Can't quite agree with indiscriminate shooting mateNo, I'd ask them to aim first...
great photo...
(http://images.smh.com.au/2011/08/09/2545873/jump729-420x0.jpg)
http://www.smh.com.au/world/leap-of-life-woman-pictured-jumping-from-burning-building-20110809-1ikcj.html
I consider it an act of terrorism and should be treated as such. Its that simple. Terrorism laws should be in effect with such un social behavior. Now before all our cilil libitarians jump up and down, yes you have the right to protest though should be peaceful and non destructive......x eleventyteen.
Water cannon, serves 2 purposes, puts out the fires and clears out the rioters :)
Go hard and send a message it won't be tollerated.......
Why dont the pom's bring in the army? The cops are not able to do Shit out numbered 50:1. Bring in army, and just start shooting, 20mins later calm will be back to normal. The rioters are criminals with no care for people or their property, would anybody miss them if we removed them from the gene pool? Looks to me like they serve no useful purpose or they would be at work.
http://www.smh.com.au/world/london-riots-spread-as-police-lose-control-20110809-1ijmm.html < - Police lose control? did they ever have it?
the cops are always going to be massivly outnumbered in these situations so they need to make use of a few crowd dispersing tools - BRING OUT THE TEAR GAS ;D I say
the cops are always going to be massivly outnumbered in these situations so they need to make use of a few crowd dispersing tools - BRING OUT THE TEAR GAS ;D I say
I can confirm, tear gas is really uncool and will stop you in your tracks real quick. Oh, yes, I have had the displeasure of experiencing it....
as far as im concerned anybody rioting and looting is scum. an oxygen thief.I dont know too much about it, but from what little Ive read it was taking the hard line thats started it all. The police shot and killed some mug and now we have riots ???
i say shoot first ask questions later. no need to shoot to kill so to speak but if you dont take the hard line straight up they just keep running all over you.
im just trying to work out why they are rioting anyway? got me beat
I dont know too much about it, but from what little Ive read it was taking the hard line thats started it all. The police shot and killed some mug and now we have riots ???some bloke apparently shot at the cops, they shot back = he was bad shot, they were good shots. I see that as fair.
some bloke apparently shot at the cops, they shot back = he was bad shot, they were good shots. I see that as fair.Heard on the news that it is possible he had a fake gun, and that the bullet lodged in the coppers radio was from a police gun. That said, he was doing the wrong thing and had a gun (whether or not it was real or not).
Just heard on the news that the police are seeking extraordinary powers including the use of tear gas. Seems it's not in their list of standard items - at least our police have that up their sleeves!but think on the bright side, our cops* would just open fire
There will be Bankstown riots before you know it...
There will be Bankstown riots before you know it...Yeah but how will you tell its started?? ;D ;D
Do you know these looting suspects? Police release just TWELVE pictures (but we've found 40 more to be going on with)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2024120/London-riots-2011-suspects-Photos-released-know-looters.html
images of the looting and the looters. Hope at least some of them are caught.
YES!! I KNOW THAT BLOKE WITH THE RUBBER GLOVES ON!!!!
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/08/09/article-2024120-0D5D3F6D00000578-713_634x468.jpg)
YES!! I KNOW THAT BLOKE WITH THE RUBBER GLOVES ON!!!!
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/08/09/article-2024120-0D5D3F6D00000578-713_634x468.jpg)
Just look at the pics here. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/index.htmlI still say shoot em.
Lets look at it - Mark Duggan (a part time gangsta and dj on the Dole) is swooped on by the cops working against gun crime. He pulls a blank firing gun that was modified to fire real bullets on the cops. Cops open fire and one round kills him, another round misses and ricohets into an officers radio.
Duggan's family hold a march with local community leaders protesting against the police lack of information on the incident. March completes and splits up.
Anarchist movement moves in and starts riot. Riot becomes uncontrollable, police withdraw. Nothing done.
Copy cat looting and rioting starts in London, Manchester, Birmingham.
There are scum and there are scum. These scum are burning their own supermarkets, electronics shops, busting into hotels and restaurants demanding money from clientelle, busting into sports shops to steal clothes and sports shoes, mobile phones, Booze and TV's.
I heard some idiots on the news interviewed in the riots saying they were fed up with being neglected by the govt and persecuted by the police and it was time for payback.
IF you ask me we should give them some experience of what hardship is:
1. Take away their unemployment benefit - if they can riot, they can work.
2. Conscript them into the army and send them to Afghanistan or some other crap-hole. Let them be shot at, live in a dusty tent in 40 deg C heat, eat tinned food and piss in a bucket.
3. Don't put them in prison, put them on the streets in chain-gangs cleaning up the mess they made, and them move them on to rebuilding roads.
4. Finally, they don't need sky, booze, mobile phones, blackberrys, the internet because those things don't get them jobs. Send them back to school and tell them they have to pass their exams to get some benefits.
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I cannot believe what I saw on tele, but some UK judge saying that the crimes they are commiting are not 'serious' or worth jail time.
the reporter said somethign like 'so ripping someone out of their car burning it out, assulting the person, burning down buildings, cars and houses and robbing stores is not worth jail"
The judge replied something like " not in my eyes"
WTF?
I'll weigh into this topic, sorry to say but great britain Aint that great anymore. I lived there from 97 tO 2004 and have to say it isn't a surprise. We lived in east London where lots of this is happening and even back then I had been mugged for my takeaway, seen shops looted, seen loads of racial interfighting and the joint just seemed in trouble. I have mates that are fully qualified civil engineers with great experience that are working in retail for 6 quid an hour compared to 20+an hour 10 years ago. Their economy is screwed, they let far too many eastern European and asain economic/ asylum seekers in and it is now bearing roten fruit! Glad I sold my place in London and got out when I did. All I can say is lucky oz has loads of iron ore to keep us afloat!
So whats the difference between them and us ........ a couple of years ?I personally think we are pretty safe but need to stop the boat loads. I was working on the channel tunnel and regularly rang police to report trucks stopping at the motorway service station, drivers walking away and a minute later the doors fly open and a semi load of people spewed out and disappeared into the woods nearby! This actually happened day after day on the m20 in Kent near Maidstone. I think we are safer than the uk due to uur resources but my kidS won't have it so easy.!
I personally think we are pretty safe but need to stop the boat loads.Fewer than 5% of asylum seekers arrive by boat ??? and whilst I do not condone this method of asylum seeking, some of them are escaping horrific situations in their home country and I would not want my family living in those conditions either.
Its more about immigrants being prepared to live by Australian law and speaking our common language, just as we would have to if we went to live in another country. If they are not prepared to do so and or breach our laws they should be put on a plane and sent back to where they came from, no questions.We have a winner. Couldnt agree more.
Its more about immigrants being prepared to live by Australian law and speaking our common language, just as we would have to if we went to live in another country. If they are not prepared to do so and or breach our laws they should be put on a plane and sent back to where they came from, no questions.
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London riots claim another life August 12, 2011 - 10:17AM
A 68-year-old man set upon as he tried to stamp out a fire during the London riots has died, Scotland Yard says.
Richard Mannington Bowes, 68, was bashed, suffering head injuries, on a road in Ealing west London on Monday night.
Scotland Yard says he was attacked about 10.45pm after remonstrating with teenagers who were setting fire to two industrial bins outside a shopping centre.Officers who went to his aid were pelted with missiles.
Bowes, of Ealing, was placed on a life-support machine following the attack, which took place as violence spread through the capital.
He died just before midnight (UK time) on Thursday, Scotland Yard said.
Detective Chief Inspector John McFarlane, of the Met's Homicide and Serious Crime Command, said: ''This was a brutal incident that resulted in the senseless killing of an innocent man.
Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/world/london-riots-claim-another-life-20110812-1ipnp.html#ixzz1Uln5WH9x