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Title: Lost Super/Money
Post by: Bird on October 25, 2011, 12:02:03 PM
Saw this in todays paper
http://www.moneysmart.gov.au/tools-and-resources/find-unclaimed-money
so thought I'd give it a go...

The first one - https://www.edge.asic.gov.au/unclaimed/simplequery.html (https://www.edge.asic.gov.au/unclaimed/simplequery.html)
:(

The second one - http://www.ato.gov.au/super/content.aspx?doc=/content/33301.htm (http://www.ato.gov.au/super/content.aspx?doc=/content/33301.htm)
$22,000 in inactive/lost super..
SO I called the company and it is strange as they cant tell me where it was from... their computer only shows them the last 12 months...

Give it a go!


Nutha one is www.findmysuper.com.au (http://www.findmysuper.com.au)
Title: Re: Lost Super/Money
Post by: Mallory Black on October 25, 2011, 12:14:41 PM
Good on you Lost for bringing this up!
There's gazillions in lost super out there so if you think you have any lost super go for it because this is your retirement money.
Let me tell you the govt has it's eye on it to cover it's defecit on it so get to it before they do!

also try ausfund, they are a major resting spot for lost super send from other funds that have lost contact with members, very easy to check

http://unclaimedsuper.com.au/index.html

another tip, if you are rolling from one super fund to another, use the rollover form from the one you are rolling from rather than the new fund.
I find that these funds are happier to process their own forms as opposed to someone elses, in addition not all funds have the same ID conditions so be aware of that.

I have to say this next bit because I work for an AFSL licence holder.
*Before rolling super it's important to seek qualified financial advice
*Be aware that if you roll out of a super fund you may cancel any insurance you currently hold within the fund

Title: Re: Lost Super/Money
Post by: mystq on October 25, 2011, 12:24:12 PM
Just done it, no luck :-[.
Cheers,
Richard.
Title: Re: Lost Super/Money
Post by: Bird on October 25, 2011, 12:29:14 PM
Quote from: Mallory Black
also try ausfund, they are a major resting spot for lost super send from other funds that have lost contact with members, very easy to check
http://unclaimedsuper.com.au/index.html

Nothing there

but mate just found $35k in lost super on the other one :( Bastard always outdoes me.
Title: Re: Lost Super/Money
Post by: LJs GU on October 25, 2011, 12:35:42 PM
The second one - http://www.ato.gov.au/super/content.aspx?doc=/content/33301.htm
$22,000 in inactive/lost super..

I'm an adviser and do this stuff all the time... and that my friend is the biggest amount I've come across in 'Lost' super. Very apt name really hey Bruce?
LJ
Title: Re: Lost Super/Money
Post by: austastar on October 25, 2011, 12:40:04 PM
Hi,
   checked it years ago and found $30 from some dividends that were change from a shares reinvestment that got taken over.
The paper work and running around seemed too much effort for the amount of cash.
cheers
Title: Re: Lost Super/Money
Post by: LJs GU on October 25, 2011, 12:52:54 PM
Nothing there

but mate just found $35k in lost super on the other one :( Bastard always outdoes me.
Nothing to be proud of... losing track of $35k... unless your surname's Packer.  ;D
Title: Re: Lost Super/Money
Post by: mystq on October 25, 2011, 12:54:24 PM
Nothing to be proud of... losing track of $35k... unless your surname's Packer.  ;D
Snap!!! ;D
Title: Re: Lost Super/Money
Post by: Pete_R on October 25, 2011, 01:04:02 PM
You might also want to check out your state revenue office as well for unclaimed monies. For example, here is the NSW website:
http://www.osr.nsw.gov.au/benefits/ucm/find/
Title: Re: Lost Super/Money
Post by: WilSurf on October 25, 2011, 01:16:02 PM
You have started something Lost:

Quote
High traffic
We are experiencing high traffic to our Unclaimed Money Online Search. If you can't get through please try again in a few hours.

Problem with me is that I have super overseas which isn't the UK so not transferable.
Title: Re: Lost Super/Money
Post by: LJs GU on October 25, 2011, 01:22:33 PM
Problem with me is that I have super overseas which isn't the UK so not transferable.
Which country Wilsurf?  Getting it out of Aus is near impossible as well.
Title: Re: Lost Super/Money
Post by: WilSurf on October 25, 2011, 01:26:15 PM
It is the Netherlands or better know to you Holland.
Title: Re: Lost Super/Money
Post by: Bird on October 25, 2011, 01:29:12 PM
http://www.sro.vic.gov.au/sro/SROnav.nsf/LinkView/041395F52E2B7A5FCA2575A100444187CA415EBF65E76C47CA2575A100442060
victorian state revenue office
Title: Re: Lost Super/Money
Post by: Janbo on October 25, 2011, 01:40:51 PM
Nothing for me.... Will just have to keep on working!!
Title: Re: Lost Super/Money
Post by: Bird on October 25, 2011, 01:59:11 PM
Quote from: LJs GQ
I'm an adviser and do this stuff all the time... and that my friend is the biggest amount I've come across in 'Lost' super. Very apt name really hey Bruce?
LJ
Richard says get back to work.. :P
Title: Re: Lost Super/Money
Post by: LJs GU on October 25, 2011, 02:11:23 PM
He aint even here... and when he is he's around Kent's sniffing drained oil. ::)
Title: Re: Lost Super/Money
Post by: Markss on October 25, 2011, 02:37:34 PM
Here's the QLD OSR unclaimed monies register!
http://www.pt.qld.gov.au/unclaimed-money-search/

I've scored $8 out of this - now to figure out what to spend it on!
Title: Re: Lost Super/Money
Post by: Bird on October 25, 2011, 02:49:01 PM
Quote from: LJs GQ
He aint even here... and when he is he's around Kent's sniffing drained oil. ::)
arent we all :D well up until she was fertilized
Title: Re: Lost Super/Money
Post by: Squalo on October 25, 2011, 03:04:49 PM
AUSfund website reply to my query:

We are currently experiencing large volumes of enquiries as a result of recent advertising and advise your query could take up to 6 weeks to receive a response.
Title: Re: Lost Super/Money
Post by: cancan on October 25, 2011, 03:43:31 PM
nothing to all those sites although found some money for my parents and brothers at the trustees office so they will be happy if they can find there proof.
Title: Re: Lost Super/Money
Post by: davo69 and the Nurse on October 25, 2011, 06:16:21 PM
Wooohooooo!

I just found some money on the Qld Public Trustee site! But its only $4.85 : (

the Nurse
Title: Re: Lost Super/Money
Post by: WilSurf on October 25, 2011, 06:17:44 PM
That is 3 liters of fuel. :-)
Title: Re: Lost Super/Money
Post by: Bird on February 27, 2012, 03:45:54 PM
That is 3 liters of fuel. :-)
still?
Title: Re: Lost Super/Money
Post by: Bird on October 22, 2012, 03:58:37 PM
So before this  (http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/political-news/unclaimed-cash-to-boost-budget-by-900m-20121022-280vy.html) happens, check it out!

With the nation's lost super accounts holding about $17 billion, the change will deliver to the budget $675 million in savings over the next four years
Title: Re: Lost Super/Money
Post by: speewa158 on October 22, 2012, 06:00:12 PM
Wooohooooo!

I just found some money on the Qld Public Trustee site! But its only $4.85 : (

the Nurse
Can l hit you for a loan as your all pursed up Tam  :cheers: :cheers:  Fax my some slabs of cans  :cheers:
Title: Re: Lost Super/Money
Post by: Mallory Black on October 23, 2012, 06:21:53 PM
by far the best site is the ATO's super seeker site
http://www.ato.gov.au/super/content.aspx?doc=/content/33301.htm (http://www.ato.gov.au/super/content.aspx?doc=/content/33301.htm)
 There's 2 versions
one is simple and just needs your TFN, name and DOB
the other is more involved but once you are in it will show any super you possess that links to your TFN

also Super Trace, needs name DOB and postcode
http://www.supertrace.com.au/ (http://www.supertrace.com.au/)
 
and for a bit of fun.. just whack in your name!
http://findunclaimedmoney.com.au/ (http://findunclaimedmoney.com.au/)
Title: Re: Lost Super/Money
Post by: Bird on June 13, 2013, 12:04:03 PM
that time of year again to have a search :)
Title: Re: Lost Super/Money
Post by: Bird on June 28, 2013, 05:40:41 PM
Diggity dig.
Interesting.
My uncle died in 2009, and I've just done a search on his name - 2 bank accounts come up in his name, with 2 decent amounts in them.

https://www.moneysmart.gov.au/tools-and-resources/find-unclaimed-money/unclaimed-money-search (https://www.moneysmart.gov.au/tools-and-resources/find-unclaimed-money/unclaimed-money-search)

One in Westpac, and one in St George.
Called The Moneysmart people, who told me what she *thinks* we need to do... ??? ??? arent they holding the cash? surely they know..

Then called the bank, 35 mins on hold to St George bloke 1000% couldnt be ****ed trying to help..
"sorry, but since there is no signatory alive theres no way you can get it mate"... He was in AU, but now I know why Shit goes to Mumbai.

Now on hold with Westpac (only 45mins so far), the poor young dude there was very helpful, and said he would put me onto a senior team member to find out the process to go thru to get this 20 odd grand.




Then, go here and see some of the unclaimed cash
http://www.tag.nsw.gov.au/lost-dollars.html (http://www.tag.nsw.gov.au/lost-dollars.html)

Okinczyc Maria
$1,029,214.00
28/11/2001
Cabramatta 2166
Title: Re: Lost Super/Money
Post by: Mace on June 28, 2013, 05:54:43 PM
I think you may have to notify the executors of his estate of these amounts, who should notify the estate solicitor. Unfortunately it means they will get their cut for extracting it too!
Title: Re: Lost Super/Money
Post by: Bird on June 28, 2013, 06:04:58 PM
Quote from: Mace
I think you may have to notify the executors of his estate of these amounts, who should notify the estate solicitor. Unfortunately it means they will get their cut for extracting it too!
My oldman wasnt told he died. He found out when dad went to call him...18 mths later.

They then contacted the cops to find out what happened to him, but the cops gave mum the run around and all sorts fo 3 bear stories for months. Theres a lot to be said for being able to go face to face with people... You dont get bent over and lied to and fobbed off... Dad just wanted all the old photos and stuff..

So I think I need to start with Trustee's, and faeces.
Title: Re: Lost Super/Money
Post by: Bird on July 16, 2013, 01:42:28 PM
Quote from: Mace
I think you may have to notify the executors of his estate of these amounts, who should notify the estate solicitor. Unfortunately it means they will get their cut for extracting it too!
I'm being ****ed around by professionals..

So far I *think* I've discovered there is no will, and the death cert is misspelt.

Nobody knows what the **** is going on

So far
Banks
ASIC/Moneysmart
Trustees
NSW Law Access

Now I have to call the supreme court for some ****ing reason...
who have now put be back through to law access.


Wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Title: Re: Lost Super/Money
Post by: Tjupurula on July 18, 2013, 10:26:58 AM
Is there any way someone can access super before they retire, if so, how ?
Tjupurula
Title: Re: Lost Super/Money
Post by: UIZ733 on July 18, 2013, 10:47:55 AM
Some information here.
http://www.humanservices.gov.au/customer/services/centrelink/early-release-of-superannuation (http://www.humanservices.gov.au/customer/services/centrelink/early-release-of-superannuation)
Title: Re: Lost Super/Money
Post by: fishfinder on July 18, 2013, 11:01:05 AM
After doing 6 different searches of the 6 different tax file numbers I have I am worth more than I thought --- got to go now cops knocking on the door  :'(
Title: Re: Lost Super/Money
Post by: speewa158 on July 18, 2013, 01:21:56 PM
Wooohooooo!

I just found some money on the Qld Public Trustee site! But its only $4.85 : (

the Nurse
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Don't let the word out you might get mugged  >:D.
Title: Re: Lost Super/Money
Post by: Bird on July 18, 2013, 04:01:53 PM
I'm being ****ed around by professionals..

So far I *think* I've discovered there is no will, and the death cert is misspelt.

Nobody knows what the **** is going on

So far
Banks
ASIC/Moneysmart
Trustees
NSW Law Access

Now I have to call the supreme court for some ****ing reason...
who have now put be back through to law access.


Wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

I give up... going to see lawyer dude that deals with this Shit.
Title: Re: Lost Super/Money
Post by: Mallory Black on July 18, 2013, 09:47:04 PM
Tj
yes you can access super before retirement age. Here's how..in very basic form

Death - balance and whatever insurance is in there goes to beneficiaries or estate.

(OK death joke aside)

Totally & permanently disabled (TPD) - if you are ill or injured and can't work permantly at the job you're reasonably trained for, it's possible to access the super and take benefits as a lump sum or pension.

In some cases, temporary disabled, yes it's possible too

Hardship provisions - various reasons there as mentioned in that link from UIZ

Over 55 - transition to retirement (TTR) while still working. wonderful thing.. salary sacrifice some $$ into super, pay lower tax than marginal rates to put it there and take some back out as a small pension to supplement the income. The Govt has clipped it's wings somewhat but worthwhile if you are right age, got a reasonable taxable income and the right amount in super to start with. For this, best see a financial adviser qualified in retirement strategies who can do some sums a a see what's possible.

I know there's some Financial Advisers on the forum who can also help with general info.
Approach your super fund for info to get the right interpretations of what they can do.
Title: Re: Lost Super/Money
Post by: briann532 on July 19, 2013, 04:36:41 PM
Unfortunately by the time I retire there will have been so many changes in government that the rules will have changed so much, I won't get a zac.

Just like everything else.
Oh sorry sir, you earn too much, you work too hard, here now you must give us some for those who haven't worked.
Far too risky for me.

Self investments, pay the tax now, then whats left is mine.
Of course by the time I retire GST will be about 99.7 percent so I'll be screwed anyway.
They get you any way they can.

That reminds me, I need to talk to my financial advisor in Nigeria, a few things to follow up on.......

Brian
Title: Re: Lost Super/Money
Post by: Bird on April 14, 2015, 02:00:00 PM
Still worth checking!
Title: Re: Lost Super/Money
Post by: tk421 on April 14, 2015, 04:21:15 PM
They don't always make it easy.

Bird read your run around from back in 2013 sounds similar to my grandmother.

My grandfather worked all his life for the British Government in the Army and then police. When he died in the 60's his wife should have got his pension. But as she couldn't provide his National Insurance number (UK's version of TFN) they wouldn't give it to her. She had everything else, wills, birth certs, property deeds, marriage certs, government records from their 20 years together  (they both worked for the colonial government in Africa), ships manifests from their trips etc. etc.

But still, NO.... you need to give us his NI number. So she struggled on for another 40 odd years without it.