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Surf live saving Aust never getting another $$ from me
« on: May 11, 2013, 08:45:49 PM »
I had already read the qld coroners report , but the 4 corners report just confirmed it for me Slsa is a sick organisation.

Not for a moment meant as a insult to the many thousands of people who give up their time to make our beaches safer  :cup:

Just a shame run by a pack of morons. Give my money to club direct from now on ..

A damming performance by them on 4 corners , you would think they were a govt dept run by politicians .

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« Reply #1 on: May 11, 2013, 08:58:23 PM »
My wife gets up to 2 calls from them every day for donations for the last 12 months,,,she has already told them in no uncertain terms that she has had enough, but they wont listen. This is harassment in its finest form. I missed the 4corners program you are talking about.
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« Reply #2 on: May 11, 2013, 11:17:46 PM »
I haven't seen the program you are referring to but I do remember not all that long ago several directors quit or considered quitting due to one person on the board. these directors had a lot of clout behind them as far as fundraising was concerned as well.

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« Reply #3 on: May 11, 2013, 11:20:46 PM »
My wife gets up to 2 calls from them every day for donations for the last 12 months,,,she has already told them in no uncertain terms that she has had enough, but they wont listen. This is harassment in its finest form. I missed the 4corners program you are talking about.

Do you have a "Do Not Call" register in the west??

Haven't seen the 4 Corners report.......must look for it....
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« Reply #4 on: May 11, 2013, 11:41:25 PM »
we do have a do not call register in the west, but being a charity organization they can get around it i think.

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« Reply #5 on: May 11, 2013, 11:47:38 PM »
Do you have a "Do Not Call" register in the west??

Did the "do not call " thing....obviously doesnt work
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« Reply #6 on: May 12, 2013, 12:06:20 AM »
You can watch it on the 4 Corners website at: http://www.abc.net.au/4corners/stories/2013/05/06/3750486.htm

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« Reply #7 on: May 12, 2013, 06:09:19 AM »
I had already read the qld coroners report , but the 4 corners report just confirmed it for me Slsa is a sick organisation.

Not for a moment meant as a insult to the many thousands of people who give up their time to make our beaches safer  :cup:

Just a shame run by a pack of morons. Give my money to club direct from now on ..

A damming performance by them on 4 corners , you would think they were a govt dept run by politicians .

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Re: Surf live saving Aust never getting another $$ from me
« Reply #8 on: May 12, 2013, 07:48:58 AM »
Do you have a "Do Not Call" register in the west??

DNC register doesn't apply to charities. Hence, they still call you.

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« Reply #9 on: May 12, 2013, 07:58:32 AM »
DNC register doesn't apply to charities. Hence, they still call you.

OK. Didn't know that. Thanks.

We no longer get calls from charities, after going on the DNC. Just thought that fixed it.

And we also don't get calls from "Windows - to fix a problem with your computer, Sir", after I let fly with a tirade of extreme abuse one evening. We were getting 3 or 4 a week. Seemed to work well.........

Now, back on topic.......

Just watched the 4 Corners report. Anything I could add seems so inadequate and trivial.
All very sad.......young lives lost through bureaucratic inaction and incompetence.......
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« Reply #10 on: May 12, 2013, 09:25:25 AM »
search the courier mail lifesaver sets the record straight on the 8th of may jet

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Had a read mate , I guess there are always 3 sides to every story , but their performance in the publics opinion (mine) is woefull , the woman responsible for testing the safety equip admitted on camera the vests were the wrong size and she admitted that Slsa had already decided prior to the donation funded testing that the board did not want them. Others admitted commercial interest plays a part in events over safety

A real shame as I know 1000,s of you all donate your time to make my visit to the beach safer and I am very great full for that  :cup:, but your head shed needs lynching , kids dying in sport there is just no excuse ..full stop as the coroner said.

Under the new WHS laws these persons should be help personally liable for those deaths. As a person with no surf live saving experience (a lay person) I could clearly see from the footage that it was beyond dangerous. As could just about everyone else ,inc the boat crews who refused to compeate . So why did the apparent experts fail to see what every lay person did.because the safety culture was one of liability mitigation rather than true safety.

As Darren would say SHAME SHAME SHAME Slsa .

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Re: Surf live saving Aust never getting another $$ from me
« Reply #11 on: May 12, 2013, 11:20:26 AM »
Hey Jet

As a long time wearer of the red and yellow I would have to agree That it is far better to make a donation to your local surf club rather than give it to slsa. The organization does appear to be very top heavy and some of the procedures they set in place do seem to a bit strange on occasions, and iam sure that most of the money they raise does go into the ivory towers they all like to sit inn.

Just to give some perspective for those that are not involved in surf life saving, The club iam a member of is a small club with say 70 senior members and about 100 junior members other than rescue gear such as rescue boards , Rescue tubes, oxygen, defibs ect are only partly paid for by surf life saving All other gear such as the nipper boards the kids train on all senior training boards ect  the list is endless the rhino you see volunteers driving on weekends all has to paid for by the club so we have to apply for government grants or just good old fashioned fund raising which takes up more time than actually doing a patrol on the weekends. Just our yearly insurance, maintenance bill and other basic costs would buy you good 100 series cruiser.

As far as safety for those that are thinking of putting there kids into nippers , There is excellent procedures in place for the kids on Sunday mornings But unfortunately when it comes to big competition's where the sponsor logo is on show and there is money involved all the procedures that are in place on Sunday morning at club level seems to go out the window.

I certainly don't condone or agree with what happened at any of those carnivals were young members lost there lives,  they should have been called off .

I do agree the management of slsa dose need a shake you but unfortunately it is going to come to late .

So please keep supporting or local club or better still join up for all the bad facets of the organization, At club level it is still a great family friendly sporting association to be involved with .Just my 2 cents worth.

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« Reply #12 on: May 12, 2013, 11:49:42 AM »
I think all charities are the same with top heavy administration. I always donate to the person in need not the "fund".
For example - with the flood relief funds set up bu the Qld government, we gave directly to friends of friends/family that were affected instead of the "big fund".
I know 100% of my donation went to a family in need.

On stupid SLSC rules  - once my daughter was on patrol and a brown snake came out of the sand dunes to sun itself. The official procedure was to place three traffic cones areound the snake to warn the public.( apparently snakes can read this policy and know not to move.)

My BIL, also on patrol, picked up the snake and relocated it back into the dunes. (Some people are great at handling snakes..... Not me!)

To me that action was a sensible thing to do - especially with a beach full of kids. SLSC saw it differently and my BIL was hauled over the coals - needless to say he no longer does surf patrols!
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