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Re: Some Aboriginal explanations
« Reply #50 on: June 09, 2013, 07:21:52 PM »
I worked with a Maori bloke for sometime and he was telling a story about a place where he worked and how he was expected to do something and it wasn't really a good reason given why he was told he had to do it, other than he was black. I replied to him hey and so you should your black but he knew I was only joking but the thing is, the mob that told him wasn't! >:D

You really need to know the person and their personality before you can engage in this sort of banter. ;)

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Re: Some Aboriginal explanations
« Reply #51 on: June 09, 2013, 08:27:33 PM »
Hi Tjupurula

Can you tell us why you are not allowed to mention a persons name once they have passed away?
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Re: Some Aboriginal explanations
« Reply #52 on: June 09, 2013, 08:38:29 PM »
Hi Tjupurula

Can you tell us why you are not allowed to mention a persons name once they have passed away?


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Re: Some Aboriginal explanations
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    Can you explain to me about the not using the first name but the last name is ok, for when someone has died please?

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Hi Foo
The last name is, as with all societies, the family name.  The first name is how the person is recognised, and as we all pass into the spirit world with our ancestors, we do not want to disturb the spirit journey to join the ancestiors by calling them back.  We use the term Kumuntjai, which basically means "no name", and the same term is used for others who shared the same name, or any name that is extremely close.  The family name is the name of the group, not the individual.
I hope that explains it for you.
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Re: Some Aboriginal explanations
« Reply #53 on: June 09, 2013, 08:43:43 PM »
Thanks Foo

I read the whole thread or at least thought I did! Tjupurula sorry I missed that.
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Re: Some Aboriginal explanations
« Reply #54 on: June 09, 2013, 09:24:05 PM »
Considering plenty of black fellas call us 'whiteys' and I have a good mate that does to me and they refer to themselves as black fellas, it usually all good. I have tons of mates that are indigenous and have a great laugh about it all.
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Re: Some Aboriginal explanations
« Reply #55 on: June 09, 2013, 09:48:35 PM »
Considering plenty of black fellas call us 'whiteys' and I have a good mate that does to me and they refer to themselves as black fellas, it usually all good. I have tons of mates that are indigenous and have a great laugh about it all.

My Goodness Steve, you spend enough time out here in the communities, you should know a few black fellas by now, and I also know that you know quite a few community people.  This political correctness is out of control I think.
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« Reply #56 on: June 09, 2013, 10:04:45 PM »
I think we need to organise the next Myswag national meet up at TJs place!

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Re: Some Aboriginal explanations
« Reply #57 on: June 09, 2013, 10:06:54 PM »
Tjupurula, thankyou for taking the time to share some of yourself with us. I'm very lucky to have worked closely with the various Sea Ranger groups across the Top End and appreciate the experience and the harmonious relationships that the indigenous folk have with our environment.

I have to say too, they have the cheekiest senses of humour too, great blokes and very happy to share their knowledge with a city slicker like me! I swear, some of those trips, I've never laughed so hard in my life! 

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Re: Some Aboriginal explanations
« Reply #58 on: June 09, 2013, 10:21:41 PM »
I think we need to organise the next Myswag national meet up at TJs place!

Cheers Chippy :D

I'll be there is three weeks so I'll scope it out  ;D Would be so good to spend a night around the fire with Tjupurula. Come visit Chippy and we can head out together.

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Re: Some Aboriginal explanations
« Reply #59 on: June 09, 2013, 10:55:38 PM »
I think we need to organise the next Myswag national meet up at TJs place!

Cheers Chippy :D

Hi Chippy
Some Swaggers have already been this way, and the amount of damage to their CT's was horrifying.  There is no such thing as a good road here, unless it is the first 2 - 3 days after it has been graded.  The Tanami at the best if tines at the moment is not friendly towards anything being towed, as much as I reckon that such is a great idea, I would say not at the moment.
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Re: Some Aboriginal explanations
« Reply #60 on: June 09, 2013, 11:22:38 PM »
I think we need to organise the next Myswag national meet up at TJs place!
You wouldn't wish a bunch of Swaggers on anyone :o  though I do like the idea :cup:

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Re: Some Aboriginal explanations
« Reply #61 on: June 09, 2013, 11:40:20 PM »
I just had a brief chat with Steve on the telephone.  I realise that last time I vanished some people were a bit concerned.  I may well be vanishing again for a while, as I have to have a heart check-up, and that cannot be done in country.  My blood pressure has been up and down like anything, and because it has been way too low a couple of times they are also worried about the function of another organ, but what the heck, I am too damned ugly to leave this exitence yet.
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Re: Some Aboriginal explanations
« Reply #62 on: June 09, 2013, 11:42:53 PM »
Tjupurula, thankyou for taking the time to share some of yourself with us. I'm very lucky to have worked closely with the various Sea Ranger groups across the Top End and appreciate the experience and the harmonious relationships that the indigenous folk have with our environment.

I have to say too, they have the cheekiest senses of humour too, great blokes and very happy to share their knowledge with a city slicker like me! I swear, some of those trips, I've never laughed so hard in my life! 

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Yep, sounds likeyou with a bunch of good fellas.  My nephew is actually the Head Ranger here, and he is forever laughing and having a good time.
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Re: Some Aboriginal explanations
« Reply #63 on: June 09, 2013, 11:46:05 PM »
You wouldn't wish a bunch of Swaggers on anyone :o  though I do like the idea :cup:

You mean you wouldn't wish this place on a bunch of Swaggers......no alcohol and the nearest full strength alcohol being Broome or Kununurra, they'd have the shakes for days ;D
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Re: Some Aboriginal explanations
« Reply #64 on: June 09, 2013, 11:48:07 PM »
I just had a brief chat with Steve on the telephone.  I realise that last time I vanished some people were a bit concerned.  I may well be vanishing again for a while, as I have to have a heart check-up, and that cannot be done in country.  My blood pressure has been up and down like anything, and because it has been way too low a couple of times they are also worried about the function of another organ, but what the heck, I am too damned ugly to leave this exitence yet.
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Re: Some Aboriginal explanations
« Reply #65 on: June 09, 2013, 11:56:09 PM »
I have a mate who is half black fella and on Australia Day he always says to me "happy invasion day whitey" ;D
Just thought I'd share that as it always amuses me!
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Re: Some Aboriginal explanations
« Reply #66 on: June 10, 2013, 12:00:52 AM »
I have a mate who is half black fella and on Australia Day he always says to me "happy invasion day whitey" ;D
Just thought I'd share that as it always amuses me!

That seems appropriate coming frm someone who is only half black fella.  I reckon Australia day is great, without people coming to this country, and giving us their skills and knowledge, I would not be on this website now.  If I was around, I would have died months ago from the heart attack that I had.  If he is only a half black fella, what is the other half, I just had this image of someone standing up, with a line from head to toe, one side black and the other something else.  Goodness my mind goes silly sometimes.
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Re: Some Aboriginal explanations
« Reply #67 on: June 10, 2013, 12:08:32 AM »
I just had this image of someone standing up, with a line from head to toe, one side black and the other something else.  Goodness my mind goes silly sometimes.
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Re: Some Aboriginal explanations
« Reply #68 on: June 10, 2013, 12:09:19 AM »
That seems appropriate coming frm someone who is only half black fella.  I reckon Australia day is great, without people coming to this country, and giving us their skills and knowledge, I would not be on this website now.  If I was around, I would have died months ago from the heart attack that I had.  If he is only a half black fella, what is the other half, I just had this image of someone standing up, with a line from head to toe, one side black and the other something else.  Goodness my mind goes silly sometimes.
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Half white fella half black fella, we often make suggestions to him as to how he is put together but it wouldn't be appropriate to repeat them here ;D
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Re: Some Aboriginal explanations
« Reply #69 on: June 10, 2013, 05:50:58 AM »
You mean he has a foot in both camps DannyG.  ;D

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Re: Some Aboriginal explanations
« Reply #70 on: June 10, 2013, 07:59:31 AM »
You wouldn't wish a bunch of Swaggers on anyone :o  though I do like the idea :cup:

I'd be there...... now, let me think, where did i put the oil, chocolate and strawberries.
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Re: Some Aboriginal explanations
« Reply #71 on: June 10, 2013, 08:46:15 AM »
You mean you wouldn't wish this place on a bunch of Swaggers......no alcohol and the nearest full strength alcohol being Broome or Kununurra, they'd have the shakes for days ;D
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Re: Some Aboriginal explanations
« Reply #72 on: June 10, 2013, 08:49:05 AM »
Tjupurula, I hope all goes well with your check up. We'll all be thinking of you and wishing you well :)

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Re: Some Aboriginal explanations
« Reply #73 on: June 10, 2013, 09:07:57 AM »
Tjupurula, I hope all goes well with your check up. We'll all be thinking of you and wishing you well :)

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« Reply #74 on: June 10, 2013, 06:35:23 PM »
Good luck with all your health checks Tjupurula.  Will be thinking of you.

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