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Re: Towns with Aboriginal Names
« Reply #150 on: June 22, 2013, 12:40:50 PM »
Isn't Bondi Kiwi for something?

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"Bondi" or "Boondi" is an Aboriginal word meaning water breaking over rocks or noise of water breaking over rocks.[1][2] The Australian Museum records that Bondi means place where a flight of nullas took place.
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Re: Towns with Aboriginal Names
« Reply #151 on: June 22, 2013, 01:23:09 PM »
That is correct.  Bidyedanga, also known as La Grange, where I have quite a few family members from my mothers side of the family.
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My mother may have taught some kids from your mothers side at the school there she finished up there about 3 years back she worked for about 2 years up there - mad still working in her 70's -  but the town ship was a stunning place and i still have photos of some of the kids playing with my kids in the local pool so much personality
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Re: Towns with Aboriginal Names
« Reply #152 on: June 22, 2013, 02:42:57 PM »
My mother may have taught some kids from your mothers side at the school there she finished up there about 3 years back she worked for about 2 years up there - mad still working in her 70's -  but the town ship was a stunning place and i still have photos of some of the kids playing with my kids in the local pool so much personality

I do not know how many family groups you got to know there, but we are related tpo tyhe Billycan family and the Frank family in Bidyeganga.  We stkll go over there now and then for various reasons.
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« Reply #153 on: June 22, 2013, 07:36:32 PM »
I do not know how many family groups you got to know there, but we are related tpo tyhe Billycan family and the Frank family in Bidyeganga.  We stkll go over there now and then for various reasons.
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I think I read some where that you dont have an e-mail address and it is not the rite thing to post pictures of kids on a public forum with out parents consent but if you have access to an e-mail address I will send photos to you of the kids playing in the pool there just pm me
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Re: Towns with Aboriginal Names
« Reply #154 on: June 22, 2013, 10:02:17 PM »
Mooroolbark  Vic, red dirt or red earth I can't remember which.

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« Reply #155 on: June 22, 2013, 11:18:24 PM »
Warburton, aboriginal for errrrrrrr Warburton
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« Reply #156 on: June 23, 2013, 01:13:29 AM »
Moonroolbark  Vic, red dirt or red earth I can't remember which.

I know that Muurulbuk means red soil/earth/dirt, it could well havecome from there.
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« Reply #157 on: June 23, 2013, 01:14:55 AM »
I think I read some where that you dont have an e-mail address and it is not the rite thing to post pictures of kids on a public forum with out parents consent but if you have access to an e-mail address I will send photos to you of the kids playing in the pool there just pm me


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« Reply #158 on: June 23, 2013, 04:54:25 AM »
From Wikipedia

"Bondi" or "Boondi" is an Aboriginal word meaning water breaking over rocks or noise of water breaking over rocks.[1][2] The Australian Museum records that Bondi means place where a flight of nullas took place.

Hi Oldmate
In Walmajarri (my language) a buundi is a solid rock foundation, an yes, it was the kind of place my ancestors would choose for a fight with nulla nullas took place.  The reason for the rock formation was in case anyone came out with boomerangs or spears, the rock formation would afford some safety.
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« Reply #159 on: June 23, 2013, 09:47:21 AM »
Hi Oldmate
In Walmajarri (my language) a buundi is a solid rock foundation, an yes, it was the kind of place my ancestors would choose for a fight with nulla nullas took place.  The reason for the rock formation was in case anyone came out with boomerangs or spears, the rock formation would afford some safety.
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There you go as a kid if we was to throw a rock at something or some one we would say we are trowing buundies - so that is where the word is from, thanks when the kids are out the back fighting with rocks ( buundies ) I will explain to them where the word came from.
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Re: Towns with Aboriginal Names
« Reply #160 on: June 23, 2013, 12:01:14 PM »
Hi,
   Gregory has been mentioned here a few times.
His story is well worth reading, not famous like a lot of the 'establishment' explorers, perhaps because of his humble beginnings.









I got the book from the local library, and found it fascinating reading.


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I have that book as well. Read it on the way from Alice to Broome. Was really good  :cheers:
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« Reply #161 on: June 23, 2013, 12:52:58 PM »
I have that book as well. Read it on the way from Alice to Broome. Was really good  :cheers:

I just realised that the foreword is by Janet Holmes a Court, I think she is the one who owns Flora Valley Station over on the way to Ringers Soak.
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« Reply #162 on: June 23, 2013, 01:12:50 PM »
I just realised that the foreword is by Janet Holmes a Court, I think she is the one who owns Flora Valley Station over on the way to Ringers Soak.
Tjupurula

Really, I had no idea. It's a good read and amazing how hard it was for all back then.
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« Reply #163 on: June 23, 2013, 02:45:30 PM »
Really, I had no idea. It's a good read and amazing how hard it was for all back then.

Not really all that hard Steve.  A couple ofyears ago, during the wet, we push about 1800 cattle on the Tanami frpo Yuendemu to Tanami Downs on horseback, and we did not lose any, other than a couple for a feed.  It only took us 10 weeks, and if this is the life you are used to, there is nothing hard about it.  We did have a couple of "experienced" stockmen, not drovers, with us, they lasted just over a week.
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« Reply #164 on: June 23, 2013, 07:32:07 PM »
My oldest grandson (nearly 14) has discovered that a lo of actual communities are named after "missionaries".  Hermansburg near Alice Spring is actually named after a German Missionary named Herman, and apparentl there are heap of others.  Kind of strange that many towns have Aboriginal names, and many Aboriginal communiies have been named after missionaries or well rcognised people.  Mulan is still know as Lake Gregory Station, named after Gregory the traveller/discoverer.
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Re: Towns with Aboriginal Names
« Reply #165 on: June 23, 2013, 08:31:38 PM »
There are a few explanations for Toowoomba on the local history site.

http://www.toowoombarc.qld.gov.au/facilities-and-recreation/libraries/local-history-library/7871-the-naming-of-toowoomba

The pronunciation of The Swamp as Tawampa is similar to what I remember vaguely from my childhood.

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Re: Towns with Aboriginal Names
« Reply #166 on: June 23, 2013, 09:16:09 PM »
I know that Muurulbuk means red soil/earth/dirt, it could well havecome from there.
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Cool!

I did just fix my typo too.

It Mooroolbark. Or as we used to call it "cow kanga dog"

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« Reply #167 on: June 23, 2013, 10:25:16 PM »
Cool!

I did just fix my typo too.

It Mooroolbark. Or as we used to call it "cow kanga dog"

Cheers

Embarrassingly enough my granddaughter had to explain the "cow kanga dog" bit to me.
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Re: Towns with Aboriginal Names
« Reply #168 on: June 24, 2013, 07:49:14 AM »
Cool!

I did just fix my typo too.

It Mooroolbark. Or as we used to call it "cow kanga dog"

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I get it  ;D

That would be a good clue on one of those "fox hunt" drives.

We had one years ago through sydney (Parramatta to windsor), and one of the clues was in the suburb of Riverstone, A road that shares the same name as a fat cat (Garfield Rd)

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« Reply #169 on: June 27, 2013, 01:35:46 PM »
Hi all. Just wanted to let you know Tjupurula is off to Darwin Hospital today so they can keep and eye on him. It's been a rough couple of days so time to get some big city help. He sounded well and is waiting for the RFDS to take him from Derby to Darwin today. I'll be in Mulan on Monday so I'll see his wife and get an update. Hopefully all goes well.
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Re: Towns with Aboriginal Names
« Reply #170 on: June 27, 2013, 06:06:10 PM »
Hi all. Just wanted to let you know Tjupurula is off to Darwin Hospital today so they can keep and eye on him. It's been a rough couple of days so time to get some big city help. He sounded well and is waiting for the RFDS to take him from Derby to Darwin today. I'll be in Mulan on Monday so I'll see his wife and get an update. Hopefully all goes well.

Thanks for the update Steve, I though it was a bit quiet on here of late with some quality posting from the desert

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« Reply #171 on: June 27, 2013, 06:26:24 PM »
Hi all. Just wanted to let you know Tjupurula is off to Darwin Hospital today so they can keep and eye on him. It's been a rough couple of days so time to get some big city help. He sounded well and is waiting for the RFDS to take him from Derby to Darwin today. I'll be in Mulan on Monday so I'll see his wife and get an update. Hopefully all goes well.
Please give her our best wishes from us all Steve, and tell her that they are all in our thoughts as her family goes though this hard time.  :cheers:
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« Reply #172 on: June 27, 2013, 08:55:56 PM »
Yea, will do fellas. Going to help her out getting the computer working as the keyboard has lost the wireless thingy. I'll give an update when I can
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« Reply #173 on: July 01, 2013, 12:14:40 AM »
My young cousin will be in Mulan on teh 3rd August for a week.

Although I've never met Tjupurula personally myself, I've spoken to my cousin about him quite alot, and relayed what I vaguely know of him.

I hope hes back then to meet my cousin and speak directly.

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« Reply #174 on: July 01, 2013, 08:26:34 AM »
I grew up in Wangaratta (NE Vic). It meant "meeting of 2 rivers" the Ovens and King rivers

Just out of town was a large farm, one of the first in the area called Bontharambo, meaning "treeless plains"  it did have an Aboriginal camp on the nearby river, but I don't think it ended well for them after an uprising.

Most of the towns in north and northeast Victoria, (and possibly right across) have Aboriginal sounding names. so much so that the English names sound out of place.

It is funny listening to outsiders trying to pronounce them using the English gramma.  It can be so bad you have no idea of where they are talking about.

Had some toffs in town trying to pronounce it won-gar-ratta,  instead of wang-gar-ratta, because that is how "wan" is pronounced. Considering how the town is spelt how it sounds and not the other way around.
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