He Bought a Jeep....

[scarps]

Hi Jasman, you're right, and Allan has written a paper for the Australian Mechanics/Engineers journal.  I gave my copy to the proud new owners of my Jeep as a guide, but someone here may have a copy or it might be searchable via Google.
The basic premise is that modern diesels with a DPF filter must have a good long hot run regularly to burn out the carbon build up in the filter.  If it clogs up some serious damage could be done to the engine, turbo etc.  I'm not a mechanic so someone will be able to be more techie than me on this.
If you are a city dweller with a modern Diesel engine, the daily run to school, shops, work etc aren't considered effective or hot enough to burn it away and it's a case of 'Danger Will Robinson' if you own one.
As you said, this is not just a Jeep thing, this applies to a lot of modern Diesel engines.  I have read a thread here on this lately.


It's a Narvara STX V6 TD 3.0L

[MDS69]

Every time that ad for Jeep with the neighbours grass a mile high comes on the TV our response is "Yeah poor bastard is broken down somewhere"!

Funny thing is my wife says the same thing and knows little about the perceived Jeep image.

[Pipeliner]

I truly feel sorry for Jeep owners. They get lied and deceived to and they must be gullible to believe it.

I think we could get a charity to help these poor soles that have been ripped off.

4x4 is more that a dirt road with puddles on it. But then again I wouldn't go that extreme in a jeep.

Bullant, have you ever driven a Jeep?  They obviously must have done something to upset you, the way the vitriol is dripping off your words!
If they're that bad, why has Drive awarded the Grand Cherokee 4wd of the Year three years in a row?

[Bullant4x4]

Bullant, have you ever driven a Jeep?  They obviously must have done something to upset you, the way the vitriol is dripping off your words!
If they're that bad, why has Drive awarded the Grand Cherokee 4wd of the Year three years in a row?

Well if Drive has said it?, I take my words back.

My bother in law had one, cousin has two and know a Jeep accessories dealer.

I think more salt & pepper is needed

[Homer_Jay]

These Jeep drivers are a touchy bunch.

And I thought us Tojo drivers were bad! 

[Bullant4x4]

These Jeep drivers are a touchy bunch.

You would be to!

Breaking down all the time, having to take a real 4x4 when you go off-road  and getting ripped

[Coiled]

Unfortunately Jeep are having more than 1 or 2 terminal duds in the current GC.

I even know of one large new car dealership chain that now refuses the trade of Jeeps after being burnt a few times on them.

[Paul (SA)]

Bullant, have you ever driven a Jeep?  They obviously must have done something to upset you, the way the vitriol is dripping off your words!
If they're that bad, why has Drive awarded the Grand Cherokee 4wd of the Year three years in a row?

Not sure I agree with solely testing vehicles and comparing them when they are brand new as the be all and end all for 4WD.

Jeep might have won some awards there, but in the used market they are a proven dud.

[Jasman]

I truly feel sorry for Jeep owners. They get lied and deceived to and they must be gullible to believe it.

I think we could get a charity to help these poor soles that have been ripped off.

4x4 is more that a dirt road with puddles on it. But then again I wouldn't go that extreme in a jeep.

Bullant, you said recently you drive a Patrol, it wasn't that long ago these things were labelled grenades.....and you think we need charity!   

Ps. Impressive post count over the last few months!!

[Jasman]

Unfortunately Jeep are having more than 1 or 2 terminal duds in the current GC.

I even know of one large new car dealership chain that now refuses the trade of Jeeps after being burnt a few times on them.

Yeah they having a few duds but I think you'll find the ones that are off the road are mostly because of parts availability.  When mine did an alternator they said it would take 3-4 weeks to get one, lucky for me my dealer ripped one off a new car in the showroom and got me on the road. The importer really needs to review how they manage parts.

I didn't experience any problems trading mine and I got prices from Jeep, Toyota, ford and Mazda.  All were similar and both Ford and Jeep were going to keep it as a stock car rather than wholesaling.  It sounds like Scarps did better than me.  Because of the strong demand for new GC I think they should do ok, I had to wait 2months to get me new one.

Not sure I agree with solely testing vehicles and comparing them when they are brand new as the be all and end all for 4WD.

Jeep might have won some awards there, but in the used market they are a proven dud.

I agree, time will be the telling point, lucky mine will be traded before it runs out of warranty!  Not sure I agree on the used market comment for the new models.

[Bullant4x4]

Bullant, you said recently you drive a Patrol, it wasn't that long ago these things were labelled grenades.....and you think we need charity!   

I only brought in 2013 so this wasn't an issue. I brought the beast as the family got into camping.

Ps. Impressive post count over the last few months!!

I can't explain this? I think of myself as an introvert, only really comment on important facts that relate to me and try not to baffle anyone with bull****. I'm a person that avoids stirring the pot, would never rock a boat and try and remain silent when drunk?

Come to think of it I have only had one person yell at me from the sixth floor for talking too loud on a job. So I would say I was softly spoken gentleman with good manners.

I do have a bit of spare time now I've gone part time with my business but home dad keeps me busy.

I'm sure they have been quality, not quantity posts?

[dazzler]

I still love you bullant. Despite your hogging the bandwidth.




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[slcs78]

Back on topic, just wasted half an hour reading old mates Facebook page. I think he just needs to have a cup of tea and have a lay down. Christ some of his issues are really non issues

[dazzler]

And amazingly another dissatisfied jeep buyer had theirs replaced with a new one.

Maybe it's all in the approach.


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[Oldandslow]

I am no fan of jeeps but you can get problems in any car. A mate of mine bought a 2 door Mercedes with the big V8 and AMG kit. 18000km service bill was $7k, $3k of that was just for new tyres. He had a few things fixed under warranty (12 months I think) but after the warranty ran out the problems continued. I drove it around for a few days when it was about two years old and it had about half a dozen faults, the owner would not take it for repair because he knew the dealer would rip him off. I was happy to get back into my IX35. He paid over $400K for his car.

[Darcy7]

He did it....!

https://www.facebook.com/destroymyjeep

[scarps]

He did it....!

https://www.facebook.com/destroymyjeep

also made most of the national news services over the weekend. Must have been a slow news week.

[Bird]

Cant blame the bloke can ya...

[scarps]

Cant blame the bloke can ya...

mixed views, not disputing He got one of the bad ones, many people (both Jeep owners and not) think He's a d#ck. Many people don't care either way, it's a Jeep afterall:-)
underlying the whole hysteria was the real story and that is that Australia doesn't have 'Lemon Law'. Tough one.

[dazzler]

The law is fine as it is.

Under warranty the dealership has to repair the vehicle and you have to give them the opportunity to do so.  If they refuse, or don't repair it properly, you can take them to QCAT and the court can decide. 

This bloke acted unreasonably, saddled up the big horse and cost himself thousands.

Clown.

[oldmate]

The law is fine as it is.

Under warranty the dealership has to repair the vehicle and you have to give them the opportunity to do so.  If they refuse, or don't repair it properly, you can take them to QCAT and the court can decide. 

This bloke acted unreasonably, saddled up the big horse and cost himself thousands.

Clown.

He did and they couldn't.
Quote from facebook page.
Destroy My Jeep Hi Glen Drinkwater, I haven't heard from them since the emails that followed the QCAT hearing a few months ago, when the Fiat Chrysler Group Australia executive waved a printout of my Facebook posts around and tried to turn the mediation about my lemon vehicle into a discussion about my Facebook posts... Thankfully the adjudicator saw right through it and told them to stick to subject of my lemon vehicle. 
Needless to say , we couldn't come to an agreement during mediation and the court couldn't make a ruling cause it was above their $25k limit
If only QCAT could make rulings above $25k... (We have a petition in place to change that!)

[Darcy7]

They say there are 2 sides to every story and I have no doubt this one is no exception.

I'm just very surprised that it got to this point.  I honestly didn't think he would follow through with his threat and I also thought Jeep would have done everything they could to avoid this sort of negative publicity.

The only winner out of this is the charity that will receive the $20,000 raised...!

Extraordinary...

[Jasman]

The only winner out of this is the charity that will receive the $20,000 raised...!

I don't think he was raising money for charity, I think he was keeping the money in compensation.

[oldmate]

I don't think he was raising money for charity, I think he was keeping the money in compensation.

agreed, the only charity money i thought was raised was almost $300 which was from coffee and food on the DD. The $18g raised went to his bank manager along with $10g out of his pocket. He does seem like a bit of a clown like daz said but if what he has done helps someone else down the track than thats a good thing i guess.

[scarps]

It will be interesting to see the impact on the Jeep sales market (new and old) which I think may have been one of his objectives. Also feel He was pushed beyond a point of no return based on an unsympathetic parent company.
One of the few concerns I had was the arrogance and lack of customer care by Jeep Aus when something has gone wrong. A point that is well documented in many online forums, social media and website data.