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« Reply #25 on: August 14, 2016, 03:25:44 PM »
I'm sorry, either I misread your response or you're somehow implying that this actually my fault. Do you work for Telstra?

I phoned to ask to upgrade my service. The guy I spoke to suggested what would be best and told me what should be expected when it was changed. Why shouldn't I believe him? That's the point of him being there! He should know what the options are a lot better than I do and should also know the implications of changing the contract and based on that he should advise the best option to take. That's his job!

What is in the contract is frankly immaterial to this conversation anyway. This thread is primarily aimed at bagging Telstra because of their abysmal service. That service includes the muppets they employ to answer their phones at the call centres. In my case either a) they didn't do what they said they would, or b) the advice their customer service team gave was BS, so in both cases their customer service is bad. I then tried to chase them up and spoke to multiple people, none of which could actually resolve the problem, so again demonstrating ineffective customer service. In addition, the advice they give on the phone should be as binding as what is in the contract. They should be bound to do what they said they would whether it is actually technically correct or not. They even record the damn calls but I guess they only use that against the customers if they do something contrary to what they have agreed. Funny how they don't seem to want to find the call recording of the guy the telling me what I should be paying.

Whichever way you look at it, their customer service is lousy.
pretty much had the exact same experience when we changed our home internet over to Telstra...long story short, it took over a month to do, numerous phone calls made, appointments made for someone to come to our house and then not met by them (got to love waiting for a no show), different technicians eventually coming out to say different things required (no you don't need a new line run to the house and then yes you do need a new line), eventually get it all hooked up and the first bill we cop from them is rediculously expensive which is then changed to be $400 odd cheaper, 3 or 4 times we rang after it was hooked up as they had us on the wrong plan even though we signed paperwork in a store for what we wanted....the way they run the company seriously is a bad joke.
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« Reply #26 on: August 18, 2016, 11:18:06 PM »
No I don't work for Telstra but one thing I did learn growing up is when me mum kept telling me I was special, she really meant unique and not that special and I've worked out counter jocks and call centre operators aren't that special either. It probably helps having been in biz and having to deal with large corporate suppliers and I keep records of everything, particularly contractual obligations and I don't sign nuthin without reading it all through.

One thing gets drilled into you in biz is a contract is a contract and your word is your bond. Essentially it's an offer, an acceptance and a consideration and once you sign on the dotted line as an adult, mum doesn't enter into it anymore. It's binding and enforceable in the Courts for both parties, the same as a verbal contract is, but the latter all too often gets down to he says/she says and who to believe?  That's why I say you're dreaming if you think you can organise important contractual obligations over the phone nowadays, with varying skill levels residing in large corporations and the continual tales of woe bear that out. As the man said, stupidity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different outcome and besides it's many years since big biz had the margins to check yer oil, water and tyres, etc when you anointed them with the price of a tank of petrol.

You got it in writing you got something for any letter of demand, legal eagle or higher authority to get their teeth into, but a recall of a lazy conversation with a lackey over the phone is simply asking for mum to wipe your nose for you again. I drum it into the kids and cry me a river if they choose to ignore it and you want any sympathy go see yer mother.



 

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« Reply #27 on: August 18, 2016, 11:52:17 PM »
Well said.... 

I am almost sad to confess here that I spent 3.5 hours one bored Saturday (at work); reading the (lets estimate); 10,000 words of fine print BS in my latest caravan comprehensive insurance  PDS....   

This included speaking with 3 seperate goons / departments in their call centre; ncluding being escalated to a top goon in their claims section...   (the only guy capable of answering some of my concerns and questions)....

I was just trying to get to the bottom of what was so much "get out of dodge BS clauses" and meanings/interpretations  embedded in the PDS - which was of course all to the insurance company's advantage...

Up shot of the whole "investigation" was that the big-cheese guy I lastly spoke with --  "basically admitted it was muchly BS"....   and volunteered me his direct number - so that in the event that I ever had to make a claim; he would be on hand to be sure to apply the company's "discretionary powers"   ....  and get my claim pushed through!

People - if you only knew how much total BS is in your insurance PDS; you would be very unimpressed.....

Long story short - they have so much discretion in their PDS to wipe you - particularly if your incident / claim is part of some big and costly (to them) claims / weather event....

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« Reply #28 on: August 19, 2016, 01:11:57 AM »
Yeah the funny thing is the kids reckon I'm an old fart living in the past when I cut my teeth after school and Sat mornings filling the tanks, checking the oil and water and listening carefully for the petrol rising up the filler neck lest I spilled a drop and the ikey old Bs would want a penny or tuppence off and it would come out of my wages.

They don't get it. OTOH they'll drop their phone provider at the click of a mouse for a slightly better deal elsewhere and yet they expect to be treated like royalty when they ring up to spend a few measly bucks. There's no loyalty whatsoever toward the service providers so what do they expect? Phds at the other end of the phone, all fully conversant with the nuances of every plan and offer when they're changing so regularly to meet a fickle constituency? The instant twitter/ facebook/sms generation that think the cut-throat world of competition revolves around them the moment they deem to call. Get real and then they're so eager to get their mitts on the latest gadgetry anything else they're being told is going straight in one ear and out the other.

Here's the typical instant generation that crawl all over whirlpool forums looking for sympathy from mum and all he's getting is dads giving him the facts of life-
https://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=2558325
The ADHD generation that can't read more than a sentence or two anymore and reckon call centre operators should be into Shakespeare or whatever. Priceless!


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« Reply #29 on: August 19, 2016, 07:04:57 AM »
Havent read the whole thread but Telstra are not my favourite people, i have had crap internet for a month now and lodged a complaint over a week ago in it i have asked what it will cost me to dump my broadband plan so i can go with someone else. They wont tell me,  they just keep giving me the run around. Unfortunately i just bought a new phone with them but as my contracts come up i am going to end my association with them, not sure i qualify for jumping ship and expecting to be treated like royalty but i have been with them for 30 years,  it wont get to 32

BTW do you think i have a legitimate problem,  my download speed is 0.29Mbps and upload is 0.06Mbps and this is in the SE of Melbourne with a cable broadband plan. All i am asking them is to fix the problem and in the meantime stop charging me top dollars for a product they are not providing

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« Reply #30 on: August 19, 2016, 01:26:27 PM »
What is in the contract is frankly immaterial to this conversation anyway.
That is so funny. :laugh:

Imagine a company sticking to the terms of the contract YOU signed. The gall of them.

The verbal chat you had with a customer service person is worth the paper it is printed on.

WHY are people saying there is NO choice other than Telstra - off the top of my head without trying you have the choice of: Optus, Vodafone, Virgin, Amaysim, Foxtel, Macquarie and many many other phone providers.
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« Reply #31 on: August 19, 2016, 01:28:13 PM »
That is so funny. :laugh:

Imagine a company sticking to the terms of the contract YOU signed. The gall of them.

The verbal chat you had with a customer service person is worth the paper it is printed on.

WHY are people saying there is NO choice other than Telstra - off the top of my head without trying you have the choice of: Optus, Vodafone, Virgin, Amaysim, Foxtel, Macquarie and many many other phone providers.

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« Reply #32 on: August 19, 2016, 01:32:21 PM »
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WHY are people saying there is NO choice other than Telstra - off the top of my head without trying you have the choice of: Optus, Vodafone, Virgin, Amaysim, Foxtel, Macquarie and many many other phone providers.
and not one of them is worth a pinch of Shit.
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« Reply #33 on: August 19, 2016, 01:32:26 PM »
Sometimes having dummies in positions of authority in these telco places can be a bonus.. I do know of someone that had over 3 years of free unlimited internet,[  even though they notified the provider over several times ] eventualy the bloke who authorised it either woke up or got the arse and things resumed as normal . :cup:
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« Reply #34 on: August 19, 2016, 01:38:24 PM »
and not one of them is worth a pinch of Shit.
Then change this bitching, whining and moaning thread to call it "Phone companies are Shit". Not just Telstra.

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« Reply #35 on: August 19, 2016, 02:08:24 PM »
After being with one telco for 15 years in the UK (always on contracts) I decided that the recharge option is the way to go. I got onto (the now discontinued) Boost tariff of $40 per month (now 28 days) with unlimited calls and texts, 3GB of data to use Monday to Friday and an extra 2GB each weekend. Best of all, its full 4G Telstra. If you join now it also includes overseas calls to selected countries for about 100mins a 28 day period. Ok I have to bring my own phone, but its a lot cheaper.

With the internet, I'm lucky I have NBN to the door, but I went with a small provider who have been great; three years with them and the outages that have been their fault (and longer than a couple of hours) can be counted on my thumbs... $60 a month for 25/10 and 100GB 11am-11pm peak and the same for off peak (so usable times)

However, I have also benefited from conversations being recorded; I once had an insurer in the UK who told me it would not cost extra to take my car overseas. Went to take it overseas and it was £75 extra... They were told to listen to the conversation and all of a sudden no charge..  After that I've always made sure of a full description of everything is on the conversation even if they dont want it!

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« Reply #36 on: August 19, 2016, 02:50:49 PM »
I would also definitely recommend BOOST. Yes you had to byo phone, but there are so many great, cheap outright phones to choose from nowadays. You get full Telstra 4G coverage, unlimited calls and texts and 9gig of data all up for $40/a month. I've been with them for 2 years and never had a drama and the reception is excellent.
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« Reply #37 on: August 19, 2016, 03:35:35 PM »
I would also definitely recommend BOOST. Yes you had to byo phone, but there are so many great, cheap outright phones to choose from nowadays. You get full Telstra 4G coverage, unlimited calls and texts and 9gig of data all up for $40/a month. I've been with them for 2 years and never had a drama and the reception is excellent.
My kids phone is with AMAYSIM, for $25/month it is unlimited calls, SMS, 4gb data. It is on Optus network and bring own phone, but for the kids its only in Sydney so good coverage. And that price is damn good value.
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« Reply #38 on: August 19, 2016, 04:17:43 PM »
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Then change this bitching, whining and moaning thread to call it "Phone companies are Shit". Not just Telstra.
You'd have no complaints from me on that one.
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« Reply #39 on: August 19, 2016, 04:38:35 PM »
I obviously am an exception!
I like my Telstra service. I have no complaints, in fact lately it seems to be getting even better (faster).
I have a home/office wireless broadband plan with Telstra. It meets all my needs for myself and my partner.
The improvements of late have been caused by two issues:
1. Local Telstra network equipment upgrade
2. Fixed wireless NBN has arrived in my area of central vic. While I cannot get it, it has seemingly moved quite a number of user from the wireless broadband to the NBN fixed wireless, thereby freeing up resources.

Locally IMHO Telstra is probably the only consistently reliable provider.

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« Reply #40 on: August 20, 2016, 12:45:29 AM »
My kids phone is with AMAYSIM, for $25/month it is unlimited calls, SMS, 4gb data. It is on Optus network and bring own phone, but for the kids its only in Sydney so good coverage. And that price is damn good value.
I was tempted to have a look at that deal for my wife, but it seems there's only 1.5gig of data at that price. Bugger.
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« Reply #41 on: August 20, 2016, 06:14:21 AM »
My kids phone is with AMAYSIM, for $25/month it is unlimited calls, SMS, 4gb data. It is on Optus network and bring own phone, but for the kids its only in Sydney so good coverage. And that price is damn good value.

Coverage is the reason we stay with Telstra. I guess most of their customers would say the same.
I have no complaints with their 'phone or internet service. Dealing with them however, can be a challenge at times.
I think we may finally be getting our issues sorted.

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« Reply #42 on: August 20, 2016, 09:20:17 AM »
Coverage is the reason we stay with Telstra. I guess most of their customers would say the same.
I have no complaints with their 'phone or internet service. Dealing with them however, can be a challenge at times.
I think we may finally be getting our issues sorted.

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100% agree...been with Telstra forever on my mobile phone, simply because of their coverage. The wife's phone was with Optus, and when at the SIL's property 10 minutes out of the centre of Gympie you were lucky to get reception on it, don't even  bother trying internet....rediculous considering we can see the glow of the city lights at night time there. SIL has had to change their home internet and mobiles to Telstra purely because they have given up with other companies that promise the world yet can't deliver Internet or decent mobile service to them. Such a shame they are so disorganised in the way the company runs when you want them to do something though.
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« Reply #43 on: August 20, 2016, 09:55:47 AM »
Also check Aldi mobile. They use the telstra network and for around $30 you get all calls and sms free as well as 2gb data. Need to bring your own phone.
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« Reply #44 on: August 22, 2016, 09:18:40 PM »
....I think we may finally be getting our issues sorted.....

Nope. Still stuffed.... ::) ::)
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« Reply #45 on: August 24, 2016, 09:46:24 PM »
There's no Great Evil conspiracy against consumers within engineering, manufacturing and supply. Just the many tradeoffs incurred to satisfy diverse tastes, priorities and wallets. But first comes all the insatiable Gummint eggsperts, nanny-staters and usual suspects.

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« Reply #46 on: August 25, 2016, 08:49:48 AM »
Trying for my third NBN appointment this afternoon. I am not holding my breath though!! They have not attended as booked the last twice.
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« Reply #47 on: September 09, 2016, 09:45:21 PM »
I think we are being conned with the NBN network that they are rolling out. Ok the 25mbps that my connection is now running at is better than the ADSL connectio of 1Mbps that I had a week ago before signing up for NBN. I just got back from Singapore on Tuesday and was amazed at the internet speeds at the hotel and from the Singtel sim card i got for wifes phone.
picked up a brochure from one of their stores ( their equivalent to Telstra ) and their home plans start at $49 for 500Mbps up to  $189 per month for  10 Gig per second.

http://www1.singtel.com/personal/internet/broadband-at-home/fibre-broadband-plans.html

Even their 1 Gig per second is  40 time faster than what NBN is offering and cheaper.

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« Reply #48 on: September 09, 2016, 11:51:52 PM »
Telstra....where do I start. Moved into a new house in Victoria a few years ago, Telstra were the only provider. I asked them to connect the phone and Internet, so they connect the phone to a house in Adelaide. They then charge me a disconnect fee and another new connection fee. They somehow stuffed that up too so when they tried to connect me a third time it tripped my credit rating and I had to wait another month.

In the meantime, because the house was in a mobile black spot and I work for a hospital, they had to make the phone work ASAP by law. So they sent a tech out to physically join the wires weeks before they actually processed it and also before anyone realised that the account was connected to a house in another state. Strangely the Internet wouldn't work so I rang them on the landline to query this. "Ah, I see sir. Your internet doesn't work because your phone is not connected". Finding this somewhat strange given that I had the phone in my hand and was speaking into it I asked, "so, can you see what number I am ringing you from?". "Yes sir". "And what number would that be?" "Your number sir." "Is that my number that is not connected?" "Yes sir". "So if the phone works why doesn't the Internet?". "Because your phone is not connected..."

Priceless.

Two years later they did it again even though we had long ditched Telstra for Optus. A Telstra tech still had to connect the new phone. The day they connected the phone to our current house it rang that evening. I answered it and a lady curtly enquired as to who I was. Before I could answer she followed up by demanding to know what I was doing in her house and what had I done with her 15 year old daughter who was home alone (on the other side of town) while her parents were overseas. Took them a whole week to fix that one.

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« Reply #49 on: September 10, 2016, 12:08:28 AM »
That's PRICELESS Peeb!!! :cup: :cup: :cup:
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