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Title: Too good to be true??
Post by: Janbo on October 08, 2011, 11:57:46 AM: Do you think this is legit ??

http://adelaide.gumtree.com.au/c-Cars-Vehicles-Motorbikes-Parts-caravan-campervan-motor-home-2008-Jayco-Swan-Outback-model-immaculate-condition-W0QQAdIdZ320388932
Title: Re: Too good to be true??
Post by: Top.ender on October 08, 2011, 12:00:57 PM: If it is jump on it now!!!!
Title: Re: Too good to be true??
Post by: darren on October 08, 2011, 12:01:36 PM: He says dont use emails through gumtree... Scam
If they were just a bit more realistic on the price they might get somone
Title: Re: Too good to be true??
Post by: mystq on October 08, 2011, 12:01:44 PM: (http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRum9jRwcFRPiYy1u86M44s-X2awOUvRLrvi8gaVVEmYLm4RLzQK5p9GG7NDg)

No way that is legit.
Title: Re: Too good to be true??
Post by: darren on October 08, 2011, 12:02:32 PM: We need somone with nothing to do to pretend they are going to buy it and go through the motions.. Where is D4D
Title: Re: Too good to be true??
Post by: D4D on October 08, 2011, 12:02:59 PM: Ah no
Title: Re: Too good to be true??
Post by: mystq on October 08, 2011, 12:05:06 PM: Maybe I should e-mail him, see how far he goes.
Title: Re: Too good to be true??
Post by: D4D on October 08, 2011, 12:06:28 PM: Make a fake Western Union receipt and say you have paid where's my camper :)
Title: Re: Too good to be true??
Post by: koshari on October 08, 2011, 12:07:59 PM: my guess is its missing 1 at the front, $14800 sounds more like it

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Jayco-Swan-2007-New-Condition-/120789870547?pt=AU_Caravans_RVs&hash=item1c1fa327d3
Title: Re: Too good to be true??
Post by: mystq on October 08, 2011, 12:10:19 PM: E-mail sent ;D
Title: Re: Too good to be true??
Post by: POD on October 08, 2011, 12:14:17 PM: Scam for sure. Report it to gum tree. There was a similar one when I was looking on Trading Post a while ago.
Title: Re: Too good to be true??
Post by: crackacoldie on October 08, 2011, 12:18:40 PM: Definitely a scam, says it is in Adelaide, photo is not taken in SA, wrong type of power pole in the background, camper is not registered in SA. another fake add by a scum bag scammer.
Title: Re: Too good to be true??
Post by: GU Rich on October 08, 2011, 12:27:27 PM: Quote from: crackacoldie on October 08, 2011, 12:18:40 PM
Definitely a scam, says it is in Adelaide, photo is not taken in SA, wrong type of power pole in the background, camper is not registered in SA. another fake add by a scum bag scammer.

Only concrete poles in SA. Thats right isn't it.

EDIT; I think it is steel poles..

Rich
Title: Re: Too good to be true??
Post by: Stozz on October 08, 2011, 12:39:51 PM: When we were trying to sell our Jayco Eagle recently we had LOTS of scam emails asking for lots of details including the VIN/chassis numbers, rego numbers, our address, making offers etc - and they were people who would refuse to contact us via phone. In return we refused to reply to people via email or SMS.

If someone is genuinely interested, they will call and speak with you. We then asked people to verify who they were. If they are not prepared to provide details then they are not genuine buyers, or sellers.

Be very careful everyone!
Title: Re: Too good to be true??
Post by: JB on October 08, 2011, 12:44:38 PM: Same camper in Melbourne.

http://melbourne.gumtree.com.au/c-Cars-Vehicles-Motorbikes-Parts-caravan-campervan-motor-home-2008-Jayco-Swan-Outback-model-immaculate-condition-W0QQAdIdZ320394007 (http://melbourne.gumtree.com.au/c-Cars-Vehicles-Motorbikes-Parts-caravan-campervan-motor-home-2008-Jayco-Swan-Outback-model-immaculate-condition-W0QQAdIdZ320394007)

Also did a search of his email address and he turned up on a site in Calgary selling a Dodge.

Cheers

JB
Title: Re: Too good to be true??
Post by: Janbo on October 08, 2011, 12:47:27 PM: reported to Gumtree!!!
Title: Re: Too good to be true??
Post by: GGV8Cruza on October 08, 2011, 08:32:11 PM: No longer there, scam for sure

GG
Title: Re: Too good to be true??
Post by: POD on October 08, 2011, 08:42:15 PM: You guys are all so negative. Maybe he just had a surplus of Jayco Swan's that he wanted to clear to a few lucky people!
Title: Re: Too good to be true??
Post by: mystq on October 09, 2011, 05:26:16 AM: Quote from: POD on October 08, 2011, 08:42:15 PM
You guys are all so negative. Maybe he just had a surplus of Jayco Swan's that he wanted to clear to a few lucky people!

HA lol ;D
Title: Re: Too good to be true??
Post by: Monty94 on October 09, 2011, 07:51:54 AM: Another on Gumtree. I feel iffy buying something off these sites that don't have any fees for listing. Good place to get rid of all your "hot" goods.

http://melbourne.gumtree.com.au/c-Cars-Vehicles-Motorbikes-Parts-caravan-campervan-motor-home-2008-Jayco-Swan-Outback-model-immaculate-condition-W0QQAdIdZ320564316
Title: Re: Too good to be true??
Post by: D4D on October 09, 2011, 07:53:53 AM: That's the same ad as the one that was removed
Title: Re: Too good to be true??
Post by: crackacoldie on October 09, 2011, 08:10:58 AM: Of course it may not be a scam, he may just have listed it in every state to improve his chances of ripping someone off, oops I mean selling it ;D
Title: Re: Too good to be true??
Post by: Monty94 on October 09, 2011, 08:16:22 AM: I didn't see the add from yesterday, it was removed by the time I saw this thread. I have reported it, but it must be worthwhile for them to keep posting them up.
Title: Re: Too good to be true??
Post by: medion on October 09, 2011, 11:55:03 AM: Now it is in NSW.....

http://nsw.gumtree.com.au/c-Cars-Vehicles-Motorbikes-Parts-caravan-campervan-motor-home-2008-Jayco-Swan-Outback-model-immaculate-condition-W0QQAdIdZ320583168 (http://nsw.gumtree.com.au/c-Cars-Vehicles-Motorbikes-Parts-caravan-campervan-motor-home-2008-Jayco-Swan-Outback-model-immaculate-condition-W0QQAdIdZ320583168)
Title: Re: Too good to be true??
Post by: mystq on October 09, 2011, 11:57:35 AM: I got a e-mail back, here is what it says
Quote
Hello I'm Carl and first of all i want to thank you for your recent interest in my 2008 jayco outback trailer. I am the first owner from 2008, comes with all the bells and whistles, you will receive it with all papers and manuals.
The camper is in showroom condition, Non smoking, pet and little children free; NEVER taken off road or cooked in, 3 way fridge, 4 burner gas cook top, griller, electric brakes, is in immaculate condition, traveled less than 3000 kms max used 16 nights in total.
Complete with a host of features and extras, 7 sleeping, registered till 11/2011 and comes with a clear ownership title.
My final price is $4,800 because I want to avoid wasting time with negotiations and find a buyer before my upcoming deployment take place.

so If you are still interested please email me back so I can explain you how the transaction will work.
Here are some pictures: http://imgur.com/a/R4Tq0
Thanks

How do I do the western union thing again,,,,,,, ;D
Title: Re: Too good to be true??
Post by: cancan on October 09, 2011, 12:06:25 PM: Quote from: mystq on October 09, 2011, 11:57:35 AM
I got a e-mail back, here is what it says

How do I do the western union thing again,,,,,,, ;D

Those Western Union transactions can be very difficult to do, best you give me the money and I can ~~spend~~ forward it for you
Title: Re: Too good to be true??
Post by: mystq on October 09, 2011, 01:10:52 PM: Got another e-mail
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Hello again Richard,
The camper is currently located at approximately five km of Geraldton, WA stored in freight carrier and the pick it up option is not available, but it could also be transported free of charge by Live Shipping Auto Shippers, because they works with Army, we have free shipping all over the Australia (Estimated Shipping Time: 3-5 business days).
Due to the urgent nature of sale I'd like to conclude this transaction using the security provided by Live Shipping's Buyer Protection Program, they basically act as an independent third party between buyer and seller.
According to Live Shipping Buyer Protection Program you have 5 days from the time you receive the trailer to inspect it and decide if you want to keep it or not.
If, for some reason, you disagree with the camper (I assure you that is NOT going to happen since the camper looks like I described in the listing and photos are real and recently taken) it will be shipped back to me on my expense and Shipping company will full refund your money back.

If you're really interested to move forward just e-mail me back with your: full name, delivery address, cell phone# and my Shipping agent will contact you to explain the purchasing procedure.

Respectfully
Carl
Title: Re: Too good to be true??
Post by: POD on October 09, 2011, 01:22:49 PM: Wow mystq, looks like you'll be getting a REAL bargain with no strings attached if you don't like it. You've done real well there Tiger!
Title: Re: Too good to be true??
Post by: crackacoldie on October 09, 2011, 01:50:19 PM: Nothing like the perfect english this clown doesn't speak either!!!
Title: Re: Too good to be true??
Post by: Big Nath on October 09, 2011, 01:53:53 PM: i have just bought the NSW one too.....

Wow, what a great deal :cup:

Cheers
Title: Re: Too good to be true??
Post by: mystq on October 09, 2011, 01:56:03 PM: Quote from: campingwithkids on October 09, 2011, 01:53:53 PM
i have just bought the NSW one too.....

Wow, what a great deal :cup:

Cheers

HA lol ;D ;D
Title: Re: Too good to be true??
Post by: WaituiRob on October 09, 2011, 06:02:54 PM: I want one but I am still looking for Live Shipping Auto shippers LOL
Frank
Title: Re: Too good to be true??
Post by: Alesco on October 10, 2011, 07:25:57 AM: Somebody should say they're from geralton WA and see if the storage address changes to the East Coast.....
Title: Re: Too good to be true??
Post by: Big Nath on October 10, 2011, 07:29:23 AM: Quote from: Alesco on October 10, 2011, 07:25:57 AM
Somebody should say they're from geralton WA and see if the storage address changes to the East Coast.....

I did ;D just now

will see how we go!

Cheers!
Title: Re: Too good to be true??
Post by: koshari on October 10, 2011, 11:14:40 AM: makes you wonder just how many other "products" this carl fella has for sale?

Vehicle Enquiry Results

Registration Number:    V09441             Request Id:    111282392
Registration State:    NSW           Date:    10.10.2011
VIN/Chassis:    6AM00000081K13821           Time:    12:20
Engine Number:
There are no encumbrances that match the quoted identifiers.
VEHICLE DETAILS MATCHED WITH RTA
Title: Re: Too good to be true??
Post by: Stozz on October 10, 2011, 11:37:34 AM: I wonder if the real owner of this camper is aware that someone is trying to sell it?
Title: Re: Too good to be true??
Post by: xmasbaby67 on October 10, 2011, 01:47:33 PM: Watching with interest to see what happens next???????
Title: Googled the VIN
Post by: austastar on October 10, 2011, 03:04:40 PM: He's been every where

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2008 Jayco Swan Outback model immaculate condition | Caravans ...
melbourne.gumtree.com.au/c-Cars-Vehicles-Motorbikes-Parts-carava...
1 day ago – Serial Number: 6AM00000081K13821 Fridge Dometic 90ltr 3 way *** PLEASE READ *** DON'T USE Email Poster!!! email's through gumtree ...
November 2008 Jayco Swan Outback model | Caravans & Motor ...
brisbane.gumtree.com.au/c-Cars-Vehicles-Motorbikes-Parts-caravan-...
10 Jul 2011 – Serial Number 6AM00000081K13821 Fridge Dometic 90ltr 3 way *** PLEASE READ *** DON'T USE Email Poster!!! email's through gumtree ...
2008 Jayco Swan Outback model immaculate condition | Caravans ...
sydney.gumtree.com.au/c-Cars-Vehicles-Motorbikes-Parts-caravan-...
1 day ago – Serial Number: 6AM00000081K13821 Fridge Dometic 90ltr 3 way *** PLEASE READ *** DON'T USE Email Poster!!! email's through gumtree ...
November 2008 Jayco Swan Outback model | Caravans & Motor ...
adelaide.gumtree.com.au/c-Cars-Vehicles-Motorbikes-Parts-caravan-...
10 Jul 2011 – Serial Number 6AM00000081K13821 Fridge Dometic 90ltr 3 way *** PLEASE READ *** DON'T USE Email Poster!!! email's through gumtree ...
November 2008 Jayco Swan Outback model | Caravans & Motor ...
sydney.gumtree.com.au/c-Cars-Vehicles-Motorbikes-Parts-caravan-...
10 Jul 2011 – Serial Number 6AM00000081K13821 Fridge Dometic 90ltr 3 way *** PLEASE READ *** DON'T USE Email Poster!!! email's through gumtree ...
November 2008 Jayco Swan Outback model | Caravans & Motor ...
canberra.gumtree.com.au/c-Cars-Vehicles-Motorbikes-Parts-caravan-...
10 Jul 2011 – Serial Number 6AM00000081K13821 Fridge Dometic 90ltr 3 way *** PLEASE READ *** DON'T USE Email Poster!!! email's through gumtree ...
2008 Jayco Swan Outback model immaculate condition | Caravans ...
adelaide.gumtree.com.au/c-Cars-Vehicles-Motorbikes-Parts-caravan-...
1 day ago – Serial Number: 6AM00000081K13821 Fridge Dometic 90ltr 3 way *** PLEASE READ *** DON'T USE Email Poster!!! email's through gumtree ...
November 2008 Jayco Swan Outback model | Caravans & Motor ...
darwin.gumtree.com.au/c-Cars-Vehicles-Motorbikes-Parts-caravan-...
10 Jul 2011 – Serial Number 6AM00000081K13821 Fridge Dometic 90ltr 3 way *** PLEASE READ *** DON'T USE Email Poster!!! email's through gumtree ...
2008 Jayco Swan Outback model immaculate condition | Caravans ...
canberra.gumtree.com.au/c-Cars-Vehicles-Motorbikes-Parts-caravan-...
1 day ago – Serial Number: 6AM00000081K13821 Fridge Dometic 90ltr 3 way *** PLEASE READ *** DON'T USE Email Poster!!! email's through gumtree ...
November 2008 Jayco Swan Outback model | Caravans & Motor ...
melbourne.gumtree.com.au/c-Cars-Vehicles-Motorbikes-Parts-carava...
10 Jul 2011 – Serial Number 6AM00000081K13821 Fridge Dometic 90ltr 3 way *** PLEASE READ *** DON'T USE Email Poster!!! email's through gumtree ...
2008 Jayco Swan Outback model immaculate condition | Caravans ...
perth.gumtree.com.au/c-Cars-Vehicles-Motorbikes-Parts-caravan-ca...
1 day ago – Serial Number: 6AM00000081K13821 Fridge Dometic 90ltr 3 way *** PLEASE READ *** DON'T USE Email Poster!!! email's through gumtree ...
November 2008 Jayco Swan Outback model | Caravans & Motor ...
perth.gumtree.com.au/c-Cars-Vehicles-Motorbikes-Parts-caravan-ca...
10 Jul 2011 – Serial Number 6AM00000081K13821 Fridge Dometic 90ltr 3 way *** PLEASE READ *** DON'T USE Email Poster!!! email's through gumtree ...
November 2008 Jayco Swan Outback immaculate condition | Caravans ...
perth.gumtree.com.au/c-Cars-Vehicles-Motorbikes-Parts-caravan-ca...
11 Sep 2011 – Serial Number 6AM00000081K13821 Fridge Dometic 90ltr 3 way *** PLEASE READ *** DON'T USE Email Poster!!! email's through gumtree go to my ...
2008 Jayco Swan Outback model immaculate condition | Caravans ...
hobart.gumtree.com.au/c-Cars-Vehicles-Motorbikes-Parts-caravan-...
1 day ago – Serial Number: 6AM00000081K13821 Fridge Dometic 90ltr 3 way *** PLEASE READ *** DON'T USE Email Poster!!! email's through gumtree ...
November 2008 Jayco Swan Outback model | Caravans & Motor ...
sydney.gumtree.com.au/c-Cars-Vehicles-Motorbikes-Parts-caravan-...
10 Jul 2011 – Brakes Electric Registration V-09441. Rego Expiry 11/2011. Sleeping Capacity 7. Serial Number 6AM00000081K13821 Fridge Dometic 90ltr 3 ...
2008 Jayco Swan Outback model immaculate condition | Caravans ...
sydney.gumtree.com.au/c-Cars-Vehicles-Motorbikes-Parts-caravan-...
21 hours ago – Serial Number: 6AM00000081K13821 Fridge Dometic 90ltr 3 way *** PLEASE READ *** DON'T USE Email Poster!!! email's through gumtree ...
8<-------------------------------------------

cheers
Title: Re: Too good to be true??
Post by: Stozz on October 10, 2011, 03:10:27 PM: should this be reported to the police or something? surely they have a 'cyber' section.

or perhaps the Caravan Industry Association?

Thoughts?
Title: Re: Too good to be true??
Post by: Bird on October 10, 2011, 03:12:37 PM: only a fool would shop on bumtree... It has to be THE most exploited site on the earth or in cyberspace - more so than Ebay...

there must be 80% of scam's posted on forums come from there... I remember last model GU 4.2's for 9000 and people asking if it was a scam... latest model pajero's with 5000 klms on them for 20k..

why would you waste your time with that place?
Title: Re: Too good to be true??
Post by: Bird on October 10, 2011, 03:14:07 PM: Quote from: Stozz on October 10, 2011, 03:10:27 PM
should this be reported to the police or something? surely they have a 'cyber' section.
do it then and report to scams at gumtree. surtely they would have their own scam section

i dont know how they cannot be picking these things up

also go with current affair and today tonight
Title: Re: Too good to be true??
Post by: Stozz on October 10, 2011, 04:03:02 PM: Quote from: Lost on October 10, 2011, 03:14:07 PM
do it then and report to scams at gumtree. surtely they would have their own scam section

i dont know how they cannot be picking these things up

also go with current affair and today tonight

It has already been reported to Gumtree, I think

have also emailed ScamNet on their govt/police website...
Title: Re: Too good to be true??
Post by: mystq on October 10, 2011, 06:44:56 PM: Quote from: WaituiRob on October 09, 2011, 06:02:54 PM
I want one but I am still looking for Live Shipping Auto shippers LOL
Frank

I can't find them either ;D