Leadership spill happened...

[GeoffA]

Envelopes are so 20th century....

FWIW, I was being facetious in my earlier post. Political threads have a history of bringing out the worst in some of us.

Hoping this one doesn't go the same way....

 

[Pete79]

Sorry Kev, but if I was Dutton I would go over and grab Turnbal by the balls ops sorry don't think he has any and tell him that   stop being a faggot and piss off cause most of us are feed up with you lefty/greeny attitude.

The only problem is, it’s a fact that the majority of Australians voted for Turnbull and his lefty greeny policies. Not Dutton or Abbott.
Turnbull made his positions very clear before he rolled Abbott. He continued with that stance into the next election, which he won.

But if Abbott, Dutton and all of the other backstabbers think they know better then the majority of Australians, then they are about to get a long over due reality check.

I don’t disagree with one of the earlier comments on here about conservatives wanting a right wing candidate to vote for. That’s fair enough, every democracy needs all sorts of different voices.

There’s no doubt the voices on the far right have a lot of radio shock jocks and “news” networks for them to shout their opinions at us.
Just don’t get all sookie when your hard right stance and house wrecking tactics get those free thinkers in the middle offside and move their votes elsewhere.

[Moxley]

The only problem is, it’s a fact that the majority of Australians voted for Turnbull and his lefty greeny policies. Not Dutton or Abbott.
Turnbull made his positions very clear before he rolled Abbott. He continued with that stance into the next election, which he won.

But if Abbott, Dutton and all of the other backstabbers think they know better then the majority of Australians, then they are about to get a long over due reality check.

I don’t disagree with one of the earlier comments on here about conservatives wanting a right wing candidate to vote for. That’s fair enough, every democracy needs all sorts of different voices.

There’s no doubt the voices on the far right have a lot of radio shock jocks and “news” networks for them to shout their opinions at us.
Just don’t get all sookie when your hard right stance and house wrecking tactics get those free thinkers in the middle offside and move their votes elsewhere.

That’s makes a lot of sense.

It’ll be interesting to see if and how long the Liberal Party lasts.

If they are made up of 48 moderates.  Then if you combine that with the ALP and the Greens, that seems to be a majority versus just 35 on the other side, perhaps with Katter too.

[McGirr]

Stuff it I am going to join in also. I just need to get my policies in order. 

Prime Minster McGirr

[Cruiser 105Tvan]

Stuff it I am going to join in also. I just need to get my policies in order. 

Prime Minster McGirr

Have you been buying Insurance again?

[prodigyrf]

No forget the media banging on about personalities as this is all about policy and what's brought it to the fore is our national electricity grid that's fast heading for a train wreck and what to do about it. Politicians get regular feedback in their electorates and the worrying aspect is complaints about power prices both from consumers and business. That has to be addressed pronto whoever's in power and at present that's the Coalition but if they can't sort it, Labor and the Greens will have to. The wets in Govt reckon they can solve it less controversially with the NEG proposal and still pay homage to climate change with solar and wind while the dries are shaking their heads and wanting to ditch the IPCC nonsense.

Who's right remains to be seen but one thing's for sure wind and solar without despatchability won't cut it and you can see that with SA at the forefront of wind adoption and the highest power prices in the world along with countries like Denmark. Solar and wind have been bludging off thermal insurers and not paying them their just premiums and consequently the owners are running them down with a view to retirement and that clock is ticking. Yes you can make unreliables despatchable but only at much greater cost but already the pips are squeaking with power prices now and long term decisions have to made urgently or the brownouts will come if nothing is done about it. In SA we saw that panic with the Wetherill Govt installing 9 diesel generators, albeit with a look over there unicorn Tesla Big Battery. As it transpired SA had a mild summer but that will change particularly with more coal fired stations to close and increasing reliance on expensive gas peaking plants to fill the void. 


This is all about power alright but it's the stuff that keeps us all in the manner to which we've become accustomed and any reasonably astute politician would know it. Do we do a Trump and ditch the emissions aspirations or not, that is the fundamental question being fought over in Canberra now although there's a lot of smoke and mirrors going on with it.

[macca]

Who would have ever thought that there was another government in the developed world that could make the Trump administration look intelligent or more importantly another prominent Australian that could make Australia look even more stupid than Steve Smith


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[Fizzie]

The problem is you are still voting for a major party because that's where your preferences flow

& the answer to that one is to scrap the whole preferential voting setup in favour of first past the post, & if that means you've got 30 independents in Parliament, then that is what the voters (you remember them - the people of Australia who gave you the job ) obviously wanted.

It'll never happen though, because both major parties know that they'd lose seats

[Fizzie]

But if Abbott, Dutton and all of the other backstabbers think they know better then the majority of Australians, then they are about to get a long over due reality check.

& a lot of this debacle can be laid fair & square in Abbott's lap

I hope you're happy with yourself now Tone, now that it looks like you've ensured that Labor wins the next election

[Isuzumu]

& a lot of this debacle can be laid fair & square in Abbott's lap

I hope you're happy with yourself now Tone, now that it looks like you've ensured that Labor wins the next election

Oh and Turnball was going to win the next election, bullShit, he only just got in last time by one seat. And what an ego Turnball has, he is a selfish bastard.

[MattNQ]

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[terravista]

The only problem is, it’s a fact that the majority of Australians voted for Turnbull and his lefty greeny policies. Not Dutton or Abbott.

Not a fact and no they didn't.
They voted for all the local parasites with the knowledge that this POS Turnbull would be PM.

[Rumpig]

Bishop knocked out in first round, Morrison gets up 45 - 40 over Dutton.
Party is still split about 50/50 by the looks of it, won't have changed a thing internally with the division in the Liberals

[Bird]

Bishop knocked out in first round, Morrison gets up 45 - 40 over Dutton.
Party is still split about 50/50 by the looks of it, won't have changed a thing internally with the division in the Liberals

bad luck to Mr Potato head.

[Pete79]

Now ScoMo has to start his new job and we’re all going to hear how he is going to “stop the votes”.....


And some numbers for those that like that sort of stuff...

“Taxpayers have already forked out $8 million this week to run Parliament as 85 Liberal Party politicians on base salaries of $207,000 claimed an extra $24,000 in daily travel allowance to decide who should be prime minister.
Parliament doesn't normally sit on Friday but Turnbull Government members are staying in Canberra to decide who should replace Malcolm Turnbull in a leadership spill on Friday afternoon.

....

Federal politicians are entitled to a $285 in travel allowance, on top of their accommodation, which means 83 Liberal MPs in the national capital are costing taxpayers an extra $24,225 because they couldn't resolve the issue on Thursday.

The Liberal Party's second leadership ballot in just three days occurred as parliament passed no new major laws, despite costing taxpayers an average of $8 million to run during sitting weeks. Government MPs also used their numbers in the House of Representatives to dissolve parliament so Liberal members could discuss their leadership crisis.

On Thursday, they resolved to delay the Liberal party room meeting until Friday, with 45 of the 85 in the room voting to go ahead with a spill motion.
Three cabinet ministers, on salaries of $382,000 a year, had fought to replace Mr Turnbull as prime minister in the Liberal Party's first three-way leadership contest since 2009.
Mr Turnbull, who earnt $538,000 a year as prime minister, will continue to receive a taxpayer-funded office and staff for life along with free first class flights.

The Department of Parliamentary Services costs taxpayers $149 million a year to run, average at close to $8 million a year during the 19 sitting weeks.”

I think we’d all agree that’s been money well spent...

[Rumpig]

bad luck to Mr Potato head.

well played Turnbull I reckon....Duttons backers thought they could pressure Turnbull into leaving on thier terms and have Dutton walk straight into his spot, instead Turnbull bought enough time in the end to get the guy that he'd prefer replace him into the lead role. Seeing Abbott's face as he walked out of the meeting was gold, he's clearly not happy with today's result.....sadly he'll still be there in the background trying to run the country the way he wants it's run, a shame he's not gone altogether also.

[Pottsy]

Now watch the media go into a frenzy about the new divisions within the Libs due to prime minister Morrison getting up, if they would just shut their yaps and support the present incumbent maybe they could get on with governing the country.
All this Shit will do is have people voting for independents and we will end up with another minority government which in effect hamstrings us for another four years.

[Bigfish]

They have effectively given the next election win to Labour.    If they were only 20% as keen to do the right thing for the people they are supposed to represent, as the effort they put into looking after themselves and their salaries Oz would be a country with a  tremendous future. 3 days of sniveling, backstabbing, wanking  and what for?   
Absolutely disgusting what has gone on.  I don't give a fig about left or right policies...that's all bullShit.  We need governments that will put its people first. Poverty, homelessness, suicide, crime, corporate greed, farming, industry and any other thing that needs addressing have been thrown out.  We must win and look after ourselves at any cost.  Arseholes the lot of them.

[Bird]

Politics in this country is nothing more than Entertainment..
Like AFL/NRL/RU/Cricket/Diveball...

The days of politicians giving .1% of a **** about the country over winning the next election disappeared a long time ago...

[Bunyip]

and change the batteries in your fire alarms

[Jeepers Creepers]

well played Turnbull I reckon....Duttons backers thought they could pressure Turnbull into leaving on thier terms and have Dutton walk straight into his spot, instead Turnbull bought enough time in the end to get the guy that he'd prefer replace him into the lead role. Seeing Abbott's face as he walked out of the meeting was gold, he's clearly not happy with today's result.....sadly he'll still be there in the background trying to run the country the way he wants it's run, a shame he's not gone altogether also.

I bet all those who backed Sir Potato Head, are now all sniffing and licking around Scott Morrison's bum.
Scotty..... maaaaate, we only backed what's  his face, cause we knew you'd get in, maaaaate.... seriously.
It was the entire plan all along, Scotty..... maaaate, honest ....would we lie about something like that?

[Bird]

I bet all those who backed Sir Potato Head, are now all sniffing and licking around Scott Morrison's bum.
Scotty..... maaaaate, we only backed what's  his face, cause we knew you'd get in, maaaaate.... seriously.
It was the entire plan all along, Scotty..... maaaate, honest ....would we lie about something like that?

Yep, wait for the mini series.. Oh hang on we just had it.

[Hookie]

Mr Turnbull, who earnt $538,000 a year as prime minister, will continue to receive a taxpayer-funded office and staff for life along with free first class flights.

That's horseShit. They should be means tested, same as every other pensioner. Turnbull's worth over 200 million, why should taxpayers keep adding to his pile for the next 30 years?

[Nomad]

And after all of this, in my opinion, which I admit is just like anyone elses asshole, is they still voted the wrong person in. Julie Bishop is the only marketable person the Libs have got. ScoMo is just short of being a blithering idiot, Dutton is seen as a Nazi. Bishop would have kept a fair majority of the Lib voters and got the womens vote the same as Gillard got. The lot of them are too stupid for words.

[Bigfish]

And after all of this, in my opinion, which I admit is just like anyone elses asshole, is they still voted the wrong person in. Julie Bishop is the only marketable person the Libs have got. ScoMo is just short of being a blithering idiot, Dutton is seen as a Nazi. Bishop would have kept a fair majority of the Lib voters and got the womens vote the same as Gillard got. The lot of them are too stupid for words.

I agree....still ,   .  Who cares.  The government certainly dont.    Dutton will be so far up Morrisons date that he wont see daylight for weeks.