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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: briann532 on November 24, 2011, 03:52:12 PM
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I bought 2 x 2TB hard drives to back up photos and store my movies when travelling.
Ebay sends me an email telling me the item has been removed and the seller is no longer registered.
I have to file a dispute with paypal.......
I then get the same message for a micro sd card I bought.
While I don't hold my breath about getting my money back.... >:( I just wish I could get the damn items I payed for as I was waiting for them.
Probably better off just lobbing into Big W or JB hifi.
The more dealings I have with people the less I like humans........ >:( >:( >:(
I guess I shouldn't complain, its the first time something like this has happened to me and I've got some great buys on evilbay and sold a lot of stuff too.
Such is life...I've got beer and a camper, everything else is incidental........
:cheers:
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that sucks mate, where are you located?
I'd try umart or dare i say it gamedude for prices on those items if you are in Brisy.
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If you paid with PayPal you will get your money back, 100%
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If you paid with PayPal you will get your money back, 100%
Only if that were true. Read the fine print on the PayPal website. You will only get your money back if PayPal gets it back from the seller. If the seller refuses to pay, then there is nothing you or PayPal can do. If the seller is a scammer then PayPal will have as much hope in contcating them, as you have of ever seeing the goods.
PayPal don't "guarantee" your money, even though most people think they do (including me) and will simply act as mediators in a dispute. How hard they try to get your money back is anyones guess, but with the amount of scamming that goes on I'd say they do very little.
Ask me how I know all this....
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Only if that were true. Read the fine print on the PayPal website. You will only get your money back if PayPal gets it back from the seller. If the seller refuses to pay, then there is nothing you or PayPal can do. If the seller is a scammer then PayPal will have as much hope in contcating them, as you have of ever seeing the goods.
PayPal don't "guarantee" your money, even though most people think they do (including me) and will simply act as mediators in a dispute. How hard they try to get your money back is anyones guess, but with the amount of scamming that goes on I'd say they do very little.
Ask me how I know all this....
How do you know all this ;D
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Only if that were true. Read the fine print on the PayPal website. You will only get your money back if PayPal gets it back from the seller. If the seller refuses to pay, then there is nothing you or PayPal can do. If the seller is a scammer then PayPal will have as much hope in contcating them, as you have of ever seeing the goods.
PayPal don't "guarantee" your money, even though most people think they do (including me) and will simply act as mediators in a dispute. How hard they try to get your money back is anyones guess, but with the amount of scamming that goes on I'd say they do very little.
Ask me how I know all this....
If the itams were purchased on Ebay AND were piad with Paypal AND met their widely published criteria then your money will be returned and has nothing to do with whether they can recover the money from the seller.
Ask me how I know this....
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SCAM = Some Creep After Money 8)
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If the items were purchased on EBay AND were paid with Paypal AND met their widely published criteria then your money will be returned and has nothing to do with whether they can recover the money from the seller.
Ask me how I know this....
How many people will have to be asked the same thing ??
If you know something, just put it in print, it 'may' assist someone else
Unless it's BS :-[
(Battery Shortcircuit)
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if the money came out of your card through paypal, contact your card issuer about you being defrauded.
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How many people will have to be asked the same thing ??
If you know something, just put it in print, it 'may' assist someone else
Unless it's BS :-[
(Battery Shortcircuit)
I am talking facts unlike you 'ask me coz I know...... here you go.... http://pages2.ebay.com.au/PayPal_Help/buyer-protection (http://pages2.ebay.com.au/PayPal_Help/buyer-protection)
you know it really gives me the sh!ts when know alls come on and make statements that are blatantly not true and attempt to qualify it with coz I know!!!
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>:( Strewth people, I was just trying to vent........
Perhaps the mods can move this to the electrical section???
:'(
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>:(Strewth people, I was just trying to vent........
Perhaps the mods can move this to the electrical section???
:'(
Too funny Briann LOL!!
You have caused a ruckus LMAO, shame about the scam :cheers:
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am talking facts unlike you 'ask me coz I know...... here you go.... http://pages2.ebay.com.au/PayPal_Help/buyer-protection (http://pages2.ebay.com.au/PayPal_Help/buyer-protection)
you know it really gives me the sh!ts when know alls come on and make statements that are blatantly not true and attempt to qualify it with coz I know!!!
If you brought on ebay using PayPal and were scammed - and had PayPal reimburse you for items you never received..... well, your experience is better than mine.
I brought an PSW generator for a buy it now price through ebay and paid straight after the transaction using PayPal. About an hour after the transaction I received an email from ebay saying the seller was suspicious (did not meet their criteria.... so I don't know how they managed to advertise the item in ebay), and advised me not to pay for it. The email went on to say that if I had paid for it already then I should contact my bank and cancel the transaction through my credit card (linked to PayPal), then lodge a claim with the paypal dispute centre.
One thing led to another and I ended up calling PayPal. Long story short I was advised that if the seller was not able to be contacted (eg was a scammer), that there wasn't much they could do, as they can only pass on 100% of any monies recovered from the seller. The link you provided is terrific, and if you go and read more details in the paypal dispute / resolution centre it goes into more details about how to go about filing for a claim. Most of the wording talks about the the buyer & seller trying to work out a resolution first, if it can't be resolved through mediation, then PayPal will step in and make a decision. If the decision is in your favour you will get a 100% refund. This is all great, but if the seller is a scammer and doesn't exist I'm not sure where they are going to get the funds from to pay you. Nothing in the wording actually suggests PayPal will pay you, they will just make sure you get paid from the seller or the account that is frozen and in dispute..... well thats how I read all the fineprint and what I was told by PayPal when I spoke with over the phone.
I'm happy to stand corrected, but that's my experience and how understand the fine print - sorry if I came across as a know all, it wasn't my intention. Either way, it's a warning for others to understsand what you are being covered for when you use PayPal.
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I am talking facts unlike you 'ask me coz I know...... here you go.... http://pages2.ebay.com.au/PayPal_Help/buyer-protection (http://pages2.ebay.com.au/PayPal_Help/buyer-protection)
you know it really gives me the sh!ts when know alls come on and make statements that are blatantly not true and attempt to qualify it with coz I know!!!
Mate I do believe you are jumping on the wrong person.
If you look at his post again you will see Maîneÿ is just trying to get rotare to tell of his experiance with evil bay.
And I agree with him in that if someone has a bad experiance than lets hear it as it may save a fellow swagger some grief in the furture...
Bill and Morag
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I hope PayPal comes good. Let us know how it ends.
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Oh goodie..... :D :D :D a new fight,,,, ;D BUT,, it's not in the Electrical section...... :cup: ;D
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I hope PayPal comes good. Let us know how it ends.
Thanks for the sentiments.
They reckon it will take at least 30 days.
By then I'll be on holiday and will no longer care.
:cheers:
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here is a cut and pasted copy of my paypal account (doesn't look the same as on the paypal website but the guts of the post is here)
Refunds - 13 Oct 2009 to 24 Nov 2011Print
What's thisTransactions you Unarchive will be moved to your Recent Activity list.Payment status glossary
checkboxSelect all recent Date When an icon appears next to one of your transactions, it means there is more information available or a note attached. Move your cursor over the icon to learn more about the transaction.When an icon appears next to one of your transactions, it means there is more information available or a note attached. Move your cursor over the icon to learn more about the transaction. Type Name/Email Payment status Details Order status/Actions Net amount
Select record 0 10 Jul 2011 Refund From PayPal Completed Details 2YV94894T6875639E $7.98 USD
Select record 1 24 Jun 2011 Refund From PayPal Completed Details 7CK145701W41090P $40.41 USD
What's thisTransactions you Unarchive will be moved to your Recent Activity list.
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Oh goodie..... a new fight BUT,, it's not in the Electrical section
Yeaahhh, and I'm still being blamed :'( :'(
But as Bill has stated it's NOT me that's at fault
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Finally found this amongst the pages of fine print and other "helpful" (more like confusing) information on ebay and PayPal websites:
IMPORTANT: If you are eligible under PayPal's Buyer Complaint Policy, PayPal may try to recover your payment from the seller, but recovery of your payment whether in whole or in part is not guaranteed. Your potential recovery is limited only to the amounts that PayPal is able to recover from the seller.
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Oh goodie..... :D :D :D a new fight,,,, ;D BUT,, it's not in the Electrical section...... :cup: ;D
OK How about a game of KEYBOARD WARRIORS at 10 paces........ ;D
Now to get back to camper trailers......
I've bought heaps of stuff for the glamper on evilbay and never had a problem.
Can't really blame evilbay for some lowlife scammers.
Now if someone has some good links to stuff to buy, I'm willing to give it another go......
:cheers:
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my mother used to sell seeds on Ebay, a guy complained that he never received them to paypal and they just took the money out of my mothers paypal account and then she had to prove proof of delivery if she wanted her money.
her lesson was use registered post to prove delivery and have nothing to do with ebay and paypal.
Of course your problem is if they are shonky there will be no money in there paypal account
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Now if someone has some good links to stuff to buy, I'm willing to give it another go......
Good for finding tech stuff from multiple online and bricks-and-mortar stores:
http://staticice.com.au/ (http://staticice.com.au/)
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I've had a similar experience. Was scammed on a purchase from evilbay, and PayPal did refund my $$ however it did take a few weeks. Both ebay & Paypal were very helpful when I 1st enquired about how to get my $$ back. Good luck with your mission!
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EBay has more good point's than bad ones, i to have made lots of good purchases on there,, got plenty of good bargains and will continue to do so,, i did come close to getting stung on one occasion, but it was only a small amount, but paypal did refund my money. EBay to me is like an addiction..lol cant resist looking on there,, just this week i bought 2 headlamps, cree style @ $5.50 each including delivery and the best of all, a 53 inch (135 cm) RC Helicopter for $107 delivered..!... now that was this week,, the week before...........oh well we wont go there..lol
BHG
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http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=183345 (http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=183345) 27 pages of info on scams
never NEVER buy memory cards on ebay.. your memorys are worth more than a few bux saved.
HD's are worth nothing these days www.msy.com.au (http://www.msy.com.au) or if you know what you want www.staticice.com.au (http://www.staticice.com.au)
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EBay has more good point's than bad ones,
when it was new or its first years I would agree... now I would not agree. theres so much dodgey Shit on there - once a week or more someone posts up "CHECK THIS BARGAIN JAYCO HAWK FOR $2.00!! IS IT LEGIT? with the same photos taken off of Dumbtreee... and thats only the things people on here look at.
Then theres trying to find stuff that isnt Shit from china/hk/tawian etc.. impossible.
Sad but true
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Finally found this amongst the pages of fine print and other "helpful" (more like confusing) information on ebay and PayPal websites:
IMPORTANT: If you are eligible under PayPal's Buyer Complaint Policy, PayPal may try to recover your payment from the seller, but recovery of your payment whether in whole or in part is not guaranteed. Your potential recovery is limited only to the amounts that PayPal is able to recover from the seller.
Thanks for that, i have had three or four disputes with ebay sellers and have always had my money refunded, i guess they just took it from their accounts. Sorry to hear you didn't get yours!!
Happy camping and sorry for offloading!! put it down to new camper wait fever!!
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i guess they just took it from their accounts. Sorry to hear you didn't get yours!!
scammers/smart sellers remove the money the moment they can for this reason.
its your word V theirs... if the money is there, Paypal will take it. IM not even sure how it would go if you had a CC registered with them
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Contact ur bank and tell them. They will do a charge back and paypal will have to pay it. Happened to me over a $800 transaction. Paypal told me not much they could do but once the bank was notified i had my funds back in just under a week. Was lucky!
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Thanks for all the replies and help everyone.
If nothing else I feel better after talking typing about it.
Not really a case of feeling stupid (although the wife would disagree), as I figure for the few dollars I pose to lose its no big deal.
I bought a maco mule the other day as the camper trolley didn't work out, but I wouldn't buy it over ebay -$600 is a bit much to risk losing.
I went direct on line to caravans plus. Great service and have bought heaps from them.
Years ago I bought some of those led replacement globes for the glamper and although no problems with ebay, the lights themselves were just cr@p. It then bought some others from another seller and they have been great. Performed faultlessly for years.
Luck of the auction I reckon. And for the price, I'll take the risk.
Thanks again,
Brian
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Thanks for that, i have had three or four disputes with ebay sellers and have always had my money refunded, i guess they just took it from their accounts. Sorry to hear you didn't get yours!!
I was lucky on that occasion with the PSW generator and acted quickly enough to cancel the transaction through PayPal themselves. Apparently there normally is a couple of hours between when you pay for an item, and when it is processed in PayPal. You can only do this if the transaction is showing as "pending" in your PayPal account .
I too from time to time have had disputes with sellers in ebay and had them resolved, or had money refunded through PayPal. Again, not an issue if it is a legitimate seller with a legitimate account, but if it's a low life scammer you're dealing with (and from the sounds of the description from the original poster it's a scammer), the chances of getting your money back is slim, from my experience and understanding of PayPals buyer protection policy.
Happy camping and sorry for offloading!! put it down to new camper wait fever!!
In all honesty when you read the pages of fine print with PayPals terms and conditions regarding their protection policy, it's no wonder there is confusion. Either way, there's no hard feelings my end. :D
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Sorry to drag this thread on.......BUT...
I forgot to add that if it all goes belly up, I've had an email from a Nigerian banker who can help me.
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Sorry to drag this thread on.......BUT...
I forgot to add that if it all goes belly up, I've had an email from a Nigerian banker who can help me.
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Well i got an email yesterday telling me I had won the Euro Lotto..... Never heard of it !!
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considering the state of the european market your win is going to cost how much with their euro about to go bung? you won 20 million euro, equivalent to a coffee in most other countries;)
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My first ever purchase on Ebay was a pair of Sunnies, Oakleys, seller swore black and blue they were genuine but even cash converters could tell they were fakes! It was quite a rigmarole to get my money back, I had to get proof that they were fakes, some sort of documentation and I think I had to post the lot to paypal in the US or wherever it was at the time. In the end I only got refunded 75% of what I paid, which is better than nothing.
Needless to say I've since made a few purchases and sold a lot more stuff via ebay. Albeit I'm a lot wiser as to what I purchase.
The funny thing is often when I've looked at things on ebay as a buyer looking to buy something, most of the time I can actually find the item cheaper in a real store (be it bricks and mortar or online). To give you an example you can get vacuum bags directly from Miele, a packet for $20 with free shipping. On ebay you pay $20 plus shipping for the same thing!
Anyhow what I hate these days is that you pretty much have to use Paypal to trade on ebay. And if you don't you'd be surprised how many people will send you a paypal payment to your email with a non existent paypal account when you have clearly stipulated that you don't have a paypal account and payment is only direct deposit or whatever!!!
I'm also all too weary of scams where people claim never to have received the item as well.