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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: McGirr on May 29, 2013, 04:59:02 PM
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Well the cruiser had all of a sudden started making a clunking sound and after going to 2 mechanics the bearings at the bottom of the motor went putting metal shavings through the motor.
The verdict a re conditioned motor plus the radiator was not the best. Total cost $11,000 :'(
The mechanic said the damage to the motor was too much to rebuild and it was better to get another.
After the initial shock and adding more money on top of spending the $11,000 to buy another cruiser I decided to get it done. :'(
The mechanic said everything else is in great condition with the car. At least I will have the cruiser buried with me in the future. It only had 136,000 on the clock.
We are not sure how it happened but it did and it will be ready in a weeks time to give it a good run in before the Gulf Trip.
Donations can be sent and tax deductible ;D
Mark
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If it makes you feel better, we put a $4,900 gearbox rebuild on the auto in our Jeep in January this year.
Its a Jeep thing.... :D
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Bugger!
That sucks mate - I really feel for you. Still - it could have been worse if it let go half way across the gulf. At least you get to repair it on your terms. Not much comfort given the $$$s involved, I know. All the best with the rebuild.
Cheers,
Matto
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Ouch and only having done 136k, at least at the end of if you will get many many more yrs of traveling outta her
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This 4wding/travelling gig is an expensive hobby, but it's always worth it in the end.
Hope this means you'll have a trouble free trip then :)
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Bugger Mark. But better than in the middle of nowhere and having to pull out of the trip plus organise tows and finding a way back home. Eleven big ones must hurt. I would have to sell a kidney ;D Good luck with everything.
KB
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Man, I thought I had made a dent in the wallet when I bought a new camera lens...
That sucks mate, at least you can get it fixed before the trip.
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That's 1 serious hit, Mark.
Looking forward to getting the full story at Normanton.
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Could some one not have towed you. It worked at Noalns ;D
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The shock has not hit yet but as mentioned better here than stuck in the middle of nowhere.
I will have to save the drinking till the trip.
I have a kidney for sale, rarely abused ;D
Mark
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I have a kidney for sale, rarely abused
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Did you find it on ebay??
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Sh$t Mark, is it the petty or the diesel?
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Sh$t Mark, is it the petty or the diesel?
Petrol
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I guess we're back to plan "A" where I have to sell my body at each stop on the Gulf trip :'( . That means we're gunna starve ;D . Time to get out there and sell a few more properities mate.
One day ( a long time from now ) we'll look back at this an laugh :-\ .
Don't forget to bring an oil filter and oil because that new donk will need an oil change on the trip,
Cheers
The Co Pilot :cheers:
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Petrol
Did the mechanic shed any light on why the bearings failed so early in life?
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I guess we're back to plan "A" where I have to sell my body at each stop on the Gulf trip :'( . That means we're gunna starve ;D . Time to get out there and sell a few more properities mate.
One day ( a long time from now ) we'll look back at this an laugh :-\ .
Don't forget to bring an oil filter and oil because that new donk will need an oil change on the trip,
Cheers
The Co Pilot :cheers:
Thanks JK, mate if you can sing we might do some entertaining each night . I will hand the plate around ;D
Mark
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Done :cup:
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Did the mechanic shed any light on why the bearings failed so early in life?
No he was scratching his head also. But I suppose these things happen, ooh the pain.
Mark
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Thanks JK, mate if you can sing we might do some entertaining each night . I will hand the plate around ;D
Mark
Ouch...thats gotta hurt...
Between you relying on your cooking for your beer supply, and relying on JK's singing for money for the plate, you are in for one LONG trip.......
BUT then again...if I planned this correctly...........I might have a talk to Kerry.........we might just take along a camper of beer and $2- coins...for that we won't have to prep, cook, wash up, and we get evening entertainment.......there maybe something in this....... :cup:
I'll get back to you......
MarkVS
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You would almost think a partially blocked oil pickup screen limiting flow but not pressure.
Best of luck. :cheers:
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Ouch!
How long have you owned it?
With just 136Kkm in 13 years, it may have had lots of short trips and if it hasn't had its 'severe use' servicing every 2500 or 5000km (?) an autopsy might show the oil pickup to be blocked due to sludging etc
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The verdict a re conditioned motor plus the radiator was not the best. Total cost $11,000 :'(
that sounds top $$ even for a reco engine....
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that sounds top $$ even for a reco engine....
The problem is I could get a motor from Brisbane cheaper but with freight and warranty it was not worth it. I will be talking to the owner of the mechanic business when he comes back from holidays on Monday regarding the price. The old motor has been taken out and the new one will go in today or Monday.
Mark
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why don't u rebuilt it yourself its only a petrol a couple of weekends couple of mates couple cases of good ale and save yourself $5000 big bucks
Just a thought
Redrocker
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why don't u rebuilt it yourself its only a petrol a couple of weekends couple of mates couple cases of good ale and save yourself $5000 big bucks
"The mechanic said the damage to the motor was too much to rebuild and it was better to get another."
but I'd be interested to see what was damaged beyond repair.
Anyway, time is an enemy and getting things wrong is ****ed if your not a mechanical kinda bloke. Some of us have to suffer and pay up the coin :(
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We think the damage was caused by the air conditioner compressor seizing up putting pressure on the motor causing the problem. I went to the mechanics and he showed me the damage with all the metal shavings in the sump.
Still in negotiations with them re price and I am pretty sure I can get the bill down to around $9000 as I also need a new air conditioner compressor.
Re building the motor is out of the question as I work weekends and don't have the facilities to work on the motor.
Mark
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Well Mark that is 2K better off i your pocket. For the aircon, ring this guy Joe reyes, 0407 628 562. Does good aircon work and is the cheapest in Cairns. A mate ofmone put me on to him a few years ago when we first moved up here.
Very happy with his work and prices.
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Well Mark that is 2K better off i your pocket. For the aircon, ring this guy Joe reyes, 0407 628 562. Does good aircon work and is the cheapest in Cairns. A mate ofmone put me on to him a few years ago when we first moved up here.
Very happy with his work and prices.
Thanks muzza
Mark
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Not good Mark, but you would rather it happen close to home rather than the middle of nowhere, what better way to run it in then across the top
GG
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Not good Mark, but you would rather it happen close to home rather than the middle of nowhere, what better way to run it in then across the top
GG
One of these days I will find that place "the middle of nowhere".
Tjupurula
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One of these days I will find that place "the middle of nowhere".
Tjupurula
Don't you live there ;D ;D ;D ;D
KB
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Don't you live there ;D ;D ;D ;D
KB
Nope I lve in a place called Mulan, on the edge of Lake Gregory, but to city people it is probably the middle of nowhere I guess.
Tjupurula
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Mr McGirr,
Buy new motor, stick in Cruiser.
Keep old motor, rebuild yourself slowly, and stick it in a go-kart when done (although, to be honest, that's my solution for any left-over motors that happen to be lying about). It would be a hell of a ride!
Cheers,
Matto :)
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what model cruiser is it? If only the bottom end is shagged do you want to sell the cylinder head to off set some more $$$ ? I need a head for my 80 series petrol motor :)
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what model cruiser is it? If only the bottom end is shagged do you want to sell the cylinder head to off set some more $$$ ? I need a head for my 80 series petrol motor :)
100 series 2000 model. The whole motor is gone :'(
Mark
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Cheers,
Matto :)
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Sorry to hear about this McGirr........ Hope all works out well.
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I see your
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yep, better options than the petrol donk for same price... 12k for that conversion is sweet.
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yep, better options than the petrol donk for same price... 12k for that conversion is sweet.
Indeed, but no way I could do it for $12k. I'd probably have to pay someone to do it too, and then the car is off the road for that long, etc. Plus you have to live with one of the gauges never working, and the cruise control not running right, or XYZ. I've had a imported car before, and it was hard enough getting parts for that and having to explain "well, the motor is from this Aus-delivered car, but the suspension is more like that one...". It's good fun, but living with them day-to-day can be annoying. Having an uncommon engine conversion would be even worse, I'd expect.
When I toasted the engine in the FIL's ute, he had it swapped for a reco engine exactly the same. Was the quickest, easiest, cheapest way to get the car moving again. Also, you know that it will be exactly the same as it was before. Whilst I can see the attraction of setting up to a better motor, I can also appreciate just doing a straight swap. A week later the car was back on the road, all done and dusted.
Cheers,
Matto :)
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The positives is that I will have a near newish car when its all done. oh the pain :'(
Mark
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McGirr,
I haven't swapped an engine since about '88, and then I think it cost me $800- to keep the Mrs, mighty Corolla up and running.
Just wondering how you know, how many klms on the engine your buying these days?
Regards,
Barrabart.
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McGirr,
I haven't swapped an engine since about '88, and then I think it cost me $800- to keep the Mrs, mighty Corolla up and running.
Just wondering how you know, how many klms on the engine your buying these days?
Regards,
Barrabart.
Being a reconditioned motor and a novice on motors I think all moving parts are re done or are new ???
Mark
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Brunswick Diesel in WA do the V8 Chevy Diesel conversions and the engines taken from the vehicles have stuff all km's on them might pay to give them a call ( if not to late ), as I am sure they would have plenty.
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Brunswick Diesel in WA do the V8 Chevy Diesel conversions and the engines taken from the vehicles have stuff all km's on them might pay to give them a call ( if not to late ), as I am sure they would have plenty.
Thanks for the info but I leave in 2 weeks for the Gulf Trip and the re con engine is getting ready to go back in the car.
Mark
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Being a reconditioned motor and a novice on motors I think all moving parts are re done or are new ???
Mark
My error there Mark, I missed the "reconditioned engine" bit in your previous post..... I was thinking you were going for an "exchange" type engine, like an import low klm donk, I've always wondered as a buyer, how a fella is to know where or what the true history behind those engines are...?
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My error there Mark, I missed the "reconditioned engine" bit in your previous post..... I was thinking you were going for an "exchange" type engine, like an import low klm donk, I've always wondered as a buyer, how a fella is to know where or what the true history behind those engines are...?
most dont have a choice due to budget limits.
I know a bill of $11,000 would ruin many of my mates. they would probably sell their car as parts.
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I had to make a decision either sell the car for parts , its in great condition and set up how I want it, buy another second hand one or bite the bullet and get the repairs done. I decided to get the repairs done.
I have had 2 other quotes and will be seeing the owner of the mechanics place on Monday to compare prices. The company does all our company cars. Talking to the mechanics there they reckon it would be close to the other quotes of around the $8600. I still have to get a new air conditioner compressor on top of this and have been quoted about $700 fitted , re gassed etc.
Monday is discussion day ;D
Mark
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hope it all goes ok Mark, its fawkin nerve racking.
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Mate I recall you got that cruiser for a great price, add the price of the new engine job to the purchase price, and you've still got a bargain (with a bloody new engine)......... should serve you well for many years to come, all this will just be a bump in the road. :cheers:
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Bad luck alright ..... could have been worse as other have said. I guess at least you have the pit crew with you on the Gulf Trip and JK will be able to do some serious running in on the new motor for you :cheers:
yogi
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Hope all goes well!
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Sorry to hear the bad news Mark.... Hope the trip still all goes to plan though.
cheers
Steph.
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Thanks guys as they say its only money. ;D
Mark
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Thanks guys as they say its only money. ;D
"Made round to go 'round", as my old man would say.
Can't be that bad Mark - after all it's now 5PM Friday. Everything looks better on Friday afternoon.
Cheers,
Matto :)
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"Made round to go 'round", as my old man would say.
Can't be that bad Mark - after all it's now 5PM Friday. Everything looks better on Friday afternoon.
Cheers,
Matto :)
True Friday drinking night. :cheers:
Mark
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In that case good luck and hope every thing goes well
Redrocker
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So, any word?
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So, any word?
Spoke to them today and showed them the other quotes. The owner was not there but another worker said he will look after me. Will update once I have some more news.
Mark
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Update.
Cruiser has the new motor in and just being tested at the moment by the mechanic.
Goes in to get the new air conditioner compressor and should be ready to pick up Friday.
Still waiting for the bill but it should be competitive.
Mark
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Good news Mark. They're not mucking about....
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Good news Mark. They're not mucking about....
Yes, they new I was on a deadline. Dropped Penny's car in today for a service as a peace offering ;D
Mark
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when you pick it up check to see if they have included a cooling system service and maybe a fuel delivery service as most engine reconditioners speculate that they must be done as warranty may be void.
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when you pick it up check to see if they have included a cooling system service and maybe a fuel delivery service as most engine reconditioners speculate that they must be done as warranty may be void.
Thanks, I had a new radiator installed but will check re the other.
Mark
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With the 4.5L petrol own thing that can catch people out if changing or replacing the coolant. These motors are prone to getting an airlock and do whilst they seem to be full of coolant they aren't, get hot, crack the head.
Solution is to fill it with the front end elevated a bit.
Good luck Mark, you know you've got a good'un now.
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With the 4.5L petrol own thing that can catch people out if changing or replacing the coolant. These motors are prone to getting an airlock and do whilst they seem to be full of coolant they aren't, get hot, crack the head.
Solution is to fill it with the front end elevated a bit.
It's a problem with quite a few cars, radiator below the heads and heater hoses.
Get youself one of these radiator funnels to help bleed the system. Locks on over the radiator cap, spill free filling and allows you to fill up past the highest point of the cooling system to bleed it. Also has a plug for the funnel so you can remove it when full.
(http://i21.ebayimg.com/01/i/001/0b/7b/7a5c_12.JPG)
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Just got a call from the mechanic . The cruiser is at the air conditioner place and I have been advised that the condenser has corroded and will need to be replaced. All up for the air cond being fixed is $1500. The pain of it all. I told the mechanic to have sympathy on me when he gives me the total bill and also have paramedics on standby :'(
Mark
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Sorry to hear mate. Hopefully you will be due for some good news soon. go buy a lotto ticket (if you can afford it after the bill)
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... told the mechanic to have sympathy on me when he gives me the total bill and also have paramedics on standby :'(
Go to the Dr on way to picking it up, and get a some valium.
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Just got a call from the mechanic . The cruiser is at the air conditioner place and I have been advised that the condenser has corroded and will need to be replaced. All up for the air cond being fixed is $1500. The pain of it all. I told the mechanic to have sympathy on me when he gives me the total bill and also have paramedics on standby :'(
Mark
Just remember that first beer on the first night :cheers:
Sound familiar ??
MarkVS
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The cruiser is back on the road. ;D
Still on medication from the bill $11,000 :'(
The car goes back in next Thursday to get an oil change and coolant top.
But now getting the car ready for a well earned and deserved trip with friends.
Bring it on :cheers: :cheers:
Mark
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Hi Mark,
Well done, the price may not feel right but the feeling you get when the cruiser is going well make up for it. My old girl is still giving me a few problems, will still try to make Normanton though.
cheers duggie
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The cruiser is back on the road. ;D
Still on medication from the bill $11,000 :'(
The car goes back in next Thursday to get an oil change and coolant top.
But now getting the car ready for a well earned and deserved trip with friends.
Bring it on :cheers: :cheers:
Mark
Good to hear ya cruza is back on the road. Sorry to hear about your bill. Money mate, you cant take it with you.
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Great to hear your back on the road..and now able to focus on the important bit....getting ready for the trip.
See you (and your now gold plated) cruiser at Normanton !!
MarkVS
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.........will still try to make Normanton though.
cheers duggie
:cup: :cup:
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The cruiser is back on the road. ;D
Still on medication from the bill $11,000 :'(
The car goes back in next Thursday to get an oil change and coolant top.
But now getting the car ready for a well earned and deserved trip with friends.
Bring it on :cheers: :cheers:
Mark
Don't worry about the bill, Mark, you're back on the road!! :cup:
Are oil change and coolant top-up included?? ;D
Sell a few more water-front mansions......she'll be right....... ;D ;D ;D
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hey Mark, look on the bright side..... It could been much worse.... it could've been my car.
Good to see you're on the road again.
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Geoff
Yes all included in the price. It's great to have it back. Will be getting everything ready over Sat and Sun. Taking it for a good run on Monday to see if anything appears. Need to get 800 K's up before Thursdays service. Talk about cutting it fine.
Mark
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The only way to forget about the massive hole in the bank account :cheers:
Mark
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Only one ?
MarkVS
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Show us the level of the bottle this morning McGirr... :)
(http://www.saintclassifiedaustralia.com/uploads/an-empty-bottle-of-j-9383d.jpg)
Cheers,
Matto :)
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Show us the level of the bottle this morning McGirr... :)
(http://www.saintclassifiedaustralia.com/uploads/an-empty-bottle-of-j-9383d.jpg)
Cheers,
Matto :)
Not much change as it has to last me all week. :'(
Mark