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Re: Are Young People Just Greedy?
« Reply #100 on: July 15, 2012, 12:27:35 PM »
I love the inference in this comment ::)

Facts aren't inferences ;)

As i said, it was my opinion.

I respect some people have weighed up the pro's and con's and decided to do it. We weighed them up and decided against it. We put him in for a week, more for socialising etc,  but decided he would be better served getting this interacton elsewhere.
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« Reply #101 on: July 15, 2012, 12:30:16 PM »
How would you teach him those things if your wife didn't work there? Can I make it any clearer?

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« Reply #102 on: July 15, 2012, 12:31:24 PM »
My wife didn't work where?
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« Reply #103 on: July 15, 2012, 12:33:33 PM »
We are expecting more and more from our school teachers. Parents need to step up and stop paying people people to raise their kids. As a parent it's out job. Look at the news nightly and see what these wankers are getting up to. All stems from poor rules at home and no role models.


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« Reply #104 on: July 15, 2012, 12:34:37 PM »
NM helps to read it all.....
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« Reply #105 on: July 15, 2012, 12:37:23 PM »
I had a mate speak to me a few weeks ago saying his 7yr old son come home from school asking about sex. He then phoned the principal to ask when sex Ed will be discussed. The principal told him that's a job for his parents. Not the school. And can you believe he was p!ssed.

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« Reply #106 on: July 15, 2012, 12:39:42 PM »
A bit of sleight of hand going on I think...
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« Reply #107 on: July 15, 2012, 12:47:42 PM »
Oh!I'm so getting my 2c worth in on this before it get's locked.

It's the old peoples fault... just jokes but i need to keep the thread on track.

Some time in the last 20 years there was a tipping point.

Both parents working used to be at an ADVANTAGE.
Now only one parent working is a DISADVANTAGE.

Life became so expensive for so many reasons that now both parents need to work more often than in the past.
IMO, Read that again. IMO!    This is causing a HUGE decay in our society.

Who cares how much child care workers and teachers earn. It is their job to keep your kids safe and academically educated.  They don't have (and shouldn't have) the same care factor as a parent.

IS day care OK? IMO it's fine for a couple of short days a week. i.e. like community preschools run for 3-5 year olds.
What about Long day care. 7:00am to 6:00pm. It's not for me... or my kids.  The parent are never happy with the results anyway. They always have a gripe because the carers don't care the same way the parent would.

Don't even get me started on parent that put their kids in for 10hr days 5 days a week.    FWIW... i have seen a lot of these kids grow to be a PITA.

Just to re-iterate. IMO! You had em! It's your job to raise em.

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« Reply #108 on: July 15, 2012, 12:50:14 PM »
^^^^^ x2
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« Reply #109 on: July 15, 2012, 12:59:08 PM »
And just to add. Work is the easy way out.

We have 3 young ones... a day with them is far harder (although more rewarding) than a day at work.

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« Reply #110 on: July 15, 2012, 01:18:15 PM »
And just to add. Work is the easy way out.

We have 3 young ones... a day with them is far harder (although more rewarding) than a day at work.

A bit off topic.......

My niece is handicapped, brain damaged.
Sweetest girl ever.
Parents who care for a handicapped child, deserve a medal. That's a full-time job,worth more than any CEO of a company.
Yet they get very littleif none assistance.
My brother works so hardtop keep the family together and the mum works so hard withall the children and one being handicapped.
toughest day at Work, each a d every day.
Why do people ask "What the hell were you thinking?"
Obviously I was thinking I was going to get away with it and not have to explain it....

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« Reply #111 on: July 15, 2012, 01:23:23 PM »
A bit off topic.......

My niece is handicapped, brain damaged.
Sweetest girl ever.
Parents who care for a handicapped child, deserve a medal. That's a full-time job,worth more than any CEO of a company.
Yet they get very littleif none assistance.
My brother works so hardtop keep the family together and the mum works so hard withall the children and one being handicapped.
toughest day at Work, each a d every day.

amazing, I can't imagine having the mental strength that people like this have. I'm exhausted after a normal day with the littluns.
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« Reply #112 on: July 15, 2012, 01:29:27 PM »
Oh goody...   a "back in my day" thread!


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« Reply #113 on: July 15, 2012, 01:39:59 PM »
Wow, good to see the anti-daycare mob in full voice, I bet they're from the 'breast is best' school also  ::)

I still don't think campingwithkids has asnwered my question, oh well...
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« Reply #114 on: July 15, 2012, 01:43:56 PM »
Maybe you should read d4d I apologized for not reading it correctly.
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« Reply #115 on: July 15, 2012, 01:46:18 PM »
As a youngish person (32 and considered Gen Y by some sources), I think I can have a say. :-\.

Now I have my own kids (3.5 yrs and twins 2yrs) I have noticed a big difference in how I was raised and how kids are now.  These days we are in a more "disposable" way of life.  Noone sends a DVD player or plasma to be repaired anymore, you can by a new one for the cost of the repair.  Everything we purchase under $5000 seems to be like this.  I remember my parents sending our TV and VCR into town numerous times for repair, now we throw them in the bin and look for a new one online!!!

The whole attitude of young people has changed also.  Most of them now seem so very confident and "invincible. see this daily as I look after a few apprentices who cannot be shown anything.  The egos are MASSIVE!!!  They feel they are entitled to everything and need to work for nothing.  The high wages these kids are on doesn't help.  They have no respect for money at all because they earn so much of it!!  I have a 3rd year electrical apprentice who takes home over $1200 a week after his lease car (XR6) is taken from his pay!!!

Egos and image are a much bigger thing now than they have ever been, and I believe this is why they seem greedy.  They want everything to give them "the edge" of the next kid.  The young kids we have working at our mine make me laugh.  You see them at the start of shift doing there hair in the mirror before going underground!!!  No one to impress with you looks here sunshine!! Even when I was growing up in the 80's if blokes spent that long doing their hair you would be worried about which side of the fence they sit on :-* :-* :-*.  Now it is all hair gel, energy drinks, protein shakes and comparing bench press weights. 

Even though I am still considered young myself I try to teach my apprentices some life lessons and not just trade skills.  Some of them are making some pretty poor decisions outside of work like driving without a license and underage drinking with fake IDs, with no fear of consequence or penalty.

I don't think bad parenting is the answer for it all as there can't be that many bad parents out there!  I think society and media has dictated how kids behave now.  TV, internet and especially things like Facebook and YouTube show different behaviours our kids strive to replicate.  Now the kids say they are going to "hang out with friends", you see the groups of 6+ teens all furiously tapping Iphones not even aware of the world passing them by.  Social Media my ar$e!! More like unsocial media.

The fix ... I don't know...  I can only hope that by taking my kids out bush to appreciate simpler things in life and be more appreciative of what they have and who they are enjoying it with rather than getting everything they want just for the sake of having it.

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« Reply #116 on: July 15, 2012, 01:50:42 PM »
Wow, good to see the anti-daycare mob in full voice, I bet they're from the 'breast is best' school also  ::)


Yep, How dare someone have an opinion different to yours?  :police:
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« Reply #117 on: July 15, 2012, 01:52:10 PM »
Look around you. We have no accountability. Every thing we do is controlled. We fall over we can sue. We are told we cannot smack. It's bullsh!t
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« Reply #118 on: July 15, 2012, 01:54:11 PM »
The fix ... I don't know...  I can only hope that by taking my kids out bush to appreciate simpler things in life and be more appreciative of what they have and who they are enjoying it with rather than getting everything they want just for the sake of having it.

thats my approach, teach em how to surf, fish a bit of bush craft etc. goes a long way to drag them way from the idot box.
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« Reply #119 on: July 15, 2012, 01:55:12 PM »
Yep, How dare someone have an opinion different to yours?  :police:

Mate I don't care what opinion you have, just don't tell me your opinion is the only one.
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« Reply #120 on: July 15, 2012, 01:56:23 PM »
Mate I don't care what opinion you have, just don't tell me your opinion is the only one.

No one has. Defensive much
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« Reply #121 on: July 15, 2012, 02:02:40 PM »
The fix ... I don't know...  I can only hope that by taking my kids out bush to appreciate simpler things in life and be more appreciative of what they have and who they are enjoying it with rather than getting everything they want just for the sake of having it.

Agreed, I took my boy for a walk this morning in the bush up the road. We didn't walk that far as he was intent on trying to push all the huge gum trees over. We watched the cockatoos and he asked 'what was that' with every sound. He even bought a piece of bark home for mum. You can't put a price on that.
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« Reply #122 on: July 15, 2012, 02:03:48 PM »
No one has. Defensive much

Short memory

I can't believe people put their kids in childcare for the majority of this time in the hands of someone else to teach them?
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« Reply #123 on: July 15, 2012, 02:11:10 PM »
Yep that's an opinion. And I agree with it too. If you feel the need to use care that's your problem. Again you appear to have an issue with someone else having an opinion that differs to yours.

I'm not sure what your trying to get at here. It is after all an open forum.


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« Reply #124 on: July 15, 2012, 02:28:15 PM »
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