Just heard that Jimboomba campers have gone bust

[Kydar]

It's just shocking that people can be so gutless to take money from others knowing full well they are shutting up shop. But on a great side note its highlighted the great Aussie spirit. It's got me thinking, I wonder if we can somehow get this camper from perth to FNQ? I'd be willing to collected it from perth (I live a couple of hours south in bunbury) and take it say 3-400km in the right direction if someone could do the next leg and the next if you get my drift. I could even donate some tires I have for the trip so that the brand new ones on the camper will still be new when they arrive at Luke's joint.

We could even document the whole trip with pics and a journey plan to make sure the camper doesn't get lost on the way.

Anyway just a thought.



Shane

Top idea. I'd be happy to help.

[luke07]

Hi everyone,

I totally understand what everyone is saying about business owners and unless you are one its hard to comment on how to run a business, but........

This company has been in trouble for a long time and would have known a while ago that they had no hope and thats where they should have stopped taking the little mans money.  Without going into details on here cause frankly I just cant be bothered wasting my time anymore. As a business they did not go into receivership the correct, legal or morale way. But anyway all this talk doesn't bring back the peoples money and hard earned cash. There are many people out of pocket just like us and many more that have lost a lot more money then what we thought. And not only that a good camping business is down the drain.

There is ONE good thing to come out of all of this and it makes us feel so privileged that this can happen for us but we have been made a fantastic offer from George and Theresa from Follow Me Campers. We have been discussing with them for many weeks about them providing a camper for us that is more then half price off there normal price. This is such an amazing offer. We hadn't taken them up on this offer until this weekend cause we wanted to make sure we couldn't get our money back some way so we could pay them the full price. Which we knew would be slim chance but thought we should try.

Everyone needs to be aware of the generosity that we have received from Follow Me Campers. They have been truly fantastic and we just don't even have the words to thank them. This has been an emotional time but having people like them offer the things they have offered is just unreal!!! We are so touched and will be making sure everyone is aware of this great family business and that there are good business people out there!

Thank you everyone for all your offers of help. I didn't catch the name of the person offering to help take it some KM's for us but thanks so much for that. We are trying to look into ways that we can get over that way to meet these wonderful people and collect the camper ourself or at least just to get over and meet them is what we would aim for.  Its such a long way to go but we believe we have to try something . 

Also thank you to Follow Me Campers customers too that have started to offer to help towards freight and flights, just the thought of your generosity counts.  We will certainly endeavour to be promoting all good people that have come out of this!

Thanks so much everyone. Luke and Melissa

[Barry G]

Sixtys Guy,

Running a business isn't as simple as running a household budget ... yet some politicians are forever telling us that the rules of household budgeting apply to the national economy / budget.  Both views can't be correct.

As to paying for shiny new toys... buiseness owners can pay for these out of pre-tax income, so reducing the tax they pay. The extent of such tax deductions and other perks - e.g. Sales tax exemption on  big 4 wheel drives and excise holiday on diesel fuel for many - including the mining companies FFS! - significantly shifts the tax burden to those working for wages / salaries.

Companies would say they deserve that, because they are the ones taking the risks -  but that is what profit is for. 

[Barrabart]

Hi everyone,

There is ONE good thing to come out of all of this and it makes us feel so privileged that this can happen for us but we have been made a fantastic offer from George and Theresa from Follow Me Campers. Everyone needs to be aware of the generosity that we have received from Follow Me Campers.Also thank you to Follow Me Campers customers too that have started to offer to help towards freight and flights, just the thought of your generosity counts.  We will certainly endeavour to be promoting all good people that have come out of this!

Thanks so much everyone. Luke and Melissa

G'day Luke,

This is the best thing i've read here so far............ Luke & Melissa, if you can stick your pride aside for a bit, i know from previous posts that there are a few on here that would send a few bucks to help cover your travel expenses........ i understand it's not an easy concept to get your head around, having strangers help you out of a situation, but there are people here that would be getting around grinning for a day or two knowing that the few $$ they chucked your way helped you get your family out on the road........  the way i see it, it's no different to you or i deciding to stop and help a bloke unbog his vehicle.......... have a think about it.

Also, Follow Me Campers ..... top stuff!!

Stay well.

Barrabart.

[class b]

Hi All
That's great news Luke & A big thumbs up to Follow Me Campers.
I feel your pain Luke & all the others  that have been left out of pocket.Well their was no good news at the creditors meeting not that I thought their would be. Hopefully some of our questions might  be answered. Like were some of the tools & payments may have gone.
On a good note I would like to say with the support of my family and work colleagues the brand will live on & we will be adding this great product to our range. I would also like to let people know that, those that have unfinished trailers or are still looking for one, that have been affected by this that myself & business partners Joe & Juanita would like to help were we can.

Rob Moore
Original Owner of Jimboomba Camper Trailers
Feel free to call me on 0408018418

[ranger-jules]

Bad news about what has happened, but knowing there is hope for those with unfinished trailers is the best news we have had in weeks. How long is it likely to be before any of this can happen. I am glad the brand may survive as it was an icon here in Jimboomba. We also badly affected by what happened and do not know where to turn to next. We have had some very kind offers, but still feel we are in the dark as to what will happen next and when.

Jules

[class b]

Hi Ranger -Jules
Sorry to here you are one of the affected people.Please give me a call and i will see what i can do

Thanks Rob

[ranger-jules]

I will call you and get some info. We have just been so devastated by what happened and could not believe that people we thought we knew could do such a dreadful thing to so many. Not sure why it happened and why they allowed it to get this bad. We should have bought one a few years ago while you were still in charge! We took a long time to decide, too long it seems. We were unlucky enough get it at the wrong time like all the others. Not sure how many have been affected by this, But from what I have gathered we are very much not alone.  Just not sure what the next steps will be and how to go about it. Will call and you may be able to help with info if nothing else.

regards
Jules

[luke07]

Hi rob,

Melissa and I were very saddened to hear at the meeting on Friday about how you were effected not only with the cash but with the fact that you had worked so hard with that businessmp at the start and for this to have happened must have really upset you.  We are so happy to hear that you are going to take on the business in someway. There was a reason we were going with that camper in the first place and its good they will still be produced as they were a good camper. We wish you all the best of luck with starting it up, we realise it will be a long road before its up and going again but it will be worth it for you's and the camping enthusiasts.  We are still hoping that justice will be served in some way and we all get some answers to the questions we all had. Best of luck to you and your business partners I'm sure you will make it a success.

Ranger -jules: not much news come out of the creditors meeting which is disappointing and was expected but if you have not contacted the administrators you really have 2 options. 1 option is to contact them and list yourself as a creditor (although there is no money to go out to any of us anyway) or 2 option don't say anything and hold onto the trailer you have and although it sucks that you didn't get what you paid for you will at least have a jimboomba camper and you will be able to get rob to finish it for a cost. Which I know is not the best news as you had already spent so much money but its a little bit of a start and a better position then others.

Good luck rob, we look forward to seeing many more jimboomba campers on the road in the future.

Luke and Melissa

[luke07]

Ranger Juls :

It did come up at the meeting about the trailers that were given to some customers. Apparently all this trailers were road worthy and could be registered so they were near complete, obviously your was not road worthy as you had no lights etc.  you could let the admin know this as it will put you as being owed more, but it may not be worth your while as there isn't any money in the business anyway. They aren't going to be taking these trailers off people as there is no proof etc and that's not what anyone wants, so I believe (but don't quote me) you will be fine to keep the trailer.

[ranger-jules]

This is the best news yet in all of this. I am sure you will get a fantastic camper and this is so good of them to do this. People like this amaze me with such generosity. Still it shows that there is still some humanity and kindness left in the world. The selfishness of those that took from us all , is disgusting to say the least. There is NO excuse for what they did to so many, and I am sure there are many more out there. We are still in the dark with all of this. We just feel deflated and let down and feel like there are no answers to why it happened. I know they ran out of money, but to let it go on and on was just so very very immoral. I do not know how long it will take us to pick up the pieces and try again to finish or fix or start again. Someone told us they may have just shredded the evidence of payments so no one will ever know how much went missing. Slush fund comes to mind, probably have other property to escape to as well, Still this is just speculation on our part and you cannot help feeling cynical in all of this mess. We will never find out why or where it all went to. All we can hope for is to move forward and hope that Jimboomba campers may get taken over by someone with morals and class!
we also have had kind offers of help and when we know more will contact them and organise what is to be done.
Jules

[ranger-jules]

Being able to keep the trailer is the best news we have had in weeks, not good for those who missed out completely like yourselves and others. there is nothing we can say to make it better for anyone in this. As for Rob taking over the business, that is just going to be so hard for him with what went down,but everyone in Jimboomba will want to support him and will get behind him in this. We all respected what he did with that business and built it up from scratch and to have someone come along and just ruin it, is so heartbreaking. We will support him as much as possible, it will take us some time to get things going with Christmas and all the things that need sorting out. We will also take a long time to get it fixed as we have too many family issues to deal with right now. At least now we may be able to ask for help with the finishing off, at least the bits we can do ourselves. We have had very kind offers on this site. People out there do care and it is great to see the true Australian spirit in helping ones mates still lives on.

[Bird]

The next steps.

1 - Stop saying much on here chances are the administrators will be googling for Jimboomba Campers. Although from personal experience and that of others, they might not do much at all. If people have things at home, they dont now. Make them go away
2 - Seek some counciling, it will help.
3 - There is no money to refund you, or to buy you a new trailer. Its all gone. No point waiting around for it.
4 - Seek legal advice, and speak with the administrators.
5 - Get what you have finished and use it - if you cant afford to, sell it and buy a tent
6 - Take any offer you get from knights in shining armour.
7 - Walk away.
8 - No more progress payments. Pay a deposit, and 1 more on pickup.
9 - Nobody on earth would deal with anyone called Jimboomba Campertrailers anymore, so I would think long and hard about taking it over.
Hope this helps.



Edit: those that went to the meeting, how many people were there as in customers??  I'm betting theres customers who have paid a deposit that were told 8-12 weeks that don't even know yet.

Does anyone know if the ADministrators have spoken to the "owners"?? or dont they have to in this situation???



17 October they released a new trailer

[ranger-jules]

good advice, we will not knock back help, we do need help with finishing off, just clues on how to make a bed base and fit gas struts etc. Plus so much more. At least we do have proof we paid, but not much consolation for the sleepless nights and worry, Luke and Melissa suffered a lot of distress and with a young growing family did not need this, no one did. I am glad they have help in fulfilling their dream. Maybe one day we will meet up with some of these great people on the road. We will look forward to that.

[luke07]

Lost - the administrators talk to the director of the company through out the investigation.

There wasn't many people at meeting or on phone hook but there is a few people that have listed themselves as creditors. You don't have to go to meeting. The administrators send letters to all that have paid deposits etc or owed money.

Julie- don't quote me on being able to keep the trailer that is just our assumption. Sorry

[Bird]

Interesting read on administrators.

PPB and Freehills alone helped themselves to almost $19 million and $13.8 million respectively. Nine law firms, a slew of consultants and the ubiquitous ''assurance'' firms were there for the kill, too.
 
The bill for travel and accommodation surpassed $2 million. Flagstaff Partners, a little-known merchant bank with links to ANZ, took home $6.8 million for providing advice. Who said talk was cheap?
 
If there were three sectors most often upbraided in recent times for their very high fees - the electricity networks, the liquidators and the lawyers - it is no coincidence that all three have the pleasure of setting their own fees.
 
When you see two of these working in tandem, the result is blistering blow-outs in fees. In the case of Burrup these turbo-charged paper-shufflers were ripping out $4 million a month, almost $1 million a week.


Read more: http://www.watoday.com.au/business/fee-hunters-grab-56m-in-14-months-20121202-2aoz4.html#ixzz2DwrVH37g

[chisel]

9 - Nobody on earth would deal with anyone called Jimboomba Campertrailers anymore, so I would think long and hard about taking it over.

^^^^ This

[Kydar]

9 - Nobody on earth would deal with anyone called Jimboomba Campertrailers anymore, so I would think long and hard about taking it over.

Opinion only. You can't speak for others. There still a great camper and dodgy management is gone. Bring back a great camper company, I say!

[Tassie devils]

9 - Nobody on earth would deal with anyone called Jimboomba Campertrailers anymore, so I would think long and hard about taking it over.

Opinion only. You can't speak for others. There still a great camper and dodgy management is gone. Bring back a great camper company, I say!

x2 

[kc_ksom]

Hi Luke

I was very close to buying one of there campers from the online side of things, I couldnt get hold of them, I rang & rang & rang, funny I must have dialed the wrong number when I searched on google and I spoke to Rob from Jimboomba Trailers, and he told me about what the go was with them, I thought how lucky was I, lol... Rob was also very helpfull with getting me quotes on a custom package, but I have decided to go another style camper.

I hope you get it all sorted out, cheers

Casey

[Bird]

Opinion only. You can't speak for others. There still a great camper and dodgy management is gone. Bring back a great camper company, I say!

Never said they werent a great bit of gear at all.. But I feel that the company name is tarnished now.  Im betting the Rob bloke that started it is just as pist as many other people.. There's a thread here with a bloke removing the stickers/mudflaps with Jimboomba Campers on them off his trailer - overkill I reckon... People arent happy
People research things online these days, they may not like what they find.

[ranger-jules]

I just wish I knew where they scarpered to! I wonder where they are hiding now?? This is so unfair to leave so many unsure of where to turn who to trust etc. We are so much in the dark over this and do not know where to turn next. One minute we think we may be able to carry on with what we have, but then get the jitters not knowing what to do next. We cannot get anything registered without a bill of sale or some sort of release document. Just up in the air. Hoping that we may be able to keep something. Do not want to start again, just too tired and fed up with the ups and downs. We only have bank documents with the proof of what we spent. Unfinished product and not knowing who to turn to for help. Maybe when we know more, and that could be sometime yet, we can move forward. Until then it is a waiting game. Have not received any info in the mail as yet. Hopefully Rob can start out again, as the JCT was  and is a good product regardless of what some say. It is light weight and easy to tow. Hope he gets it going again, I know everyone here in Jimboomba will get behind him after this. If anyone can help with info on registering the trailer if and when we know more, and how to go about getting a bed base made?? Still I guess we are jumping the gun, as Luke said, nothing has been said as to what may happen to those who got their trailers. We may end up with nothing yet, but not without a fight!!

[dazzler]

We cannot get anything registered without a bill of sale or some sort of release document.

I am a shonky bastwerd so if it were me I would hunt around for rusted out old box trailer with rego on it.  Pay me $200 or whatever, put the vin number and plate on my new one and be done with it.  Tell no bugger and move on.  If it sorts itself out, pull the plate and the vin, put the new one on and whammo you have a new trailer.

And yes, I dont know how I sleep at night 

[ranger-jules]

any advice is welcome at this stage. We have a trailer already, but it has a small number plate not like a car. Also the trailer has a vin already, so not sure what to do about that! Still we will see what the future holds. Thanks for the tip. Someone suggested rebirthing it as a home made trailer, still unsure about that as well. I guess that is what it would be anyway after you change stuff.

[ewwreckers]

Cut the vin off, first time you go to rego it's a home made trailer.  You'll have to get a new number stamped by RTA (they should tell you where to get it done) and Bob's your cousin's father.
I'll find out for sure when Vic gets home