Workshop build from 2010

[berlitza]

ohhhh you have a Niva,, great little 4x4

[Brumbypt]

Concrete has been down for a month now, I left it about 3 weeks before doing much to it. I didnt really walk on it for 2 weeks. It took most of the 2-3 weeks to dry off as its winter, under cover and on poly/plastic.

Gutter is up on the east wing, I think I mentioned that. and was flows into the 5000lt tank. I drilled a 32mm hole about 1m up from the bottom and that now flows into the main house tank from the outlet.
(The reason that I did that instead of connecting the house to the bottom outlet is that I knew I would forget to turn it off when not needed, now its all automatic. THe reason that I havnt just let the over flow flow into the house tank is that I would have had to have a 4 inch pipe running from the WOrkshop tank to the house tank and at about 45 meters, welll the its cheaper to put in a 32mm pipe and sacrifice a little of the tank. Eventually I will connect a gatevalve (TAP) to my new outlet so I can fill the workshop tank completely.
The reason I put my new outlet down so far on the workshop tank is for storms, I now have about 3-4000lts of catchment during storms that can then flow at its own pace into the house tank through the 32mm pipe.
I should take a photo to show you.


Anyway back to the workshop:-
I have built the storage room frame and put up some cement sheeting on the workshop side. Meaning I nearly have the storage room built to lockup. THe big doors for the workshop are not up nor will that happen for a long time now.

Once I have the storage room able to be locked then I can bring all my tools up and start working again. I only have half the shed concreted so far.
I should have done the concrete myself, then I would have money left over to do the rest. The job they did wasnt very good anyway..
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[Brumbypt]

I have ordered the garage panel door and convinced them to let me install it myself.. It should be fairly straight forward as its a panel door so should be light enough, and I wont have motors so should be an easy install..

I will take photos and post how to install the panel door

[Brumbypt]

Started putting in the garage door for the rear entry (or Exit) so far just put in the support columns for the doors and clamped on the tracks..

Now to think of way to lift up the roller door..

the guy I bought it off said to use some ropes and pull it up..

My gantry isnt tall enough, But I could use it upto its height and then lift up one end of the door at a time by hand..
But I just had a better idea come to me now, the garage roller door is still in a big trailer (That I have borrowed). so if I lift the gantry into that, move it further into the shed so I have more roof space and lift up the with the gantry then back up to the door way or till the gantry goes through the roof...


I think or hope the panel door (Front door) will be easier to install, well lift into position anyway..


hmmm thanks
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[Brumbypt]

Slab is in and going off... (drying)....

work out ur measurements when U have time, and u tink about it lots to get it right, then stick to it.

add a little extra and maybe prepare an over flow pad.

darn concreters, not saying anymore.

First roller door is installed, look up on youtube on how to install them or tips..
I used the method of hanging too ropes each end and tying loops up the rope and then u lift the door from one loop to the next.

when I was tensioning up the door spring it I undid the bracket with the pip wrench on and well it released its presure and the wrench swung around on the door axle and gave the back of my hand a huge wang..
a couple of hours later I was driven to the hospital for xrays.
second trip tot he hospital for this shed.

SO the tip is tension up the door spring with 2 people and 2 pipe wrenches and WHILE the door is up, not down.
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[Brumbypt]

Concrete looks terrible, well its not smoothe and lovely..

Roller door was hard physicllay but straight forward to work out what goes where... Ok I did have someone show me but most ppl should be able to work it out.


THIS Panel door (front door) well thats a different story...
No instructions, no list of parts..

THey dont normally sell to DIYers, well thats what they told me.

there is a lot of working out to do.

But I think I have worked out what every screw does, I wont need the wood screws or concrete screws but most other parts I have worked out where they go...
Cos of my shed I had to buy extra steel to support the horizontal supports..

if u didnt build ur shed get the panel door installed..
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[Brumbypt]

RE: the panel door..

I am glad I spent an afternoon or so playing (I mean working out) with the parts and looking at the panels and counting hinges etc to see what everything does.

Today I put up the vertical supports or guides and then started stacking the panels one by one.
The top one with the windows I held in place with an Stretchy strap, they are all fairly light no more than 15 kgs, prob around 10kgs or so, i have no idea really

Next day will be working out the horizontal guides and building brackets to hold the horizontal guides.
also the top of the Vertical guides need to be cut down shorter.
Lots of measuring.
Also have to install the Lintal and then put the brackets on, that hold the axle and spring etc.


 

 


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[Brumbypt]

Panel door is in place and working ok, but since I have sold some more stuff I ordered a Motor.

I aint that happy with the way it goes up cos it feels a bit stuff and heavy, but the middle spring that holds the spring has bent so either I over tensioned the spring or it was just a weak bracket. or I screwed it on wrong.

Look if you want to self install your own panel or sectional door its possible, it took me 5 days (half normal days) try and get instructions if you dont have access to another door to have a look at what all the bits do, I took a video of the demo door in the shop, wished I took photos but the video was good and I could play that on my phone and pause it where I needed a better look.

I cant explain here how to install them, there is way too much details to try to explain.

The roller door was easy exept for the weight compared to the panel door.

I have more roof clearance with the panel door but I am going to re mount the roller door up higher was soon as I can work out how to hold the weight of the door.. if you cant lift them there are roller door lifters or you could make one or borrow a forklift etc, or a scissor lift etc etc.. I have a big 3m wide 3m drop roller door and I Used the rope with loop method, please see you tube.

[Brumbypt]

12 months of using the shed without the panel door..
$1900 to buy the panel door.
5 days to install the panel door

3 months of using the panel door
$100 to buy the acubra Hat (That made me not see the door was still down a little)
1st time driving the tractor into the shed with panel door
2 seconds to damage the panel door realizing very quickly the panel door wasnt all the way up
darn roll cage on the fergy hope it saves my life one day. but in the mean time its dangerous and annoying. And Realy expensive and dangerous to have there..

20 minutes to fix the door leaving a little dint on the inside to remind me to always put the door fully up.
It might have been cheaper to install that motor to make sure its fully up eavery time I open it... Hmmm might just doo that now..
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[Brumbypt]

Well after paying for that crappy concreting job in the workshop it was back to doing concreteing jobs myself. This time the front verandah where we park during summer and I have the firewood in winter.

So its only a small area 4m x 3m..

after watching the crappy concreters i learnt a little more from the experience and this new pad I did on monday has turned out to be my best job so far.
Its as smoothe as.. A few little blemishes but over all its really good..
so early next year I will do a big area outside the workshop for doing outside work and I hope will turn out as smoothe as this latest job.

(Yes I know the smoother it is the more slippery it is when wet, but its easier to work on and the car creeeper slides easier.)
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[Brumbypt]

Finally I got the courage to get a final inspection from Council..

Anyway it passed and now I have the certificate of completion.. Although I have to put in a few more screws at the top of the wall sheets into the eave..
but apart from that he said it was good enough to pass.

So thanks for following and all the best with your sheds.. Hope I have helped encourage you to build a shed..
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[Brumbypt]

Hmmm, the PANEL door has been a little hard to lift up, not that bad so I thought I would spend half an hour or so and tighten up the spring..


well 4 days of work later I am still working on the panel door.

Spring went flip flop and spun out.. Didnt hurt me which was good.

anyway to cut down 4 days of work into a paragraph..

If you have to adjust the door yourself and you dont know what u are doing then get a door technician..

But if you have to do it yourself, undo and lift up the top panels leaving the bottom panel in the vertical section.. The top panels will sit nicely on the horizontal rails.

THe bottom panel should be sitting about halfway if not closer to the top. First thing u do is lock off the spring, i used a couple of 3/8 socket handles.. Once the spring is safe place a stand or board under the bottom panel to stop it dropping to the ground when u undo the spring..

Also get half a dozen pieces of angle iron or something similar, you need these to squeeze int he spring to use as spacers, the spring needs to be spread out as when it is wound up with the garage door down it may push the centre bracket out of whack..

Undo the spring, making sure your one of your handles is gunna stop the spring un winding. also check the chock thats holding up the panel. WInd up the spring one or two complete turns, refit everything double check all the 10mm lock nuts are up tight... then test..

refit and test.. Be very very careful of garage door springs, they can send you to the hospital or worse... Best to watch someone else do the job if you aint comfortable doing the job.. Best to pay someone than to be off work due to broken arm or skull..
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[Brumbypt]

ohhhh you have a Niva,, great little 4x4

Sold it soon after building the workshop..  Got sick of it using my fuel and the battery going flat..

[Brumbypt]

I will edit some of the posts and include photos if u like or u can go to my photo bucket site and look at them there...

[Tjupurula]

Thankyou so much for sharing that Peter.  I was getting really discouraged with my health issues, but as a tradesman, I am going to take up an offer from TAFE to teach some of the local youth welding and basic steelwork.  Hopefully I will get a couple ready for apprenticeships in the mines.
Again, thankyou.
Regards
Tjupurula

[Brumbypt]

Thats excellent..

I wrote it back in 2010 and posted it on another forumn. Lcool..

And recently on the what did u do in your workshop forum they talked anout building their own sheds and workshops, so i thought i would copy it here..


Hope it encourages some ppl to build their own sheds instead of getting them built..


All the best..


Tapa Tapa talk is not as good as using safari.

[Snow]

Tapa Tapa talk is not as good as using safari.

Nope, but it is a sure fire way of getting your post count up. 

Great thread btw Peter. 

[achjimmy]

Thanks Peter

Having just built a shed, including doing the doors I appreciate this thread.

[cruisindub]

Good write up mate, good to see the post informative and Thanks for sharing.

[speewa158]

This took me back to when l built my shed some years ago of about the same size . You read the instructions or you are supposed to anyway . If you do this every day it easy but if you don't then it takes a bit longer . Sitting in the shed having a coldie is 1 of lifes luxuries  .Something to be severed . Well Done   

[Brumbypt]

Both my sheds did NOT come with instructions.. I had to work it out myself..

The shed house was very hard to work out, but i had to persist cos i couldn't afford someone to build it for me.. That had horizontal corry so had thousands of batons to screw on.
Also it was bolted to the concrete and not concreted into the ground like the workshop..

The workshop was a breeze compared, still hard...




Tapa Tapa talk is not as good as using safari.

[speewa158]

Here's a tip for a shed with no floor . Pallets , there are lots of them that take a 1 way trip , cost SFA , keeps the toys out of the mud/dust . When you afford the floor you can burn them at the Welcome Floor Party to cook on & keep warm  . l am available for any festivities 

[Brumbypt]

I cant remember how long, but i think i ended up getting half the workshop concreted fairly quickly.  I had my welder, air compressor inside the house for the time between the containers sold and first half of the concrete done..

Also had the verandah on the house petty full of stuff..

And one of the rooms, my office, had all the storage crap.

The guy that bought the 2 shipping containers got very very delayed in picking them up, so that worked out very well in my advantage..





Tapa Tapa talk is not as good as using safari.

[Brumbypt]

Ohh yeah, we used pallets when we moved to the house, had them outside the door to walk on to keep out of the sticky clay. And had old carpet mats on them to make em look nicer..


So ppl you don't need to rush into completing big jobs, do them as you can afford them and stop getting yourself in big debts..


Tapa Tapa talk is not as good as using safari.

[cruisindub]

Got any pics of your 'shed house'?

We like the idea of a wide span shed, barn conversion, open plan etc.

Simple and industrial..........