coleman dual fuel stoves -advice sought

[jetcrew]

Ok ..

I have been giving the stove thing a think over after the recall issues on the lunch box cookers and although I will continue to use mine I will NOT use it on the boat, I take my son away soon on a boat trip where we will sleep on the boat for 7 nights and do all our cooking on the boat in confined spaces.

So I have promised myself that although I am happy to bear the risk of my cooker for just me I cant expose him to that risk as he has no choice...

So are these any good

 http://www.colemanaustralia.com.au/product/dual-fuel-sportster-ii-stove/1217545?contextCategory=0601#.VTYb8SGqpBc

I always have unleaded on the boat so fuel is no issue..but do they smell at all or are there any drawbacks

Jet

[plusnq]

I use two of these and really like them. They run quite hot.

Amazon is always good to look for reviews;

http://www.amazon.com/Coleman-Sportster-Dual-1-Burner-Stove/product-reviews/B00CHHSSWQ/ref=dp_db_cm_cr_acr_txt?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1

I have never used them in confined spaces though.

Cheers

Shane

[UIZ733]

Two word review from me!
Top notch.

[jetcrew]

thanks for the link 

Also it seems running the coleman fuel is better as it burns cleaner and use the ULP in emergency only .

I don't want to carry a gas bottle on the boat for obv reasons and the only other option it seems is a normal 2 burner stove with the screw on canisters .

jet

[Heavyweight]

I used one for a few months while I was travelling Aust....They are a great unit.

I never never used one in an enclosed space, but it burns the fuel efficiently so there should not be any real noticeable fumes...
I tried both ULP and the Coleman fuel and shellite, the Coleman fuel did seem to work slightly better ( a little cleaner burn) but not at the cost of convenience...If i ever needed fuel I would siphon it out of the bike...

I always ran Premium ULP in the bike, only in the last few days I read somewhere on another  site, that someone mentioned that running regular unleaded was better than premium, also read somewhere that some people were adding a small amount of "injector cleaner to the stoves to keep the generator clean...

They take a little bit of getting used to, for super hot they are easy, the simmering take a little bit of fiddling ( at least until you are familiar with your stove)..

All that said, I will be taking mine in the Kavango (which has it's own stove), but I will also be taking one of the "lunch box cookers", sometimes convenience (and two cooking surfaces) work better than one.

[idlegossip]

 Jetcrew,

These also run on shelite very clean. I have had the large 2 burner one for the last 12 odd years and loved it. Shelite is also a lot easier to find in most hardware stores than the Coleman fuel is in camping stores.

The only thing to watch from memory with the larger unit and the lantern is when you first light them they flair up a little till the generator heats up.

[Barry G]

These stoves are great, although I prefer my old 'self-pressurising' Optimus, slightly smaller and folds into its own box.

When snowed / rained-in in my walking / cycling tent I was always happy to lie in my sleeping bag cooking up soup, or boiling a brew, on the Optimus in the door way of the tent, under the fly.
I ALWAYS made sure the relief valve on the cap of the fuel tank (which is designed to heat up when cooking to pressurise in order to feed fuel to the burner) was pointing out of the tent opening.

These days, when I need a quick and convenient stove my preference is my Trangia metho stove.
can't beat it for flexibility.

[jetcrew]

Should be clear about when i said confined space ..i meant confined as in cant run away or be away from stove . So my son will be in close proximity to the stove.

i plan on making up timber cooking board that will sit on the back of the boat and cook out the back away from the canopy and front covers .

Cant seem to find the carry cases online ..does anyone know if they come with the case or not.

The shelite sounds great 

Jet

[plusnq]

Jet crew,

I fit mine inside a billy. Tea towel wrapped around to reduce noise.

Works a treat.

Cheers

Shane

[Bird]

So how do they go in windy conditions as there is more life in Speewa's liver than there is wind protection on these...

[plusnq]

I carry a folding metal windbreak if needed. I prefer the singles to the double as a large pot can take up most of the space on a double. Different strokes for different folks, I guess.
From memory the single burner units have a higher output than the dual burner units.

[jetcrew]

So science is not my strong suit but I gather by the fact you pressurise the unit manually that the fuel is not as explosive as a butane canister.

If it all went to poo you would get a fuel fire but not an explosion ?

Jet

[D4D]

So science is not my strong suit but I gather by the fact you pressurise the unit manually that the fuel is not as explosive as a butane canister.

If it all went to poo you would get a fuel fire but not an explosion ?

That is also my understanding

[Aussie Iron]

Ok ..

I have been giving the stove thing a think over after the recall issues on the lunch box cookers and although I will continue to use mine I will NOT use it on the boat, I take my son away soon on a boat trip where we will sleep on the boat for 7 nights and do all our cooking on the boat in confined spaces.

So I have promised myself that although I am happy to bear the risk of my cooker for just me I cant expose him to that risk as he has no choice...

So are these any good

 http://www.colemanaustralia.com.au/product/dual-fuel-sportster-ii-stove/1217545?contextCategory=0601#.VTYb8SGqpBc

I always have unleaded on the boat so fuel is no issue..but do they smell at all or are there any drawbacks

Jet

That's all I've used for years and wouldn't go back. We run unleaded and wouldn't run it in a cabin that didn't have very good ventilation. Yes they do smell a little (mainly on start up )but used in the open are not bad at all. No way will I be going back to gas (butane/ propane). I recently bought one of these that is suppose to run on diesel, haven't had a chance to try it yet put hope to on our trip to the Cape in a couple of months time.

Dan.

[yogi]

Did you end up getting one ? I just carry mine in the original box as they are made of reasonable cardboard. Make sure you get a spare generator if your using unleaded (good to have a spare anyway) Work a treat and are reasonable in size.

yogi

[tk421]

So science is not my strong suit but I gather by the fact you pressurise the unit manually that the fuel is not as explosive as a butane canister.

If it all went to poo you would get a fuel fire but not an explosion ?

Jet

I'm sure you know this from the boat but petrol vapour and open flame/spark = big kaboom. Petrol vapour ignited within a confined canister = even bigger kaboom.  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3f4lPzxSm5A

[jetcrew]

I'm sure you know this from the boat but petrol vapour and open flame/spark = big kaboom. Petrol vapour ignited within a confined canister = even bigger kaboom.  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3f4lPzxSm5A

FXXX mate what do think i will be trying to cook 

i think that a small fuel stove compared to that is a bit different.  I use the butane stove now so I still have naked fuel vapour to a degree just like most boats so avoiding any naked flame is a bit hard on any vessel.

I was just looking for a diff option to the canisters . i promise not to pour 20ltrs on my stove before lighting it 

Jet

[latestarter]

Hi,

I actually have the same burner, plus the dual burner powerhouse. I prefer the single as it doesn't seem to flare as much on startup. I also got mine for the same reason ...cooking on a boat. Having played around with these and a screw on canister model from Coleman , I actually feel safer with the canister.

The dual burner flare on start bothered me in the boat and the single I think needs a bigger frame around it to support the cooking utensil being used .... Particularly on a boat.

That said, I like the burner that much, that is what I intend on dong.....then it will be my choice for the boat.

The only down side is the tank is a little smal .... Especially if you are talking 7 days ... But a small price to pay for a great burner IMHO

[tk421]

Lol.
You've actually got me thinking of one before a probable trip to the Simpson next year. Saw a lunchbox butane stove canister go up over June long weekend. Lucky Old mate next door got there and put it out quickly. They'd not locked it in and still managed to light it somehow.


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[graham]

Jet I've had both  and to use on a boat I myself would use the Coleman jigger , if the wind could blow the flame out , I really don't think you would be fishing ,more like hanging on for grim death
I've never noticed any fumes with mine ,it's a very nice flame , I also have the Coleman dual fuel stove that is the same ,no fumes ,and both have been used in enclosed spaces
I will admit though I haven't used unleaded fuel in either as I got a 20litre drum of shellite with my stove but I reckon they are fairly efficient at burning fuel
Again if I were to use either in my boat ,same as you with my kids on board ,I would use the Coleman hands down .intial costs are bit more , but as you have stated you have the fuel onboard ,win/win i think
I do like the billy  idea ,serve two purposes, nice

[abcxyz]

We used one for years camping and had no problems with it at all. Only recently the fuel canister appears to have developed a leak (15 years old and never really properly maintained).

Have replaced it with a Coleman gas cooker with griddle, but would recommend the dual fuel model to anyone.