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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: jenont on May 16, 2012, 10:06:37 AM
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Hello people,
As posted in another section I have purchased a Jimboomba maddison offroad, and yeah it is finished today! I have chased some quotes to get it transported to Darwin from Brisbane and so far have only heard back from 1 company.....$2000....phew..are you kidding me, the thing only weighs 450kgs! ??? >:( :'( Might be cheaper going by Australia Post.
Given that the truckies have just had a bit of a demo in Canberra because of how hard they are doing it, I thought I would get some fairly prompt replies to my request for quotes....not so.....I have had to contact the 3 places twice to get a quote and still have only received the on....so they can't be doing it too hard because they don't seem that keen to get my business.
I'll let you know how I get on!
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A quick check on Google maps tells me it's 3400klms one way, in my truck that would be about 850lit of fuel @ 4 klm/lit ($1300), a pretty skinny margin for what would be 5-6 days work as a taxi truck, which is the way I run. My normal rate would start a over $10k for that run.
The load you are talking about is not something you do by weight it's looked at in pallet spaces and charged accordingly, your trailer is taking up 6-8 pallet spaces on the trailer.
Your average semi runs at about 2-3 klm/lit at $1.50+ for fuel they are not a cheap thing to run add into that rego( $thousands), servicing and tyres your talking big dollars every year to fun a truck, yet in my experience the customer wants to pay $50 an hour still.
No offence intended, just giving you an insight into the other side. :cheers: :cheers:
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Go and pick it up yourself.
Less chance of it arriving damaged
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Cost us $1300 from Perth to Brisbane i think that is reasonable .
:cheers:
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Hi,
I freight production equipment for shows around a lot and I think the price is pretty reasonable for Brisbane to Darwin. It is not just the weight it is also the volume or cube. A camper is not what they or I would call truck packable or easily pallet-able. You could try Shaws Darwin Transport, they have good rates. The rate also can depend on the speed of delivery. We have got better rates at times when we do not need the shipment urgently and they can put it on a truck to suit them.
On the Perth to Brisbane price, this is always cheaper as the trucks are loaded to Perth but almost empty coming east, so the cost is less. A shipment that cost me $10,000 from Sydney to Perth was $3500 to bring back. Same for freight to and from Darwin.
Tony.
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I don't have much experience with the cost of transport but it was going to cost me $650 for the trailer to be freighted from brisbane to sydney...until I could see they were desperate for sales at the show and got them to throw that in as well.
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Transporting a camper trailer from Brisbane to Perth to Newman WA was $2200-$2400, and that journey is over 5600km.
the Nurse
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yes shipping trailers can be difficult and hence expensive; it is far cheaper to ship a car - a car can be driven on/off the truck etc
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Would it be cheaper on the train, the have at trip to the city to pick it up
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A quick check on Google maps tells me it's 3400klms one way, in my truck that would be about 850lit of fuel @ 4 klm/lit ($1300), a pretty skinny margin for what would be 5-6 days work as a taxi truck, which is the way I run. My normal rate would start a over $10k for that run.
The load you are talking about is not something you do by weight it's looked at in pallet spaces and charged accordingly, your trailer is taking up 6-8 pallet spaces on the trailer.
Your average semi runs at about 2-3 klm/lit at $1.50+ for fuel they are not a cheap thing to run add into that rego( $thousands), servicing and tyres your talking big dollars every year to fun a truck, yet in my experience the customer wants to pay $50 an hour still.
No offence intended, just giving you an insight into the other side. :cheers: :cheers:
Yeah thanks for that mate....no offence taken!
I guess that explains the cost and show's it's not that expensive after all.......it doesn't explain the difficulty in getting the quotes. They must be fairly busy :cup:
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it doesn't explain the difficulty in getting the quotes. They must be fairly busy :cup:
it must be like tradies around here. You call them for small/medium jobs and they couldnt be less interested..
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it must be like tradies around here. You call them for small/medium jobs and they couldnt be less interested..
not just over your way, over here its bloody terrible. And unless its a new build, they don't know what to do it seems. All are only interested in building site work, where they don't care about the mess or care factor. Most are not interested in renovations when new builds are much easier.
End of rant...............
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Gday, it might be worth while getting in contact with someone like kerrys, bridge or even hidden valley ford as they may know of trucks coming up half empty. Also does the factory have a fork lift? can it be forked on to a truck instead of going on a car carrier? Call shaws too, they will more than likely have a apot for it (No affiliation with any)
Cheers!!
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Yes I have a CT in Gympie, I need to get it to Tennant Creek NT. I may be able to get it on a truck in Townsville, so could a few places to get a qoutes from Gympie to Townsville, cheapest was around 800 dollars, so your qoute to Darwin looks cheap in comparasion. I am still weighing up what to do. I dont have the time to go and pick it up.
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Couple of years ago I brought a 6.5m boat (overall trailer length 9m) from Sydney and had it freighted to Adelaide by truck for about $1200. The fella that did this specialises in moving boats between states and his home base is in QLD. I think he manages to keep the cost down by picking up and dropping boats off along the route, and obviously the more boats he picks up and drops off on any trip reduces the cost for you.
You have to book in with this guy a couple of weeks in advance, so he can put togther an effecient schedule of pick up and drop offs, but it may be worth calling some of these boat freighters to see if they can slot in your camper trailer.
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Try pricing a cheap one way airfare from where you are and then hiring a car to tow the trailer home.
Remember you do not need a 4wd or a V6 or V8 to tow it home on the bitumen.
From my estimation much cheaper then a truck.
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not just over your way, over here its bloody terrible. And unless its a new build, they don't know what to do it seems. All are only interested in building site work, where they don't care about the mess or care factor. Most are not interested in renovations when new builds are much easier.
End of rant...............
Where is "over here" cruisindub? I'm a chippy and I prefer to do reno work over new builds. Problem is clients seem to expect to pay new build rates on something that can be much more challenging and time consuming.
Cheers Chippy :D
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Where is "over here" cruisindub? I'm a chippy and I prefer to do reno work over new builds. Problem is clients seem to expect to pay new build rates on something that can be much more challenging and time consuming.
Cheers Chippy :D
I too did your job in an earlier life and how right you are, ,,,,hence I don't do it anymore.
Though I'm seeing a niche market developing in this thread for a, National Camper Trailer delivery service (quick register that business), if the national economy stays up and people keep buying campers interstate, wouldn't be so terrible driving laps of the nation with a different camper on the back for each leg of the trip ;D
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I too did your job in an earlier life and how right you are, ,,,,hence I don't do it anymore.
Though I'm seeing a niche market developing in this thread for a, National Camper Trailer delivery service (quick register that business), if the national economy stays up and people keep buying campers interstate, wouldn't be so terrible driving laps of the nation with a different camper on the back for each leg of the trip ;D
If you honestly look at the costs involved you would think again. I've got the perfect truck, 30 foot tray, only uses about 20-22 l/100 klm, but it is still a truck, rough and uncomfortable. 15 litres of oil per change (10000klm), you can only work for 12 hours a day(that includes loading and unloading) them you have accommodation, tyres are only $600 each and there is 7 of them, if you blow a rear tyre you are generally up for 2.
And most people want it delivered today for $300 Bris to Melb.
It does sound nice but the reality is quite different. I would say the only people making money would be the company who does Jayco's up the east coast.
Edit: If you had a guarantee of 6 campers Bris to Syd or Melb every week at $1500 each, and a few back each week, that would be a business, but without that guarantee I honestly can't see a business in it, but I'm just a truck owner/driver and labourer.
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Where is "over here" cruisindub? I'm a chippy and I prefer to do reno work over new builds. Problem is clients seem to expect to pay new build rates on something that can be much more challenging and time consuming.
Cheers Chippy :D
Hi Chippy,
West Australia mate. Actually thinking of it, I should put this in the "is this typical Australian " thread.
phoned 6 companies to quote for rendering my house. 3 wasn't enough.
1 never phone back. At all.
1 came, poked around. Gave a verbal price,I said great, lets write it down. Ill have to come back
A few days later a quote in my mailbox, 2k more than verbal price.
1 came out for a look, all ok, measured up, all ok,get back to me with a price. After a week, I phoned left 3 messages,never returned my call. At all.
another came,looked at my 100 m2 3 bedroom 1 bathroom house,wasn't interested, said he normally does new builds where there's plastic on the windows,no worries about any mess,no garden etc. Not really interested.
Had another come out,all ok, quite keen, measured up,said get back to me with a price,after a week I phoned him, he said yeah I got a couple jobs on so not I didn't bother on quoting on it.
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Had another one come round, said he can do this, but not that, will do the house, but not the pillars, etc.
Laterfound out he doesn't have a good name at all. Famous for never finishing jobs properly, bit or a shady character. Price was a bit cheaper than the only other quote, but a poor man pay twice. Rather have a good job at a fair and correct price, than skimp a couple hundred.
Needless to say, my house is still not rendered.
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If you honestly look at the costs involved you would think again. I've got the perfect truck, 30 foot tray, only uses about 20-22 l/100 klm, but it is still a truck, rough and uncomfortable. 15 litres of oil per change (10000klm), you can only work for 12 hours a day(that includes loading and unloading) them you have accommodation, tyres are only $600 each and there is 7 of them, if you blow a rear tyre you are generally up for 2.
And most people want it delivered today for $300 Bris to Melb.
It does sound nice but the reality is quite different. I would say the only people making money would be the company who does Jayco's up the east coast.
Edit: If you had a guarantee of 6 campers Bris to Syd or Melb every week at $1500 each, and a few back each week, that would be a business, but without that guarantee I honestly can't see a business in it, but I'm just a truck owner/driver and labourer.
Hi Singo, I should have whacked up tongue in cheek emoticon, I have relos who haul freight and completely agree with ya.
I was more insinuating that it wouldn't be too bad touring the county with a new rig on the back, see new places, trying new campers and getting pocket money to cover fuel, free holiday ;D Delivered tried and tested ;D
Cheers Dave
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Have you given ceva a call. I work for them carrying cars as my cheapie trailer build thread shows. They run doubles to between darwin and bris daily. Dont know cost though only my own costs.
If you honestly look at the costs involved you would think again. I've got the perfect truck, 30 foot tray, only uses about 20-22 l/100 klm, but it is still a truck, rough and uncomfortable. 15 litres of oil per change (10000klm), you can only work for 12 hours a day(that includes loading and unloading) them you have accommodation, tyres are only $600 each and there is 7 of them, if you blow a rear tyre you are generally up for 2.
And most people want it delivered today for $300 Bris to Melb.
It does sound nice but the reality is quite different. I would say the only people making money would be the company who does Jayco's up the east coast.
Edit: If you had a guarantee of 6 campers Bris to Syd or Melb every week at $1500 each, and a few back each week, that would be a business, but without that guarantee I honestly can't see a business in it, but I'm just a truck owner/driver and labourer.
You can run 14 or 16hrs with the right accredatation. I have my 14hr bfm.
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Have you given ceva a call. I work for them carrying cars as my cheapie trailer build thread shows. They run doubles to between darwin and bris daily. Dont know cost though only my own costs.
You can run 14 or 16hrs with the right accredatation. I have my 14hr bfm.
I ask CEVA to mave a trailer for me and i was told they dont move trailers.
Cheers!!
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Ring them again mate and speak to them. They move them all the time i know cos i'm there when there in the yard and or loading them.
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Hi chaps,
Thanks for all responses.....well the short of it is that the trailer is being delivered to the transport mob today....should leave Brisbane on Wednesday and arrive in Darwin either Monday or Tuesday next week :cheers:
Sue at Jimboomba was a big help and got onto to few companies on my behalf just to speed things along. I had on company finally get back to me this morning with the cheapest quote of $1100...sounds great, however I spoke to them Friday 2 weeks ago and got back today....thats more than a full working week just to tell me the cost. That doesn't fill you with confidence, if thats how long the quote takes imagine how long it may take for the trailer to be delivered ???
The most expensive - $3600, the cheapest $1100, what I went with $1980. What I did find through this process was:
- companies took a long time to get quotes to you if at all!
- companies were very reticent to give you date as to when the goods would leave their yard;
- every single company bar one told me they were very busy and or short staffed;
- the cheapest quotes needed the longest lead time, that is it would be at least 2-3 weeks from when you book to when they could get the trailer on their truck.
Anyway, I'll let you know how it goes and send some pics when it arrives. Cheers!
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Also something to check out - the insurance part of it.
Are they insured or do you have to insure it yourself.
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I have to admit that as a tradie I find people expectation of turn around times for quotes a little skewed. I have people ring up the next day for a price. It takes time to work things out, and Im quite often working on more than one quote. I have to quote at night as I'm working during the day. And sometimes it is the last thing you feel like doing after a long day on the tools.
Id be happy to wait a week for a price. I hope you get your new trailer soon ...
Cheers Chippy :D
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1980 is not to bad.
I got my final qoute today 1k Brisbane to Tennant Creek. Will take 3 or 4 weeks, but thats ok.
I know all about qoutes/tenders. You can spend a lot of time doing them, only to not get the work
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1980 is not to bad.
I got my final qoute today 1k Brisbane to Tennant Creek. Will take 3 or 4 weeks, but thats ok.
I know all about qoutes/tenders. You can spend a lot of time doing them, only to not get the work
and out of the 20 you do, you may get 2-3 jobs out of it.
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I have to admit that as a tradie I find people expectation of turn around times for quotes a little skewed. I have people ring up the next day for a price. It takes time to work things out, and Im quite often working on more than one quote. I have to quote at night as I'm working during the day. And sometimes it is the last thing you feel like doing after a long day on the tools.
Id be happy to wait a week for a price. I hope you get your new trailer soon ...
Hey,
that is fine. But tell the customer when you inspect the job, what to expect.
Cheers Chippy :D
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I often tell them that I will have it to them in a week ...it is the people who ring me the next day that SH*T me!
Cheers Chippy :D
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I have to admit that as a tradie I find people expectation of turn around times for quotes a little skewed. I have people ring up the next day for a price. It takes time to work things out, and Im quite often working on more than one quote. I have to quote at night as I'm working during the day. And sometimes it is the last thing you feel like doing after a long day on the tools.
Id be happy to wait a week for a price. I hope you get your new trailer soon ...
Cheers Chippy :D
Yeah no worries Chippy I hear you, but I think your situation is a little different from what is being discussed here. I'm guessing you probably work for yourself and each and every job you look at may be very different with many variables to consider ie location, materials, access, impact on other related trades (will it involve a sparkie, or tiler or specialist core cutter etc). This is different, this is companies that have an administration section or at least a couple of people in the office, they run the same routes every week and they claim to be specialist car carriers, so the only real variable is the distance to be travelled and the size and weight of the vehicle, if they need a week to work that out then they have some problems I reckon! :angel:
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Its typically Australian.
You have to understand mate.
You called them. It means you want something. It means you need them.
They take it read, they can treat you like Shit.
I mean, you did call them didnt you.
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When you get your trailers, inspect underneath for forklift damage before accepting delivery. There was a pretty horrific thread on here about it not long back.
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TRy John Perry Transport. He transported my Ct from Melbourne all the way up the East coast then to Darwin. I paid Ezytrail $2400 and John Perry only got $900. When I picked it up I had a long chat with him and I will only use or recommend JP for any transporting of large items to Darwin from the Eastt coast
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TRy John Perry Transport. He transported my Ct from Melbourne all the way up the East coast then to Darwin. I paid Ezytrail $2400 and John Perry only got $900. When I picked it up I had a long chat with him and I will only use or recommend JP for any transporting of large items to Darwin from the Eastt coast
Yeah thanks for that mate, but too late for me to take advantage of as I have already committed to a company. Hopefully it will get here on time and undamaged. I';ll post up when I pick it up and let you know how it goes!
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Ah damn mate i was gona tell you to give me all the details and see what ceva quld charge me to move it nevermind now. I got mine home delivered for free :-)