Some Aboriginal explanations

[evolution]

Your probably right mate, But I think that is where it comes down to us as parents to expose our children to as much of what we consider important for them to learn as practical.
I know that my son loves trains and boats, because I have a passion for them and he was exposed to them. I will also as much as possible take him to places where he can learn and see what else this wonderful country has to teach him. (and Kath when she is older)

Cheers
Evo

[Tjupurula]

I don't post on here much do spend a lot of time reading and learning on MySwag.

Thankyou Tjupurula for you insights, comments and teachings.  They help us all learn and more importantly understand the Aboriginal heritage (I hope that came out right)

Cheers
David

You are most welcome David.  I have explained my position on "Aboriginal heritage" to someone else in the thread, and I am a black fella.
Regards
Tjupurula

[Foo]

My apologies Foo, I did not explain myself well at all.  There is a general term, that being "Aborignal", which actually means "Native of the land.  There are more than 1500 "language groups" in Australia, mean there are more than 1500 "Aboriginal languages" spoken by the various tribes, and very few of have exactly the same heritage, therefore to use the blanket term "Aborignal heritage" is in no way accurate.  I am a Walmajarri man, therefore my heritage is from the Walmajarri tribe, my wife is a Martu woman, her heritage comes from her tribe, hopefully that has made things clearer.
Regards
Tjupurula

Yep I understand now. It's a shame that no one has taken the time and effort to go around and get the recordings and meanings from all the Elders that could still give the insight into the different tribes, although I think there has been some small amount of this done up in the Gulf area, I think.

Foo

[Bill]

Tj,
I read you explanations and suddenly realised that many of the beliefs in your culture are very close to same beliefs of the American Indian.
I knew many American Indians from different tribes and thier beliefs and stories always fascinated me, as do yours.
Thank you for sharing some of your knowledge with us.
Bill

[Tjupurula]

Tj,
I read you explanations and suddenly realised that many of the beliefs in your culture are very close to same beliefs of the American Indian.
I knew many American Indians from different tribes and thier beliefs and stories always fascinated me, as do yours.
Thank you for sharing some of your knowledge with us.
Bill

Hi Bill
I have met some Sioux and Cheyenne Elders a few years ago when they escorted some skeletal remans back to our country, as they had been given to those tribes in error.  I therefore take that as a massive compliment, as they had pride and dignity that one could immediately sense.
Tjupurula

[hayesy]

Thank you Tjupurula.  I have always been interested in the ways and beliefs of Aboriginal people but of course have always been too busy to read and learn as much as I would have liked to.  I look forward to reading any thing further you may write.  I might even have some questions of my own for you, if you don't mind.

Cheers
Hayesy

[Tjupurula]

Thank you Tjupurula.  I have always been interested in the ways and beliefs of Aboriginal people but of course have always been too busy to read and learn as much as I would have liked to.  I look forward to reading any thing further you may write.  I might even have some questions of my own for you, if you don't mind.

Cheers
Hayesy

Most questions I shpuld answer, there are some that I will not answer, as culturally I am not allowed to, and I am not geting speared through the leg fior anyone.  If I state that I will not answer a question, that will be the only answer given.
Tjupurula

[JCOJ]

Thank you TJ.

I read that to my two boys while sitting around the campfire this evening and they were totally fascinated.

[Tjupurula]

Thank you TJ.

I read that to my two boys while sitting around the campfire this evening and they were totally fascinated.

I also thankyou for allowing your boys to learn about black fella ways.
Tjupurula

[gclan]

Hi Tjupurula

I was meaning to ask you, do you keep any written or audio recordings of your language and dreamings for future generations, or is it still just passed down verbally from one generation to the next?

Karen

[Tjupurula]

Hi Tjupurula

I was meaning to ask you, do you keep any written or audio recordings of your language and dreamings for future generations, or is it still just passed down verbally from one generation to the next?

Karen

Hi Karen
We have done both.  We have Law (Lore) evry year, and when we bring the new men (no longer boys) into the clan, they do the dances and tell the Dreamings they havelearned that are relevant to them.
My daughter and her two young ones have been sitting with me and my younger brother quite a bit, recording everything they can, and where relevant, translating it to English.  It is then somehow put onto the discs, but I leave that up to them.
Regards
Tjupurla

[crackacoldie]

Thank you again TJ for sharing your culture, my three children are enjoying learning with me as we read your stories.

 Regards. Craig

[SteveandViv]

Tjupurula,

I wish we could grab you and bring you to town for a while. There are some young people that would do well to sit with you and yarn for a while. I look forward to saying hello in a few weeks and I too love the stories of the land and culture.

Good stuff.

[Marcus73]

Before you ask, my tudegdi is a corella (a kind of cocky).

Regards
Tjupurula

Is that why you talk so much

Seriously Tjupurula, you're a top bloke who I'd be more than happy to have a chat around the campfire with although,  ( like probably shared with many others ) I don't feel I'd be doing much talking. Just listening, for hours.
You my friend are a true inspiration to your culture.


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[Tjupurula]

Is that why you talk so much

Seriously Tjupurula, you're a top bloke who I'd be more than happy to have a chat around the campfire with although,  ( like probably shared with many others ) I don't feel I'd be doing much talking. Just listening, for hours.
You my friend are a true inspiration to your culture.


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Hi Marcus
Your first point is quite relevant.  I have probably said too much on the computer, and I have upset a couple of people and apologised for doing so.  They were quite right to get annoyed, and I will slow down a bit.
Around a fire I do not talk much, preferring instead to learn from others.
Regards
Tjupurula

[Marcus73]

Hi Marcus
Your first point is quite relevant.  I have probably said too much on the computer, and I have upset a couple of people and apologised for doing so.  They were quite right to get annoyed, and I will slow down a bit.
Around a fire I do not talk much, preferring instead to learn from others.
Regards
Tjupurula

Don't apologise, I for one am loving reading majority of your posts. Keep em coming mate



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[Nay-DMAX]

Hi thanks for sharing the information you do not just in this post but I always enjoy reading your comments. But especially the ones in this post. If it's ok to ask I see you have said what animal is sacred to you as a person are you allowed to say which one is connected with your tribe? Hopefully one day we are going to be in a postion to see more of this great country of ours thanks again.

[doc evil]

Hi Alan
Dreaming and The Dreamtime are two separate things.  I have explained Dreamings already I hope.  The Dreamtime for us is when the Serpent (snake) travelled around, where the Serpent travelled on the ground, there are valleys and rivers, and, speaking for Lake Gregory where I live, we acknowledge the Serpent, and we must mud people (rub mud all over them) before they can swim or go to the water.  Of course women mud women and men mud men.  To all black fellas water is the most precious thing, and has always been and will always be guarded by the Serpent.
That may sound strange to people that we consider water precious, but things like gold and diamonds will not keep anyone alive in the desert, or anywhere for that matter.
Regards
Tjupurula

First of TJ, thank you for taking the time to enlighten us a little.
Secondly, I met a bloke from meekathara (ancestral linked) and we were camped on the murchison river. Instead of mud, he threw a handful of sand into the water before swimming.
Is it the same but different like the different languages?

Doc.

[Frostd]

Tjupurula,  Thank you once again for sharing .  I have thoroughly enjoyed reading this thread and have learnt a few things along the way. You have alot to share and I enjoy listening to what you have to say, especially about being a 'black fella'.

[Tjupurula]

First of TJ, thank you for taking the time to enlighten us a little.
Secondly, I met a bloke from meekathara (ancestral linked) and we were camped on the murchison river. Instead of mud, he threw a handful of sand into the water before swimming.
Is it the same but different like the different languages?

Doc.

Yes, that would have been their way of making sure the Serpent knew that the right people were there.  We all have similar culture, but rarely exactly the same...juts like different languages, yes.
Tjupurula

[Tjupurula]

Tjupurula,  Thank you once again for sharing .  I have thoroughly enjoyed reading this thread and have learnt a few things along the way. You have alot to share and I enjoy listening to what you have to say, especially about being a 'black fella'.

I do not know why you say black fella inside the '..', it is just a term of phrase,  Iam glad that you have leaned from what others have asked.
Tjupurula

[Mace]

Frostd was probably referring to your previous post (33) when he used quotation marks. In this, you referred to 'black fella' ways. Many of us may feel uneasy referring to you as a black fella in direct speech or written communication.

He was tactfully using the phrase IMO, as you had previously used it.

English is a strange language!

Cheers.

[Tjupurula]

Frostd was probably referring to your previous post (33) when he used quotation marks. In this, you referred to 'black fella' ways. Many of us may feel uneasy referring to you as a black fella in direct speech or written communication.

He was tactfully using the phrase IMO, as you had previously used it.

English is a strange language!

Cheers.

Cheers Mace
Okay, Okay, I just checked in the mirror, and other than scaring the crap out of myself, I guess I am more of a cooking chocolate brown colour than I am black, in comparison with some of the African tribes, but I am most definitely a black fella.  Maa naija waji janu punduu yanama gwardia (I will check again later on)........at least my language is not so strange to me.
I call you white fellas, so you should call me as I am, a black fella.  Believe me, if I have another heart attack and need blood again, I don't care whose veins it comes from, as long as I am alive afterwards.....Well sorry Speewa..might be too much grog in yours.
Regards
Tjupurula

[Hairs]

Believe me, if I gave another heart attack and need blood again, I don't care whose veins it comes from, as long as I am alive afterwards.....
Tjupurula

 

[Foo]

I worked with a Maori bloke for sometime and he was telling a story about a place where he worked and how he was expected to do something and it wasn't really a good reason given why he was told he had to do it, other than he was black. I replied to him hey and so you should your black but he knew I was only joking but the thing is, the mob that told him wasn't!

You really need to know the person and their personality before you can engage in this sort of banter.

Foo