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Re: EBAY Purchase Lost in Transit - Advice Please
« Reply #25 on: September 01, 2014, 05:22:07 PM »
It's not really the sellers fault if TNT have agreed it was lost, pretty sure paypal will cover the cost under there buyer protection cover , I'm fairly sure thats what happened when I went through something similar
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Re: EBAY Purchase Lost in Transit - Advice Please
« Reply #26 on: September 01, 2014, 05:38:29 PM »
Agreed, but I cant take any action against TNT as I never entered a contract with TNT, they did . The  seller needs to claim against TNT, it just seems the easy option is to not to at this stage. However they will refund me the $20 postage  >:D lol
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Re: EBAY Purchase Lost in Transit - Advice Please
« Reply #27 on: September 02, 2014, 12:40:12 PM »
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You entered into a contract with the seller to supply you with goods delivered to your address, and paid the seller.

Although I agree with this in principle, the assumption here is that the contract agreement includes guaranteed delivery to the purchasers door.  I doubt that is stated anywhere and it becomes a problem because it is "assumed", and most likely not clear in the terms.   The implied contract therefore is simply the sale an item and not the guarantee of any type of delivery service.   

For every purchase I've ever made on ebay there were lots choices under delivery options including paying extra for insurance or tracking.  Just because it wasn't offered directly, doesn't mean it couldn't have been selected or requested to mitigate the risk.

If the liability of an item remains with the seller until the receipt of the item is acknowledged from the purchaser then surely it would make sense that every ebay seller would include insurance or tracking in the item cost, to mitigate their own risk? 

Surely also if the seller proves they have posted the item in good faith and as agreed they are no longer liable?  Otherwise what's stopping people buying items on ebay, then claiming they never received it (when they did), then expecting a  guaranteed refund from the seller?  Sounds like a good scam and more people would be doing it if it was that easy!  Just doesn't seem like a logical or fair process in my opinion.

     
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Re: EBAY Purchase Lost in Transit - Advice Please
« Reply #28 on: September 02, 2014, 01:25:55 PM »
So it's fair in turn I'm out of pocket $300?????
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Re: EBAY Purchase Lost in Transit - Advice Please
« Reply #29 on: September 02, 2014, 01:35:45 PM »
I know this wont help you now, but give Aliexpress a go. They have a no-receive, no-pay policy.

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Re: EBAY Purchase Lost in Transit - Advice Please
« Reply #30 on: September 02, 2014, 01:41:23 PM »
So it's fair in turn I'm out of pocket $300?????

No it's not fair, but IMO neither is expecting the seller to reimburse you the $300 when there is proof they sent the item. 

Unfortunately it's probably an expensive lesson to learn, but posting or having something of value sent in the mail / couriered should always be insured.

I'm not trying to tell you to "suck eggs", it's just the way I see it.  I hope it works out for you in the end.

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Re: EBAY Purchase Lost in Transit - Advice Please
« Reply #31 on: September 02, 2014, 03:14:49 PM »
The seller should approach TNT and get reimbursed for the value of the item then send you another one. It is quite simple and happens all the time. If they are not prepared to do that then go with Paypal.

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Re: EBAY Purchase Lost in Transit - Advice Please
« Reply #32 on: September 02, 2014, 03:58:20 PM »
The issue is under Australian consume law tnt are liable for the loss to the seller. Whilst tnt hide being there terms and conditions if challenged they would have to pay. The issue is the seller isn't prepared to do that. End of day I've already spoken to my bank and they will process a credit card reversal if need be
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Re: EBAY Purchase Lost in Transit - Advice Please
« Reply #34 on: September 02, 2014, 09:10:54 PM »
Here is the answer:

http://www.ebay.com.au/gds/Do-Sellers-Have-To-Refund-If-An-Item-is-Lost-or-Stolen-/10000000015247185/g.html


Thanks for that, just lodged a paypal dispute. The seller emailed me and because he is a sole trader and only bread winner he can't afford to reimburse me or think he should have to but will sell me another one cheaper !!!!!!!! Asshat
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Re: EBAY Purchase Lost in Transit - Advice Please
« Reply #35 on: September 02, 2014, 09:28:22 PM »
I wonder how much luck the seller would have in recouping any of the cost's involved when something goes missing that wasn't originally insured or even has a tracking number , If I had to take a guess I would say sweeet f^
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« Reply #36 on: September 02, 2014, 10:40:30 PM »
I have been on the other side of one of these where thee item I sent went missing. Paypal put my account in the red and sent me an email telling me to transfer funds to my account. So PayPal will refund you the money. They just put old mates account in the red and next time money hits his account they grab it first.
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Re: EBAY Purchase Lost in Transit - Advice Please
« Reply #37 on: September 11, 2014, 09:23:07 PM »
Fat lot of good paypal was . Will ring my bank tomorrow for a credit card reversal

Seller's Name: Ruoyu Ding
Seller's Email: info.australiandirect@gmail.com
Seller's Transaction ID: 9NG905926X711554G

Transaction Date: 11 Aug 2014
Transaction Amount: -$299.00 AUD
Your Transaction ID: 8UK68866YV013092F
Case Number: PP-003-375-763-942

Buyer's Transaction ID: 8UK68866YV013092F



In response to your claim, the seller has provided proof of shipment
indicating that the item was shipped to you. Because the seller was able to
provide proof of shipment, we cannot reverse this transaction or issue a
refund. We encourage you to continue to work directly with the seller to
amicably resolve this matter.
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Re: EBAY Purchase Lost in Transit - Advice Please
« Reply #38 on: September 12, 2014, 05:57:23 AM »
Fair trading has stated I have a case under Australian Consumer Law if it gets that far. Wont share details of seller until I get a resolution

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Well of course you bloody well shouldn't.

THEY didn't lose the bloody thing.

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« Reply #39 on: September 12, 2014, 06:21:51 AM »
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Re: EBAY Purchase Lost in Transit - Advice Please
« Reply #40 on: September 12, 2014, 08:30:34 AM »
I'm confused - it's pretty obvious that TNT lost it and they seem to be taking zero responsibility for it???

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Re: EBAY Purchase Lost in Transit - Advice Please
« Reply #41 on: September 12, 2014, 12:19:34 PM »

:cheers: cheers thanks for that dazzler!!

Your welcome LOL

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Re: EBAY Purchase Lost in Transit - Advice Please
« Reply #42 on: September 12, 2014, 06:09:44 PM »
Your welcome LOL

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