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Title: Australians not very Australian on the long weeked
Post by: LuckyDog on January 28, 2015, 12:38:16 PM
As I said n the "what were you doing half an hr ago " thread on Friday, I have been working along the Mitchelton - Grey town road near Nagambie Victoria and was very envious of all the campers heading along there to a nice spot along the river.
I went to do a site visit today and drove past the camp ground to find camping rubbish left every where.
I just don't understand how hard is it to take your rubbish with you when you leave your piece of Australia that you've enjoyed whilst camping.
photos attached are of general rubbish,tents,mattresses, a TV etc
utterly disgusted and people wonder why areas get closed down to camping.


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Title: Re: Australians not very Australian on the long weeked
Post by: LuckyDog on January 28, 2015, 12:41:14 PM
More rubbish

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Title: Re: Australians not very Australian on the long weeked
Post by: firefox on January 28, 2015, 12:46:25 PM
my pet hate nowadays is cut cable ties.. They are the "new" rope, and people just don't care.
We just moved spots in a "camping ground" and i would have counted about 50 just left on the ground!
Title: Re: Australians not very Australian on the long weeked
Post by: krisandkev on January 28, 2015, 12:47:33 PM
I wonder if it is just how society is allowed to act now.  I say that after seeing on TV and reading about the huge amount of rubbish left at the major cities after the New Years Eve celebrations.  My wife and I just could not understand how it was just perfectly normal for people to throw their rubbish on the ground and the organisers accepting this and having people in place to clean it all.  So is it that although we have the Clean Up Australia campaign we need to get people use to the fact not to put the rubbish there in the first place.   Kevin
Title: Re: Australians not very Australian on the long weeked
Post by: Bird on January 28, 2015, 01:03:07 PM
De Ja Vu....
Title: Re: Australians not very Australian on the long weeked
Post by: LuckyDog on January 28, 2015, 01:08:13 PM
I also use a lot of cable ties camping but every single one is put in the rubbish after its been cut, not hard to put them in your spare hand and walk to the bin or rubbish bag

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Title: Re: Australians not very Australian on the long weeked
Post by: Marschy on January 28, 2015, 01:18:23 PM
I'm missing something here, what do people use cable ties for when they go camping?
Title: Re: Australians not very Australian on the long weeked
Post by: Bird on January 28, 2015, 01:20:10 PM
I'm missing something here, what do people use cable ties for when they go camping?
holding LED lights on, tarps, etc.
Title: Re: Australians not very Australian on the long weeked
Post by: Marschy on January 28, 2015, 01:21:52 PM
holding LED lights on, tarps, etc.
Ah! That's what I use velcro for.
Title: Re: Australians not very Australian on the long weeked
Post by: Bird on January 28, 2015, 01:23:19 PM
Quote from: Marschy
Ah! That's what I use velcro for.

I use tape... lol!
Title: Australians not very Australian on the long weeked
Post by: scarpsD40 on January 28, 2015, 01:31:01 PM
I'm missing something here, what do people use cable ties for when they go camping?
retain swmbo..........when she tells me to of course!
Title: Re: Australians not very Australian on the long weeked
Post by: Reddirtroaming on January 28, 2015, 01:44:48 PM
We to have seen this at many campgrounds.

BUT

Drove into the campsites in the high country near Mansfield on Monday just as everyone was leaving. Have not seen a piece of rubbish anywhere.

Pleasantly suprised.
Title: Re: Australians not very Australian on the long weeked
Post by: Bird on January 28, 2015, 01:49:19 PM
We to have seen this at many campgrounds.

BUT

Drove into the campsites in the high country near Mansfield on Monday just as everyone was leaving. Have not seen a piece of rubbish anywhere.

Pleasantly suprised.
how long you down and around this way for?? could get a Vic group together for a beer at the campsite :D
Title: Re: Australians not very Australian on the long weeked
Post by: xcvator on January 28, 2015, 01:58:55 PM
I wonder if it is just how society is allowed to act now.  I say that after seeing on TV and reading about the huge amount of rubbish left at the major cities after the New Years Eve celebrations.  My wife and I just could not understand how it was just perfectly normal for people to throw their rubbish on the ground and the organisers accepting this and having people in place to clean it all.  So is it that although we have the Clean Up Australia campaign we need to get people use to the fact not to put the rubbish there in the first place.   Kevin

I think it's called respect, or more to the point the lack of it (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-finger007.gif) (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php) and they just don't give a (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-sex011.gif) (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php) and it all goes back to do-gooders and Governments that have outlawed all physical punishments and have tried to turn every body into the same shade of grey which makes you anonymous so you can do and say whatever you like, and if you do say anything you're liable to get a smack in the mouth from the yobbo.(http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-scared001.gif) (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php), then if you take the prick to court the beak will make you the crim, when it's them that should be   (http://www.sherv.net/cm/emoticons/fighting/slapping.gif)

yep, I'm (http://www.sherv.net/cm/emo/angry/angry-old-man-smiley-emoticon.gif)
Title: Re: Australians not very Australian on the long weeked
Post by: muzza01 on January 28, 2015, 01:59:54 PM
I'm missing something here, what do people use cable ties for when they go camping?
Glad you asked, I was wondering the same thing.
Title: Re: Australians not very Australian on the long weeked
Post by: xcvator on January 28, 2015, 02:08:57 PM
I'm missing something here, what do people use cable ties for when they go camping?
Same as some people have whips in the bedroom  :angel: :angel:
Title: Re: Australians not very Australian on the long weeked
Post by: Mace on January 28, 2015, 02:32:46 PM
We to have seen this at many campgrounds.

BUT

Drove into the campsites in the high country near Mansfield on Monday just as everyone was leaving. Have not seen a piece of rubbish anywhere.

Pleasantly suprised.

Yep, I can understand that, the Ranger there used to be a real mongrel!   8)   ;D

Seriously, there's an old saying from my NPS days that springs to mind, the higher the altitude, the better the camper.
Title: Re: Australians not very Australian on the long weeked
Post by: firefox on January 28, 2015, 02:38:42 PM
we see alot of camps that use cable ties for keeping tarps attached to poles, and even shade cloth.
I have to admit if i am staying somewhere for a while i've used one or 2 cable ties.

We have a rule, though whenever i leave a location the "last" job for the wife and kids is to walk over the entire campsite and collect "anything" including little wrappers, bottle tops etc. Although we keep a pretty clean camp that last check always gets a couple of little things..
Title: Re: Australians not very Australian on the long weeked
Post by: Reddirtroaming on January 28, 2015, 02:50:55 PM
how long you down and around this way for?? could get a Vic group together for a beer at the campsite :D

Only until Friday morning, currently camped at Noonans hut. But heading further south after that. Got to get car serviced on Monday morning in Traralgon. So will be looking at finding a camp down that way. Then heading towards Dargo after that.

May be it's so clean in the high country because you can have a fire & they burn all their rubbish??  :D
Title: Re: Australians not very Australian on the long weeked
Post by: Marschy on January 28, 2015, 03:01:04 PM
we see alot of camps that use cable ties for keeping tarps attached to poles, and even shade cloth.
I have to admit if i am staying somewhere for a while i've used one or 2 cable ties.

We have a rule, though whenever i leave a location the "last" job for the wife and kids is to walk over the entire campsite and collect "anything" including little wrappers, bottle tops etc. Although we keep a pretty clean camp that last check always gets a couple of little things..
Emu bobbing we call that
Title: Re: Australians not very Australian on the long weeked
Post by: tracker on January 28, 2015, 03:01:44 PM
we see alot of camps that use cable ties for keeping tarps attached to poles, and even shade cloth.
I have to admit if i am staying somewhere for a while i've used one or 2 cable ties.

We have a rule, though whenever i leave a location the "last" job for the wife and kids is to walk over the entire campsite and collect "anything" including little wrappers, bottle tops etc. Although we keep a pretty clean camp that last check always gets a couple of little things..
            High 5's to Firefox.....We do the old emu bob as well.....Don't take long !!!   If every one did this simple manoeuvre it would solve a heap ....  :cup:
Title: Re: Australians not very Australian on the long weeked
Post by: baldheadedgit on January 28, 2015, 03:03:52 PM
http://www.sherv.net/cm/emo/angry/angry-old-man-smiley-emoticon.gif (http://www.sherv.net/cm/emo/angry/angry-old-man-smiley-emoticon.gif)     i like this bloke.   :cup:
Title: Re: Australians not very Australian on the long weeked
Post by: briann532 on January 28, 2015, 03:08:07 PM
http://www.sherv.net/cm/emo/angry/angry-old-man-smiley-emoticon.gif (http://www.sherv.net/cm/emo/angry/angry-old-man-smiley-emoticon.gif)     i like this bloke.   :cup:


No offence, but perhaps you should have asked before posting my photo on the internet.................... ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Australians not very Australian on the long weeked
Post by: LuckyDog on January 28, 2015, 03:19:18 PM
pmsl @ xcvator
 :cup: :cup: :cup:
Title: Re: Australians not very Australian on the long weeked
Post by: theins on January 28, 2015, 04:24:33 PM
This behaviour irritates me to no end!!!

We always check the campsite that there is nothing left behind when we leave.

Take only Pictures - Leave only footprints...  THIS IS NOT DIFFICULT!!!!!!! >:(

Title: Re: Australians not very Australian on the long weeked
Post by: LuckyDog on January 28, 2015, 04:59:27 PM
No not hard @ all

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Title: Re: Australians not very Australian on the long weeked
Post by: Rumpig on January 28, 2015, 05:24:22 PM
I wonder if it is just how society is allowed to act now.  I say that after seeing on TV and reading about the huge amount of rubbish left at the major cities after the New Years Eve celebrations.  My wife and I just could not understand how it was just perfectly normal for people to throw their rubbish on the ground and the organisers accepting this and having people in place to clean it all.
Was the same at the ODI cricket game we attended at Hobart last week.....we managed to throw all our rubbish in the bins they had there, yet people think it's fine to throw their rubbish on the ground so it rolls down the hill onto the people in front of them's blankets etc. I quiet enjoyed being at a sports event and being able to sit on a grassey hill to watch the game for a change versus being in seats as most major sports fields are now days, but the grubs throwing their rubbish on the ground above us really peaved me off big time.
Title: Re: Australians not very Australian on the long weeked
Post by: Mallory Black on January 28, 2015, 06:40:53 PM
Sandy Cape, August 2013 left behind by morons who don't want to touch that 'dirty thing'
Title: Re: Australians not very Australian on the long weeked
Post by: Elky on January 28, 2015, 07:16:06 PM
Wow^^^^^^

I would of thought the effort to get to sandy cape to get away from crowds would mean you cherish the untouched paradise that it is? Or is the sandy cape gettin busier these days?  Fair dinkum that is a disgrace , I would like to shove the offenders face in that lot!

Grrrrrr!
Title: Re: Australians not very Australian on the long weeked
Post by: heath74 on January 28, 2015, 07:24:19 PM
I'm missing something here, what do people use cable ties for when they go camping?

Keeping swags closed, the swag owner may or may not be sleeping during application.
Title: Re: Australians not very Australian on the long weeked
Post by: Marschy on January 28, 2015, 07:26:17 PM
Keeping swags closed, the swag owner may or may not be sleeping during application.
Phew, I thought it may have been to save midnight trips to the loo.
Title: Re: Australians not very Australian on the long weeked
Post by: oldmate on January 28, 2015, 07:57:08 PM
Wow^^^^^^

I would of thought the effort to get to sandy cape to get away from crowds would mean you cherish the untouched paradise that it is? Or is the sandy cape gettin busier these days?  Fair dinkum that is a disgrace , I would like to shove the offenders face in that lot!

Grrrrrr!

yep thats just plain feral.  And they will whinge when NP, says, thats it, no more fraser island for anyone. >:(
Title: Re: Australians not very Australian on the long weeked
Post by: JD-120 on January 28, 2015, 08:03:46 PM
phew, looks like the cyclists are off the hook for a while then :)
Title: Re: Australians not very Australian on the long weeked
Post by: Bird on January 28, 2015, 08:05:52 PM
yep thats just plain feral.  And they will whinge when NP, says, thats it, no more fraser island for anyone. >:(
do you really think they would give a Shit?? they would just rip out the gate and go anyway....

normal humans would be ****ed off that they could no longer access the place, specially people who have never been...
Title: Re: Australians not very Australian on the long weeked
Post by: terravista on January 29, 2015, 07:00:42 AM
Ah! That's what I use velcro for.


Apparently velcro quality has reduce drastically. You just need to see how often the pussy cricketers adjust thier gloves every ball. I wouldn't be trusting any decent equipment to it's strength.
Title: Re: Australians not very Australian on the long weeked
Post by: Sawed-Off on January 29, 2015, 07:10:05 AM
my pet hate nowadays is cut cable ties..
Mine is the ring pulls on beers cans. You take cans so you don't have broken glass. Why then break the flipping things off and chuck them on the ground?
Title: Re: Australians not very Australian on the long weeked
Post by: oldmate on January 29, 2015, 07:58:35 AM
do you really think they would give a ****?? they would just rip out the gate and go anyway....

normal humans would be ****ed off that they could no longer access the place, specially people who have never been...

Yeah probably right
Title: Re: Australians not very Australian on the long weeked
Post by: Mallory Black on January 29, 2015, 07:20:00 PM
I do like the middle one though.......
Title: Re: Australians not very Australian on the long weeked
Post by: speewa158 on January 30, 2015, 06:23:32 AM
We to have seen this at many campgrounds.

BUT

Drove into the campsites in the high country near Mansfield on Monday just as everyone was leaving. Have not seen a piece of rubbish anywhere.

Pleasantly suprised.


lf you were in the Van with the white Tug at about lunchtime , you must have eaten a lot of dust  :cheers: Go past Sheepyard Flat to Tunnel Bend camp site with the horse yards & go up to the last camp at the end of the road . Really Top Spot    :cheers:
Title: Re: Australians not very Australian on the long weeked
Post by: Footy Shorts Shane on January 30, 2015, 07:02:40 AM
phew, looks like the cyclists are off the hook for a while then :)

QPS are looking for these two, to assist with their investigation  ;D

Title: Re: Australians not very Australian on the long weeked
Post by: Kangaron on January 30, 2015, 07:51:02 AM
QPS are looking for these two, to assist with their investigation  ;D

There they go again, riding two abreast.  GGRRRRR
Title: Re: Australians not very Australian on the long weeked
Post by: Bird on January 30, 2015, 07:56:14 AM
and no helmets...
Title: Re: Australians not very Australian on the long weeked
Post by: JD-120 on January 30, 2015, 09:06:46 AM
Lol. They will get bogged, they didn't air down
Title: Re: Australians not very Australian on the long weeked
Post by: gclan on January 30, 2015, 09:35:50 AM
There's a tv show on foxtel called crowd control, and they run experiments trying to change human behaviour.

They actually got people in New Orleans to race each other to pick up rubbish after they created a trivia game with 3 holes marked a, b and c, and you put a piece of rubbish in the hole to indicate your answer. If you get it right, you get a ticket. You needed 5 tickets to get a drink in the bars, so people were picking up rubbish off the streets to play and get drink tickets.

I know that won't suit our bush environment, but maybe we could modify the idea to suit? Points towards free camping in National Parks perhaps?
Title: Re: Australians not very Australian on the long weeked
Post by: speewa158 on January 31, 2015, 06:15:50 AM
We use spring clamps from Office works to hold lights to canvas , no waste . Saddle some camp ground warriors cant tie knots so they have to use cable ties . lm amazed that they can get as far as they have to bugger the bush  :cheers:
Title: Re: Australians not very Australian on the long weeked
Post by: oldmate on January 31, 2015, 06:22:35 AM
There they go again, riding two abreast.  GGRRRRR

And not in the bike lane, their is probably a row of traffic behind them, and they don't care, why? Cause they can.  ;D