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Re: Patriot Campers - Gas fitting recall
« Reply #25 on: December 31, 2017, 09:14:40 PM »
I'm not sure if the Patriot guy is confused or whether this is clever spin to take attention off the fact the gas installation is illegal and to maybe also have a dig at the DNRM.

Some points on the Patriot gas installation;
* The Australian Standard for Gas installations (AS5601) is exactly that - it applies to Australia, not just Queensland.
* It doesn't matter where the installation was made/designed. As above, it has to be compliant with the Australian Standard.
* Two hoses cannot be joined together (which is essentially what the Patriot installation was).
* As the cooker and the hose assembly were 'fixed' to the camper trailer then the installation must be compliant with AS5601. Change it so the installation is not fixed and it doesn't have to comply with AS5601.

Also;
* AS5601 does not apply to portable appliances.
* AS5601 definition of a portable appliance; "An appliance designed to be carried by the user from place to place, as required."
* AS5601 applies to 'fixed gas installations'. No definition is given.
* In a caravan gas installation (camper trailer is classed as a caravan) cookers must have flame failure. Portable cookers do not. Up until recently Bromic had two versions of this cooker - one with flame failure (for caravans) and one without flame failure (for camping and outdoor use). The cooker without flame failure has recently been discontinued.

To clear up some other points;
* Quick connect devices are not illegal (assuming the actual fitting is approved for gas installations). There are a number of conditions for use.
* Bayonet points are classed as a quick connect device
* Gas installations do not have to be brought up to current standards at the time of compliance (some Gas Fitters may apply the current standard to ensure that the installation is as safe/compliant as it can be).
Sixty's guy you have pretty well summed up the situation, and mirroring what I mentioned in earlier post. Qld DNMR has enforced that the stove is installed and so requires this to be completed by a gas fitter and certified by that same gas fitter. Patriot is  either throwing out a smoke screen or have misunderstood the requirements.
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Re: Patriot Campers - Gas fitting recall
« Reply #26 on: February 18, 2018, 09:51:42 AM »
Notice this issue bouncing around some forums, how is this effecting lifestyle campers? Is the stove considered a fixed or portable installation? The hose is well over 1.5m that appears to be also a concern. Thoughts?
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