM
Post by: Footy Shorts Shane on March 08, 2015, 07:08:14 AM
:worthles:
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on March 08, 2015, 07:34:45 AM
Post by: edz on March 08, 2015, 08:38:31 AM
I highly suspect two that I know of that went under on Moreton and Rainbow some years back, were drowned for the insurance .
Post by: speewa158 on March 08, 2015, 09:15:25 AM
Post by: slcs78 on March 08, 2015, 10:37:16 AM
Another pic of the latest victim as posted on the rainbow beach Fb page
Post by: speewa158 on March 08, 2015, 02:59:13 PM
Post by: edz on March 25, 2015, 09:17:49 AM
Post by: Bird on March 25, 2015, 09:24:50 AM
The sand is back " What rocks " .. ;D Low tide two days ago .from face crap .how awesome is the weather lookin though!
Post by: edz on March 25, 2015, 09:44:53 AM
how awesome is the weather lookin though!Stuff of dreams Bird, stuff of dreams [ sigh ] Was hoping to be up there in June for a couple of weeks holz, but its not looking good for us atm ....
Post by: krisandkev on March 25, 2015, 09:49:30 AM
Post by: Bird on March 25, 2015, 09:57:41 AM
Quote from: edz
Stuff of dreams Bird, stuff of dreams [ sigh ] Was hoping to be up there in June for a couple of weeks holz, but its not looking good for us atm...Same!!!!!
Post by: Footy Shorts Shane on March 25, 2015, 11:09:25 AM
Post by: prado2004 on March 25, 2015, 11:24:01 AM
Post by: chisel on March 25, 2015, 11:37:04 AM
I would have thought insurance would not cover this and say it was driving without caution or something like that.Insurance typically covers this - and typically covers people driving through deep creek crossings too.
So we all pay, via our premiums, so that these nongs aren't badly out of pocket.
Post by: Bird on March 25, 2015, 11:50:03 AM
Quote from: prado2004
I would have thought insurance would not cover this and say it was driving without caution or something like that.One member had an engine replaced after getting a gut full of water in it under insurance.
sky is limit.
Post by: Mik01 on March 25, 2015, 06:48:00 PM
One member had an engine replaced after getting a gut full of water in it under insurance.
sky is limit.
If you are legally allowed to drive there, then generally you are fully covered. I don't understand the angst on here about it.
There are cheapy insurance companies that you can choose, that exclude such things - problem is we all want to be covered off road, yet some don't think that others are allowed to claim for it if they have somehow contributed to the claim.
I would suggest that the minute you take your vehicle off the black top, you are exposing the vehicle to a Risk of damage, and have elevated your risk of claim higher than the daily driver who never goes off road. I am one of those who had a fairly major accident off road, which ended up a $14k repair job under insurance. I would claim it wasn't my fault, just something that happened.
Some would say I was a d---h--- by the sounds of it.
Post by: Nomad on March 25, 2015, 06:54:21 PM
Post by: edz on March 31, 2015, 10:53:48 PM
Post by: jwb on April 01, 2015, 04:18:44 AM
Captain Risky ????
Post by: Mik01 on April 01, 2015, 05:08:10 AM
Post by: wilson79 on April 01, 2015, 09:15:12 AM
And they cry when they dont make it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5_kiG8ZSc8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5_kiG8ZSc8) ya gotta be kidding yourself to try this .
Wankers!!! these knobs are the reason why we are getting locked out of places around the country.and Riding on the roof!! WTF
Post by: Rumpig on April 01, 2015, 06:57:52 PM
pretty much my thoughts also, was thinking same as I watched that
Wankers!!! these knobs are the reason why we are getting locked out of places around the country.and Riding on the roof!! WTF
Post by: terravista on April 02, 2015, 09:33:13 AM
I think we should look at this with a bit more appreciation.
The fact that unfortunate Australians with seriously limited brain function have the opportunity to not only be released from mental institutions, but are also allowed to access vehicles in public places is a good sign that our tax money is being spent wisely.
It pleases me that these obvious morons, and that is praise because a moron is two steps above an idiot on the Binet Scale, can not only be trained to drive a vehicle in a semi normal manner, except for forgetting to drive on the bitumen, they can also be trained to actually hold onto the roof af a vehicle and almost competently use a video camera at the same time.
The second part of the video is a bit of a failure though, as all we get is close ups of one of the the morons left nipple and armpit, and a few shots of the top of the underwear his health care worker dressed him in that morning.
Given a bit more funding, our Health Department could train these people to perform the duties of trained chimpanzees, or al least teach them that they should sit inside the vehicle.
It is also lucky that Toyota's don't oxidise, or the sponsors that have supplied the vehicle for the well publicised "Day Out For A Moron" prize would be up for some rust repairs.
Post by: UIZ733 on April 02, 2015, 10:15:59 AM
There seems to be a bit of harsh criticism being loaded on these two.I must vehemently disagree with one sentiment or suggestion in this post.
I think we should look at this with a bit more appreciation.
The fact that unfortunate Australians with seriously limited brain function have the opportunity to not only be released from mental institutions, but are also allowed to access vehicles in public places is a good sign that our tax money is being spent wisely.
It pleases me that these obvious morons, and that is praise because a moron is two steps above an idiot on the Binet Scale, can not only be trained to drive a vehicle in a semi normal manner, except for forgetting to drive on the bitumen, they can also be trained to actually hold onto the roof af a vehicle and almost competently use a video camera at the same time.
The second part of the video is a bit of a failure though, as all we get is close ups of one of the the morons left nipple and armpit, and a few shots of the top of the underwear his health care worker dressed him in that morning.
Given a bit more funding, our Health Department could train these people to perorm the duties of trained chimpanzees, or al least teach them that they should sit inside the vehicle.
It is also lucky that Toyota's don't oxidise, or the sponsors that have supplied the vehicle for the well publicised "Day Out For A Moron" prize would be up for some rust repairs.
To even remotely compare the potential or demonstrated "intelligence" (or lack of) of these two penile cephalics, with any member of the Chimpanzee or Monkey family is doing a gross injustice, to the Chimps.
Unfortunately for mankind they probably will breed, possibly prolifically. :'(
Post by: dazzler on April 02, 2015, 08:41:32 PM
There seems to be a bit of harsh criticism being loaded on these two.
I think we should look at this with a bit more appreciation.
The fact that unfortunate Australians with seriously limited brain function have the opportunity to not only be released from mental institutions, but are also allowed to access vehicles in public places is a good sign that our tax money is being spent wisely.
It pleases me that these obvious morons, and that is praise because a moron is two steps above an idiot on the Binet Scale, can not only be trained to drive a vehicle in a semi normal manner, except for forgetting to drive on the bitumen, they can also be trained to actually hold onto the roof af a vehicle and almost competently use a video camera at the same time.
The second part of the video is a bit of a failure though, as all we get is close ups of one of the the morons left nipple and armpit, and a few shots of the top of the underwear his health care worker dressed him in that morning.
Given a bit more funding, our Health Department could train these people to perform the duties of trained chimpanzees, or al least teach them that they should sit inside the vehicle.
It is also lucky that Toyota's don't oxidise, or the sponsors that have supplied the vehicle for the well publicised "Day Out For A Moron" prize would be up for some rust repairs.
You don't take into account that none of US ever make a mistake.
We are all legends on the keyboard.
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Post by: edz on April 05, 2015, 11:48:57 AM
Yeahh It'll do it mate just gun it we'll make it !!.
Post by: jwb on April 05, 2015, 12:19:16 PM
Back when it had all 3 cuttings. easy as to get on & off the beach.
Didn't drive stupid or anything.
On another beach camping trip I was passed @ low tide by a vn wagon IIRC ( on the rainbow side that was )
Post by: edz on April 05, 2015, 12:40:38 PM
Post by: Nomad on April 06, 2015, 05:46:52 AM
Theres an old bloke who lives on the north shore who takes his gemini to go fishing.
Post by: Beachman on April 07, 2015, 11:18:16 AM
This wasn’t a 4WD truck but your normal double bogie truck you see on normal building sites around Australia.
On the ferry on the way home I asked the ferry guy what’s the go with the concrete truck and it was going to a job site in the little village of Teewah. The trucks theory is if you get enough speed up, then momentum takes over and gets them through the soft sections.