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Re: How to cope with the corona virus ..facts- not fiction.
« Reply #1600 on: November 23, 2020, 10:01:40 AM »
I was talking with a guy on the weekend whos work involves dealing with Scientists and Geneticists. Very interesting discussion as he said places like the CSRIRO now have the tightest online security in Australia because they are aware certain overseas governments are trying to hack in to see their studies and findings.   

All Western counties are going down the genome track which is basically a very in depth look at how COVID is genetically made up. But while it’s very early, Governments are interested to find out why COVID has had a relatively small impact on Asian genetic set up, but a huge impact on European/American genetic set up.
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« Reply #1601 on: November 23, 2020, 12:26:59 PM »
Quote from: Beachman on November 23, 2020, 10:01:40 AM
I was talking with a guy on the weekend whos work involves dealing with Scientists and Geneticists. Very interesting discussion as he said places like the CSRIRO now have the tightest online security in Australia because they are aware certain overseas governments are trying to hack in to see their studies and findings.   

All Western counties are going down the genome track which is basically a very in depth look at how COVID is genetically made up. But while it’s very early, Governments are interested to find out why COVID has had a relatively small impact on Asian genetic set up, but a huge impact on European/American genetic set up.

The Neanderthal link....

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-02957-3

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2020/sep/30/neanderthal-genes-increase-risk-of-serious-covid-19-study-claims

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« Reply #1602 on: November 23, 2020, 07:01:36 PM »
Quote from: Beachman on November 23, 2020, 10:01:40 AM
Governments are interested to find out why COVID has had a relatively small impact on Asian genetic set up, but a huge impact on European/American genetic set up.

I suppose it depends on where in Asia. The UK experience is that those communities with predominantly Indian and Pakistani origins are heavily impacted. More likely to contract and more likely to die from covid than indigenous white people. In fact, if you are an overweight male, bald, diabetic Asian pensioner with one leg, you are stuffed.

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« Reply #1603 on: December 19, 2020, 09:23:11 PM »
and we are back to Border Closures   
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« Reply #1604 on: December 20, 2020, 06:27:18 AM »
and the Sydney to Hobert has now been cancelled
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« Reply #1605 on: December 20, 2020, 07:32:28 AM »
Quote from: alnjan on December 19, 2020, 09:23:11 PM
and we are back to Border Closures   
News reported yesterday evening that Covid 19 was found I  sewerage in Cairns, Townsville & The Gold Coast.
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« Reply #1606 on: December 20, 2020, 01:10:21 PM »
I just wish there was a national response, instead of each state making it up.  And if borders are closing make it happen immediately, not give everyone a day or two notice to sneak across. 
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« Reply #1607 on: December 20, 2020, 02:14:31 PM »
Quote from: #jonesy on December 20, 2020, 01:10:21 PM
I just wish there was a national response, instead of each state making it up.  And if borders are closing make it happen immediately, not give everyone a day or two notice to sneak across.


Yeah advertising it for even one day would defeat the point.   Just fail to understand it. 
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« Reply #1608 on: December 20, 2020, 03:05:24 PM »
Quote from: #jonesy on December 20, 2020, 01:10:21 PM
I just wish there was a national response, instead of each state making it up.  And if borders are closing make it happen immediately, not give everyone a day or two notice to sneak across.
agree on all points..

also stop changing them daily, its ****in hard enough to follow - dont make it more difficult.
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« Reply #1609 on: December 20, 2020, 04:37:15 PM »
I was supposed to be at Sanctuary Cove on the 28th....gone out the window now.

I'm pi**ed to be included in the greater Sydney area.....bloody hell, we're 100K's away.

Ironic, the people we were going up to Qld with are from Victoria....and we were worried 1 mth ago if they would be allowed ??
Now they're going and we will be stuck at home....
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« Reply #1610 on: December 20, 2020, 04:45:00 PM »
Quote from: gronk on December 20, 2020, 04:37:15 PM
I was supposed to be at Sanctuary Cove on the 28th....gone out the window now.

I'm pi**ed to be included in the greater Sydney area.....bloody hell, we're 100K's away.

Ironic, the people we were going up to Qld with are from Victoria....and we were worried 1 mth ago if they would be allowed ??
Now they're going and we will be stuck at home....

The Central Coast was included due to the ferry link between Pittwater and Wagstaff with a positive case riding that ferry to their home on the coast along with the other passengers.
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« Reply #1611 on: December 20, 2020, 05:32:43 PM »
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The Central Coast was included due to the ferry link between Pittwater and Wagstaff with a positive case riding that ferry to their home on the coast along with the other passengers.

Yes, but we are part of the greater Sydney area anyway.  Never used to be...it was always the Hawkesbury river as the cutoff point.
That case at Wagstaffe went home and self isolated...not believed to have infected anyone else.

I'm closer to Newcastle than Wagstaffe, but thems the breaks !!
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« Reply #1612 on: December 20, 2020, 06:05:54 PM »
Quote from: gronk on December 20, 2020, 05:32:43 PM
Yes, but we are part of the greater Sydney area anyway.  Never used to be...it was always the Hawkesbury river as the cutoff point.
That case at Wagstaffe went home and self isolated...not believed to have infected anyone else.

I'm closer to Newcastle than Wagstaffe, but thems the breaks !!

I get what your saying. The good thing about the virus being on the Nothern Beaches and in particular around Avalon is that people from the northern beaches don’t travel and certainly don’t go further west than the Pacific Hwy at Pymble. As my old nan use to say ( lived at Nth Narrabeen) if it isn’t in the Manly Daily then it never happened. The manly daily was exclusively reserved for local news. I called it the Insular Pennisula
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« Reply #1613 on: December 21, 2020, 08:47:00 AM »
Quote from: Bird on December 20, 2020, 03:05:24 PM
agree on all points..

also stop changing them daily, its ****in hard enough to follow - dont make it more difficult.

Sorry Bird... our trip to Vic this XMAS has been "postponed"...

the covefe, hugs and cuddles will have to be postponed...

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« Reply #1614 on: December 21, 2020, 03:48:48 PM »
New version of the virus in the UK that is said to be 70% more contagious has made its way into Australia  in NSW. But Glady has said she has it all under control. That should make me sleep better tonight.
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« Reply #1615 on: December 21, 2020, 03:57:39 PM »
Three months ago that new strain was mentioned and it was more contagious.
Why do the people who can implement responses not act?.
Don't get me started on the Airline Cabin crew who were allowed to walk freely.
What a Shit fight.
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« Reply #1616 on: December 21, 2020, 05:52:41 PM »
Quote from: Hairs on December 21, 2020, 03:57:39 PM
Three months ago that new strain was mentioned and it was more contagious.
Why do the people who can implement responses not act?.
Don't get me started on the Airline Cabin crew who were allowed to walk freely.
What a Shit fight.
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They've had 7 mths to get procedures right...they can't keep saying these things slipped through the net !!
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« Reply #1617 on: December 21, 2020, 05:55:33 PM »
Quote from: gronk on December 21, 2020, 05:52:41 PM
They've had 7 mths to get procedures right...they can't keep saying these things slipped through the net !!
You are sadly right mate.
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« Reply #1618 on: December 21, 2020, 08:46:27 PM »
Quote from: gronk on December 21, 2020, 05:52:41 PM
They've had 7 mths to get procedures right...they can't keep saying these things slipped through the net !!
There's gaps everywhere. I work on the wharfs and I see it. There are plenty of ships coming here inside the 14 day period. Crew arent supposed to be off their ships unless it's for specific work duties wearing masks. They have been caught off their ships just taking a stroll, not wearing masks when onshore etc. Private(external) company workers not wearing masks supplying food etc to ships and interacting with crews. External Aussie workers cleaning hatches not wearing masks while on board.
When Port workers report the breaches the answer received is Border Force have put strict rules in place only for foreigners(and these arent enforced because they would have to be at each ship 24/7). Each Aussie company is responsible for the own employees safe Covid work practices.
This is only in the Port I'm at, so there will be gaps in every international visit, air or sea. The only way it can be controlled is by having police/border force/army guarding and enforcing strict rules, which is impossible when you look at the volume of trade. Shutting down trade is impossible. Humans are by nature selfish beings. Hurry up vaccinations, thats the only fix.

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« Reply #1619 on: December 22, 2020, 04:05:21 AM »
Quote from: glenm64 on December 21, 2020, 08:46:27 PM
There's gaps everywhere. I work on the wharfs and I see it. There are plenty of ships coming here inside the 14 day period. Crew arent supposed to be off their ships unless it's for specific work duties wearing masks. They have been caught off their ships just taking a stroll, not wearing masks when onshore etc. Private(external) company workers not wearing masks supplying food etc to ships and interacting with crews. External Aussie workers cleaning hatches not wearing masks while on board.
When Port workers report the breaches the answer received is Border Force have put strict rules in place only for foreigners(and these arent enforced because they would have to be at each ship 24/7). Each Aussie company is responsible for the own employees safe Covid work practices.
This is only in the Port I'm at, so there will be gaps in every international visit, air or sea. The only way it can be controlled is by having police/border force/army guarding and enforcing strict rules, which is impossible when you look at the volume of trade. Shutting down trade is impossible. Humans are by nature selfish beings. Hurry up vaccinations, thats the only fix.

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« Reply #1620 on: December 22, 2020, 04:41:54 PM »
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« Reply #1621 on: December 22, 2020, 05:34:23 PM »
We have 4 cases of the more infectious covid strain in Australia now, all in quarantine. Better hope it stays there.
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« Reply #1622 on: December 22, 2020, 05:57:31 PM »
Quote from: corndog on December 22, 2020, 05:34:23 PM
We have 4 cases of the more infectious covid strain in Australia now, all in quarantine. Better hope it stays there.
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« Reply #1623 on: December 22, 2020, 06:49:48 PM »
We have the infectious strain everywhere... apparently. You'd think it would be Armageddon but it isn't.

I've had covid but I don't know anybody else who has. It's all a bit surreal.
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« Reply #1624 on: December 23, 2020, 05:42:32 PM »
Covid cases recorded in Antarctica for first time – reports

Isolated continent reportedly registers first infections after 36 Chileans fall ill at research base.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/dec/22/covid-cases-recorded-in-antarctica-for-first-time

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