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Title: Dad shoots daughters Laptop
Post by: Frostd on February 10, 2012, 08:09:54 PM
My girls are only young, but they are being brought up to respect their elders and they cant have everything they want, unless they are prepared to work for it.

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Title: Re: Dad shoots daughters Laptop
Post by: Crazy Dog on February 10, 2012, 08:35:51 PM
Well done Dad... Way to go....

Grrr!!! >:D
Title: Re: Dad shoots daughters Laptop
Post by: MarkGU on February 10, 2012, 08:51:17 PM
i dont reckon the holes were big enough in the lap top  ;D
Title: Re: Dad shoots daughters Laptop
Post by: crackacoldie on February 10, 2012, 08:51:45 PM
Note to my tin lids...those rules apply in our house too!!!!
Title: Re: Dad shoots daughters Laptop
Post by: Chippy76 on February 10, 2012, 09:27:58 PM
My wife and I just watched this together, and have decided to save the link and show our 12 year old tomorrow ...
We have the same values, and expect them to as well. This country was built ofn hard working men and women, not layabouts who "expected" an allowance ....

Cheers Chippy :D
Title: Re: Dad shoots daughters Laptop
Post by: M6sports on February 10, 2012, 10:01:07 PM
I started getting an allowance when I was around 12 but I needed to
Make my bed everyday
Keep my room clean
Clean the pool
And every Thursday help mum clean the whole house BTW my mum has OCD when it comes to a clean house so it was like a spring clean every week hahaha

If I decided on not doing it I didn't get my allowance, in my eyes it tought me how to work for my money, if I didn't do my jobs I didn't get paid

From when I turned 15 I've held a job only being without work for 6months when I was doing My HSC
At one stage working 2 jobs

I'm 25 so I'm in that age group that expect everything for nothing. I'm constantly getting people at work on unemployment that are in the late 20s and early 30s that I bet haven't worked a day in there life

IMO it starts at home I recon this bloke is a champion yes it was harsh but I will do the same if my son ever did that to me

Title: Re: Dad shoots daughters Laptop
Post by: speewa158 on February 11, 2012, 09:51:52 AM
 :cup: At some stage the gravy train runs out so as Dear Old Dad said " You have a good day now "
                                       :cheers:
Title: Re: Dad shoots daughters Laptop
Post by: dazzler on February 11, 2012, 10:06:41 AM

Dad seems such a nice, caring fella what on earth could have made his daughter rebel against him.

Sounds like a carnival ride of a place to live.   ???
Title: Re: Dad shoots daughters Laptop
Post by: Jason B on February 11, 2012, 11:45:44 AM
i dont reckon the holes were big enough in the lap top  ;D

Me either a shot gun would have had a more dramatic effect.  >:D
Title: Re: Dad shoots daughters Laptop
Post by: Tractor88 on February 11, 2012, 01:34:23 PM
If its the last thing I do today, my daughter will be viewing this educational, beneficial and very entertaining video. That there TOTALLY sums it up. What a champion.
I gotta get me one of those 45's.   ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Dad shoots daughters Laptop
Post by: speewa158 on February 11, 2012, 01:40:36 PM
Tractor88 they say the 46 is 1 better    ;D   :cheers:
Title: Re: Dad shoots daughters Laptop
Post by: jk on February 11, 2012, 04:06:16 PM
Auto 12 gauge is the obvious tool for the job, ................that's what I like to see, a father with a pair
Title: Re: Dad shoots daughters Laptop
Post by: Chippy76 on February 11, 2012, 05:08:10 PM
Showed my B12,b7 and B4 this ..... the 12yo reckons he was too harsh ...... the rest of my afternoon has been spent debating his attitude ...... OMG I dont think I can cope with teenagerhood!!!!! :S

Cheers Chippy :D
Title: Re: Dad shoots daughters Laptop
Post by: brickiematt on February 11, 2012, 05:19:49 PM
This bloke is my new hero!!! ;D
Title: Re: Dad shoots daughters Laptop
Post by: Robbo on February 11, 2012, 05:53:42 PM
Way to go Dad  :cup:
Title: Re: Dad shoots daughters Laptop
Post by: Estelle on February 11, 2012, 05:54:28 PM
Didn't finish watching this. Was there a response from his daughter?

Bit hard to make a judgement without her response. How accurate were his comments?

Did she create the message knowing her father would find it?
15 year old, don't we remember what it was like? Troubled years. Interesting times.


Title: Re: Dad shoots daughters Laptop
Post by: DarWen on February 11, 2012, 06:09:09 PM
Dad seems such a nice, caring fella what on earth could have made his daughter rebel against him.

Sounds like a carnival ride of a place to live.   ???

IMO It's not what these kids are taught at home, but what  they are taught outside the home.
Title: Re: Dad shoots daughters Laptop
Post by: Jason B on February 11, 2012, 06:18:25 PM
Didn't finish watching this. Was there a response from his daughter?

Bit hard to make a judgement without her response. How accurate were his comments?

Did she create the message knowing her father would find it?
15 year old, don't we remember what it was like? Troubled years. Interesting times.

Regardless, if she posted what he read out, good on him. The problem with kids these days is they don't get enough discipline, they just push the boundaries and the do-gooders let them.

I have two daughters and am not looking forward to the teenage years. I don't think any of my lessons will require a gun though LOL.

Regards



Jas
Title: Re: Dad shoots daughters Laptop
Post by: Smithy2 on February 11, 2012, 06:33:55 PM
This is gold! Great job dad.
Title: Re: Dad shoots daughters Laptop
Post by: Frostd on February 11, 2012, 06:43:39 PM
Didn't finish watching this. Was there a response from his daughter?

Bit hard to make a judgement without her response. How accurate were his comments?

Did she create the message knowing her father would find it?
15 year old, don't we remember what it was like? Troubled years. Interesting times.





Estelle, that was the fathers response to the initial posting by the daughter(http://www.pic4ever.com/images/97.gif).  I do believe she doesn't have a computer to respond on now. (http://www.sherv.net/cm/emoticons/war/smiley-face-shooting.gif) (http://www.sherv.net/smiley.shooting-emoticon-630.html)
Its interesting reading the responses.
Title: Re: Dad shoots daughters Laptop
Post by: dazzler on February 11, 2012, 07:10:12 PM
Didn't finish watching this. Was there a response from his daughter?

Bit hard to make a judgement without her response. How accurate were his comments?

Did she create the message knowing her father would find it?
15 year old, don't we remember what it was like? Troubled years. Interesting times.

I agree 100% with your thoughts Estelle.

Though I would probably suggest he is a worthless gutless bullying hillbilly POS. 

What possible outcome could this have for the relationship other than the 15yo falling pregnant to billy bob the first bloke to show her some affection.  Course she had no right to post what she did but shes 15 years old, the hormones are going off, seems like theres a new mum on the scene (unless I read it wrong) and things aint going real well.

A smart father, not a bully, would have read the post, kicked the hell out of some inanimate object, calmed down and said to the new mum "Mildred, I think we have a problem here".  And then acted like an adult, not a 2 yo.  Work out what the issue(s) are and deal with them positively without the daughter ever knowing they knew. 

A father is always the most important male, or at least the most important influence,  in their lives. 

Sad story really.

Title: Re: Dad shoots daughters Laptop
Post by: Estelle on February 11, 2012, 07:19:25 PM
Estelle, that was the fathers response to the initial posting by the daughter(http://www.pic4ever.com/images/97.gif).  I do believe she doesn't have a computer to respond on now. (http://www.sherv.net/cm/emoticons/war/smiley-face-shooting.gif) (http://www.sherv.net/smiley.shooting-emoticon-630.html)
Its interesting reading the responses.


Hi Frostd,

I'm a tad concerned for the daughter. Dad in a fit of rage shoots a computer. Well not quite.

Dad discusses with Mum. Dad sets up a video then spends about 7minutes Talking about it, then puts holes in the computer. Cool calm collected. I think he is a bit loose in the head, with a hand gun.  >:(

He is in IT and had to spend $130(?) on software to fix her computer. Good grief, what was wrong with it that needed software that cost that much? Was it a piece of rubbish when they gave it to her?

Some 15 year olds are a handful. Hormones, peer influence by those who have been treated badly (their interpretation) by their parents.  I'm glad we are passed that stage.

I do understand when people feel the way they do though. Can be real hard at times and you can relate to the parents, but, shoot the PC after a long deliberation? Good lesson for the daughter???

Nuts!

Cheers,
John.

Ed: he probably also invaded her privacy. How did he find out about her message?
Title: Re: Dad shoots daughters Laptop
Post by: Estelle on February 11, 2012, 07:26:28 PM
Hi Dazzler,

Good point about finding comfort from others at that age. Not looking good for her at all.

Just hope it works out.
Title: Re: Dad shoots daughters Laptop
Post by: Symon on February 11, 2012, 07:41:23 PM
Cripes, imagine what would happen when she brings her first boyfriend home.
Title: Re: Dad shoots daughters Laptop
Post by: Frostd on February 11, 2012, 08:32:08 PM
I believe the fuunny thing here, its AMERICA, not Australia.  If it was Australia, it would be a .243.  I am not defending the guy, but, it was a laugh. 
Some young people I deal with on a daily basis believe they have earnt the right to have anything they want, when ever they want, without having earnt such a right.  Yes the hormones are running every where at 15, but, is that an excuse to have bad manners, not doing chores at home or treating people badly. NO.  These days we seem to make excuses for kids, because of their age.  What happened to minding your P's & Q's. Kids need to have respect for people in general.  I now step down off the soap box and await any comment.
Title: Re: Dad shoots daughters Laptop
Post by: Jon on February 11, 2012, 09:11:55 PM
With two teens myself, a lot of the issue is a lack of respect from from kids to parents, and in certain circumstances, parents to kids.

When mum and dad are sitting home or at the pub everyday, cant get there s&*t in order, how are they able to instill respect in their kids when they may not have it for themselves.
English/primary language, Maths and Social responsibilities (relationships, respect, right and wrong) should be the 3 subjects you cant duck at school.

Personally, Dad's motivation and reasoning is fair, his method leaves a bit to be desired. I mean seriously, you're in IT and you cant figure out how to limit your kids Facebook access?

Dont worry though, the apple never falls far from the tree.
Title: Re: Dad shoots daughters Laptop
Post by: Estelle on February 11, 2012, 09:33:38 PM
Hormone affects can be very difficult to control.

Yes, thank goodness it is the USA. You almost expect it these days.

What are your chances when your old man is like that. Some can climb over the problems, others are not so lucky or balanced.

Yes, respect people until you feel that individual doesn't deserve respect. Then think again as there could be extenuating circumstances.
Title: Re: Dad shoots daughters Laptop
Post by: Estelle on February 12, 2012, 03:24:46 AM
So how did he do it? Didn't see any glitches.

Ed: He says he is using a 45 with hollow points. Not once did the laptop move when hit with a 'bullet'.
I know nix about guns, but I would expect to see some movement from the cover or underneath the laptop. No dirt or dust seen. No concaving of the lid or splitting (melts the cover as it goes through?).
Title: Re: Dad shoots daughters Laptop
Post by: eldo on February 12, 2012, 06:20:28 AM
as a father of a 15 year and 16 year old daughter i totally agree with this guy, i wish i had a gun and could offload a few rounds in my back yard into their iphones and anything to do with facebook in general..... im only quite young myself as a father at 34 years old.. i can understand the youth better than a father in their 40's however kids today are morons and expect everything for nothing, i moved out at 16 and finished my hsc so i know how hard it is to be a kid and really that wasnt that long ago for me. mark my words here, facebook is ruining our society
Title: Re: Dad shoots daughters Laptop
Post by: speewa158 on February 12, 2012, 06:39:25 AM
My point of view is the question of how long the kids spend on Facebook/ SMS/ TV/learing crap . The tree hugging do gooders  fill their sweet little heads with you have rights & cant be stood over by antbody . So it becomes Me ME  M E ! Team work sharing are no in the lexicon . The " You can't make me do this "  chant wares a bit thin after 3 or 12 months . Explaining or trying to that things will go smoother if we all chip in & do a bit makes the world go better . Personal pride in being part of a team etc .
If your youngens are becoming Teeeeeenagers , buckle up ,tuffen up  & brace yourself you ain't seen nothing yet  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Dad shoots daughters Laptop
Post by: ozbogwam on February 12, 2012, 07:45:34 AM
Pathetic parenting by the father. Should never have got to that stage. He has cracked because of her public display of disrespect. She definetly needs tobe dealt with but to then go and record a video, shoot the computer and post the video isn't dealing with his daughter and the problem.

He's just taking it further than is needed. Not exactly the sort of person who should be allowed to own a gun
Title: Re: Dad shoots daughters Laptop
Post by: macca on February 12, 2012, 08:02:34 AM
He's just taking it further than is needed. Not exactly the sort of person who should be allowed to own a gun

Dam right, do what we do with guns in Oz, take 'em off the good guys and give to the bad guys
Title: Re: Dad shoots daughters Laptop
Post by: jaycamrie on February 12, 2012, 08:19:47 AM
facebook is ruining our society
It all started with Mobile phones
Title: Re: Dad shoots daughters Laptop
Post by: dazzler on February 12, 2012, 08:36:36 AM
im only quite young myself as a father at 34 years old.. i can understand the youth better than a father in their 40's

Sweet mercy I am screwed.

45 and a 2 year old    8)
Title: Re: Dad shoots daughters Laptop
Post by: SteveandViv on February 12, 2012, 09:28:18 AM
as a father of a 15 year and 16 year old daughter i totally agree with this guy, i wish i had a gun and could offload a few rounds in my back yard into their iphones and anything to do with facebook in general..... im only quite young myself as a father at 34 years old.. i can understand the youth better than a father in their 40's however kids today are morons and expect everything for nothing, i moved out at 16 and finished my hsc so i know how hard it is to be a kid and really that wasnt that long ago for me. mark my words here, facebook is ruining our society

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im only quite young myself as a father at 34 years old.. i can understand the youth better than a father in their 40's


really?
Title: Re: Dad shoots daughters Laptop
Post by: carinya on February 12, 2012, 09:36:19 AM
I wonder if there is more to this than we just heard?

But I do see this in a few youg uns I know.

The day I turned 8, I got a watch.

I also got jobs including feeding a menagerie of animals, making my bed, making my lunch, after getting myself breakfast, and getting organised on time to catch the 7.15 bus to get to school on time. 

Thought I had it pretty sweet, as there were kids with more to do than I did.

Not sure if firearms are the way to get into a kids' head or not.
Title: Re: Dad shoots daughters Laptop
Post by: SteveandViv on February 12, 2012, 09:40:04 AM
The point is, that message was for here friends so of course it was full of bravado This doesn't mean she doesn't respect he parents or the house cleaner, it's kids being kids, all tough and full of it. All it means is her Ma  Pa don't trust her and had to hack into her laptop to find out things about their daughter. Personally I asked my kids what's going on rather than getting all gun ho and "hacking" my 10 years olds face book page. Do you not all think that when our kids are all together with their friends they don't talk about us anyway..She was dumb to have written it down but your all going to have to decide where the line is. I'm happy to let my son decide what we see and don't on his face book page, he is friends with us anyway but this is the world we live in with electronic media, better get used to it.

So all that has happened here is a there is now no trust with in that familiy. well done to the Dad. Real tough with his gun.
Title: Re: Dad shoots daughters Laptop
Post by: Captain on February 12, 2012, 09:52:52 AM
I agree that tough love can be necessary at times, not sure if perhaps he went a tad too far, but hard to judge either way on a single video.

But, the use of the gun needs to be put into perspective. I recently lived in Florida for 6 months and EVERY person at work (at the manufacturing plant) carried a handgun in their glovebox. My wife went to morning tea with the neigbours and the subject of guns came up, 3/4's of the women had a gun in their purse at the table!!! It was so alien to us, but normal to them. Even my son could have walked into Walmart and purchased a 22 straight off the shelf. He was into Nerf guns (the foam dart type) but wouldn't get them out in the street at home to play with because his schoolmates all had 22's in their rooms.

Point being, shooting a laptop in the USA would be the equivalent of us putting an axe thru it in AUS, no-one would think the axe was the issue and I think there is no intent by the Dad that the gun was anything other than a tool to destroy the laptop.

Cheers

Captain
Title: Re: Dad shoots daughters Laptop
Post by: eldo on February 12, 2012, 10:14:52 AM

really?
yes steve i think i do, my point being that i grew up in the shadow of GEN X and i am gen x myself but i was at the end of it so i can relate to the gen Y peoples, i had mobile phones at 18 and laptops and computers, brand name clothes etc so i know what those pressures are like, i also knew self respect and respecting others of which this younger generation does not, i should of explained my point better
Title: Re: Dad shoots daughters Laptop
Post by: dazzler on February 12, 2012, 12:39:07 PM

But, the use of the gun needs to be put into perspective. I recently lived in Florida for 6 months and EVERY person at work (at the manufacturing plant) carried a handgun in their glovebox.



Hey Cap'n, reminds me of a thread on an aussie woodworking forum where the post started with something like "I heard a vehicle pull up down the drive and I couldnt decide whether to take me 45 magnum or glock model 18 when I went to see who it was"

Strange world.   ;D
Title: Re: Dad shoots daughters Laptop
Post by: kylarama on February 12, 2012, 02:14:56 PM
As a 35 year old father of a 2 & 5 year old, but more to the point of this thread the stepfather of a 15 year old girl.  I see what could have driven this father to the point of offloading a clip into his daughters laptop, many a times I've had the temptation to put her Iphone in a vice or send the laptop for a short flight off the roof!
Never had to though and never want too, no matter how bad those 'teenage moments' get.  Because as another poster said respect has to work both ways.  I think we sometimes forget what it's like at that age, that 14-17 age is the most difficult in your life.

As bad as our 15 year old can be, I think shes a fantastic kid, from the day her two younger sisters were born she has helped with bathing them, changing nappies, putting them to bed, mostly without having to be asked.   Now she's mature enough for baby sitting, we have no dramas these days going out for an evening and leaving her in charge of both kids, one of whom is anaphylactic.

I do feel for her generation.  While some may say it's warranted, they are without a doubt the most criticised generation ever and it must be hard to constantly have negative things leveled against you and your friends.

Whether people like it or not these kids will be tomorrows boss's, political leaders and most importantly deciding the living conditions in aged care facilities!
Title: Re: Dad shoots daughters Laptop
Post by: speewa158 on February 12, 2012, 06:23:13 PM
If they live that long  >:D
Title: Re: Dad shoots daughters Laptop
Post by: Kit_e_kat9 on February 12, 2012, 06:30:10 PM


This is exactly why kids these days have such a bad reputation:

http://au.news.yahoo.com/local/qld/a/-/local/12878610/600-teens-crash-gold-coast-party/ (http://au.news.yahoo.com/local/qld/a/-/local/12878610/600-teens-crash-gold-coast-party/)

Kit_e
Title: Re: Dad shoots daughters Laptop
Post by: Robertsons on February 12, 2012, 07:49:12 PM
I believe the fuunny thing here, its AMERICA, not Australia.  If it was Australia, it would be a .243.  I am not defending the guy, but, it was a laugh. 
Some young people I deal with on a daily basis believe they have earnt the right to have anything they want, when ever they want, without having earnt such a right.  Yes the hormones are running every where at 15, but, is that an excuse to have bad manners, not doing chores at home or treating people badly. NO.  These days we seem to make excuses for kids, because of their age.  What happened to minding your P's & Q's. Kids need to have respect for people in general.  I now step down off the soap box and await any comment.
Agree with you. Look at the damage kids this age cause on the news every night because of their actions be it verbal or physical.