Do you consider this sexist?

[aussie9]

I think what's worse than a direct complaint, is those who are "offended on behalf of someone else".
A woman and I were having a joke around session at work (we were an item at one time) when the cleaner overheard us and reported me to the boss as she felt my friend should have been offended.
I was investigated and when my friend found out, she told the cleaner to "mind your own business" and then told the boss there was no offence taken by her he felt the cleaner was "spying on us"
We all attended a session, including the cleaner and the cleaner ended up getting a written warning for making unjustified complaints against me


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[michael h]

The boss may well need deep pockets, as he is the one who put it on her desk after she left work, and as soon as he came in the next morning, asked her if she saw it, and pointed out that it was left is as a joke.
It shouldn't matter, but is is a Builders office, and this female employee has been heard to swear at suppliers at the same time as trying to come off as the quiet, shy and typical "butter wouldn't melt" in my mouth type. She has had two husbands with a kid to each. Separated from the second husband and whilst trying to get reconciled with him had 2 affairs. She is a Cougar, and seeing a psychologist and a psychiatrist.
While in the office made a fraudulent motor vehicle insurance claim, and once even stole my cookie from the fridge (unforgivable). She is permanent part time and collecting more Centrelink than is legal, and would appear to be trying for a big payout.
Yep, life was so much better when people had a sense of humour.
I see where the meme could come over as offensive, unfunny, and even distasteful, but I must be too old, as I cannot see any harassment involved.

Total Bitch she should be sacked-  what sort of cookie was it?

[Steffo1]

I have worked with some very attractive women over the years & not once have I been sexually harassed by any of them so I must be O.K. with my political correctness
Steve

[GeoffA]

........ She is a Cougar, and seeing a psychologist and a psychiatrist........

WARNING!!!...WARNING!!!...

[Jeepers Creepers]

I have worked with some very attractive women over the years & not once have I been sexually harassed by any of them so I must be O.K. with my political correctness
Steve

The fact ya got a head that ugly that it would scare a hungry Rottweiler out of a butcher shop helps too I think mate. 

[jw2170]

got a mate that was working for a city council
he was walking past a female employee's desk and she had some male porn on at the time
he put in a complaint and was told to suck it up or leave

Adam

...and the old double standard does not exist....        

I believe the PC pendulum has to start swinging back to neutral....

[McGirr]

A funny story many years ago working at Norman Ross. A new male employee had started and let's just say he had an eye for the same sex, we will call him Percy. That did not worry us until he started trying to chat up another male staff member, we will call him Peter.  Percy would always seem to make eye contact or watch Peter while working. We thought it was all a joke when Peter was telling us until one day Percy walked up to the registers and started sweet talking Peter and Peter told us that Percy had a "gun in his pocket" when he was being chatted up.

After that all us warehouse workers refused to walk into the warehouse unless we had another staff member accompany us when Percy was in there. Any way he was sacked for sexual harassment after Peter made a complaint and this was in the early 1980's.

See it works both ways 


Mark

[Marschy]

Test yourself by putting your daughter or wife in the same position. This would have been considered sexual harassment 30 years ago. If the person who put it on the desk did not think there would be repercussions, then it gives an indication that he thinks he is above reproach. It sounds as though he may have a lesson coming his way.

[Robbo]

I love u...

Awe Gee, Thanks Bruce......

[Robbo]

Oh mate, it was an ugly thing huh, pretty much the ugliest woman ever to walk the earth. We inherited her when we bought a Real Estate office many years ago.

I heard a few years later, she grew some facial whiskers and got a job as a walrus at SeaWorld.
She already had the smell and the sound correct prior to the whiskers too.

HaHaHa, That's Gold Jeepers..

[Bird]

WARNING!!!...WARNING!!!...

X willions

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[slydar]

See it works both ways

only when the 'perpetrator' is male

but I do agree with jw, the pendulum is starting to swing back, such a shame it isn't the false accusers who are getting their just deserves - too late for all the innocent men whose lives have been ruined by false allegations of rape, misconduct AND DOMESTIC VIOLENCE

[champin]

I personally don't think this is harrassment because of the context it was delivered in. So, I put it to my partner. She also thinks the same. In her words, " oh harden the f up". And I think thats the crux of the whole thing. It's all about the context. Anything can be misconscrewed or taken out of context. The pollies have this down pat. ( spin docters ). According to our HR people, we can be dragged over the coals for having an inproper thought. If it is construed that way. Well, heck! 90% of my male friends would be bum up inthe boob with big Buba right now if that was the case.
  Please don'tget offended by my coments. It is not my intention. Just my opinion. And as we all know...opinions are like R soles, everyone has one and they all stink.

[stabicraft]

Political correctness has gone beyond the bounds of common sense and decency.
Everybody everywhere takes offence at everything, you just have to try hard enough to be offended.
That is unless you are a white, heterosexual, catholic, Anglo Saxon, male working for a living, then its open season.

Booing, calling people mussies, abbos, wogs, etc etc etc.

Sticks and stones, people sticks and stones.

But there is no money in not taking offence.
And its all about what you can squeeze out of the system..............isnt it?

[KingBilly]

https://www.humanrights.gov.au/our-work/sex-discrimination/guides/sexual-harassment

Sexual harassment is any unwanted or unwelcome sexual behaviour, which makes a person feel offended, humiliated or intimidated.

Sexual harassment is not interaction, flirtation or friendship which is mutual or consensual.

Sexual harassment is a type of sex discrimination.

The Sex Discrimination Act 1984 (Cth) makes sexual harassment unlawful in some circumstances.

Despite being outlawed for over 25 years, sexual harassment remains a problem in Australia.

Sexual harassment disproportionately affects women with 1 in 5 experiencing sexual harassment in the workplace at some time. However, 1 in 20 men also report experiencing sexual harassment in the workplace.

[UIZ733]

Test yourself by putting your daughter or wife in the same position. This would have been considered sexual harassment 30 years ago. If the person who put it on the desk did not think there would be repercussions, then it gives an indication that he thinks he is above reproach. It sounds as though he may have a lesson coming his way.

So true. There are workplace laws and they are there for good reasons. To keep your job and reputation, it is best, proper and a legal requirement to obey them. If you want  a skirmish, choose the biggest, most ugly, and physically capable bloke on staff and then 'go for it'.

[champin]

Is it just me? Or does anyone else think Australia is leading the world in litigation?

[gclan]

I guess it depends on what the work environment is like. I was a survey drafter and worked in basically all male workplaces, and I personally find the meme hilarious. The majority of women I have worked with however had no sense of humour and probably would have found it offensive.

Surely if something offends you, you do the adult thing and let the person involved know that you'd prefer they didn't do things of this nature again, before going straight for the harassment claim.

Screaming sexual harassment over nothing drives me mad!

Have a laugh people


Karen

[champin]

I guess it depends on what the work environment is like. I was a survey drafter and worked in basically all male workplaces, and I personally find the meme hilarious. The majority of women I have worked with however had no sense of humour and probably would have found it offensive.

Surely if something offends you, you do the adult thing and let the person involved know that you'd prefer they didn't do things of this nature again, before going straight for the harassment claim.

Screaming sexual harassment over nothing drives me mad!

Have a laugh people


Karen

X one brazilion 

[discoteddy]

I guess it depends on what the work environment is like. I was a survey drafter and worked in basically all male workplaces, and I personally find the meme hilarious. The majority of women I have worked with however had no sense of humour and probably would have found it offensive.

Surely if something offends you, you do the adult thing and let the person involved know that you'd prefer they didn't do things of this nature again, before going straight for the harassment claim.

Screaming sexual harassment over nothing drives me mad!

Have a laugh people


Well said Karen!


Cheers,


Disco teddy.


Karen

[Swannie]

Generally if you need to ask the question it usually is

Swannie

[tk421]

The key is in the definition. 'Unwanted'. Many here are telling stories about groups that had particular behaviour and no one cared. Which is fine, I've worked in those environments, but it's the unwanted part that needs to be considered and it is a fine line that can be easily crossed. Personally I think there has to be an element of consistency. Is one rude joke,maimed at me, harassment? Probably not. Are consistent sexual jokes aimed at me harassment?  yes.

 

[alnjan]

Having worked in a very EEO orientated organisation you very quickly learn that some people are more equal than others and took every advantage of that fact.  As a Anglo straight male I could never be a Victim, but readily accused. 

[GeoffA]

I don't believe it's sexual harrassment, or even sexist, but it is definitely crass......and funny.

[GeoffA]

Some of these definitions have a touch of Monty Python about them.

"....I simply said that piece of halibut was good enough for Jehovah...."

"BLASPHEMER!!!...."