An interesting read about Track Trailers

[DannyG]

Very interesting. Ive never really been a fan of the Tvan, i think they look weird! I dont mind the topaz and I can understand the 'mate' so I guess they have a little something for everyone.
They are pricey though but obviously people are seeing the value in them and are buying them.

[Discoduck]

As a new Tvan owner, I thought I might comment.
I went the Tvan way as, by reputation, there wouldn't be any restrictions on where it could go. Also Track Trailer's stated business is to ensure that any product of theirs will not fail and will get you home again. I like that. Especially since I travel alone.
Now the question is, will I go to all those lovely out-of-the way places? No idea, but I believe that without the Tvan I'm possibly drawing a line under the opportunity.
As for the coffin like sleeping, I must admit that I've bumped my head a couple of times, but other than that I'm not aware of the low ceiling height. Couple of reds with dinner and sleep comes very easily. .
As for cost, I suppose value, like beauty, is in the eye of the beholder. Also, as mentioned, the resale value when I do move it on.
Like most, I've seen off-road vans, campers, all sorts in caravan parks, but who knows what their full journey is? I stayed in a CP on my way home from a week camping on the side of the roads up at Cameron Corner. It was nice to have a shower. To the casual observer was I just some wally with a Tvan that never gets dirty?
Anyway, each to their own.
Have a great Christmas    and maybe see you in bush some time.

[Cruiser 105Tvan]

As a new Tvan owner, I thought I might comment.
I went the Tvan way as, by reputation, there wouldn't be any restrictions on where it could go. Also Track Trailer's stated business is to ensure that any product of theirs will not fail and will get you home again. I like that. Especially since I travel alone.
Now the question is, will I go to all those lovely out-of-the way places? No idea, but I believe that without the Tvan I'm possibly drawing a line under the opportunity.
As for the coffin like sleeping, I must admit that I've bumped my head a couple of times, but other than that I'm not aware of the low ceiling height. Couple of reds with dinner and sleep comes very easily. .
As for cost, I suppose value, like beauty, is in the eye of the beholder. Also, as mentioned, the resale value when I do move it on.
Like most, I've seen off-road vans, campers, all sorts in caravan parks, but who knows what their full journey is? I stayed in a CP on my way home from a week camping on the side of the roads up at Cameron Corner. It was nice to have a shower. To the casual observer was I just some wally with a Tvan that never gets dirty?
Anyway, each to their own.

 

Have a great Christmas    and maybe see you in bush some time.
Back at ya.

[Alan Loy]

Gee, insane saving - I don't know how it lasted this long... LOL!
Plenty of suckers out there with too much money.

I have to put my hand up here.  I'm one of the suckers who bought a Firetail and got the saving.  Pick it up in February 

[Alien]

The banter on here reminds me of the old "four n twenty" add,
https://youtu.be/Qnb73aM78vw
I suspect a lot of folk don't know what they are missing out on being Track-less.
Once you've had a Track there is no going back

A Tvan works for us for a number of reasons.
I often land at camp just as the sun rises after a full nights work and traveling.
For these trips a quick setup allows us to be in bed in under 3 minutes from pulling up.
Like any thing there are faults but I know my van will happily bop along behind me anywhere I choose  to go.
I know a lot of people with fold out campers who don't get away as often as we do due to setup/pack up times.
There biggest gripe is opening it all up at home again to restock and dry things out, I only have 4 latches and we are done.
I've spent a lot of time watching people set up and pack up various options and have learnt a lot.
It was why we bought an Oztent instead of threading fibreglass poles and fluffing with nylon flies.
This worked for over 8 years with the family but now they have moved out it was time to spoil ourselves a little. 

[Alan Loy]

My reasons for being a sucker

I've wanted one since they came out
They are as tough as my Patrol and can go most of the same places
They are a reasonable weight ie 1500kg full
Quick setup and no issues with a wet pack up
I don't mind the low head height in bed

After the Mk IV came out they had solved the biggest issue with the previous models by lowering the ball weight (other advantages but that was the deal maker).  If I hadn't been able to afford a Mk Iv then I would have gone for a Mk II with the basic kitchen to reduce the ball weight.

[Bad Scott]

My motto. Work hard, Play harder. That's why we have an Ultimate 

[scott13april]

From the article what camper is this?

https://www.campertraileraustralia.com.au/media/17011073/future-of-track-trailer-3.jpg



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[Cruiser 105Tvan]

My reasons for being a sucker

I've wanted one since they came out
They are as tough as my Patrol and can go most of the same places
They are a reasonable weight ie 1500kg full
Quick setup and no issues with a wet pack up
I don't mind the low head height in bed

After the Mk IV came out they had solved the biggest issue with the previous models by lowering the ball weight (other advantages but that was the deal maker).  If I hadn't been able to afford a Mk Iv then I would have gone for a Mk II with the basic kitchen to reduce the ball weight.

They have the battery/'s in the back now, and  the water tank is 100 litre capacity to balance against the front weight.

[Joff]

Most of them probably have not taken them where we have taken our Jayco. Oh forgot they are like sleeping in a f"cking coffin.

But on average and despite where you may have taken your Jayco, there are many many more Tvans out in the remote places that Jaycos.

[Pete79]

I really like the Tvans!
Can't see that I would be able to afford to buy one for a very long time, but doesn't mean I can't admire them.

After reading that article I like them even more now.
When the director has this sort of philosophy, the company can only produce good things for those of us that like things a little bit different and get really bored with all of the same-same.

"No Track Trailer product will ever look like grandma’s bedroom with chintz curtains and the like," he said. "Our customers have a different aesthetic goal."

"is adamant that the tandem offroader will be far from a ‘me too’ approach, adding that under his resurgent leadership its potential will be uncorked in other innovative ways."

[Alan Loy]

They have the battery/'s in the back now, and  the water tank is 100 litre capacity to balance against the front weight.

They also redesigned the front and front "box" using different materials as well.  They say that they lost about 30kg from the box.

[Isuzumu]

But on average and despite where you may have taken your Jayco, there are many many more Tvans out in the remote places that Jaycos.

To me it is more about value for your buck, so I may not be able to take our Jayco where the Tvan can go, but I can do places in a lot more comfort. But we do have a couple of things up our sleeves. These photos may explain.
1. Our Jayco and it's set up, which is towed by our D.Max.
2. Our very capable off road MU and dual purpose off road .trailer

[Alan Loy]

I think that buying a Tvan is a little like buying Benz.  There are less expensive cars that will do the the same thing (mostly) but if you want one then a Commodore is a compromise

I currently have an Outback Canning that will get me a lot of places for under $10K, now I'm spending almost $60K.  I understand if you think I'm mad but to me it seems like money well spent.

[oldmate]

My motto. Work hard, Play harder. That's why we have an Ultimate 

You are the smartest bloke on this forum.

[GeoffA]

You are the smartest bloke on this forum.

You haven't met him, have you?.......

[oldmate]

You haven't met him, have you?.......

PMSL.  Actually i have, and he does have some downsides, but in this argument, i will back him up. even though he drives a yota.   

[GeoffA]

PMSL.  Actually i have, and he does have some downsides, but in this argument, i will back him up. even though he drives a yota.   

You would....but no downside. A great bloke.....other than the yota thing....

[Rumpig]

Perceived value is different for everyone...compromising on being able to go somewhere for what someone else calls more comfort, wouldn't be seen as value to some....they'd likely see it as an inconvenience and waste of money. The beauty of this world is that everyone likes different things, and has different needs and wants...hence why there are so many different makes and models of tents, swags, campers and caravans in the market place.

[oldmate]

Perceived value is different for everyone...compromising on being able to go somewhere for what someone else calls more comfort, wouldn't be seen as value to some....they'd likely see it as an inconvenience and waste of money. The beauty of this world is that everyone likes different things, and has different needs and wants...hence why there are so many different males and models of tents, swags, campers and caravans in the market place.

Yep agreed mate.

You would....but no downside. A great bloke.....other than the yota thing....

i can let that slip past dont worry. 

[Joff]

To me it is more about value for your buck, so I may not be able to take our Jayco where the Tvan can go, but I can do places in a lot more comfort. But we do have a couple of things up our sleeves. These photos may explain.
1. Our Jayco and it's set up, which is towed by our D.Max.
2. Our very capable off road MU and dual purpose off road .trailer

Yeah, i dont buy the comfort thing. Dont get me wrong im looking at caravans for my next itteration but i know i will be compromising on certain things to get convenience. Cumfort isnt one of them.

[BaseCamp]

but i know i will be compromising on certain things to get convenience. Cumfort isnt one of them.

Geezs mate...   without any lov'n  ... or cumfort;  ..what's the point of going camping?    LOL    hehe   



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[Joff]

Im not suggesting there is no cumfort. Quite the opposite. Im saying you can be supremely cumfortable in a camper so a caravan (or big fat camper trying hard not to be a caravan) isnt necessarily  a step up in that respect.

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[patroldude]

Had our MK111 Tvan from new for just over 5 years now. Have been on endless hard tracks - Simpson Desert, CapeYork Frenchmans track and Old Telegraph Track, Palmer river Gold Fields up the real Maytown track past folders hotel - Cape Melville, Down the Hay River track, up the CREB track etc etc. took every hard option on every track, pushed the crap out of the Tvan everywhere, over the worst corrugations. And after all that I've had to repair ............ zip - zero - zilch
Stop set up in a couple of minutes, drink BEER
That's why you buy a Tvan - simply the best suspension on any camper, with the build quality of the camper to match.
Seen plenty of Jaycos in caravan parks as we pass by Lol
























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