Author Topic: Looking for a new tow vehicle to replace the X-trail...$70K max and New!!! (Read 42512 times)

Topender · « **on:** October 21, 2015, 10:31:36 PM »

As the Subject and Question for the Poll suggests....what would you choose and why? I know I know, I've been around here long enough to know where this thread is headed but I've been waiting 18months for all of the above vehicles to be released (the mitsi is soon) and will be upgrading in the next 6 months or sooner.

Now the dilemma is the X-trail has and is a great little bus. It's great on fuel, tows fantastic for a car it's size and believe it or not is quite capable off road in the right hands. We want a little more luxury and room, better off road ability (especially towing the Swan), increased towing capacity and above all not much more fuel use than we are used to.

Go...flame suit on!

Dave

maximage · « **Reply #1 on:** October 21, 2015, 11:13:37 PM »

What about option 5 ... Pajero? More powerful and more direct handling than a Prado.

Topender · « **Reply #2 on:** October 21, 2015, 11:16:58 PM »

When they make a "new" Pajero I'll already have bought something else. I'm after new tech. not ten year old tech.

Dave

maximage · « **Reply #3 on:** October 21, 2015, 11:21:07 PM »

Understandable angle, but as mentioned that "10 year old tech" still has more power than a Prado. And also no DPF. Not sure if the other cars on the list are hamstrung by them or not, but I would take that into account whatever you buy.

Topender · « **Reply #4 on:** October 21, 2015, 11:56:43 PM »

Quote from: maximage on October 21, 2015, 11:21:07 PM

Understandable angle, but as mentioned that "10 year old tech" still has more power than a Prado. And also no DPF. Not sure if the other cars on the list are hamstrung by them or not, but I would take that into account whatever you buy.

DPF's are nothing to be scared of. My X-trail has one and as long as you service correctly and drive it as it should be DPF's are fine. I wouldn't go out of my way to choose a vehicle with one but they are a fact of life now as most new cars have them and like I said I've lived with one for the last 6 years so happy to go either way. Power isn't everything either.

Dave

noel_w · « **Reply #5 on:** October 22, 2015, 12:09:26 AM »

I would be looking at a Y62 Patrol. Some bargains to be had out there.

Bill · « **Reply #6 on:** October 22, 2015, 05:45:18 AM »

Come Febuary I will be in the same boat as you.
At this point it is between the Prado and Challanger for me.
I have driven both with and without my camper trailer in tow.
I have also priced both with the specs I will be wanting.
So far the Challanger is ahead for me.
Bill

oldmate · « **Reply #7 on:** October 22, 2015, 05:48:10 AM »

Quote from: noel_w on October 22, 2015, 12:09:26 AM

I would be looking at a Y62 Patrol. Some bargains to be had out there.

X2

UIZ733 · « **Reply #8 on:** October 22, 2015, 06:10:54 AM »

New SsangYong Rexton. Will do the job easily. Very comfortable, excellent fuel economy and probably the only 4WD that is appropriately priced in Australia.

D4D · « **Reply #9 on:** October 22, 2015, 06:28:14 AM »

Previous model petrol auto Prado would be my pick

scblack · « **Reply #10 on:** October 22, 2015, 07:38:20 AM »

Topender, why not consider a dual cab ute?

As you know, I just bought a Forester diesel, but if I had my time back I would probably be driving a VW Amarok. If you go for a Highline they are luxurious enough, drive close enough to a large wagon, fuel use is not a massive increase on our size car and even though it has no low range off road use is very capable.

For camping I now see them as near perfect: tow well, good offroad, but prime in my mind is you can just load up the tray with camping gear having loads more space than a wagon and just take off. Much more convenient than a wagon I think.

My 2c.

gronk · « **Reply #11 on:** October 22, 2015, 08:05:47 AM »

I would toss up between a Everest or a Foretuner !

rotare · « **Reply #12 on:** October 22, 2015, 08:15:48 AM »

Each to their own I guess, but picking a brand new untested model of anything reminds me of the old saying 'the leading edge is sometimes the bleeding edge'.....

I guess someone has to be the guinea pig for the rest of us

Darcy7 · « **Reply #13 on:** October 22, 2015, 08:26:17 AM »

I'd look at the Holden Colorado wagon or the Isuzu MUX.

I test drove the Colorado and thought it was a pretty good mid size 4wd.

Isuzumu · « **Reply #14 on:** October 22, 2015, 08:36:34 AM »

I think you have probably missed the vehicle that is getting great reviews for reliability, great off road and price, and with $70K to spend you will have a lot for extras. So a Isuzu MUX LST @ below $50K you will not go wrong. We have now done 95K in our D.Max and not one problem, the GRR twice plus heaps of towing.
An article I was reading about all the twin cabs (new ones) this is for 0-100 KPH Ford Ranger 11.1, Navara 11.3 D.Max and Colorado 11.8 Amarok 12.2 Triton BT 50 12.4 and the Hilux, new one a distant last at 13.5. So do not under estimate the MUX with it low 380 NM.

scarpsD40 · « **Reply #15 on:** October 22, 2015, 08:43:10 AM »

Quote from: scblack on October 22, 2015, 07:38:20 AM

Topender, why not consider a dual cab ute?

As you know, I just bought a Forester diesel, but if I had my time back I would probably be driving a VW Amarok. If you go for a Highline they are luxurious enough, drive close enough to a large wagon, fuel use is not a massive increase on our size car and even though it has no low range off road use is very capable.

For camping I now see them as near perfect: tow well, good offroad, but prime in my mind is you can just load up the tray with camping gear having loads more space than a wagon and just take off. Much more convenient than a wagon I think.

My 2c.

agree, I'm also reading great things about the Mazda BT50's. Apparently a great tow vehicle with the bigger pot.

Julian Kaye · « **Reply #16 on:** October 22, 2015, 08:47:36 AM »

Go with the Prado. With a few mods and the standard 150 litre tank it is a weapon, and you will plenty of change from $70k

Bird · « **Reply #17 on:** October 22, 2015, 08:53:12 AM »

Quote from: Topender

I'm after new tech. not ten year old tech.

Dave

why?

scblack · « **Reply #18 on:** October 22, 2015, 09:18:08 AM »

Quote from: scarpsD40 on October 22, 2015, 08:43:10 AM

agree, I'm also reading great things about the Mazda BT50's. Apparently a great tow vehicle with the bigger pot.

Yep, my brother in law has a new BT-50 he picked up a month ago and he's very happy with it.

Bird · « **Reply #19 on:** October 22, 2015, 09:26:46 AM »

Was told the new engine in the new Prado is the old 2.8 same as Hilux - anyone know yes or no?

KingBilly · « **Reply #20 on:** October 22, 2015, 09:29:39 AM »

Well it's a 2.8 but know nothing of its history. Toyota do like to save money though

. Took them 10 years to update the Hilux.

KB

Isuzumu · « **Reply #21 on:** October 22, 2015, 09:39:07 AM »

Quote from: Bird on October 22, 2015, 09:26:46 AM

Was told the new engine in the new Prado is the old 2.8 same as Hilux - anyone know yes or no?

Probably a little different Bird like now Euro 5 instead of Euro 0

scarpsD40 · « **Reply #22 on:** October 22, 2015, 10:30:54 AM »

Quote from: Isuzumu on October 22, 2015, 09:39:07 AM

Probably a little different Bird like now Euro 5 instead of Euro 0

so not a current VW engine then;D

tk421 · « **Reply #23 on:** October 22, 2015, 01:02:10 PM »

Quote from: Bird on October 22, 2015, 09:26:46 AM

Was told the new engine in the new Prado is the old 2.8 same as Hilux - anyone know yes or no?

Brand New engine designated 1GD-FTV not the old 1KD in the Hilux. Euro 5 with DPF

http://www.toyota.com.au/news/high-torque-diesel-engine-to-power-toyota-prado

callmejoe · « **Reply #24 on:** October 22, 2015, 01:09:05 PM »

X3.

Go the petrol y62. Ti.(2015 build) has better options then the 2012 build. Drive away under $70,000....

you wont regret it.

Joe

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