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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: Maîneÿ . . . on May 02, 2012, 12:34:39 AM
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Well I have just received a speeding fine on Vasse Highway, Nannup, near Monaghan Street >:D >:D
Problem is the Navman tells me of radar and it tells me of speed limits too and the photo shows it is sitting on the dash, so it was working
I was 9 Klm over the limit, 69 in a 60 zone, so I believe there is something wrong and I am not sure what it is here and now.
Now I look at the overall photo and then check on Google earth for the general area (near Monaghan Street) and notice in the 60 area there are the usual lines in the centre of the road, so I wonder now why they are not shown in the 'infringement notice' photo >:(
Now the question is: is there anyone on here living in Nannup WA ?
Is it a new road surface there now with-out white centre lines ? ?
Thought I would ask on here first as it may save me a drive up there for an obvious new road surface and without centre lines on it as shown on the infringement notice
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You should argue the fine on the grounds that the ugly duckling wouldn't reach that speed :)
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Just pay it, and try not to be a geriatric hoon in future. Remember, speed kills.
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So who are you trying to blame for you speeding? Your Navman for not yelling at you that there is a speed camera, or the local council for resurfacing the road?
If you don't want to get caught speeding....... DON't SPEED. As theflyingbadger said, speed kills.
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69 in a 60 should just be $75 and no points... Consider yourself lucky by 1km/hr, pay your fine and slow down. The new cameras in WA are so tiny they can hide behind a small bush, in the back of a Nissan Xtrail or in those white vans. 50% of the time you don't even notice them...
I've got a Radar and Laser detector fitted to my car (legal in WA & NT) and i almost spot a mobile camera every other day.
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Your defense is you have a NavMan and its in the photo so you shouldnt get a fine for speeding ;D
Good luck with that. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Just pay the fine, And start taking responsibility for your own actions.
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69 in a 60 should just be $75 and no points
i thought 9kmh earned you demerits? 1-8kmh no demerits?
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I think it's a solar problem where as the extra charge from them going through the 6 B&S wire to the batteries has caused the 100 amp isolator to trip and make your car go faster ...
That's my theory and I know I am right ;D ;D
Mark
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I think it's a solar problem where as the extra charge from them going through the 6 B&S wire to the batteries has caused the 100 amp isolator to trip and make your car go faster ...
That's my theory and I know I am right ;D ;D
Mark
don't be silly. it's all down to the extra speed gained by the black python snatch strap
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Mainey,
Have you had any other speeding fines in the last few years?
If not, write a letter to them, acknowledging the offense, say you're sorry, tell them you are normally a good driver, and ask them to please reconsider.
They will hopefully re-issue you with a warning instead.
It's worked for me (twice), the wife (once), my dad, and two of the guys here at work (plus the wife of one of them) whom I told about this unwritten 'loop hole'.
As long as you're not more than 10k's over the limit and haven't had a fine for a year or so, it works.
It may only be a Vic thing but give it a go... you've got nothing to lose and everything to gain.
Oh and I'm not gonna take the high ground and tell you to not speed as I live in a 'glass house'. It'd be hypocritical... of me anyway. :angel: :angel:
LJ
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You should argue the fine on the grounds that the ugly duckling wouldn't reach that speed :)
;D ;D ;D ;D GOLD :D ;D ;D ;D
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Contrary to popular belief it is not speed that kills, it's the big stop at the end that does the damage. I don't condone speeding because my old tug can't go that fast.
Just downloaded an app called Trapster for my droid phone which I am going to give a go. Shows all sorts of traps & is fed by users for mobile traps. Anyone used it before?
Sorry you got busted Mainey but the upside is you hit the magic number. :cup:
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i thought 9kmh earned you demerits? 1-8kmh no demerits?
My understand is "Not MORE than 9km in excess of the speed limit" no points... I've had a few of those... (Head is now hung low in shame)
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Mainey,
Have you had any other speeding fines in the last few years?
If not, write a letter to them, acknowledging the offense, say you're sorry, tell them you are normally a good driver, and ask them to please reconsider.
They will hopefully re-issue you with a warning instead.
It's worked for me (twice), the wife (once), my dad, and two of the guys here at work (plus the wife of one of them) whom I told about this unwritten 'loop hole'.
As long as you're not more than 10k's over the limit and haven't had a fine for a year or so, it works.
It may only be a Vic thing but give it a go... you've got nothing to lose and everything to gain.
Oh and I'm not gonna take the high ground and tell you to not speed as I live in a 'glass house'. It'd be hypocritical... of me anyway. :angel: :angel:
LJ
This has worked for me (5 ks over in 100 zone) and my wife (7ks over in a 100 zone) and for a couple of blokes who I passed the 'magic letter' onto at work (Victoria). The main thing is admit you were wrong, tell them that you take the offence seriously and that it won't happen again (and that you have a clean driving record for the past year or two :angel:). I'd imagine that the NAVMAN/road resurfacing argument might not go the best :laugh:. I'd be happy to email the letter if you think it'd do any good. Fines over here are going up by 12.5% across the board (but at least the budget is in surplus >:D).
FM
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Get a big memory card for your Navman and set the unit to record your trip details. I know of people who have got off fines because of them being able to provide evidence of their actual speed at the point of camera. Requires a court appearance tho.
I have made use of the "good driving record" letter and received a warning letter withdrawing the fine instead. i beleive its a "once every three years" thing here in Vic - ie, no accumulated points in a 3 year period.
$75 fine for 9 k over, you blokes have it lucky. Down here, that would be $130 plus.
Oh , thats right, i forgot, we have no mining industry down here and we're broke. Govnt needs to make $$$$$$$ somehow!
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Oh , thats right, i forgot, we have no mining industry down here and we're broke. Govnt needs to make $$$$$$$ somehow!
Haa, Haa..Yes we have a mining industry but according to our Mr Barnett,,were broke too..because we have to ship all the money east ;D
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Haa, Haa..Yes we have a mining industry but according to our Mr Barnett,,were broke too..because we have to ship all the money east ;D
I thought China was to the North ??? ;)
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Don't forget to let your vehicle insurer know you got fined. If you don't, you may not be able to claim in case of an accident under the "failed to tell us everything" clause.
Kit_e
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Your defense is you have a NavMan and its in the photo so you shouldnt get a fine for speeding ;D
Good luck with that. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Just pay the fine, And start taking responsibility for your own actions.
HAHAHA ... WHAT HE SAID !
i can't believe this is still going on ....
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Don't forget to let your vehicle insurer know you got fined. If you don't, you may not be able to claim in case of an accident under the "failed to tell us everything" clause.
Kit_e
What are you supposed to tell insurance every time you get a fine ??
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What are you supposed to tell insurance every time you get a fine ??
Yep, they're just like the Banks....total bas@#$ds that stiff you from any angle they can.
That's one of the reasons why I drive like a grandad.........ohh yeah....I am a grandad. ;D ;D ;D
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Sorry guys contray to popular belief speed does not kill. Here is the proof.
Speeding Saves Lives (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vfs5-TO5ro#)
Regards
Jas
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hahaha
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You broke the law do the time in this case pay the fine
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What are you supposed to tell insurance every time you get a fine ??
Read your PDS... Theres all sorts of bullShit in there, most is in Russian.
Yes you are.. its all in there.
Bloke in the Missan club's son had insurance payout refused due to not telling them of 2 speeding fines, it all still fresh at the time, they were appealing/court etc.. I left the club. not sure what happened..
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Not much love this month hey ;D
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As others have said if you don't speed you won't get fined. Having said that if you are going to speed its best to be at the upper end of each bracket so that you get maximum value for your dollar!
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Remember, speed kills.
it also makes your scalp itchy...
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it also makes your scalp itchy...
And dissolves part of your nose.
Or is that coke?
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Get a big memory card for your Navman and set the unit to record your trip details. I know of people who have got off fines because of them being able to provide evidence of their actual speed at the point of camera. Requires a court appearance tho.
I have made use of the "good driving record" letter and received a warning letter withdrawing the fine instead. i beleive its a "once every three years" thing here in Vic - ie, no accumulated points in a 3 year period.
$75 fine for 9 k over, you blokes have it lucky. Down here, that would be $130 plus.
Oh , thats right, i forgot, we have no mining industry down here and we're broke. Govnt needs to make $$$$$$$ somehow!
I got done same 9k's over here in Adelaide and the fine was $200+ and we HAVE a mining industry!!!
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should always remember 6okm is the limit not the challenge
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should always remember 6okm is the limit not the challenge
Yep....60 k/ph is the LOWER limit....everyone should aim for 63 k/ph !! ;D
A lot of people think they can travel at any speed they like ( under the limit )... and while legally they can.....anyone doing 50 in a 60 zone.....or 80 in a 100 zone, is selfish and should be forced off the road and shot !!...... or at least flogged !! ;D
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I wonder if mainey went to the cops and gave them a rev, and hes in Cellblock H?? he hasnt said much since!
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I wonder if mainey went to the cops and gave them a rev, and hes in Cellblock H with Bubba?? he hasnt said much since!
Fixed it for you!
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Fixed it for you!
hahahahahahahahahhahhahahahhaha!!!!!!!!!!!
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Sorry guys contray to popular belief speed does not kill. Here is the proof.
Speeding Saves Lives (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vfs5-TO5ro#)
Regards
Jas
Gold lol
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I wonder if mainey went to the cops and gave them a rev, and hes in Cellblock H?? he hasnt said much since!
Just as long as he isnt in block 6BS ;D
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In Vic you can write a letter pleading your case. Clean record of 3-5 years and must be under 10kph. Usually you will get off. However Penalty Payment office has 60000 of these letters at the moment so I'm told. Its clogging the system. PURE GOLD!!!
I hate the cameras as it gives me a bad name.
Donuts :police:
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Hi Mainey,
I doubt anyone has fiddled with the photo in the speeding notice. Sprung fair and square. As you say, the image shows your GPS on the dash (recent purchase).
Forget Google Earth for time frame accuracy (the images could be 12 months old).
I guess you are saying the GPS didn't warn you of the radar or speed limit. You did mention recently that it would be good if all cars came with a GPS. This might be an argument against such a move.
Never trust your GPS for radar locations or speed limits (or even roads). Our GPS often tells us we are over the limit near home. The speed limit changed over twelve months ago. Doing 55 in a 60 zone - you are over the speed limit!!
They aren't the be all and end all of devices. Very handy and quite valuable at times but have their limitations. Such as up to date software. Impossible to maintain for all regions all the time.
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I hate the cameras as it gives me a bad name.
Hey Mods, change his name from Donuts to Bacon ;D ;D ;D :cup: ;D ;D ;D
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LOL
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GPS or no GPS you got done speeding fair and square. Just grow a pair and go pay the fine.
Something to keep in mind that a consumer grade GPS is indicative only, it is susceptible to a certain amount of error. I really don't think it would stand up in court against a police speed camera what would be regularly calibrated and would have records that prove so.
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I think it's a solar problem where as the extra charge from them going through the 6 B&S wire to the batteries has caused the 100 amp isolator to trip and make your car go faster ...
That's my theory and I know I am right ;D ;D
Mark
You reckon there was a little to much juice pumping into the Flux Capacitor from all that 6 BS, opps I meant 6B&S - Holly Gigawatts Batman
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You reckon there was a little to much juice pumping into the Flux Capacitor from all that 6 BS, opps I meant 6B&S - Holly Gigawatts Batman
You know I think you may be correct, however I took more notice of the 'letter' PM'ed to me and all is now good :cup: :cup: :cup:
A big THANK YOU to those who knew just how to get the desired results
Obviously the matter is now closed lol