Gumtree Swag Scam

[Benduro]

Can you get your bank to reverse the payment ?

Will speak to the bank tomorrow but I think we were going to be up for fees/charges close to the amount originally transferred?

[#jonesy]

I'd rather give the money to the bank than the scammer

[Bird]

Can you get your bank to reverse the payment ?

so whats to stop anyone buying Shit, direct deposit, get the item, then ask bank for money back

[letsgoplaces]

Yep x 2 ive done this before

Which bank? I was of the belief that banks will not reverse a direct deposit transaction.


Cheers

[Jeepers Creepers]

Get the 200 of us happy to call him at any hour, day or night and leave a message with him for someone called Charles.

Then we'll get Bird to ring and say...         "Its Charles here, any messages for me."

[oldmate]

Which bank? I was of the belief that banks will not reverse a direct deposit transaction.


Cheers

Heritage. It was a CC transaction online

[Skinnee]

Actually, that is not safe for gumtree. Paypal does not offer buyer and seller protection on gumtree. Gumtree is primarily for face-to-face contact and cash hand-over. For that reason, be very, very careful when doing online transactions on gumtree!

When you want to have an item off gumtree through online transaction, ask the seller to post it on ebay. I just did something similar. The buyer was happy to post it on ebay and I immediately bought the item when it was available. This is the safest way for both buyer and seller as both have (some kind of) protection.

Where does it say in PayPal gumtree is exempt?

[Skinnee]

Found it - they have removed gumtree from there policy

https://www.paypal.com/au/webapps/mpp/ua/useragreement-full?locale.x=en_AU#Schedule_1_PayPal_Seller_and_Buyer_Protection_Policies


Your purchase is not for:
Vehicles (including cars, motorcycles, caravans, boats and planes);
Real estate;
Custom made items considered to be “significantly not as described”;
Industrial machinery used in manufacturing;
Items prohibited under our Acceptable Use Policy;
eBay Items that breach eBay's "Prohibited and Restricted Items and Services" policy;
Items you collect in person or arrange to be collected on your behalf; or
Quasi-cash items such as gift cards, pre-paid cards or deal vouchers;
Items listed on Gumtree.

[Bird]

Heritage. It was a CC transaction online

CC is different to direct deposit

[Beachman]

Get the 200 of us happy to call him at any hour, day or night and leave a message with him for someone called Charles.

Then we'll get Bird to ring and say...         "Its Charles her, any messages for me."

That is gold 

[Bird]

Get the 200 of us happy to call him at any hour, day or night and leave a message with him for someone called Charles.

Then we'll get Bird to ring and say...         "Its Charles her, any messages for me."

I'm in...

[oldmate]

CC is different to direct deposit

See learn something everyday

[WilSurf]

Wow, it didn't take long for Claire to react on my advertisement on gumtree yesterday.
Only 3 hours or so after putting our Ford Fiesta up for sale I got a text from her.
She asked how much the asking price was. A bit odd I thought as it was clearly stated in the ad.
Anyway I replied by email at her request.
Not much later:

"Thanks for the response,I would have loved to call you directly but due to the nature i work with the The Australian  Army Corps. we do not have access to phone at the moment,which is why I contacted you with internet messaging facility.

I am buying this for my first son who just graduated on top of his class at Aviation University  ,I want it to be the perfect graduation gift for him and am making it a surprise package ,Does it have any history I should be aware of? and why are you selling if you don't mind my asking. I don't mind adding an extra $300.00 for you just to take down the posting..I am already in talks with freighters that will handle the pickup and delivery .I will really appreciate if you can email more info

Due to the nature of my work i am a very busy woman working all day, am a (Operating officer) am presently on-board, i don't have access to my bank account online as am not with my credit card details here but i have my ANZ bank account link up with my PayPal account so I will be paying you through Account to your nominated bank account or better still is if you have a PayPal account ,please get back to me with your BSB and account details or PayPal account so i can proceed with the payment and contact the courier agent who will come to pick it up and deliver it in NT for my son .Await your reply
"

A couple of odd things.
My ad states why I am selling.
She is in the Army Corps and she is on-board. Does the Army has ships? I thought that was the Navy?

Mmmm, what shall I do? 
She is in NT.

[WilSurf]

I replied saying that I don't have a Paypal account and that payment on pick up is preferred.
Within 30 minutes she replied:

"Thank you for all the details that you sent me i appreciate your honesty with the detailed explanation with regards to your words on the item status.,Just to let you know that am keen and interested in buying the Item. moreover i have a private courier agent that will be coming down for the pick up as soon as you receive your fund and they will also handle all the sign necessary document on my behalf..Am happy to inform you that the fund is ready and available in my PayPal account so am ready to transfer the fund into your nominated bank account as soon as you get back to me with your Account Name Account number and your Bsb number . Waiting to read from you ASAP.i will like you to disregard any kind of call or message concerning this item as I am confirming to you with this email that I am purchasing this item and its funds are ready to be transferred to your account"

[tk421]

Wow, it didn't take long for Claire to react on my advertisement on gumtree yesterday.
Only 3 hours or so after putting our Ford Fiesta up for sale I got a text from her.
She asked how much the asking price was. A bit odd I thought as it was clearly stated in the ad.
Anyway I replied by email at her request.
Not much later:

"Thanks for the response,I would have loved to call you directly but due to the nature i work with the The Australian  Army Corps. we do not have access to phone at the moment,which is why I contacted you with internet messaging facility.

I am buying this for my first son who just graduated on top of his class at Aviation University  ,I want it to be the perfect graduation gift for him and am making it a surprise package ,Does it have any history I should be aware of? and why are you selling if you don't mind my asking. I don't mind adding an extra $300.00 for you just to take down the posting..I am already in talks with freighters that will handle the pickup and delivery .I will really appreciate if you can email more info

Due to the nature of my work i am a very busy woman working all day, am a (Operating officer) am presently on-board, i don't have access to my bank account online as am not with my credit card details here but i have my ANZ bank account link up with my PayPal account so I will be paying you through Account to your nominated bank account or better still is if you have a PayPal account ,please get back to me with your BSB and account details or PayPal account so i can proceed with the payment and contact the courier agent who will come to pick it up and deliver it in NT for my son .Await your reply
"

A couple of odd things.
My ad states why I am selling.
She is in the Army Corps and she is on-board. Does the Army has ships? I thought that was the Navy?

Mmmm, what shall I do? 
She is in NT.

Sounds legit....

Plenty of ideas on here on how to keep it up...
http://www.419eater.com/

[Cruiser 105Tvan]

I would have thought that any Service person would have a better grasp of the English Language.
They need to read write and understand the English Language to eliminate mistakes and confusion when accepting instructions of any kind.
It seems bogus to me, so string 'em along. 
In a weeks time message them that you have someone on your front doorstep with cash in hand, ask them if they are still interested.
Keep all the contact info and copies of the messages as well as the source code for the messages.
Source code will show the IP address the messages come from. 
I hope Bruce (Bird) will confirm here, when I say "No source code for their message and you won't find them."
Forward to the Federal Coppers, Gumtree and anyone else you feel might need to know. 
Only get rid of them by Black listing these oxygen thieves.


Besides, how do you know it's a "She" or whether it's white, Brown, or Brindle.
You only have "The message" to say so.

[Hoyks]

I would have thought that any Service person would have a better grasp of the English Language.

And they would know that the Army is made up of Corps(transport, armored, infantry etc.), and there is no such thing as The Army Corps per se.

Which is also why we don't have the Royal Australian Army, unlike the RAN and RAAF. The individual regiments and Corps have the Royal title in their name, so the Army being made from these sub units misses out on the title.

Now there is your useless fact for the day

[Cruiser 105Tvan]

  Hoyks 

[JohnT]

Im an Adelaide swagger. If this all turns out to be a miss understanding Ill gladly collect it for you and get it on its way to you. (unless the person lives 10mins from my house :p)

[tk421]

It seems bogus to me, so string 'em along. 

It's a well known scam.

http://www.scamnet.wa.gov.au/scamnet/Scam_Types-Buying_selling_and_online_sales_scams-Online_car_sales_scam_buyer.htm

[Darcy7]

if you have the guy's telephone number, you can create all sorts of havoc for him.

a mate of mine had a disagreement with a scumbag.  He knew his home address and phone number.  He ordered literally dozens of home delivered pizzas to the guys house.  When he claimed he didn't place the order, the delivey guy had his name, phone number and address.  Eventually no one would accept home delivery orders from him.  Gold...!

[loanrangie]

Was there a conclusion to this scam, good outcome or none at all ?

[WilSurf]

I replied thanking her for confirmation of buying.
Payment on delivery by her private courier agent.

No reply yet.
And it has been 1 hour......
Did she pull out of the sale???

[hainess]

I've had a boat and a car for sale on ebay and gumtree since late april.
Not a sign of any scammers untill I stumped up some money and put them on carsales and boatsales.
That was in mid may and the 8 emaillers all seemed to work for energy aust in the middle of NT.

Sold them both this week for cash.

Rod
.

[loanrangie]

I meant from the original poster.  Wilsurf yours is a definite scam and i wouldnt even waste my time with any correspondence .