Police checking for Mods, Sth East QLD

[weeds]

It mentions a 3 day blitz on the Gold Coast, but my Nephew got pulled over in his 4WD at Burpengary (North Side of Brisbane and he passed)

Yes..because before the blitz they pulled random cars over for random inspections, normal everyday activity for police and department of transport.


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[doc evil]

There should never be any need to interpret a law.
It should be read and understood as written, meanings of words and original intent of the Law makers should never be considered.
The 'Articled Clerks' that framed these Laws, as a result of requests from Politicians, should be doing their job correctly.
If they want the Law to mean something other than the way it is written, why don't they amend it, instead of a bull...t interpretation.

You've hit the nail on head however, If the law is coming into effect from October (as stated in the police and gubbament media releases), why are vehicles being stickered and removed from the road in September?
The way the gubbament document reads, is they a proposing changes to item LS9 and LS10. As far as I'm aware, these changes have NOT been implemented and very much doubt it will be done in 2 weeks.
It is appearing as a very quick and uncoordinated cash grab!!

[#jonesy]

What are they misinterpreting?
"You're allowed a 50mm lift,  bad luck sunshine it is only 40!"

They should get a warning? Why would they came the mods back?   A defect makes them do it.

Cash grab.  Did they all get a fine?  Or just the over the top ones? 
It is the most ineffective "cash grab"  it is too labour and overhead intensive.

[Bigfish]

Here is a real life experience from one the forum members on a Pajero forum..

"Actually a cop on a bike pulled up next to me at some traffic lights and 'Ordered and Escorted' me down another road(1km away)where they were set-up. Didn't even see them..... There were 3 cop bikes and a few cars doing the same. Looking for Vehicles of interest I would say .. 4X4's and Modified cars were inspected... Yes one inspector was using a tape measure and a height checker for lowered cars.... Didn't see any Scales to weigh us tho...
Worst thing is that if you got pinged for anything I herd they were getting you under the anti hoon laws (Illegal Modifications).... And that means 2 strikes in 5 yrs and bye bye CAR OR 4X4... Totally unfair.... I was very nice to them and the cop said when I was leaving thank you for being very nice about it all.. Yer Right... Would have locked me up tho if he herd what I said upon leaving tho.. Lol.... Had an issue with the cop about my factory 40mm lift, till the Transport inspector said I was ok... Phew...

How Modified are you? sorry just looked, you should be ok....
Where are you going in QLD and when are you coming up? should be over in a week or so and they will move on to another area for awhile... Oh and they were Drug testing and RBT as well.... With 5 tow trucks waiting for a 'customer'...

[doc evil]

What are they misinterpreting?
"You're allowed a 50mm lift,  bad luck sunshine it is only 40!"

The way I read it,
One document says 50mm being QLD gubbamint and another states 75mm lift being VSB14........Which one is right?? Which document do we abide by??

They should get a warning? Why would they came the mods back?   A defect makes them do it.

ummm........if you complied with VSB14 and TMR is implementing a rule change, we should be advised of it AND allowed a time frame to rectify. Not send the vehicle home on a tilt tray or defect or impound.

Cash grab.  Did they all get a fine?  Or just the over the top ones? 
It is the most ineffective "cash grab"  it is too labour and overhead intensive.

Vehicle has to be inspected by a TMR rep to remove the incumbent document, which means booking in and paying for the privilege.
More vehicles with a repair order issued under false intent (not yet approved for amendment) means more TMR office bookings means more cash to the gubbamint.......for a few plods standing roadside pulling in vehicles they believe defective with 3 days of training.

[doc evil]

A cheat sheet 

[tryagain]

Certainly an interesting era we live in now, people seem happy to make assertions without any evidence, when contradictory facts are bought into the discussion that disprove their assertion they just ignore them based on more baseless assertions.
It's not worth continually correcting the errors with some as it is just ignored. I guess it's true that you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink.

[Lobster]

Very Interesting reading from 4WD-QLD-Press-Release-2018-4WDs-Targeted-in-State-Wide-Modification-Crackdown.pdf.

[Fizzie]

It mentions a 3 day blitz on the Gold Coast, but my Nephew got pulled over in his 4WD at Burpengary (North Side of Brisbane and he passed)

What was he in, did he have any mod's & what did they check

[Fizzie]

A cheat sheet 

& don't give out the e-mail address down the bottom of the the form, because it's for Police & DTMR use only

[GBC]

A cheat sheet 

Looks just like the qcop - amazing. It’s a conspiracy!

Aaron Schubert - they are adding tyre and suspension heights here on ESC vehicles which looks like combination lifts under 50mm might just scrape through.

[Pottsy]

There was no warning, no mention of it, no signed. Ambush.

ESC equipt vehicles were allowed a small upgrade, now they are not.

Gestapo, can interpret the rules. Laws are always open to interpretation. Laws changed with no warning.

They could of provided advice, guidance and provided a warning (unless it's the standard GQ with a P plate and the mods were dangerous) and let them go with a warning about the new laws. But they decided to defect evert body with any form of lift.

Seadoo, when the time comes and you or a member of your family needs the help of the "Gestapo" I hope you treat them with a bit more respect than your post indicates.

[Pete79]

Very Interesting reading from 4WD-QLD-Press-Release-2018-4WDs-Targeted-in-State-Wide-Modification-Crackdown.pdf.

There's been a few posts with this 4wd QLD press release, for those that don't feel like reading all of it allow me summarize...

4wd QLD went to the Queensland government and demanded that they be a part of the discussions relating to vehicle modifications and this was the official response from the gov;


 

[wada4wd]

ESC equipt vehicles were allowed a small upgrade, now they are not.

Sorry SEADOO, you are incorrect.

With ESC
A suspension lift up to and including 50mm is acceptable under self-certification. A vehicle lift over 50 mm or due to a combination of any other lift (tyres, or body blocks) requires certification and testing by an Approved Person.

https://www.tmr.qld.gov.au/-/media/Safety/Vehicle-standards-and-modifications/Vehicle-standards/Vehicle-standards-instructions/G19.pdf?la=en

[DannyG]

Certainly an interesting era we live in now, people seem happy to make assertions without any evidence, when contradictory facts are bought into the discussion that disprove their assertion they just ignore them based on more baseless assertions.
It's not worth continually correcting the errors with some as it is just ignored. I guess it's true that you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink.

Perfect

[SEADOO]

Sorry SEADOO, you are incorrect.
https://www.tmr.qld.gov.au/-/media/Safety/Vehicle-standards-and-modifications/Vehicle-standards/Vehicle-standards-instructions/G19.pdf?la=en

Ok, apologies, there seems to be so much bullShit written on this topic now. I thought they changed the rules.

So my 2017 MQ Triton with a 30mm suspension lift and 265/70/16's is still legal?

[weeds]

Can anybody make this link work for post 1999

http://www.rms.nsw.gov.au/rvd-pre1999/index.htm


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[Hoyks]

Nope, its broken. It was working a few weeks ago when I was doing some research, but I'm guessing someone broke it.

When it worked you would select the vehicle and it would output a report like this one attached:

[Bigfish]

Pre99 ok after that it looks like the site may have been taken down....time for another conspiracy theory maybe?

[Paddler Ed]

Can anybody make this link work for post 1999

http://www.rms.nsw.gov.au/rvd-pre1999/index.htm


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Nope, its broken. It was working a few weeks ago when I was doing some research, but I'm guessing someone broke it.

When it worked you would select the vehicle and it would output a report like this one attached:

Pre99 ok after that it looks like the site may have been taken down....time for another conspiracy theory maybe?

No, it's buggered...

BUT... there is a rough as guts 1990s style website from Federal Government that has more information on it:
http://rvcs.infrastructure.gov.au/pls/wwws/pubrvcs.Notify_Search

On STATUS select "ALL", and just use the Manufacturer name

[Beachman]

Yes..because before the blitz they pulled random cars over for random inspections, normal everyday activity for police and department of transport.


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You say random, but my nephew says the only cars being pulled over for inspection were newish 4WD utes.

[Beachman]

What was he in, did he have any mod's & what did they check

He was in a 12 month old Ranger which he changed back to a legal lift and put the original tyres/rims back on a couple of days before. His previous lift/tyres weren't crazy, but still illegal. So he is glad he spent a couple of hours working on his car as saved him a fine.

[weeds]

No, it's buggered...

BUT... there is a rough as guts 1990s style website from Federal Government that has more information on it:
http://rvcs.infrastructure.gov.au/pls/wwws/pubrvcs.Notify_Search

On STATUS select "ALL", and just use the Manufacturer name

Thanks for that.....although I think I’m more confused

My car complies but I don’t get how they

- measure unladen
- measure arch opening when OEM flare is fitted
- full bump doesn’t add up either.

Either way, if I’m ever pulled over I’m sure they will notice my rear coils missing, hopefully blue plate will be fitted in time.


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[plusnq]

Thanks for that.....although I think I’m more confused

My car complies but I don’t get how they

- measure unladen
- measure arch opening when OEM flare is fitted
- full bump doesn’t add up either.

Either way, if I’m ever pulled over I’m sure they will notice my rear coils missing, hopefully blue plate will be fitted in time.


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Are you on airbags weeds?

[Fizzie]

He was in a 12 month old Ranger which he changed back to a legal lift and put the original tyres/rims back on a couple of days before.

So to all intents, it was a stock standard vehicle