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Title: Sprit of Tasmania with generator and chainsaw
Post by: teemac on September 18, 2011, 10:02:47 AM
Hi All,

We have booked a trip to Tassie towing our CT, was wondering if you need to empty fuel from generator and chainsaw prior to depature, I have read up on transporting fuel containers and gas bottles, cant find anything on the others
Cheers :cheers:
Title: Re: Sprit of Tasmania with generator and chainsaw
Post by: dazzler on September 18, 2011, 11:43:21 AM
Fuel containers must be empty.  I imagine that would include the 'containers' on the plant.
Title: Re: Sprit of Tasmania with generator and chainsaw
Post by: Moto Mech on September 18, 2011, 11:45:18 AM
I would say yes, empty them but in saying that, Ive always taken my genny chock a block full. Never even crossed my mind to empty it 8).
Title: Re: Sprit of Tasmania with generator and chainsaw
Post by: teemac on September 18, 2011, 11:55:39 AM
Thanks for the replies, I will take the advice of making sure that the tanks are empty, the web site says to fill fuel containers with water, but obviously you wouldn't do that to a motor
Cheers Boys :cheers:
Title: Re: Sprit of Tasmania with generator and chainsaw
Post by: Manjimike on September 18, 2011, 11:59:11 AM
What is the difference between those fuel tanks and a vehicle fuel tank?
Title: Re: Sprit of Tasmania with generator and chainsaw
Post by: Moto Mech on September 18, 2011, 12:00:39 PM
We always carry empty jerry cans on the vehicle and camper but have never been asked to fill them with water. Once a person we were travelling with had full jerry cans and was asked to get rid of the fuel(diesel) and then he had to fill them with water. I think as long as tanks are empty when you get there, you wont have to fill them with water.
Title: Re: Sprit of Tasmania with generator and chainsaw
Post by: teemac on September 18, 2011, 12:04:58 PM
Thanks for the advice, makes sense what is the diffeence between a car motor and any other ;D
Title: Re: Sprit of Tasmania with generator and chainsaw
Post by: krisandkev on September 18, 2011, 03:07:46 PM
Took our camper over in January this year and we did not empty our generator or chainsaw, same for the return trip.  Our chainsaw was in a tool box on top of our cruiser and the generator was in the camper. The check point people did not ask about them, only about other containers and gas bottles. We had a spare full gas bottle but because it was bolted to the camper (via a bracket) it was OK.  ;D  Kevin 
Title: Re: Sprit of Tasmania with generator and chainsaw
Post by: dazzler on September 18, 2011, 03:24:17 PM

Keep in mind a lot depends on how busy they are and which port you are at.  Tassie port security seems to be far more relaxed whereas melbourne seems to be more contract staff who can be over the top a little.

Title: Re: Sprit of Tasmania with generator and chainsaw
Post by: cheekygirl668 on September 18, 2011, 03:46:39 PM
Hubby just said make sure there is no fruit there..... when we went last year they were paranoid about fruit
Title: Re: Sprit of Tasmania with generator and chainsaw
Post by: danielhobby on September 18, 2011, 04:45:53 PM
when i went over last i had spare diesel and thinners in 20 litre round drums.i was told that the only fuel to be carried was to be in original factory fitted fuel tanks on vehicle,no long range or jerries etc,they didnt look so hard to find them though.
Title: Re: Sprit of Tasmania with generator and chainsaw
Post by: dazzler on September 18, 2011, 05:38:02 PM
Hubby just said make sure there is no fruit there..... when we went last year they were paranoid about fruit

Specially apples.  Kiwi apples  >:(
Title: Re: Sprit of Tasmania with generator and chainsaw
Post by: teemac on September 18, 2011, 06:51:07 PM
Thanks for the response, I will just empty my tanks on the genie and chainsaw prior to checking in
Cheers >:D
Title: Re: Sprit of Tasmania with generator and chainsaw
Post by: 2003gxl on September 19, 2011, 08:40:39 AM
When we went over 4yrs ago,when we go of the boat at Tassie there was four 4wd's in or group, 2 landcruiser's and 2 nisssan's, both the nissan's had to gernie the wheel arches etc due top mud and grass seeds etc yet both landcruisers got through ok, mine was one of these and the undercarriage and wheel arches were full of the same mud etc.
Title: Re: Sprit of Tasmania with generator and chainsaw
Post by: Barry G on September 19, 2011, 01:03:16 PM
No obvious logic whatsoever in empty fuel containers.  'Empty' container - i.e. full of fuel vapour - is far more likely to explode in a 'worst case' than is a full one.  (Although probably not as bad for deisel.)  Hence far safer to have tanks and containers full.
Title: Re: Sprit of Tasmania with generator and chainsaw
Post by: Bird on September 19, 2011, 01:36:15 PM
not having read the whole thread, but what does the spirit of tassie company say?
Title: Re: Sprit of Tasmania with generator and chainsaw
Post by: Barry G on September 19, 2011, 02:06:53 PM
not having read the whole thread, but what does the spirit of tassie company say?
I guess that this is what you are reqired to comply with, however I can see no logic in it.
Title: Re: Sprit of Tasmania with generator and chainsaw
Post by: Bird on September 19, 2011, 02:11:08 PM
Quote from: barry1956
I guess that this is what you are reqired to comply with, however I can see no logic in it.

yea, its nothing more than one of them play the game things..
Apparently if you get the size of your car/trailer combo wrong when booking(>10m and pay for <10m), they just boot you off, you dont get the chance to pay the difference...
Title: Re: Sprit of Tasmania with generator and chainsaw
Post by: Wandering Tassie on September 19, 2011, 02:41:54 PM
I guess that this is what you are reqired to comply with, however I can see no logic in it.



What has logic got to do with a Government owned company.

Trevor
Title: Re: Sprit of Tasmania with generator and chainsaw
Post by: Barry G on September 19, 2011, 03:01:58 PM


What has logic got to do with a Government owned company.

Trevor

I suspect it is more to do with insurance requirements. 
Title: Re: Sprit of Tasmania with generator and chainsaw
Post by: teemac on September 19, 2011, 07:30:15 PM
Hi Lost,

The web site just talks about fuel containers, need to have these empty and full of water, gas bottles need to be disconnected from any appliance and need to be attached via a bracket, if they are not attached, you need to put them in a trailer they have, get a docket for it and present to them when you disembark (thought I would throw in a nautical term)

No mention of chainsaws or generators, I thought I would ask the question here, always get a bit of lively discussion ;D
Title: Re: Sprit of Tasmania with generator and chainsaw
Post by: speewa158 on September 19, 2011, 08:27:41 PM
The Tas freight can be best sumed up with $ . The trip over in either direction can really be nasty if the load moves . I have seen taughtliners looking like pregnent  hippos  after a ruff crossing . Fire sparked by the load moving causing sparks to ruptered fuel tanks /drums . Bass Straight can really be tricky . But there is some inconsinstys in what goes where & when . It depends on whos on the gate mostly , but this can change , its not locked in ,,,,,, If you have a contract to move trailers at a set rate per crossing per week this may change  ;D
Title: Re: Sprit of Tasmania with generator and chainsaw
Post by: danielhobby on September 19, 2011, 09:42:38 PM
think its to do with a more severe scenerio if something goes up in flames
Title: Re: Sprit of Tasmania with generator and chainsaw
Post by: Barry G on September 19, 2011, 09:47:28 PM
think its to do with a more severe scenerio if something goes up in flames


I agree,and certainly wouldn't want fuel vapour filled tanks, but FULL tanks shouldn't be a problem unless the hold is really burning - in which [worst] case it is likely that the inevitable and un-controlled application of large applications of seawater will 'solve' the problem / make solving it irrelevant.
Title: Re: Sprit of Tasmania with generator and chainsaw
Post by: noel_w on September 20, 2011, 01:21:53 PM
Quote
I agree,and certainly wouldn't want fuel vapour filled tanks, but FULL tanks shouldn't be a problem unless the hold is really burning - in which [worst] case it is likely that the inevitable and un-controlled application of large applications of seawater will 'solve' the problem / make solving it irrelevant.
That would require some LARGE recovery gear. That 1200lb winch would struggle even with diff locks engaged.
Title: Re: Sprit of Tasmania with generator and chainsaw
Post by: fishfinder on September 20, 2011, 06:54:26 PM
I came across with 2 jerry cans one i emptied the fuel in the car washed out and filled with water that was attached to the camper the other fuel container was brand new never been used that was inside the camper and on inspection they spotted it shook it opened it and sniffed it after i explained it has never had a drop of fuel in it that was next to the gennie that they did not even question . 
Title: Re: Sprit of Tasmania with generator and chainsaw
Post by: madman1 on September 20, 2011, 07:06:56 PM
When I came over with the generator not a question was asked. 
They didn't even ask about flares in the boat. 
Depends how busy / fussy your inspector is I guess.

Cheers

Mark