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Title: Buying and selling 2nd hand - where are they advertised
Post by: Joff on February 07, 2013, 05:27:18 PM
You blokes who have bought or successfully sold a 2nd hand camper. What media did you use?

I have looked at http://www.caravancampingsales.com.au/buy/camping-trailers/ (http://www.caravancampingsales.com.au/buy/camping-trailers/) and the old http://www.tradingpost.com.au/Automotive/Caravans/Camper-Trailer/Locations/I (http://www.tradingpost.com.au/Automotive/Caravans/Camper-Trailer/Locations/I)

anywhere that stands out as 'the place to be'

Please, just the general sales media, don't tell me how you were lucky coz sold it to your mate's cousin who you met at a swingers party  ;D
Title: Buying and selling 2nd hand - where are they advertised
Post by: Canaussie on February 07, 2013, 05:58:48 PM
Ummmm my swag!


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Title: Re: Buying and selling 2nd hand - where are they advertised
Post by: areyonga on February 07, 2013, 06:21:41 PM
Mine sold within a week on campertrailers.org under Camper Trader
Title: Re: Buying and selling 2nd hand - where are they advertised
Post by: Joff on February 07, 2013, 06:22:03 PM
Ummmm my swag!


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Ummm http://www.myswag.org/index.php?topic=26658.0 (http://www.myswag.org/index.php?topic=26658.0)

Been there 2 months. Think I need to advertise a little wider  :cheers:
Title: Re: Buying and selling 2nd hand - where are they advertised
Post by: Joff on February 07, 2013, 06:24:31 PM
Mine sold within a week on campertrailers.org under Camper Trader

Thanks, I take a look
Title: Buying and selling 2nd hand - where are they advertised
Post by: BigJules on February 07, 2013, 06:47:03 PM
Trading Post is also a good spot to sell, or buy.
Title: Buying and selling 2nd hand - where are they advertised
Post by: BrindiCruiser on February 07, 2013, 06:58:28 PM
Gumtree. 
Title: Re: Buying and selling 2nd hand - where are they advertised
Post by: Nomad on February 07, 2013, 07:00:33 PM
7 day auction on ebay.
Title: Re: Buying and selling 2nd hand - where are they advertised
Post by: Joff on February 07, 2013, 07:05:37 PM
Trading Post is also a good spot to sell, or buy.

I have actually just done that as a first strike BJ. $50
Title: Re: Buying and selling 2nd hand - where are they advertised
Post by: Joff on February 07, 2013, 07:06:28 PM
Gumtree.

isnt gumtree a WA thing. I go take a look
Title: Re: Buying and selling 2nd hand - where are they advertised
Post by: Joff on February 07, 2013, 07:07:20 PM
7 day auction on ebay.

does that work for thing like this or is it more for last resort fire sales?
Title: Re: Buying and selling 2nd hand - where are they advertised
Post by: GeoffA on February 07, 2013, 07:07:31 PM
Found ours on Exploroz..........
Title: Re: Buying and selling 2nd hand - where are they advertised
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on February 07, 2013, 07:09:42 PM
We got a great buy through the trading post.
Title: Re: Buying and selling 2nd hand - where are they advertised
Post by: Nomad on February 07, 2013, 07:22:56 PM
does that work for thing like this or is it more for last resort fire sales?

I only had 1 bid. I had something like 20 people watching it during the process.
I think selling these days is a bit more about getting people to commit to a purchase, thats what I tell vendors who want to sell property.

So I went by mine own rule and it worked.

But I did feed the greed. So I gave a reason for selling and then spec'd everything on the camper, not embellishing but making it sound really really good, and that I was keen to sell and see it go to a good home and to people who use it.

You have to be sensible with your pricing make the reserve realistic in comparison to whats on the market and entice people to bid.

It may cost you literally a couple of dollars to list in comparison to gumtree etc but I reckon it gets heaps more active buyers.

Cheers Nomad.  :cheers:




Title: Re: Buying and selling 2nd hand - where are they advertised
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on February 07, 2013, 07:34:00 PM
Spot on, Grasshoper.
Title: Re: Buying and selling 2nd hand - where are they advertised
Post by: Nomad on February 07, 2013, 07:46:00 PM
(http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSrLSzyH0EE2cvaNCGc2WWmH0yegynm0u0msQ8ryy5jja-3Gs0r) Ahhh Master Po.
Title: Re: Buying and selling 2nd hand - where are they advertised
Post by: xvprado on February 07, 2013, 07:55:46 PM
I sold my last one on campertrailers.org, but I reckon here would be a very similar audience
Are you selling because you have woken up about independent suspension and now want to improve your life, if so my Aussie swag might be for sale shortly and comes complete with two dozen eggs  ;D
Title: Buying and selling 2nd hand - where are they advertised
Post by: dav on February 07, 2013, 08:29:38 PM
Found mine on caravancampingsales.com
But was looking at the others like camper trailer.Org   Myswag  trading post
Title: Re: Buying and selling 2nd hand - where are they advertised
Post by: Chris-Vi on February 08, 2013, 08:26:57 AM
Sold ours on caravancampingsales.com. Was worth the $90.00 fee.
Title: Re: Buying and selling 2nd hand - where are they advertised
Post by: Bird on February 08, 2013, 08:48:26 AM
I think your trying to sell at a **** time of year..  Leading into Xmas and through to Jan, people are broke.

It's probably not the item, or the price (but there have been this exact same thread about 4 times asking why **** isn't selling in recent weeks) but the majority of people will hit e-bay first which gives them a false sense of reality.

There they see a new trailer for $2500 and go that's my starting point... Then go to a caravan camping show and die of shock. Then look at used trailers for $10k + and can't understand the difference, most don't care, many can't afford which is not their fault - we all have limits.

Its like when you see new members with a wish list of the top of the line KK or ASwag and want similar for $5k.

IMHO, for the price you have on it, I'd suggest spend the weekend washing and polishing the **** out of it all, and taking some new photos with good lighting inside, out under and over.
Nice and shiny with nice tight canvas like in a showroom will always look better

Theres another trailer on here for $50,000 + with 3 photos of the outside and a distant shot if it setup camping on a beach.. Doesn't look appealing to me.
Title: Re: Buying and selling 2nd hand - where are they advertised
Post by: noel_w on February 08, 2013, 08:54:12 AM
Disregarding comments made by all around me at work exposing Gumtree as a huge scam market, that's where I found my Trackabout and was just in the next suburb. I had been looking all around on Trading Post, ebay, local papers etc etc. I thought well why not try Gumtree and there it was.
I was looking at one on campertrailers.org but he wanted too much for it and would not move. I beleive it was still there about 12 months later. Wasn't a Trackie though.
I think the more exposure it gets the more chance you have of selling it. Just got to have the right person at the right time at the right place willing to pay the right amount. Sounds easy when you say it quick.
 
Good luck with the sale.
Title: Re: Buying and selling 2nd hand - where are they advertised
Post by: Bird on February 08, 2013, 09:05:10 AM
Quote from: noel_w
I think the more exposure it gets the more chance you have of selling it.
I agree.. I find it disturbing and funny that some people have different prices in different locations they are selling things.
$10k on one forum $11 on another and $7k on ebay
Title: Buying and selling 2nd hand - where are they advertised
Post by: Marcus73 on February 08, 2013, 09:20:02 AM
I found mine on eBay, but didn't buy it there as I won't spend those sort of $ without getting it checked out first. The CT had been put on for 7 days so I contacted the seller and got his phone number. Once the auction ended I rang and offered his starting figure. Yes he was hoping for more,but in the long run I also saved him eBay fees. This also gave me the opportunity to have it checked over by a fellow Swag member. I think the best thing with eBay is the exposure it gives. Just make sure your starting price is the lowest you are willing to take.
Title: Re: Buying and selling 2nd hand - where are they advertised
Post by: Matto on February 08, 2013, 10:37:19 AM
Hey Joff,

Good to hear you're still alive mate!

isnt gumtree a WA thing. I go take a look

Father-in-law bought a bulbar for his car from Gumtree - he saw the ad and range the guy the next day. After a week of ringing around he discovered that he could not buy the brackets for it. Relisted it on Gumtree for the same money he spent, and it sold the next day to a fellow who was terribly excited to get it. You see, he's had these bulbar brackets in his shed for ages...

True story. That's in sunny Cairns, and the bulbar was for an older-model Ford Courier. About as small a market as you could get, yet two sales of the same item within a week, with it being listed for less than a day each time.

tl;dr - give GumTree a go. I was sceptical, but...

I think good, accurate photos go a long way to making potential buyers at ease. Reading your ad, I'm seeing nice pretty photos. But in reading your description "Photos are old ones, trailer is not new, thousands of kms, some red dirt staining, wear marks", I'm starting to think "uh-oh - it's not going to look anything like these photos, sounds like it's had a really hard life, etc...".

From what I know of you I'm confident that you're being far more honest than you need to be, and that everything is actually in quite good condition, you're just not wanting to overpromise and have people disappointed. But Random Joe will be coming from a more cynical position. So I'd suggest trying to find the time to set it up as-is somewhere nice (park, etc, with nothing else around it), and take some accurate up-to-date photos to show the honest condition. I think that would go a long way to making people more comfortable. You're trying to make it as easy as possible for someone to choose your product over the opposition's.

The photos of it behind the cruiser and set up in the bush are gold - you're selling "the dream" as much as you are the camper. And by including them you're showing that you're not trying to pull the wool over anyone's eyes.

Just my unsolicited $0.02 - keep in mind it's worth exactly what you paid for it.

Cheers,
Matto :)
Title: Re: Buying and selling 2nd hand - where are they advertised
Post by: wacanary on February 08, 2013, 03:47:31 PM
Disregarding comments made by all around me at work exposing Gumtree as a huge scam market, that's where I found my Trackabout and was just in the next suburb. I had been looking all around on Trading Post, ebay, local papers etc etc. I thought well why not try Gumtree and there it was.

We found our Cub on Gumtree. First time I had ever used it and as a large sum of money changed hands, I was very, very wary, especially as the seller was selling 2 campers at the same time. However, the guy turned out to be genuine, and all is good. We have a practically new camper at $9k below the RRP for brand new kit.
Title: Re: Buying and selling 2nd hand - where are they advertised
Post by: kylarama on February 08, 2013, 05:54:55 PM
We spent around 3 months looking for our Jayco last year.

Checked the following
Trading Post
Caravan and Camping Sales
Ebay
Gumtree
Plus various forum classified

Ended up finding ours on Trading Post.
90% of buyers would check the above sites, so unless listings are free I personally don't see any real benefit in multiple listings.

Campers are one of the hardest things to get a gauge of 'market value', as peoples asking prices seem to dramatically vary.
Makes it hard for a first time buyer as they see the bargins and it sets an expectation.
I ended up ignoring the year make and based is on condition and features/extras.  I wouldn't call ours a 'bargin' find, but definitely didn't get ripped.

I found I sort of steered clear of ebay auctions as It was hard to arrange an inspection prior.  Seems alot of bidders are happy to bid without inspection and then pull out of the deal when they go to pick up!  So many get relisted due to 'non paying buyers'.

It has been a tough time to sell.  I just had a classifieds surf last night and there are still a few for sale that were for sale back in September.  Page Bro's Jayco still have the same 2nd stock I looked at last September and $500 is the most they would budge on!



IMHO, for the price you have on it, I'd suggest spend the weekend washing and polishing the **** out of it all, and taking some new photos with good lighting inside, out under and over.
Nice and shiny with nice tight canvas like in a showroom will always look better

Theres another trailer on here for $50,000 + with 3 photos of the outside and a distant shot if it setup camping on a beach.. Doesn't look appealing to me.


This X 1000!

Nothing worse than lazy sellers only using their holiday photos (usally taken from 2km away) with all their crap lying around, or a token pic taken of it packed up in the garage with crap all around it.  90% of the time I closed the ad and looked elsewhere as I figured the owner would have no interest in setting it up for viewing.  Also be prepared to set it up for any potential buyers, it's only an hour out of your life at the most!
Heck I just sold 2 old tents on ebay for stupid prices.  I set both of them up properly in a decent setting and took a ton of photos.  One of them had broken zippers and there was still a bidding war for it!
Title: Re: Buying and selling 2nd hand - where are they advertised
Post by: Joff on February 12, 2013, 05:34:53 AM
Thank you all for your input. I have done TP add that attracted not less that 5 spam SMS's in the first 24hrs from bots with bad English skills trying scam me. I'll try some others as time goes by.

Thanks again