Prado or Pajero?

[dazzler]

Something I forgot. If you are thinking earlier Prados the petrol is a pretty good choice against the old diesel. They return around the 13-14 lphk so not much more than the TD but put out big kW.  Take a petrol grande for a run and you will be amazed at the quality and comfort. If I had my time over I would have grabbed the petrol.




I'm not going to lie to you Marge.

[evolution]

Something I forgot. If you are thinking earlier Prados the petrol is a pretty good choice against the old diesel. They return around the 13-14 lphk so not much more than the TD but put out big kW.  Take a petrol grande for a run and you will be amazed at the quality and comfort. If I had my time over I would have grabbed the petrol.




I'm not going to lie to you Marge.

Thanks mate, That could open up a possibility.

everything you'd written says you want the Prado... sounds like your minds made up! Prado with Alpine ina w900e head unit

I really WANT a prado, however the diesels just seem to much coin for something that realistically is going to be a country version of a toorak tractor.

And that is why tojo's are so much more $$$$$$

The reality is its a personal choice to spend the extra to get it. Mitsubishi just add more bling to make it look better, Toyota product develop.

Both are good and you won't go wrong with either. Neither really makes any more sense than the other.   Have fun now. 


I'm not going to lie to you Marge.

I reckon you're right mate, however the pajero isn't as bad as what I was expecting.

I think you just answered your own question.....

It's looking that way. However I really don't want to spend 30k on a car this year as it will completely ruin any chance of getting a new ranger or a used 200 next year to replace the navara.....

I guess at this point if there really aren't anything major wrong with them then I will probably just keep looking and work out a set budget.
(probably should sell the stopgap now then lol)
That way if the right car pops up I can just grab it.
I think I might just go for the newest, lowest km, and well maintained version of whatever comes up at the time.
I must say although the Prado's have always been a good rig, the newer pajero's are a huge leap forward to even the 05 models as far as drive ability goes.

Cheers
Evo

[dazzler]

Pajeros are good. Either will make you


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[Wrex]

As a former NS auto Diesel Pajero owner you could not give me another one for free.

The NS model in Diesel and only the Autos had the dreaded DPF issue. I still have a headache from mine and I traded it in 12months ago.

The Pajero forum is full of the "not fit for purpose DPF" issues. The carboning up of the manifold is also a big issue with the Mitsi diesels.

Read the awesome Pajero forum and arm yourself with as much info as you can.

If going for the petrol go for your life, I traded to a petrol FJ Cruiser and haven't looked back.

[dazzler]

To be fair they all carbon up. Prados, Pajeros, Patrols.  Gotta blank em off from new or pull the manifolds and clean then blank em off.

Triton are now the worst around. 

[tourin n fishin]

I can't complain about my 03 Prado. I went for the petrol as I wanted the extra power and refinement. It only uses a smidge more juice than the diesel and even with the CT on the back (under 750kg) it still uses about 17 L/100km. The 4 speed auto isn't an issue with the petrol as it has plenty of grunt but I would not like it with the diesel much IMHO.

[Landyline]

I have a 150 Prado at work.  Loved it. When it came time for us to update our own car a new Prado was the obvious choice.
However after test driving a new pajero it really did my head in. The Pajero was just so much nicer to be in and drive.
So after much deliberation and reading about each ones issues we bought the Pajero.  It has been a fantastic tourer over the last 14 months.
I still like the Prado and I think the interior is a little better put together (noticeable when you pull each one apart) but after owning the Pajero I don't enjoy driving the Prado anywhere near as much as I used too.
On the upside we are replacing our Prado at work with a Pajero this month
The main things I'll miss in the Prado are the numerous drink bottle holders (not cup holders) and the fuel tank size.

Really if you can get over the fact it isn't a Toyota the Pajero wins easily and given you are comparing to a 120 Prado years older than the Pajero you're considering then it's a no brainer.

[lino6]

How about a 3rd option?

http://www.chevrolet.com/suburban-suv.html

3700kg towing. Would be handy!

[evolution]

I have a 150 Prado at work.  Loved it. When it came time for us to update our own car a new Prado was the obvious choice.
However after test driving a new pajero it really did my head in. The Pajero was just so much nicer to be in and drive.
So after much deliberation and reading about each ones issues we bought the Pajero.  It has been a fantastic tourer over the last 14 months.
I still like the Prado and I think the interior is a little better put together (noticeable when you pull each one apart) but after owning the Pajero I don't enjoy driving the Prado anywhere near as much as I used too.
On the upside we are replacing our Prado at work with a Pajero this month
The main things I'll miss in the Prado are the numerous drink bottle holders (not cup holders) and the fuel tank size.

Really if you can get over the fact it isn't a Toyota the Pajero wins easily and given you are comparing to a 120 Prado years older than the Pajero you're considering then it's a no brainer.

Pretty much where my logical side is at the moment. I have to keep telling myself its for the other half, not me.
So therefor it doesn't matter what it is lol

How about a 3rd option?

http://www.chevrolet.com/suburban-suv.html

3700kg towing. Would be handy!

Thought about that, however I was thinking more like one of these...
http://www.ford.com/suvs/expedition/trim/platinumextendedlength/
just under 4200kg towing... With built in brake controller.... 
BUT the wallet says no 

Cheers
Evo

[treads]

Both nice rigs; but for the same $$$ I couldn't go past a Pajero. The engine in the Mitsubishi is a bit noisier and there's not quite as much shoulder room in the back; however overall you get a lot more car for your money. Also, the first time I saw the salesman fold away the rear seats I was pretty impressed.

PS: Don't buy an ex-police Pajero - actually don't buy an ex-police anything.... 

[SteveandViv]

The only issue I've heard on some paj's is when you lift them, you end up with 180B syndrome on the back tyre camber causing **** wear issues.

Yea but they have camber adjustments on the rear for that.

[chester ver2.0]

Something I forgot. If you are thinking earlier Prados the petrol is a pretty good choice against the old diesel. They return around the 13-14 lphk so not much more than the TD but put out big kW.  Take a petrol grande for a run and you will be amazed at the quality and comfort. If I had my time over I would have grabbed the petrol.




I'm not going to lie to you Marge.

Mate i am of the same thinking even if i went a 150 series i would look at petrol

[Nomad]

I don't see a comparison.
I think you would be much better of with what ever the newer model of either you can get.

I would buy the Pajero if it was a choice between an 04 ish Prado and an 07 to 10 ish Pajero.

And I am biased towards the Prado obviously.

 

[hotboostgt]

Pajero hands down winner 147kw 441 torque . we picked up our  3.2 TD this week low 34k with 75 000 km with 5k extras one owner platinum edition . Dragging the custom line out this weekend. Been driving around shops school pick up 9.6 avg l . I'd much rather a newer car than an older one..

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[heath74]

Contrary to the concerns with the D4D, it's a great engine with some sensible maintenance. I've been very happy with mine for the last 2.5 yrs, 80,000 k, two Simpson crossings, three Qld drives, countless HC trips, towed the jayco 6000k last trip 1500 on dirt. On top of that it gets me in and out of the city traffic each day.

But value for money you won't beat the Paj although I though they were a bit sloppy to drive relative to the prado, so in the end I just stretched the budget.

If your budget is set in stone, so you can get a 200 soon, the I'm sure the Paj will fit the bill. They are also an excellent car.

[ScottT]

Scott T i also had the same model traded with 240,000 on it and still going with chip fitted

I was happy with the engine and very happy with the vehicle as a whole but not the 4 speed auto as i found towing my goldstream at around 1600kg loaded it would hunt between 3rd and 4th at the slightest wiff of a hill or headwind. This was my only gripe with the vehicle.

To compare the chipped prado and the dmax i have now have close to the same power figures (post chip on the prado) but the dmax blows the prado out of the water when towing with the extra cog (5 speed in the dmax)

If you are just punting around or towing a box trailer type camper then go for it

As to the origional question i do not thing the 03 to 05 came out with 5 speed auto it was introduced with the D4D engine change over

Fair enough, but surely you purchase what will suit your needs, I mean if you're pulling close to the max you're going to get issues.

Either way, I still love my 120 series (non D4D) !

[GGV8Cruza]

Just bite the bullet big time and get the 200 you really want, why waste time with another substitute vehicle 

GG